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Re: SM Goiot Hatch Models & Lense Colors

amelforme
 

Hi Gary. Not sure of anything except Amel sanded those two hatches, with a jitterbug, to opaque those hatches for privacy.
Pretty sure your guesses on the colors are correct. 

All The Best, Joel
JOEL F. POTTER
CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
Office 954-462-5869 

On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:34 AM, Gary Silver via Groups.Io <garysilver@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi All:  

First post on the new site.  Really great search engine here, but wasn't able to find this info. Doing the research to replace a couple of lenses on my Goiot hatches as they are starting to have crazing (the little speckles that appear in the lense with UV/aging.  I believe the hatches on the deck of the my Amel SM 2000 #335 are Goiot Traditional model hatches and the hatch on the aft face of the aft cabin is a Goiot Cristal Range model.  Can anyone confirm these model designations for me.  The saloon hatch is the PN 50.50, and the aft cabin hatch is ??? PN 49.36-T50 ????

Lenses for the foredeck are "blue" , I believe, and it must be that Amel somehow made the forward cabin and forward head lenses seimi-opaque as I don't see that Goiot offers that option.  Any thoughts on that process?

Goiot offers both blue and gray lenses.  I am virtually certain that the saloon hatch lenses is blue, but am uncertain about the color of the aft cabin hatch lenses color (comes standard as gray) or for the color of the forward cabin and forward head lenses.    Any thoughts and information would be appreciated. 

Sincerely, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona'
Amel SM #335   -  Puerto Del Rey Marina - Fajardo Puerto Rico

SM Goiot Hatch Models & Lense Colors

Gary Silver
 
Edited

Hi All:  

First post on the new site.  Really great search engine here, but wasn't able to find this info. Doing the research to replace a couple of lenses on my Goiot hatches as they are starting to have crazing (the little speckles that appear in the lense with UV/aging).  I believe the hatches on the forward deck of the my Amel SM 2000 #335 are Goiot Traditional model hatches and the hatch on the aft face of the aft cabin is a Goiot Cristal model.  Can anyone confirm these model designations for me?

The saloon hatch is the ??  PN 50.50  ??, and the aft cabin hatch is ??? PN 49.36-T50 ????  Confirmation from anybody aboard.

Lenses for the foredeck are "blue" , I believe, and it must be that Amel somehow made the forward cabin and forward head lenses seimi-opaque as I don't see that Goiot offers that option.  Any thoughts on that process?

Goiot offers both blue and gray lenses.  I am virtually certain that the saloon hatch lens is blue, but am uncertain about the color of the aft cabin hatch lenses color (comes standard as gray) or for the color of the forward cabin and forward head lenses.    Any thoughts and information would be appreciated. 

Sincerely, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona'
Amel SM #335   -  Puerto Del Rey Marina - Fajardo Puerto Rico

Re: Rudder Stuffing Box

Arno Luijten
 

There is a recent episode of Delos where Brian shows you how he repacks the rudder gland. It one of the episodes where they do boatwork on Grenada,

Re: New furlers on an Amel 54

Arno Luijten
 

The point is that I wanted to also the EM boxes available as a backup. Also I wanted to protection to work both on furling and unfurling. I did think about the argument that the majority of power is dissipated when furling, but if something snags it might as well be when unfurling.

The staysail on our Amel only has 2 wires from the remote switch and no 24 volt feed line to the switch from the sail locker. I also did not like to use the 6 pin plug for both the connection of the furler as the connection of the remote switch. Using separate plugs makes troubleshooting easier.

This combined with the additional functionality of the local switch and status LEDs made me come up with this installation. I did not say there were no other ways of doing it. They all have drawbacks.

Arno

Re: Rudder Stuffing Box

eric freedman
 

Hi Thomas,

I install the packing with a axel grease on the rudder post and the perimeter of the inside of the stuffing box.

I drive the stuffing down with a large diameter piece if PVC pipe and a small sledge hammer until the packing bottoms out.

Over the years I have had the top few threads of the stuffing box strip.

This fall I had a 10 mm thick round piece of fiberglass made  with the inside formed around the nut, thus threaded.

Its outside diameter is about the same as the stuffing box.

It was fixed in place with epoxy and screws. I now have a stuffing box with 5 pieces of packing.

Having 5 pieces of packing also allows 4 pieces to be changed in the water.

