Re: Antal Block and Dyneema loops
Patrick McAneny
Wolfgang,We just made that passage , I don't think there is enough water to get into the Cape May harbor and the Bay inlet is restricted by a fixed bridge. In settled weather you can anchor just about anywhere along the coast in less than 20 ft. of water. BTW if heading north you can round the Cape very close to shore ,just need to pick your way around a couple of shoals and that saves a few miles going all the way out and around the shoal area. I don't think there is many or any inlets on the Jersey coast to go into given our draft.
Good Luck ,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
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From: Wolfgang Weber via Groups.Io <webercardio@...> To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Sent: Wed, Aug 7, 2019 10:35 am Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Antal Block and Dyneema loops Good morning ,
I received the dyneema loops by Amel and ask now the group for any advice or recommendations for the way to Change the loops at the Antal Block. First try after getting out the screw was without effect to get out the roll.Will I loose the balls of the bearings Thank you very much Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162 on Delaware River to Cape May ( any recommendations for Marina or anchorage?)
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Re: Antal Block and Dyneema loops
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Wolfgang;
We replaced the loops by removing the screw you mentioned and took the roller out. You will not lose any ball bearings. It did take some work to get the roller out due to salt and dust. Stay at it and it will come out.
Respectfully;
Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099
On Aug 7, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Wolfgang Weber via Groups.Io <webercardio@...> wrote:
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Antal Block and Dyneema loops
Good morning ,
I received the dyneema loops by Amel and ask now the group for any advice or recommendations for the way to Change the loops at the Antal Block. First try after getting out the screw was without effect to get out the roll.Will I loose the balls of the bearings Thank you very much Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162 on Delaware River to Cape May ( any recommendations for Marina or anchorage?)
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Re: Did you catch 4 errors on the Delos series 205?
Mark & Debbie Mueller
Could you specify the four errors you identified on the Delos video for anyone that is still just marginally Amel challenged? Thanks.
-- Mark Mueller Brass Ring A54
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Re: Wintering in potentially freezing conditions, watermaker?
Mark McGovern
Dean,
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Re: Wintering in potentially freezing conditions, watermaker?
Thomas Peacock
Mark from Dessalator in the US recommends the pink anti-freeze (propylene glycol) alone as an alternative to metabisulfite. So, in cold weather you have both bases covered.
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If you did use metabisulfite, you could add glycerol, but I’m not sure about the ratio. Tom Peacock SM 240 Aletes Chesapeake Bay US
On Aug 7, 2019, at 5:37 AM, SY STELLA <stella@...> wrote:
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Re: Storm tactics
Hi Brian,
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I bought and carried a sea anchor parachute (to be launched from the cockpit but streams just off dead ahead) full kit unused thankfully. After I had bought it I became certain that I had got it wrong and I should have bought a Jordan Drogue which lots of Americans have. I think a Jordan drogue (lots of small parachutes) is easier to launch and to recover at the end. I did a lot of research. Just my small input. Best wishes in your decision.
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Re: Storm tactics
Brian Riggs
Hello all,
What are your thoughts on using a para-anchor or storm rated sea anchor type setup? Brian Riggs Future Amel Owner
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Re: Amel is going lithium
Hi Scott,
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I am full of admiration for your bold step into Lithium. I was tempted two and a bit years ago when I bought Amelia but I decided I wanted to go with Firefly AGM carbon foam but then I simply could not get them fast enough for my cruising itinerary so I went Lifeline AGM and 530w solar as well as two Rutland 1200 wind generators. I am happy with my set up but you have taken that next step...well done. I am curious, the one thing that I can not get without generator or main engine is HOT WATER.... Do you use the inverter to power the immersion hot water??? Does that add up with your general battery management regime? I really get the washing machine and general day to day stuff and an amazed you can run one aircon unit and still not be running the generator for long. Nick Amelia (AML 54-019) Preveza, Greece
On 7 Aug 2019, at 10:05, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:
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Wintering in potentially freezing conditions, watermaker?
Hi folks,
We will be wintering ashore this year at Ardrossan, Scotland where there is a possibility of subzero temperatures and I intend to take measures to combat possible damage due to freezing. I’ve never wintered in such conditions, so it’s a new process for me. I’m comfortable with the obvious stuff like empty water tanks, drain lines, anti-freeze in engine/gen raw water coolant lines etc. One area that is puzzling me a little is the watermaker system. I’m thinking about some kind of non-toxic antifreeze solution? What do others with such potentially sub-zero wintering conditions do with their watermakers? Many thanks Dean SY Stella A54-154 Islay
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Re: Amel is going lithium
Mohammad Shirloo
Thanks Scott;
We do use LIPO, LI-ION and LiFEpo4 in our hobby and am familiar with the safety vs. energy storage, weight, # of cycles differences. I agree that that LiFepo4 would be the safest choice out of the group and most likely provide the highest number of cycles. It is probably the heaviest of the group, which would not be an issue on a displacement cruising yacht.
