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Re: Engine Repower for Super Maramu

Dan Wilcox
 

engine was $22k, labor was $24k, throw in some engine mounts additional parts and throw a 10% sales tax on it all.  Boat has circumnavigated at least 2 times and gone through 2 hr meters with at least 17,000 hours showing.  

When i bought the boat i could do 3,200 rpms, but now can only do 2,400.  Curently it is blowing plenty of black smoke.  i purhcased a new turbo and plan to install it this weekend.  the old one appeared to be failing.  I'm hoping that and maybe an injector cleaning is all I will need for now.

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend #86


On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:38 AM, Craig Briggs via Groups.Io
<sangaris@...> wrote:
Hi Dan,
As Kent noted, $55K is a breathtaking number, indeed - how much of that is installation labor?  I would have guessed the engine and transmission would be about $20K. 
Reading back on your posts I only see that you said your Perkins was "tired" which begs the question of exactly why you think you need to repower? How many hours are on your Perkins and just how is she "tired" - smoking, burning too much oil, not as much power as before? How's the cylinder compression? How about just rebuilding her or trading out for an already rebuilt engine. You could do it yourself for about $3000 or have it done for maybe $10K-ish.
Craig, SN68 Sangaris

Re: Engine Repower for Super Maramu

Craig & Katherine Briggs
 

Hi Dan,
As Kent noted, $55K is a breathtaking number, indeed - how much of that is installation labor?  I would have guessed the engine and transmission would be about $20K. 
Reading back on your posts I only see that you said your Perkins was "tired" which begs the question of exactly why you think you need to repower? How many hours are on your Perkins and just how is she "tired" - smoking, burning too much oil, not as much power as before? How's the cylinder compression? How about just rebuilding her or trading out for an already rebuilt engine. You could do it yourself for about $3000 or have it done for maybe $10K-ish.
Craig, SN68 Sangaris

Re: Engine Repower for Super Maramu

karkauai
 

Wow, Dan!  That’s more than twice what I paid in Puerto Rico ~5 years ago to repower with my 4JH4HTE.  Have you shopped around? 

Yanmar said the warranty could be voided if I used engine mounts other than the Yanmar mounts recommended.

Kent & Iris
SM 243
Kristy
Currently Turks&Caicos heading S for V.I.’s in a few days.

On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:19 AM, Dan Wilcox via Groups.Io <dwilcox123@...> wrote:

Thanks.  I have another local boat here that is a 1991 SM that got one put in, and has been running for 6 years without any problems to the C-drive.  I'm pushing out my decision to re-power for another year after having a little sticker shock on the price.  I was expecting it to be expensive, but at $55,000 I'm sitting back down... Right now we only use the boat a couple months a year cruising here in the Pacific NorthWest.  

Thanks, Dan Wilcox
Feierabend #86

Gearbox greasing

Cathy & Guillaume
 

Having read the different discussions on the placement of greasing holes on the three furler gearboxes, I would like to be absolutely sure before I start drilling... Are the attached locations the right ones? OK to do in situ? Many thanks.

Guillaume
s/v Carpathia III - SM#293

Re: Engine Repower for Super Maramu

Dan Wilcox
 

Thanks.  I have another local boat here that is a 1991 SM that got one put in, and has been running for 6 years without any problems to the C-drive.  I'm pushing out my decision to re-power for another year after having a little sticker shock on the price.  I was expecting it to be expensive, but at $55,000 I'm sitting back down... Right now we only use the boat a couple months a year cruising here in the Pacific NorthWest.  

Thanks, Dan Wilcox
Feierabend #86

On Sunday, February 24, 2019, 7:33:17 PM PST, Will Stout via Groups.Io <tango708@...> wrote:


Dan,
I have the Yanmar 110 hp 4JH4-HTE in Anni Bea True and she has performed really well.  I have about 1200 hours on the engine presently.  I did change the engine mounts to the HY150, which are the same mounts that the C-Drive uses.  I would recommend that you talk with Steve Davis on Aloha.  He re-powered with a newer version of the 4JH4-HTE that has more electronic control modules.  The engine is exceptionally smooth running.  