 

If you have a big shop vac you can also change all the packing while in the water with some weight moved to the bow.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Germain Jean-Pierre
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 4:53 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rudder Stuffing Box

 

Hi Thomas,

As an opinion, I would not relaunch before getting a solution.  So it works on launch... how about in 2 years??

 

Good luck

 

On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, 10:32 Thomas Kleman, <lorient422@...> wrote:

Yes- I removed all three rings.....probably original to the boat. When I put three of the Amel supplied rings in, the nut won't grab the stuffing box. I'm going back in the water soon so we will see if it leaks.

Re: Rudder Stuffing Box

James Alton
 

Thomas,

  IMO the plastic threads on the packing nut are not really strong enough to compress all of the packing until you have a few threads engaged.  You might try pressing your new packing into the groove using some other creative means. Just don’t damage the packing or the threads.  It can help to compress one ring at a time getting the first two rings fully bottomed before adding the third, the packing nut should work to compress the first two rings.  Then when you install the plastic packing nut but sure that it is not cross threaded and give it a little gentle help compressing the packing by installing some wedges between the quadrant and the nut. Be sure that the threads on the packing nut have not be damaged from your first attempt.  

Best of luck,

James
SV Sueno

On Feb 17, 2019, at 4:32 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

Yes- I removed all three rings.....probably original to the boat. When I put three of the Amel supplied rings in, the nut won't grab the stuffing box. I'm going back in the water soon so we will see if it leaks.

Re: Rudder Stuffing Box

Dave Ritten <daveritten@...>
 

If the thread is stripped you could try Loctite Thread Repair

https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-442-28654-4-80ml-Thread-Stripped/dp/B000WSEUII



Re: Rudder Stuffing Box

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hi Thomas,
As an opinion, I would not relaunch before getting a solution.  So it works on launch... how about in 2 years??

Good luck

On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, 10:32 Thomas Kleman, <lorient422@...> wrote:
Yes- I removed all three rings.....probably original to the boat. When I put three of the Amel supplied rings in, the nut won't grab the stuffing box. I'm going back in the water soon so we will see if it leaks.

Re: Rudder Stuffing Box

Thomas Kleman
 

Yes- I removed all three rings.....probably original to the boat. When I put three of the Amel supplied rings in, the nut won't grab the stuffing box. I'm going back in the water soon so we will see if it leaks.

Re: New Group

amelforme
 

To Bill and his exalted team of tech cronies, fantastic work. Just got a few minutes today to play around with the new AYOG and it is a clear improvement in every way.

 

Thanks for your efforts. They are appreciated by one and all more than you will ever know. Thanks again.

 

All The Best, Joel

 

          JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                   Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

 

Re: Rudder Stuffing Box

Jean-Pierre Germain <jp.germain45@...>
 


Hello Thomas,

Did you remove all the old stuffing material?  There should be 3 rings with the ends butting 120 degrees apart.

I also use plenty of waterproof silicone grease when installing the packing nut.

Good luck,

Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM 007,
Opua, NZ



On 18 Feb 2019, at 09:44, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

Was down to my last quarter turn on the plastic nut so decided to repack the stuffing box while on the hard. Quadrant was seized and needed 6 hours and a custom made puller tool to get it off. Then pulled out the stuffing and repacked it. Tapped it down and all seemed good...except nut now encounters stuffing too high in box to grab......stuffing is mashed down so I guess top part of box is stripped. Its not the nut (I have three and tried all of them). For now I have two rings of stuffing in and ironically Im back to one quarter turn left on the nut......and a day of my life gone. Ideas ?

Rudder Stuffing Box

Thomas Kleman
 

Was down to my last quarter turn on the plastic nut so decided to repack the stuffing box while on the hard. Quadrant was seized and needed 6 hours and a custom made puller tool to get it off. Then pulled out the stuffing and repacked it. Tapped it down and all seemed good...except nut now encounters stuffing too high in box to grab......stuffing is mashed down so I guess top part of box is stripped. Its not the nut (I have three and tried all of them). For now I have two rings of stuffing in and ironically Im back to one quarter turn left on the nut......and a day of my life gone. Ideas ?

