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Re: New sails
Thank's Ian
When you say not happy with the cut, do you only mean it is to short? Or the shape is also bad and it does not perform well? Paul SY Kerpa SM#259
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Re: Toilet flooding when sailing
The strange thing is that the water s clear. so I'm suspicious could it come through the salt water flushing pump does not make sens to me but...
Paul
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Re: Toilet flooding when sailing
Paul,
While you are underway and the holding tank valve is open, sea water can push upward. This will cause added pressure in the tank and the air pressure in the tank will put backward pressure on your joker valve. You can either close the holding tank valve or replace the joker valve to solve your problem.
I am assuming the water in the toilet is smelly. The only other path for water is from the flush. It might be possible to have the contents of the flush hose empty into the toilet. This would be a one-time event until the toilet is flushed again. This can be solved by using the empty bowl option on the rocker switch and not putting more water into the hose.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Panama www.creampuff.us
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main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Paul Osterberg
Thank you Mark, i do not think that's the problem as after
flushing, the water in the hose do not flow back to the bowl, and even if that
would be the malfunction part it should not come in more water that is in the
hose itself.
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Re: New sails
We have both main and mizzen sails made by Incidences, new in 2013. I do not like the cut on the mainsail. It is short of the masthead by over 30 cm (even with the foot raised). Mizzen is fine. And a small but annoying thing is the "Incidences" patch on both sails. They are not colour fast. The blue ink has leeched down onto the sail fabric. Ian & Margaret S/V Loca Lola II SM153 Exumas, Bahamas
On May 21, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
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Re: Cables in SM Mast
I changed our wind transducer last spring, it was very easy to pull the cable, our mast was down, but I guess that would not cause any problem to pull the cable with the mast in place. What we notice when in Sassafras River Chesapeake bay, was that it was a missive amounts of spiders invading the boat and built nests. One of the nest was somewhere in the mast, I thought the halyard was jammed but a firm pull and it came lose and something locking as a spider nest fell down on deck. birds and other animals also build nests and that can be a reason for the problem to pull out the cable
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259
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New sails
We are in the market for new sails, and got a reasonable offer from Incidence sails in France made in Hydranet. They do not use foam luff which surprise me they claim and they should now. So to my question. Is there any of you who recently bought sails from Incidence? what is your experience with the sails? especially the head sails does it furl/reef well?
I guess they have a lot of experience in building/making sails for Amel SM Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259
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Re: Toilet flooding when sailing
Thank you Mark, i do not think that's the problem as after flushing, the water in the hose do not flow back to the bowl, and even if that would be the malfunction part it should not come in more water that is in the hose itself.
Paul
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Cables in SM Mast
Derick Gates
Raymaine in the Azores is attempting to exchange the wind direction and speed cable on Brava. They are having difficulty pulling the old cable up. Are the cables all cabletied together? Do we need o disconnect and pull all of the cables at the same time?
They also are encountering a barrier about 2 meters down from the top of the mast when trying to put a new wire in place without removing the old wire. Did Amel run the cables through a pipe at certain points? Any knowledge would be appreciated. Derick Gates Amel Super Maramu #400 Brava +1(617)512-8834 cell
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Re: Toilet flooding when sailing
Paul,
You probably need to replace the joker valve on the head. It is located past the pump but before the hose leading to the holding tank. You should find 3 screws there to access the valve. This is the valve that stops water flowing backward into the head.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Panama www.creampuff.us
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
[mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Osterberg
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 10:05 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Toilet flooding when sailing
We have noticed a strange ingress of water in our forward
head bowl, when sailing with the wind in from SB, if there is any water left in
the bowl, the bowl slowly fills with water, usually smal amount when the boats
goes down in a wave or other vivid motion. If the bowl is totally empty no
water coming in! I have no explanation to the behavior. We have similar
on the aft toilet but to much less extent. We always have the valve for
emptying the holding tank open when at sea. but can't imagine how water can get
in that way
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Toilet flooding when sailing
We have noticed a strange ingress of water in our forward head bowl, when sailing with the wind in from SB, if there is any water left in the bowl, the bowl slowly fills with water, usually smal amount when the boats goes down in a wave or other vivid motion. If the bowl is totally empty no water coming in! I have no explanation to the behavior. We have similar on the aft toilet but to much less extent. We always have the valve for emptying the holding tank open when at sea. but can't imagine how water can get in that way
Paul on SY Kerpa SM #259
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Re: Tidbits
Ian Park
I knew the steerboard origin but not all of the rest. Thanks Mark, I am going to copy and save that.
Ocean Hobo is currently anchored off Siel Island in Scotland - in the sun. We’re currently with the OCC Celtic Cruise with Bill And Laurie on Toodle Ooh. Best wishes Ian and Linda
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Re: Now locker floor replacement
Gerald Bassin
Nice job !