Warm Regards,
Will Stout
/)/) Anni Bea True
SM # 180
For Sale in Annapolis

Re: Engine Repower for Super Maramu

Will Stout <tango708@...>
 

Dan,
I have the Yanmar 110 hp 4JH4-HTE in Anni Bea True and she has performed really well.  I have about 1200 hours on the engine presently.  I did change the engine mounts to the HY150, which are the same mounts that the C-Drive uses.  I would recommend that you talk with Steve Davis on Aloha.  He re-powered with a newer version of the 4JH4-HTE that has more electronic control modules.  The engine is exceptionally smooth running.  

Warm Regards,
Will Stout
/)/) Anni Bea True
SM # 180
For Sale in Annapolis

Re: D3-110I-C Wandering RPM

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Ralph,

I have addressed this before but in a different context so I will do it again. Too late for you but it may save others. On a previous boat I had a heat exchanger salt water pipe rupture and dump gallons of salt water over the alternator. It was late and I was near my mooring so on the basis that fresh water had to be better than salt I, in situ, poured multiple jugs of fresh water over the alternator. While still wet I then emptied a can of CRC 556 into the alternator and went home. 5 years later it was still functioning perfectly and was still doing so when I sold the boat. I now use a marine variant of the same product and regularly spray it into and around my electric motors, alternators, starter motors and electrical connections. Stops corrosion and maintains connections and protects the electric motors from salt air. 

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

New Zealand


On 25 February 2019 at 03:02 "ralph.heilig" <ralph.heilig@...> wrote:

Hallo Dean,

I know this Problem. My Engine (D3-110 , 1600 Hours, 2008) has the same "Problem" between 1.000 and 1.200 rpm. It has it since many years and so far no Problem. As I noticed It's exactly when it wants to open the Turbo. So I think It's at low rpm and cold engine, when the Turbo opens and closes.

My experience after after 1600 hours D3:

1) I had to Change the raw water pump ( after 1.500 hours) - leaking and sea water running over the Alternator( which is stupidly mounted under the raw water pump) - so also a new Alternator 
2) I had a faulty oil pressure Sensor - Error was" low oil pressure" - tested and it was only a faulty oil sensor ( this happend after 80 hours nonstop motoring on flat see - 4 days nonstop - Maybe the sensor stuck due to this) Since my Engine is 2008 - there are differne oil sensors - the Electric Connection of the "actual" D3 oil sensor does no more fit-I found one on eBay that fitted (Part Nr. 863169).

Other Problems not regarding the Engine:

3) 3 (!) Mastervolt Mastercharger  - 2 x 40AMP, 1 x 100 AMP  - every two year one dies....
4) Replacement of the Freshwater Pump (after 8 year) due to pressure leaking - Discussed with AMEL- they said the pump is no more avaliable and I should go for a Jabsco (V-Flow). Now working since one year without problem-  mounting was easy.
5) Cooling Unit of the Refrigerator (after 9 years) - expensive repair 2.200 Euro..
6) Bilge Pump no more pumping - also after 9 years - Easy repair with the Marina ZZ Repair Kit (Setback Flap)
7) Climma Display LED - I had to replace 2 LED Display Chips ( 5€ one ) - The whole Display would cost About 200 - 300 Euro - but my Display just lost one or two Segments on the 7-segment Display...
8) The Hydaulic Gangway never worked perfect. somtimes I have to press x times the remote an shake the Gangway manually to get it working- Problem since day 1....
9) Mainfurler Gearbox - oil leaking - yet not fixed…


Greetings from Sardegna,
Ralph
SY Santa Isabella
AMEL 54 #144




 

Re: Wintering in Aegean

Massimo Vecchietti
 

I kept my boat in Samos  Marina for two winters. It is a good, tidy, secure, and cheap boatyard  .
Max
SM#84 Patchouli  II

Il giorno sab 23 feb 2019 alle ore 14:54 ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> ha scritto:
I kept my last boat in Leros at Partheni for three or four winters. It is a good, tidy, secure, boatyard. There are no shops nearby but the yard has a reasonable chandlery. It is walking distance to the airport with daily flights to Athens.
They can cope with quite large yachts maybe up to 80 feet. They can undertake pretty much anything work wise but I always did everything myself so I can not vouch for their workmanship personally.

