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Re: BT seals

Teun BAAS
 

Ken,

According to BR this also fits the A54. So pls get me 2 or 3 sets as well.

Teun

T

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-------- Original message --------
From: "EricOpdeweegh via groups.io" <sv.abayomi@...>
Date: 6/4/21 15:53 (GMT-06:00)
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] BT seals

Hi Ken,

Hope your doing fine, out of jail:)  and reached your boat already in Krabi

Can you put me in for 2 sets BT seals too?

Happy maintenance 
Eric Opdeweegh, Rotterdam The Netherlands
sv Abayomi SM 158 (Italy)


Re: BT seals

Mark McGovern
 

Ken,

I will take two (2) sets.  They will be shipped to Maryland in the US of A.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: BT seals

 

I am not sure if Amel 54 owners realize this, but this silicone seal will replace the 60 x 80 x 12 lip seal on the 54 Bow Thruster and, although I have not measured it, I am 99% sure the A-55 as well.

I am totally on board with this silicone seal that Jose designed.

Bill 
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 4:51 PM Jose Venegas via groups.io <josegvenegas=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello Ken and future users of the silicone BT seals,

I am truly impressed of the interest of using my design of the silicone seals.  I feel I could have started a company :)

Perhaps it will help if I explain why I ended up using two different seals (Wiper and lip seal)  in series instead of just one.
Not knowing whether either seal was going to work well, I decided to request one of each to test how well the fit on the space.  
When I received them I realized that I could place the lip seal first, facing down (NOT UP as in your drawings) and then place the wiper above it as shown in the pix.  Note that both seals should have the lip facing down to prevent water intake. This would double the sealing mechanism which I think is the reason for the longevity of the design. Also note that you can place them in the opposite order (but same direction !!) and it may still work well as I have heard from others. 

 So far I have had it in place for more than 4 years without changing them and have no water intake, even in two occasions were I forgot to bring the BT up for a few minutes while on the way, or compress the neoprene donuts with  the pin.  The softness of the silicone seals allow some motion without opening a slit thus preventing water ingress. With the old seals the misalignment of the seals and the trunk would have deformed the seals and damaged the for ever.

How to do it:

 Use silicone sealant to seal the bottom of the lip seal against the fiberglass bottom and side surfaces. 

Then I added sealant to the top flat surface of the lip seal also and aded the wiper with the lip FACING DOWN also.  

This lets half of the wiper protruding above the fibre glass opening but it still has good attachment against the top surface of the wiper and the side of the fibre-glass opening.

Place some weight over the wiper to push it agains the lip seal and leave the silicone sealant dry overnight.

Add the neoprene seal but only glue it after you have passed the trunk to guide its proper location.

Before you bring up the trunk, because the diameter of the lips is slightly less than the trunk’s diameter, It is NECESARY to use the wood insert provided by AMEL to service the BT on the water, also to help sliding the trunk up once the seals are in place. A little silicone grease will also help.  If you don’t use the wood wood, you will find it very difficult to insert the trunk up and you may ruin the wiper.

Here are two pix that may help

Jose 
Ipaname SM2K 278



Re: BT seals

Jose Venegas
 

Hello Ken and future users of the silicone BT seals,

I am truly impressed of the interest of using my design of the silicone seals.  I feel I could have started a company :)

Perhaps it will help if I explain why I ended up using two different seals (Wiper and lip seal)  in series instead of just one.
Not knowing whether either seal was going to work well, I decided to request one of each to test how well the fit on the space.  
When I received them I realized that I could place the lip seal first, facing down (NOT UP as in your drawings) and then place the wiper above it as shown in the pix.  Note that both seals should have the lip facing down to prevent water intake. This would double the sealing mechanism which I think is the reason for the longevity of the design. Also note that you can place them in the opposite order (but same direction !!) and it may still work well as I have heard from others. 

 So far I have had it in place for more than 4 years without changing them and have no water intake, even in two occasions were I forgot to bring the BT up for a few minutes while on the way, or compress the neoprene donuts with  the pin.  The softness of the silicone seals allow some motion without opening a slit thus preventing water ingress. With the old seals the misalignment of the seals and the trunk would have deformed the seals and damaged the for ever.

