Re: problem with the Climma
Lior,
I thought you said the breaker at the 220 panel popped when the compressor tried to start. This would not be indicative of the thermostat. Perhaps you have more than one issue going one.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us
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I tried to replace the capacitor but it did not help.
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Re: Bow locker seals
Hi Bob, I’m ready to change the seals on all of my deck lockers. Have you found the seals that you bought have held up and are still keeping the water out?
Any tips regarding the adhesive you used, or the process of installing the new ones? Anybody else done this job more than a year ago? Bill R said that he bought some that only lasted a couple of years on BeBe. Thanks
Kent and Iris
Kristy
SM243
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Re: problem with the Climma
Lior Keydar <sharona246@...>
I tried to replace the capacitor but it did not help.
I am almost sure it is the thermostat. when the temp. was set to 18 degree (minimum) the compressor did not start. As I wormed the sensor with my fingers the compressor started. I could start the compressor each time i wormed it. As I left it, after a minute or so, the compressor stopped. The cooling part is also sweating a little bit (because of the coldness). Is it normal? Could anyone advice me where I could order this thermostat? Do I have to order it with the switches and temp regulator? Thanks a lot for your help Lior
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Re: Watermaker motor
Is the relay working? Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 10:27 AM Denis Elborn <delborn@...> wrote: Hi all,
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Re: problem with the Climma
Lior,
That is exactly where I would start. I had a very similar experience with a unit and replaced the hard start capacitor with a Supco E Series unit. My unit called for the SPP5E model. Not sure if you have the same AC unit. This was for the Climma Compact 9. It’ll cost you $20-30 to find out if this is the culprit, or not.
Bill mentioned this capacitor was located in the control box. In my case the capacitor is located next to the compressor and behind the fan. This may have been a design change.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us
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Thanks a lot Bill and Mark
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Watermaker motor
Denis Elborn
Hi all,
The 24v motor Om my Duo D100 has stopped working, still has power going to it and it turns OK but that’s it. The water maker is working fine on the 220v motor. Any suggestions on how to trace the fault would be appreciated. Den and Julie Aventura A54 Manfredonia
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Re: problem with the Climma
Lior Keydar <sharona246@...>
Thanks a lot Bill and Mark
I measured the two capacitors (40 and 10 mF) and they seems to be ok. Should I try any way to replace them? My Climma is 13 years old (or the boat). Thanks Lior
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Re: problem with the Climma
Your Amel has a compressor start and a compressor run capacitor. They are inside the white control box. The thermostat, wiring, thermocouple, thermostat control board, system control board, or Compressor could be faulty. I would check in this order of probability: Start and Run Capacitors Thermostat Wiring connections PCBs (2) Thermocouple Compressor Refrigerant level Water flow Fan speed (flow) If you don't know how to do these things, hire an expert. Your Climmas are over 20 years old and beyond end of life. You will very likely be replacing them in the near future. Consider this. Best, CW Bill Rouse Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners www.YachtSchool.us 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 6:47 AM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:
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Re: problem with the Climma
Lior,
This sounds typical of the compressor start capacitor failing.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us
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Behalf Of Lior Keydar via Groups.Io
Hi all
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problem with the Climma
Lior Keydar <sharona246@...>
Hi all
When I start the climma, the compressor starts to work only by the minimum temp. of 18 degree (the others starts at higher temp). If I put the temp a bit higher the compressor stops. Until now everything is ok, only the temperature is not correct. When I put the temperature down again, the compressor wants to start but it doesn't and then the 220 switch in the galley switch off. I measured all the capacitors and they are ok. Does anyone has any idea what the problem could be? Thanks a lot in advance Lior, SHARONA A54 #018
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Re: B&G issues
Thanks Joerg
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I have found the issue, the SOG was not activated in the H3000 set up. All is ok now, but it will improve more once I calabrate all parameters Thanks Paul
On 28 Jul 2019, at 10:19 am, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:
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Re: B&G issues
Joerg Esdorn
Paul, i, too, have had a failure of the sonic speed transducer but the new one - a much revised model Airmar I’m told - has been working flawlessly for 2 years. If you do not have a BSP reading, you should check what the source of BSP is in the Settings Menu, likely under „system“ If it is the Airmar transducer, you should switch it to the paddle wheel (which is part of the depth and sea temp transducer, which is likely a dst200) and see whether you have BSP. If you do, replace the sonic speed. I would contact Stéphane at Pochon for this. He may be able to get you a new one for free because the old one had known problems, but at least he will be able to tell you which type to get. I’m not on the boat but can give you that info in late August if you still need it. If you don’t see BSP with the paddle wheel either, you should check the other settings. Again, I can help in late August.