I look forward to your findings and opinion. We just replaced our AGM batteries last year and will most likely try to go Lithium for our next bank switch over which hopefully will not be for another 3 years plus. I would assume that would be plenty of time for the industry to work out any bugs in the system and technology, as applies to cruising yachts.
Respectfully;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo Amel 54 #099
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On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 1:59 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel is going lithium
Mohammad,
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Re: Amel is going lithium
Scott SV Tengah
Mohammad,
Both Victron, which I have and Mastervolt use lifepo4 chemistry, a much safer (but less energy dense) technology than the lithium ion that is more common. I don't know much about RC planes, but I assume for weight, they'd go with the lithium ion, which is far more prone to catching fire and when they do have thermal runaway, burn much hotter and are likely to ignite adjacent cells. I'll write about my thoughts on safety in a later post. I'm sure you know about the relative safety of lifepo4, but here's a FAA fire hazard analysis done on the various battery types as they are often used in real airplanes. I read this last year before I was contemplating adding lithium to my boat. Lifepo4 is shown to be safer than the other lithium chemistries. https://www.fire.tc.faa.gov/pdf/TC-16-17.pdf While safer, it's not without risk. Then again, neither is lead acid as I personally know the owner of an Amel who experienced an unexplained lead acid battery bank explosion. Luckily no one was sleeping on the passage berth at the time. -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: Genoa car springs
Thanks Ken
My initial issue is to get the cotter pin out, the rod won't turn ...I'm going to have to destroy the pin and then try again Cheers Alan ELYSE SM437
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Re: Amel is going lithium
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Scott;
Very impressive numbers. I am familiar the Lithium battery technology and all the benefits you mention, since we have been using it in giant scale radio control airplane models (Up to 60% scale) for years.
The one major issue with lithium that has prevented us from making the change to Lithium on Kokomo, has been safety. There have been many cases of these batteries burning down models as well as houses, when the fire happened to occur in the house.
In most cases the issue has been misuse or equipment failure, that has led to overcharge/discharge but some that seem to have been without any external input and not during usage As far as I have observed, , once the fire starts, it cannot be extinguished with standard firefighting equipment. It basically seems to need to burn itself out.
Do you know which lithium technology Mastervolt uses? (Lithium Polymer, ION, LIFE, or ?) Did you ever happen to address the safety and evaluate the hazards with this technology? What was your conclusion and how do you view the hazards associated with these batteries?
I would also be interested in seeing a picture of your solar setup, if you have one. Thanks for posting all the useful information and data.
Respectfully;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo Amel 54 #099
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On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 5:25 PM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel is going lithium
Very interesting re serial vs parallel. I do find a big drop in production with shading, much better days if the wind keeps the solar pointed towards the sun. I’ll have to run a bit more wire to the mppt. I’ll try that in NZ and see what we get. Thanks for the suggestion!!
Appreciated
Porter A54-152
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Re: Dessslator HP hoses
Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica
Eric,
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Thank u very much for your help. This time it was faster for us to order from Dessalator France. 1 day delivery time only. We have been a bit in a hurry to get it working because we got visitors. I think it might be better to get pure SS fittings. The originals are mix brass and SS and i ran in some electrolysis problems. Not sure if its the material mix or something else? Thanks Oliver Vela Nautica A54#39 Portugal Sent from my Huawei Mobile
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Re: Genoa car springs
Ken Powers SV Aquarius
I did this in one of my videos called "Booms and Running Rigging!
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Changes and what they cost" Not sure if you have the same car or not, but this is how I did mine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_XB5qfptqQ This is pretty much a step by step.... Some say that you should not cut the track, but I disagree. If done correctly, it will make it easy the next time you have to remove the car. Ken Powers Aquarius SM2K#262 Currently in Indonesia
On 8/5/19, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@hotmail.com> wrote:
I need to replace the springs in one of my Antal genoa cars.
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Re: Shore power contactor burnt out
eric freedman
Hi, Thanks for the info. I don’t know what is available in Italy , however Amazon has a few. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eamonn Washington
Hi
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Re: Amel is going lithium
Porter McRoberts
Very interesting re serial vs parallel. I do find a big drop in production with shading, much better days if the wind keeps the solar pointed towards the sun. I’ll have to run a bit more wire to the mppt. I’ll try that in NZ and see what we get. Thanks for the suggestion!!
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Appreciated
On Aug 6, 2019, at 2:18 PM, Scott SV Tengah <sv.tengah@...> wrote:
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Re: Amel is going lithium
Scott SV Tengah
Porter,
I guess you mean far from the panels to the mppt? Maybe you can experiment with parallel to see if you get higher output. I believe parallel is better than serial when you have shading on some panels and not others. I have the 3 pairs of wires from the panels to a switch in the aft lazarette. Then one pair from the lazarette to the mppt which is behind the main switches in the passage berth. Of course the batteries are near there. Seems to be no problem with the distance as I'm getting up to 6500wh per day as you can see on the data I posted earlier. -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: Amel is going lithium
Stephen Davis
Sorry....Wrong recipient!
On Aug 6, 2019, at 11:02 AM, Stephen Davis via Groups.Io <flyboyscd@...> wrote:
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