How to do it:

 Use silicone sealant to seal the bottom of the lip seal against the fiberglass bottom and side surfaces. 

Then I added sealant to the top flat surface of the lip seal also and aded the wiper with the lip FACING DOWN also.  

This lets half of the wiper protruding above the fibre glass opening but it still has good attachment against the top surface of the wiper and the side of the fibre-glass opening.

Place some weight over the wiper to push it agains the lip seal and leave the silicone sealant dry overnight.

Add the neoprene seal but only glue it after you have passed the trunk to guide its proper location.

Before you bring up the trunk, because the diameter of the lips is slightly less than the trunk’s diameter, It is NECESARY to use the wood insert provided by AMEL to service the BT on the water, also to help sliding the trunk up once the seals are in place. A little silicone grease will also help.  If you don’t use the wood wood, you will find it very difficult to insert the trunk up and you may ruin the wiper.

Here are two pix that may help

Jose 
Ipaname SM2K 278



Re: Solar installation and Link10 Battery Monitor

Michael Markstaller
 

Hi,

from your explanations, sorry, I would suspect your missing some major things!
IF the MPPT is going directly onto the battery its bypassing the battery-monitor, so you won't see it at all.
How much PV panels do you have? Really? 26-28V says nothing, it's the job of your MPPT-charger to adjust that to your batteries like 12V (14,4V charging, 13,5V "Standby") or 24V (below 28.8V charging they will never get full above 70-80%)

I found nothing on Google, what a "Link 10" could be

--
Daniela & Michael
Blue Horizon - EUROS #215


Re: Solar installation and Link10 Battery Monitor

 

Ian,

Mark's advice is correct. I am going to go a bit further.

I had a marine electrician wire my MPPT and panels to the battery bank. He connected the negative terminal to a convenient bolt on the shunt in the photo below. This is the wrong place because it distorted the readings showing too much energy going into the battery bank. See the next photo below.
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I suggest that you connect the cables to the battery switches and connect them on the Battery side of the positive switch and the negative switch. I also suggest that you consider using a positive and negative bus bar to take some of the wires off of this terminal. This photo is of a Typical Positive Switch on an Amel. The Negative switch will look about the same. I placed a green circle on the switch lug that needs to receive battery charging from the MPPT.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 2:32 PM Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:
Ian,

It's sounds like the DC negative cable from your solar charge controller is wired incorrectly and is bypassing the shunt.  Therefore, the shunt and the battery monitor are not "seeing" the amps going into the batteries from the solar panels.  Try moving the negative cable coming from the solar charge controller to the "inlet" side of the shunt so that the current from the charge controller is going through the shunt.  The shunt is located outside the battery compartment on the other side of the main DC negative stud that is inside the battery compartment.  Remove the mattress above the battery compartment and you will see a small hole where you can access  the shunt.

Mark


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021, 2:36 PM ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:
Hello all, 

We have just escaped London for Greece and reunion with Pen Azen who has been fitted with two solar panels in our absence . 
The solar monitor shows good volts and amps going in to the batteries but the Link 10 , whilst showing good volts ( 26-28 ) also shows that with only the fridge on ( we are ashore ) we are losing amps, now down to about 70%
What is curious is that when we use the 220v chargers with shore power the readings don’t change. 

Can it be that in some way the addition of the solar interferes with the function of the Link10?

The panels are small , giving maybe 7.5 Amps . The wiring from the MPPT goes direct into the battery compartment to connect with the two main stubs

Any ideas ? 

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen , SM 302, Kilada, Greece


--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: BT seals

EricOpdeweegh
 

Hi Ken,

Hope your doing fine, out of jail:)  and reached your boat already in Krabi

Can you put me in for 2 sets BT seals too?

Happy maintenance 
Eric Opdeweegh, Rotterdam The Netherlands
sv Abayomi SM 158 (Italy)


Stove 2 burner gas hose specifications #stove

EricOpdeweegh
 

Hi Amalians,

Preparing to go to Abayomi on monday from Holland and getting some late spareparts.
Appreciate if anyone would know the length of the gas-hose on the standard 2 burner stove on a 1995 Super Maramu. 
We would like to change the hose soonest after 25 years due to possible insurance exclusions in case of fire.