You need BSP (or better yet, the drift corrected STW) to calculate the true wind direction and speed that you are seeing on the water - ie the wind speed and direction you need to make decisions whether to tack or gybe, for example, or to calibrate your wind instruments. You could use SOG, but then you are calculating the TWD and TWS without any current effect and since the boat is sailing in the current, this will give you wrong info. Even in the Med, current can make a significant difference. Joerg Esdorn A55 #53 Kincsem
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Re: B&G issues
That’s interesting Bill, I too am not a smart sailor but want to be and learn every step of the way I hope. I will look into the black box as I am appreciating more that all elements need to be calculated and calibrated correctly but I have relied on technicians to set things over many years but should learn to do these tests independently.
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I was under the impression that SOG or STW is a reference for the wind and current but obviously there is more two it,, back to study Thank you again for the great leads and your kind contributions and knowledge, again a great help, very appreciated Regards Paul
On 27 Jul 2019, at 7:13 pm, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: B&G issues
Paul, You are welcome. Some things are very difficult to sort out. Also, it is difficult to diagnose via email, but I am usually luckier than wrong.😀😀 To take this a step further. There are more than a few Amel owners who have lost SOW mostly because of faulty B&G Sonic Speed Sensors. A significant number of those do nothing because they say they have SOG on GPS. Without SOW, TWA and TWS are not accurate. Because I am not a smart sailor, I wanted and used TWA and TWS all of the time. TWA and TWS can be calculated using SOG, but you have to use a black box from A&T Electronics to convert the SOG data to SOW data before it is read by the B&G processor. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 11:21 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
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Re: B&G issues
Thank you very much Bill, I just found the issue, you lead me to the SOW being the reference for wind and the SOG was not referenced or switched on in the H3000 set up so now it’s activated alls working. I must have switched it off along the way or there’s a gremlin lurking
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Thanks to all for the community support its a great help Kind regards Paul 55#17
On 27 Jul 2019, at 4:37 pm, Paul Brown via Groups.Io <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
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Re: B&G issues
Thank you Bill for the help, I have recently replaced the paddle wheel and as mentioned under motor the other day the issues seemed to rectify for the rest of that journey, with accurate wind and speed through the water, so I am now suspecting an intermittent issue as a possibility also.
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I will be visiting Palma Mallorca early in the week so hopefully get a good B&G technician aboard Kind regards Paul
On 27 Jul 2019, at 2:54 pm, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: interesting quote
And some of my favorites: “A boat gets 1 foot shorter per person per day.” and “The gods do not deduct from our allotted time those hours spent in sailing.” Ascribed to a Phoenician proverb. Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240 Chesapeake Bay
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Erdos
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 10:00 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] interesting quote
There are indeed some awesome quotes here. Thanks so much for sharing. I have a new favorite now: “Waves are not measured in feet or inches, they are measured in increments of fear.” – Buzzy Trent
The first time this quote ever appeared in print was pretty recently in 1990. It is in a book by the bestselling author H. Jackson Brown, Jr. He published the work containing the quotation, but he did not take credit for it. The book “P.S. I Love You” contained a collection of wise aphorisms from Brown’s mother, Sarah Frances Brown. Each page contained one thought, and this quote was printed on page 13. Each remark was prefaced with “P.S.” and ended with “I love you, Mom”. I guess attributing it to Mark Twain is more impactful than the actual person deserving of the credit, Sarah Frances Brown.
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of eric freedman
I got that quote from here. There are some great sayings here. Fair Winds Eric
https://themusterstation.com/ocean-quotes/
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Erdos
Does this mean we are stuck between alive and dead – {smile} Isn’t this call being a zombie?
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of eric freedman
There are three sorts of people; those who are alive, those who are dead, and those who are at sea.”
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Re: B&G issues
TWS and TWA are mathematically calculated by the H3000 processor and the calculation requires accurate SOW input. You mentioned that you have no SOW. My guess is either your Sonic Speed or Paddlewheel transducers are not working properly, or a defective H3000 processor. Best, CW Bill Rouse Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners www.YachtSchool.us 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 3:37 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote: Hello all,
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Re: B&G issues
Thank you Tony, I will certainly contact Sarah on Monday, I’ve found the H3000 to be working ok except for this recent issue which I’m hoping it’s a simple fix like a low power or setup problem.
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Thanks again and much appreciated Paul 55#17
On 27 Jul 2019, at 1:12 pm, tony wells via Groups.Io <tony.wells@...> wrote:
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Re: B&G issues
Thank you Gerhard,
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Today the issue was still apparent underway using the motor, which is indicting it may not be a low power issue, although the other day I was underway using the motor for several hours and issue rectified its self so perhaps a power issue. Thanks again Regards Paul 55#17
On 27 Jul 2019, at 1:08 pm, Gerhard Mueller via Groups.Io <carcode@...> wrote:
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