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Re: Toe pulley
jlm@jlmertz.fr
Super, Thank you I will contact Mark ... Merci Jean Luc
Le 13/05/2019 à 05:34, Alan Leslie a
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Hi Jean-Luc,
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Re: Pasarelle on 54
Hi Bill, The rope for the Opacmare pasarelle is very expensive- 350 Euro. I was lucky to find a new ( part 9324994926) on Ebay for 200 Euro. Next time I will try to built a rope myself using a protection for sheets( 5 $/ft) and put inside a rubberline and small dyneema. Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54#162 Annapolis
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Re: Electric Motor for SM main outhaul/furler
David Vogel
Thanks Bob,
Yes, Didier, he is a real gem. He did our engine mounts in 2017, and the new wire-mesh filter (and stop-cocks) for the ONAN in 2018. Most comforting to know that the impeller is still intact.
I’ll try to track down some InterProtect here in Panama before we leave, and that can be another of the many little projects for when we’re whiling away the time, twiddling our thumbs with nothing else to do out in the remote Pacific. Ha - dreamin! (In the meantime, it the motor is safely tucked away and vacuum-sealed.)
Blue skies,
David&Leanne SM#396/Perigee
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Re: Electric Motor for SM main outhaul/furler
Didier is the absolute best for those things, and a Preferred Vendor of yacht School.
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 11:52 AM rossirossix4 <rossidesigngroup@...> wrote: We also replaced an old motor about a year ago (it really was very un-repairable). Couple of things. Like you say, David, the replacement motors are a slightly smaller diameter. We used 3 rubber spacers and then silicone sealer/adhesive to fit it to the black enclosure holder. But first, the motor needs to be painted. The yard at Malta--Manoel Island Yacht Yard--recommended 2 part epoxy InterProtect which is what we used--several coats. Easy to do, we did all the work ourselves.
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Re: The two "sticks" on the genoa top swivel
A short piece of fuel line and some contact cement make good "caps" for those 'horns'.
Having experienced a halyard wrap up there once, I wouldn't consider running without them. If you are doing regular maintenance on the swivel then it's far less likely the horns would touch the mast, but if the swivel jams even slightly the horns are the best defense against getting the halyard wrapped and broken at the masthead. Can't really explain how I discovered this. :) Gary W. SM 209, "Adagio" Beaufort, NC USA
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Re: The two "sticks" on the genoa top swivel
Mike Ondra
After bending and straightening these (embarrassingly) twice, I replaced them. The ss rods are readily available on the internet and had a local machine shop cut the threads. (stainless being a bit difficult to thread cleanly). A couple of nuts and lockwashers and voilà. Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of SY STELLA
I’m interested in this subject too. I recently lost one of the black rubber/plastic covers from one of the ‘sticks’. I’d hate to think it was gouging the mast!
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Re: The two "sticks" on the genoa top swivel
Martin Bevan
As others have stated, the two sticks are important. On our Atlantic crossing I found one on the deck, the anti vibration nut having vibrate off, I found the errant nut in the top swivel. In attempting to furl the Genoa the second “stick” sheered off. Not fully understanding what these metal stays did, we found out the hard way - without them furling results in slicing through halyards, inconvenient when the Cape Verde Islands are 100nm astern. In this instance I had one stay as a pattern and as fortune would have it a length of stainless bar to fabricate a second. In Martinique in 2010 I purchased 4 spares which of course I have never required.
Now to the point. We have replaced the original Bamar furler, foil and top swivel with a Reckmann. I therefore have 4 spares, which will work for a 54 or SM which I would be delighted to sell for €Offers plus the cost of P&P. Currently on board in Spain but I will be taking them back to the UK in June. I also have spare spare impellers for the original Reya water and air con pumps which have also been replaced if they are of interest to anyone. Martin Bevan Caduceus AMEL 54 #56 Sant Carles de la Rapita, Spain
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Re: Electric Motor for SM main outhaul/furler
rossirossix4
We also replaced an old motor about a year ago (it really was very un-repairable). Couple of things. Like you say, David, the replacement motors are a slightly smaller diameter. We used 3 rubber spacers and then silicone sealer/adhesive to fit it to the black enclosure holder. But first, the motor needs to be painted. The yard at Malta--Manoel Island Yacht Yard--recommended 2 part epoxy InterProtect which is what we used--several coats. Easy to do, we did all the work ourselves.