Anyone who could give us the specifications of the gas hose and the couplings on this I assume ENO 2 burner stove from 1995?

Thanks
Eric 
sv Abayomi SM 158


Re: Solar installation and Link10 Battery Monitor

Mark McGovern
 

Ian,

It's sounds like the DC negative cable from your solar charge controller is wired incorrectly and is bypassing the shunt.  Therefore, the shunt and the battery monitor are not "seeing" the amps going into the batteries from the solar panels.  Try moving the negative cable coming from the solar charge controller to the "inlet" side of the shunt so that the current from the charge controller is going through the shunt.  The shunt is located outside the battery compartment on the other side of the main DC negative stud that is inside the battery compartment.  Remove the mattress above the battery compartment and you will see a small hole where you can access  the shunt.

Mark


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021, 2:36 PM ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:
Hello all, 

We have just escaped London for Greece and reunion with Pen Azen who has been fitted with two solar panels in our absence . 
The solar monitor shows good volts and amps going in to the batteries but the Link 10 , whilst showing good volts ( 26-28 ) also shows that with only the fridge on ( we are ashore ) we are losing amps, now down to about 70%
What is curious is that when we use the 220v chargers with shore power the readings don’t change. 

Can it be that in some way the addition of the solar interferes with the function of the Link10?

The panels are small , giving maybe 7.5 Amps . The wiring from the MPPT goes direct into the battery compartment to connect with the two main stubs

Any ideas ? 

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen , SM 302, Kilada, Greece


--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Solar installation and Link10 Battery Monitor

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hello all, 

We have just escaped London for Greece and reunion with Pen Azen who has been fitted with two solar panels in our absence . 
The solar monitor shows good volts and amps going in to the batteries but the Link 10 , whilst showing good volts ( 26-28 ) also shows that with only the fridge on ( we are ashore ) we are losing amps, now down to about 70%
What is curious is that when we use the 220v chargers with shore power the readings don’t change. 

Can it be that in some way the addition of the solar interferes with the function of the Link10?

The panels are small , giving maybe 7.5 Amps . The wiring from the MPPT goes direct into the battery compartment to connect with the two main stubs

Any ideas ? 

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen , SM 302, Kilada, Greece


Re: BT seals

Ian Bone
 

I'll take 2 sets please. 
Suitable for a Mango? 
Delivery in the US.
Ian Bone
Opalescence
Hull #63


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021, 8:06 AM rossirossix4 <rossidesigngroup@...> wrote:
I'll take 2 sets.  Bob KAIMI, in USA


Re: BT seals

rossirossix4
 

I'll take 2 sets.  Bob KAIMI, in USA


Re: For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

Marty Crighton
 

Please add me to the list for a set.
Respectfully,
Marty

Martyn Crighton
SV NADA, SM 327


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 16:07 Matt & Michelle Day, SM#208 SV Talia <charlesmatthewday@...> wrote:
Ken,

Count Michelle and I in on the run rails (Talia SM208).

Matt Day

Sent from mobile 

On Jun 3, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> wrote:

Need a few more interested Amels!

1.  Aquarius SM2K#262, Ken Powers,  USA Nevada, but need to know weight because I will take them on a flight to Thailand.
2.  Solitude SM2K#461,  Mike & PETA,  EU
3. Nunky Super Maramu #110, Mark Barter, UK
4.
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7.
8.
9.
10.


--
Marty and Angela Crighton
Future Amel Owners
Pyeongtaek, South Korea


Re: BT seals

Marty Crighton
 

I will take 3 sets. Shipped to Cleveland OH, USA

Martyn Crighton  

SV NADA, SM 327
St. Lucia


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021, 08:33 Pietro Zaccari via groups.io <tsarzac=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
1.  Ken Powers Aquarius US and or EU
2.  Ken Powers Aquarius US and or EU
3.  Ken Powers Aquarius US and or EU
4.  Slavko Despotovic 
5.  Slavko Despotovic
6.  Eloi Bamberg
7.  Eloi Bamberg
8.  Dan Wilcox, Feierabend, Seattle WA
9.  Dan Wilcox, Feierabend, Seattle WA
10.  Dan Wilcox, Feierabend, Seattle WA
11. Pietro Zaccari, Bolero, Italy
12. Pietro Zaccari, Bolero, Italy
13. Pietro Zaccari, Bolero, Italy


Pietro
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--
Marty and Angela Crighton
Future Amel Owners
Pyeongtaek, South Korea


Re: BT seals

Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
 

Thanks for the Feedback Pat,  

If you are correct, then my drawings are incorrect.  This is why I want to get the instructions completed, seems many people do not know how to install these seals.