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On our SM #113 Jetlag, we managed to load up 100 gallons of water on the passage from Curaçao to Grenada due to a blocked drain in the chain locker.... We had a hatch already fitted in the port locker so it was not to hard to get down and cut an acces to the drain hole. Works fine now. We also installed a divider in the chain locker. Seems that the earlier units did not have it installed Safe sailing Gerald Bassin SV Jetlag
On 21 May 2019, at 02:13, Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...> wrote:
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Re: Now locker floor replacement
eric freedman
Very nice work, Congratulations. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 8:14 PM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Now locker floor replacement
Aletes locker drain was also blocked. Pushing a fish (wire puller) up the drain pipe from the T in the foreword head bilge broke it loose. Water gushed out along with the mud and sand. Hose pressure through the holes in the anchor locker floor cleaned out the rest.
Key to this was the access now afforded through the port bow locker floor now completed.
Mike Ondra Aletes SM240
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Re: Now locker floor replacement
Mike Ondra
Aletes locker drain was also blocked. Pushing a fish (wire puller) up the drain pipe from the T in the foreword head bilge broke it loose. Water gushed out along with the mud and sand. Hose pressure through the holes in the anchor locker floor cleaned out the rest.
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Key to this was the access now afforded through the port bow locker floor now completed. Mike Ondra Aletes SM240
On May 19, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:
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Re: Tidbits
islandpearl2_sm2k332
Nice one Mark!! Sorry we missed meeting you guys by not very far. We came through Panama two weeks ago and are now in Ecuador. Best regards Colin & Lauren on SV Island Pearl II, sm#332
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 3:02 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:
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Colin Streeter 0411 016 445
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Tidbits
(not sure where I found this so as to give credit where due)
Ever wonder where the terms port (left) and starboard (right) came from?
Ships used to have their rudders affixed to the right side, and this was the side they steered from. 'Starboard' is a corruption of 'steorbord' or 'steer-board.' In fact, the word 'steer' comes from the Old Norse 'stýri' meaning rudder.
When pulling into port, ships approached with the land on their left side to avoid damaging the rudder. This is why that side is called 'port side.' It was originally called 'larboard,' derived from 'load-board' (the side you load cargo on), but they decided that the term sounded too similar to 'starboard' and changed it.
When two ships crossed paths, the one on the right side had the right-of-way (hence the name). Since ships often passed in the dark of night, they needed a way to determine the location and orientation of other vessels. So, they affixed a red light to left (port) side and a green light to the right (starboard) side.
If the red light of the other ship was visible, it meant that their left side was facing you, thus they were on the right, and that you should yield to them. If their green light was visible, then you were the one with the right-of-way. This is where we get our modern traffic signal colors: red means stop and green means go. This same color system is still used today on aircraft.
If you have trouble keeping it all straight, remember that port wine is red, and that there's never any left in the morning. Incidentally, port wine is named after the Portuguese seaport city of Porto, from which it was originally exported. All three of those uses of port that I just boldfaced are derived from the Latin word 'portus' meaning 'harbor.'
Now you know.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Panama www.creampuff.us
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Re: Marco UP6/E pump and MASS+ light
We have a Marco pump on Elyse and don't have it connected to the bonding system.
As I understand it the bonding system as far as pumps etc go is only applicable to those items in contact with salt water. Regarding the 24V indicator panel light, we have the original wire connected to the red wire between the smart sensor and the pump. The green light on the panel comes on when the pump cycles and goes off when it stops. Our pump has been installed now for 2+ years and we have had no issues with it. Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: Now locker floor replacement
Germain Jean-Pierre
Hi Gang, I solved the problem by always using the chain wash (now fresh water on our boat) and at least once a year… doing a pressure wash in the chain well compartment. Cheers from Fiji. Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM 007
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Re: Now locker floor replacement
Thomas Kleman
Mike- your floor looks great. I know how hard it is to cut and refine that shape. On L'ORIENT my chain locker bilge (under that glassed in perforated grate at the bottom of the chain locker) was hoplessly clogged. I ended up cutting an access port in it so I could vacuum it out periodically.....it drains fine now. Wondering if other people have this problem or I just pick muddier places to anchor than most.....the actual outlet underneath there is about 15mm above the bottom and offset.
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Re: The two "sticks" on the genoa top swivel
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Mike, a while back I posted a photo of a tongue that goes through the inner of the swivel and into the slot in the foil. This locates the center and prevents the scratching you mention. This tongue often wears through. A number of SM owners have found this. There is one important feature, which if missing allows this wear to occur. This is a nylon "pencil" that sits in the foil with a mating slot in it for this tongue. I believe this "pencil" is often lost when non Amel riggers are doing work. The tongue is secured by two grub screws easily accessed. I suggest you check for the tongue and the nylon pencil. I am picking you will find both missing. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 20 May 2019 at 03:14 SV Trilogy <svtrilogy53@...> wrote:
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