Also, at our later request Maud shipped us the brush replacement kit. It was, of course, more expensive than just brushes--I can probably find the part number and price if anyone needs it. The Amel parts person at Hyères told us that the new motor was more powerful than the old--I have not confirmed that but seems to work well. We just arrived at the dock in front of Chantiers AMEL - Caraïbes bound for Aruba. Didier is going to do some preventative maintenance in the form of engine mount replacement, carbon removal from the Onan, and an impeller strainer for the Onan. Will take some pics. Bob and Suzanne, KAIMI
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Re: Main Outhaul early SM 2K
Mike Ondra
Hi Kent, Many ways to skin this cat. When this shaft seized in place on Aletes, we stacked cribbing under the gear box to the deck to spread out the load and used a hydraulic jack to push the shaft out. Having applied brut force on a previous disassembly and breaking the top cover of the gear box, this time I was careful to shim between the gear box and boom so that the force of the jacking didn’t break the cover. Now we pull and lube the shaft every 3 to 6 months. Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240 Rock Hall, MD
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Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2019 3:58 PM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Main Outhaul early SM 2K
I’ll get my tool made and report on its efficacy, with pics if it works ;-)>. Will definitely take all advice, trim the key and the shaft, use NeverSieze, and remove every 3 months for regreasing.
I’ll spray some PB Blaster around the top seal, but doubt much if any will make it past the seal. Dry Ice and heat if the tool doesn’t work.
Jeez, somehow I make seemingly simple tasks into major productions. At least this one seems to have given most everyone problems... Kent Kristy SM243
Hi Gary, When I had to drive out the shaft with a sledge hammer I found that as soon as the key cleared the keyway the shaft slid out easily. I believe the key is the only thing that needs to be adjusted. I remove the shaft 4 times a year and lubricate it with high temp. stainless Neva-Seez and have had no further problem in over 10 years. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Silver via Groups.Io
Hi Kent:
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Re: Toe pulley
Sorry, I see we still have this email issue...
mfmcgovern at gmail dot com Cheers Alan
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Re: Toe pulley
Red1 Stella SM359
Jean Luc,
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I have installed the SS units on Stella, they work fine and I would recommend them. These are well made and definitely worth the price. Regards, Redouan Assar SM359 Stella
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Re: Electric Motor for SM main outhaul/furler
When I ordered a new motor from AMEL 2 years ago, this is what I got.
Maud told me the original MBT86 was not available anymore. I only realised the new one was smaller diameter when it arrived. I used some 2mm rubber strip to wrap around the motor so it would fit more snugly in the black housing end piece. It appears there is no way to service the brushes on these motors. Best Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: Toe pulley
Hi Jean-Luc,
I paid USD 446 for 2 sets of pulleys (same as the Amel alloy ones, but in stainless steel) including shipping to Australia. Mark McGovern makes them. Contact him on mfmcgovern@... Best Alan
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Re: The two "sticks" on the genoa top swivel
Miles
Hi Mike and Hannah,
The two sticks are important. They guarantee that the halyard cannot ever wrap around the stay. On many boats other than Amels, if there is any dirt or anything making the top swivel a little less than free, the halyard can wrap when you are trying to furl the sail. This can happen in a blow and suddenly you cannot furl or drop the sail (guess how I know this). Amel fits each stick with a rubber sleeve that protects the paint on the mast. I would suggest that your order one stick and two rubber sleeves.