Hopefully more people, some that have installed these seals, can give us some more insight.  

Ken
Aquarius
SM2K#262


Re: BT seals

Paul Guenette
 

Hi Ken,

Please put me down for two sets

Thanks

Paul Guenette

Aramis SM 444
Comox, BC, Canada


Re: BT seals

Stefano Biffi
 

Ken please 3 set for me. Boat in Italy thanks

Stefano
N’EVEREST Super Maramu 185
Italy

Il giorno 4 giu 2021, alle ore 05:58, Paul Stascavage via groups.io <pstas2003=yahoo.com@groups.io> ha scritto:

Ken,

Please put me down for 2 sets to be shipped to NY

All the Best,

Paul Stascavage
S/V Rita Kathryn SM #466

RitaKathryn.com

Currently Exploring City Island NY






Re: BT seals

Paul Stascavage
 

Ken,

Please put me down for 2 sets to be shipped to NY

All the Best,

Paul Stascavage
S/V Rita Kathryn SM #466

RitaKathryn.com

Currently Exploring City Island NY


Re: BT seals

Patrick McAneny
 

I bought the seals months ago and being confused as to how they were to be installed ,I have not installed them. It would be helpful to see a photo of these seals installed in position. I have a set and a couple of weeks ago ,uncertain how to install them ,I installed my bow thruster in the original manner. Could these assumptions be confirmed.
1. Would I be correct to assume that the Amel supplied oil seal is not installed and that the larger female seal is installed in its place ?
2. The smaller seal just slides onto the shaft and moves up and down with the shaft and fits into the main seal when the thruster is lowered?
3. The foam seal is eliminated or its interior diameter is enlarged enough to allow the smaller seal to pass through and seal against the larger seal ?
4. If my assumptions are correct ,than these seals would only come in contact with each other ,when the thruster is in the down position , which is not when I have had water leak into the boat ,it has been underway in heavy seas.
5. Will these seals keep water out better than the oil seal we have used to this point. I only had leaking once after I failed to replace the two foam seals on the exterior ,thinking that they looked good ,but must have been compressed and lost their ability to seal properly. 
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Jun 4, 2021 5:58 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] BT seals

To EVERYONE that has installed the new gaskets, and everyone that would like to buy the new gaskets. 

I don't think it wise to ship these gaskets without a good set of instructions!  I am working on a set of instructions, but NEED SOME HELP.  I have not installed these gaskets, and not sure I am getting the process down properly.  Please review my drawings, and let me know 1) If there is anything wrong, and 2) how to make them more understandable.  Please correct anything you see wrong, and I will change it, and everyone will get a good set of instructions.  Best adhesives and other products used would be nice to know as well.

We all want our Amels to be perfect!  I know page 4 and 5 might be overkill, but it's probably how I am going to do it.  Let me know your thoughts.

Ken Powers
Aquarius
SM2K#262


Re: BT seals

Pietro Zaccari
 

1.  Ken Powers Aquarius US and or EU
2.  Ken Powers Aquarius US and or EU
3.  Ken Powers Aquarius US and or EU
4.  Slavko Despotovic 
5.  Slavko Despotovic
6.  Eloi Bamberg
7.  Eloi Bamberg
8.  Dan Wilcox, Feierabend, Seattle WA
9.  Dan Wilcox, Feierabend, Seattle WA
10.  Dan Wilcox, Feierabend, Seattle WA
11. Pietro Zaccari, Bolero, Italy
12. Pietro Zaccari, Bolero, Italy
13. Pietro Zaccari, Bolero, Italy


Pietro
Bolero SM 364, Bocca di Magra

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