Nick
Amelia Aml 54 019 currently ashore in La Palma Canary Islands.


See-me Radar transponder

eric freedman
 


Thanks to Ian and Judy Jenkins Pen Azen,

I installed a Sea Me target enhancer when Kimberlite was built.

I think it is  finally in need of replacement or repair. I cannot find the company. Does anyone have contact info?

 

If not I see that echomax unit  seems to be highly rated at this time.

Does anyone have experience with this target enhancer unit?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376’

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Re: D3-110I-C Wandering RPM

 

Dean, Most likely the turbo boost sensor which has been fouled by oil in the turbo, but being a D3, it could be any one of a dozen issues.

Mark, no apologies needed. Amel benefited by that association for a few years.😀

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 11:47 AM Mark Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:
HI Dean,

I believe the definitive experts on the Volvo D3-110-I are Porter McRoberts, who has had significant issues with this engine, and Bill Rouse of the Amel School.  Sorry Bill, I will likely be associating you with your old name for a long time.  Bill worked with Porter to help overcome his issues.

Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Re: D3-110I-C Wandering RPM

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

HI Dean,

I believe the definitive experts on the Volvo D3-110-I are Porter McRoberts, who has had significant issues with this engine, and Bill Rouse of the Amel School.  Sorry Bill, I will likely be associating you with your old name for a long time.  Bill worked with Porter to help overcome his issues.

Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Re: Watermaker Fuse

Ralph Heilig
 

Hallo Wolfgang,

My Dessalator Duo also once had the problem after long motoring (3 days nonstop) and a hot engine room. It only run 30min and then switched the fuse. After cooling down the engine room temp (after a day or so), it worked fine again.

I did not Change the fuse yet, but if you have detailed Information what fuse you installed and if it fits with the existing type (easy mounting?) I would be happy,

Ralph
SY Santa Isabella
AMEL 54 #144

Re: D3-110I-C Wandering RPM

Ralph Heilig
 

Hallo Dean,

I know this Problem. My Engine (D3-110 , 1600 Hours, 2008) has the same "Problem" between 1.000 and 1.200 rpm. It has it since many years and so far no Problem. As I noticed It's exactly when it wants to open the Turbo. So I think It's at low rpm and cold engine, when the Turbo opens and closes.

My experience after after 1600 hours D3:

1) I had to Change the raw water pump ( after 1.500 hours) - leaking and sea water running over the Alternator( which is stupidly mounted under the raw water pump) - so also a new Alternator 
2) I had a faulty oil pressure Sensor - Error was" low oil pressure" - tested and it was only a faulty oil sensor ( this happend after 80 hours nonstop motoring on flat see - 4 days nonstop - Maybe the sensor stuck due to this) Since my Engine is 2008 - there are differne oil sensors - the Electric Connection of the "actual" D3 oil sensor does no more fit-I found one on eBay that fitted (Part Nr. 863169).

Other Problems not regarding the Engine:

3) 3 (!) Mastervolt Mastercharger  - 2 x 40AMP, 1 x 100 AMP  - every two year one dies....
4) Replacement of the Freshwater Pump (after 8 year) due to pressure leaking - Discussed with AMEL- they said the pump is no more avaliable and I should go for a Jabsco (V-Flow). Now working since one year without problem-  mounting was easy.
5) Cooling Unit of the Refrigerator (after 9 years) - expensive repair 2.200 Euro..
6) Bilge Pump no more pumping - also after 9 years - Easy repair with the Marina ZZ Repair Kit (Setback Flap)
7) Climma Display LED - I had to replace 2 LED Display Chips ( 5€ one ) - The whole Display would cost About 200 - 300 Euro - but my Display just lost one or two Segments on the 7-segment Display...
8) The Hydaulic Gangway never worked perfect. somtimes I have to press x times the remote an shake the Gangway manually to get it working- Problem since day 1....
9) Mainfurler Gearbox - oil leaking - yet not fixed…


Greetings from Sardegna,
Ralph
SY Santa Isabella
AMEL 54 #144




 

Re: Engine room ventilator

Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
 

Hi everyone,
While on the topic...
Our engine room has no 220V blower, something that has bothered me for a while and often prompts me to open the engine room cover or turn on the DC powered blowers during longer generator runs... not a great set up.
Just curious what brands, styles, CFM ratings, etc. have worked well for others to ventilate the generator. And upstream of the main engine exhaust blower is the preferred installation? We plan to install something when we get to Panama City next month.