As many people in this group have said, Amel never did anything without a reason. The reason may not be obvious at first, but there is a reason. When I bought my boat, Amel told me they would be interested in my comments, but not until I had sailed for at least a year. They explained that in their experience, it would take at least a year for me to understand why they had done what they did. In fact, it took longer and after 20 years I still come across cleaver bits that I had not noticed.
Regards,
Miles
s/y Ladybug, SM 216, Martinique
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Re: The two "sticks" on the genoa top swivel
JOHN HAYES
Mine is at deck level cause have just replaced the fore stay. Think you could easily make up a new one out of stainless and use a die to cut a new thread
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Thanks for the fuel tube idea Danny. Best John Hayes NGA Waka SN41
On 13/05/2019, at 6:54 AM, SY STELLA <stella@...> wrote:
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Re: Main Outhaul early SM 2K
I’ll get my tool made and report on its efficacy, with pics if it works
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;-)>. Will definitely take all advice, trim the key and the shaft, use NeverSieze, and remove every 3 months for regreasing. I’ll spray some PB Blaster around the top seal, but doubt much if any will make it past the seal. Dry Ice and heat if the tool doesn’t work. Jeez, somehow I make seemingly simple tasks into major productions. At least this one seems to have given most everyone problems... Kent Kristy SM243
On May 12, 2019, at 2:23 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
Hi Gary, When I had to drive out the shaft with a sledge hammer I found that as soon as the key cleared the keyway the shaft slid out easily. I believe the key is the only thing that needs to be adjusted. I remove the shaft 4 times a year and lubricate it with high temp. stainless Neva-Seez and have had no further problem in over 10 years. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Silver via Groups.Io
Hi Kent:
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Re: Diesel Class
Thanks Mark...great suggestions!
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Kent S/V Kristy SM243
On May 12, 2019, at 1:16 PM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:
Kent,
If you plan to take Kristy there, you can stay in the city mooring field: 38°58'33.7"N 76°28'58.6"W This will be a lot cheaper alternative to the very expensive marinas in the area. It is first come first served so get there a few days before the school starts to get an outer buoy (for larger vessels). You will not have trouble getting a mooring on Mondays – Thursdays. Weekends can be iffy.
Use the public dinghy docks. It is a short walk to the school. Each of the numbered streets on the Eastport peninsular have free public dinghy docks. There is one located at the south end of 6th street. If it is blowing hard you can use the north end of 4th and walk.
You will find the school very educational and well worth the money.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - San Blas Islands, Panama
From:
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AHi again everyone,
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Re: The two "sticks" on the genoa top swivel
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Mike, just to add to the other answers. Yes they are needed, both of them. Absolutely essential At times they can become bent and need straitening or replacing. Never leave them uncovered. The cover is best dine with a heavy wall rubber tubing to give maximum mast protection. I use fuel hose. It comes in many internal diameters and is rubber like and has thick walls. Just find one that is a tight fit. I cover most of the length.. You don't need to go up the mast, unroll the headsail and drop the furler to deck level. Why do they get bent? In my case I used to carry the spare halyard clipped to the pulpit. It sagged back a little and when I furled the headsail it got caught up in the sail. Result two very "bent sticks". That was in my first months of ownership. Needless to say for the last 10 years I have never carried the spare halyard there. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 13 May 2019 at 06:04 SV Trilogy <svtrilogy53@...> wrote:
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Re: The two "sticks" on the genoa top swivel
I’m interested in this subject too. I recently lost one of the black rubber/plastic covers from one of the ‘sticks’. I’d hate to think it was gouging the mast!
I also have never seen these devices on other furling systems. Maybe I need to get up there and wrap it in some self-vulcanising tape, or heatshrink sleeving?? Presumably Maud can supply new sleeves and sticks. Dean SY Stella A54-164
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Re: Electric Motor for SM main outhaul/furler
David Vogel
Hi Eric,
With pleasure ... Type: MBT82 M Induit: 24V 27A Puissance: 450W Vitesse: 3100min-1 Service: S2 5mn Protection: IP44 Classe: F Blue skies, David SM#396/Perigee
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