Re: New furlers on an Amel 54

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

I don't get the confusion on the new Bamar furler electronic connection.
I just did the change to the new EJF1. The wiring scheme on the (if I remember correctly) 7 pin plug was 2 thermal leads to 2 pins, 3 leads to the furler to control the in/out to 2 pins, with 1 of those pins having 2 wires attached to 1 pin, and the 2 switch leads to 2 other pins. There was 1 unused pin. Plug it in (after the hot +/-)in and +/-out to the furler) are connected, and you're done. This wiring was confirmed by Paul from Bamar. 
I'm not on the boat, but will be Monday. I can tell you which pin #s to connect the wires to if I looked at the wiring scheme in the manual. It works just fine. No extra switches or anything.
Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14


On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 11:38 AM, Mark Mueller wrote:

An alternative connection scheme: I ran into this problem when changing over to the new Bamar about 7 months ago.  After several conversations with Paul and him communicating with Bamar’s engineers an alternative connection plan was utilized.

 

Assuming that majority of the power is utilized when furling and therefore heat generated I connected the thermal cut-off switch in series with the “Furl” switch.  If the motor overheats when furling the thermal overload opens and protects the motor.  All the connections were made in the new control box mounted in the forepeak with no additional interface necessary. 

Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

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How to Edit a Post

Mark McGovern
 

One of the nice new features that we got from moving from Yahoo Groups to Groups.io is the ability to edit your posts AFTER they have been posted.  We've had a few questions from Group members on how to do that so I decided to make this post showing you how to edit your posts.  NOTE:  You can even edit posts that you made years earlier on the Yahoo Group!  
 
1.  Go to the post you want to edit
2.  Click the "More" Option circled in RED in the picture below:
 
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3.  Click on the "EDIT MESSAGE" option shown below circled in RED
 
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4.  Wait for the Edit Message window to pop open and edit the message:
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5.  To save your changes click one of the two (2) buttons circled in RED below.  The one on the far left called "Save and Send to Group" will save the changes AND will send an email message to the group about the edit.  The one to the right of that called "Save without Sending" just saves the changes but does NOT send an email to the group about the edit.
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I hope that helps.  Let me know if you have any more questions.
 

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: New Group

Kaplan,Andre
 

To Bill and his colleagues who moved this forum to groups.io...
I would like to extend my sincere thanks for your efforts in this endeavor. This platform is far easier for me to use and has opened up previously hard to find data.
Nice Job!
Andre Kaplan
Mango 71 88


On Feb 17, 2019, at 2:12 PM, Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:

This is a test message.  Ignore me!

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: New furlers on an Amel 54

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

An alternative connection scheme: I ran into this problem when changing over to the new Bamar about 7 months ago.  After several conversations with Paul and him communicating with Bamar’s engineers an alternative connection plan was utilized.

 

Assuming that majority of the power is utilized when furling and therefore heat generated I connected the thermal cut-off switch in series with the “Furl” switch.  If the motor overheats when furling the thermal overload opens and protects the motor.  All the connections were made in the new control box mounted in the forepeak with no additional interface necessary. 

Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Re: New furlers on an Amel 54

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Alex,

Well, planning 10 months in the the future is almost impossible in the Caribbean but nothing spectacular happens (like a Hurricane or so) I will be happy to help.

It will be interesting to see the differences between our 54’s. What build number do you have?

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

Re: Additional solar location?

smiles bernard
 

A big thanks to all who replied to this

I’ve got some great ideas to work with and a good project to get started with on the ‘nice to do soon’ list

Many thanks
Miles

Apologies

 

When we were testing Groups.io, I wanted to test the Groups.io Facebook integration because I had hoped to integrate Dimitris Krasopoulos' excellent Amel Owners Group Facebook Group. Dimitris was all for it, and Mark McGovern, Gary Wells, Mark Erdos, and Danny Simms were in agreement. 

So, I tested it with the Facebook Page that I controlled...it worked fine during the test.

Today I made some changes to that Facebook Page and each change posted in our new Amel Yacht Owners Group. I am embarrassed and sorry for the mistake. I can't undo it, but I have deleted those automatic postings, and changed the settings so that it will not happen again.

The rest of the story is, even though the test worked great from a facebook Page, it does not work from a Facebook Group...and Dimitris has a group located at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/amelyachtowners/
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Best,
 
Bill Rouse

Re: New furlers on an Amel 54

Alexander Ramseyer
 

Hi Arno,
would you eventually assist me with the electrics if I came to St. Martin to do the job in the Nov/December timeframe?

I could bring you things from the U.S. if needed..

Best regards, Alex
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Am 16.02.19, 06:44, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> schrieb:

Yes FKG did the mechanics. I did all electrics myself.
Haven’t been out sailing yet but they seem to have done a good job.

Arno Luijten
SV Luna
A54-121