Thanks,
Mike & Hannah
SV Trilogy
SM#23
San Blas, Panama

Re: ANTI SIPHON VALVE INSTALLATION - YANMAR 4JH4-HTE

eric freedman
 

PS

On the upper right side of the u siphon there is a small hose that exhausts into the starboard scupper.

This breaks the siphon.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark McGovern
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 3:33 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] ANTI SIPHON VALVE INSTALLATION - YANMAR 4JH4-HTE

 

Alex,

Below are some pictures of the the anti-siphon setup on my Yanmar 4JH3- HTE engine.

Overview:




Exhaust Elbow Side:


Close Up of Vent Going to the Starboard Side Cockpit Drain:


Hope that helps you out.
--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: ANTI SIPHON VALVE INSTALLATION - YANMAR 4JH4-HTE

Mark McGovern
 

Alex,

Below are some pictures of the the anti-siphon setup on my Yanmar 4JH3- HTE engine.

Overview:




Exhaust Elbow Side:


Close Up of Vent Going to the Starboard Side Cockpit Drain:


Hope that helps you out.
--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: Engine room ventilator

Sv Garulfo
 

Thanks Olivier 

For info, the galley extractor uses a Plastimo 16275 (dated 2008, so probably installed by the yard). It’s rated 2A, 150m^3/h (88 cfm) so quite a bit less than the engine room blower (150 cfm). 
I did hope for some redundancy there and might decide to implement it.


Best,

Thomas 
GARULFO 
A54-122
Panama


On 23 Feb 2019, at 03:17, Beaute Olivier via Groups.Io <atlanticyachtsurvey@...> wrote:

Hello Thomas,

Amel indeed installed the heavy duty ones in the engine room and the 35440 for the galley exhaust. Yours may have been replaced since the boat is built with a normal one, just because the heavy duty one was not available. Or maybe the 35440 was originally installed because of a lack of the heavy duty ones (AMEL also had/has to face supply failures sometimes).
However, the inlet blower is the most exposed to salty air, and it may not be wise to install the most expensive there...

Bon courage.

Olivier

Re: Wintering in Aegean

ngtnewington Newington
 

I kept my last boat in Leros at Partheni for three or four winters. It is a good, tidy, secure, boatyard. There are no shops nearby but the yard has a reasonable chandlery. It is walking distance to the airport with daily flights to Athens.
They can cope with quite large yachts maybe up to 80 feet. They can undertake pretty much anything work wise but I always did everything myself so I can not vouch for their workmanship personally.

Nick
Amelia Aml 54 019 currently ashore in La Palma Canary Islands.

Re: Wintering in Aegean

@Sioned
 

I would recommend the Marina of Agios Nikolaos on Crete - if you can get a place there. We have a couple of Amel here, most afloat though.
It is one of the cheaper marinas in Greece with a lively town 100m from the marina. 1 hour to the airport of Iraklion (no direct flights during the winter, have to change in Athen). All services present.
Costs for being on the hard are the same as for being afloat but the marina is always full during the winter, so you have to book quite early.

Michael, SY SIONED, Maramu #148

Re: Engine room ventilator

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Thomas,

Amel indeed installed the heavy duty ones in the engine room and the 35440 for the galley exhaust. Yours may have been replaced since the boat is built with a normal one, just because the heavy duty one was not available. Or maybe the 35440 was originally installed because of a lack of the heavy duty ones (AMEL also had/has to face supply failures sometimes).
However, the inlet blower is the most exposed to salty air, and it may not be wise to install the most expensive there...

Bon courage.

Olivier