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Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

Paul Stascavage
 

Hello Eric,

My apologies if I was not clear. The blocks in the attached photo are the attachment points for the main sheet on the main boom. The block to the right in the photo was cracked, wiggled, and soon to fail. We had a new one fabricated in VA (see original post). 

The original block was screwed into the aluminum track (see photo of forward view of missen boom). This piece of aluminum is only about 1/8 inch thick. 

When i installed the new fabricated block and the one aft of it I slid the fabricated plates on top of the existing track and bolted them together with 1/4-20 Alan screws. Hence there is now 3/8 th’s inches of meat holding the block in place rather than the original 1/8 th inch. 

We hope to travel to your neck of the woods and Newport sometime mid August.  I will reach out to you when we have a better idea of our plans. 

All the best,

Paul Stascavage 

SM #466 s/v Rita Kathryn 
Currently Exploring City Island, NY

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: Shore power contactor burnt out

Craig Briggs
 
Edited

Eamonn,

You can, indeed, remove the generator end without pulling the whole unit. If you can diagnose the problem as the rotor, that is very simple to pull, but if you can't pin it down the whole generator end is not much more work to remove. You'll want to separate the rotor and stator so you're not schlepping too much weight. No need to pull the diesel motor end.

I got my rotor rewound (a 6kw Northern Lights - similar to your Onan) in Venezuela for under $200 (two hundred) US. Try an industrial generator shop that doesn't have "marine" or "Onan" in it's name. It's just a bunch of generic wire and any competent shop can do the work.  An entirely new generator end should be about $2,000 so keep shopping around as 2000 euros seems very high for a rewind. (Unless most of it is for labor to pull the generator, which you can easily do yourself and just give them the rotor. Send me 10% for all the money you'll save ;-)

Good luck with it,
Craig Briggs (the incurable DIY guy), SN68 Sangaris
PS.  I'd look around Palermo - Trapani is pretty thin on industrial resources.


Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

eric freedman
 

Hi Paul,

Where is the plate that you replaced located?

What does it do?

 

I am at The Huntington Yacht Club.

Are you planning  to head this way?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Stascavage via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 10:45 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Main sheet boom slider broken

 

Good day fellow sailors/repairmen.

Just to follow up on this posting, although my block was cracking, it was not in really bad shape. Hence, I did what many of us do and put the task at the bottom of the todo list.

Well, time doing what it does best, things changed for the worse.  After inspecting the block recently, I had to bite the bullet and get the job done.  It was a pain to drill out the screws that I could not remove with an impact driver, but once everything was drilled out, the job wasn’t too bad.

In evaluating the cause for the failure, it seemed to me that the weak link in the chain was the size of the original screws and the minimal thickness of the aluminum track that the screws were threaded into.  Hence, when re-installing the new block (and the one aft that needed to be removed to slide out the failed one), rather than re-tapping for the same size screws in an offset position, I did something different. 

I had 1/4 inch aluminum backing plates fabricated (see photos).  These were drilled and tapped to accommodate 1/4-20 alan head screws (the blocks also had to be drilled to accommodate the larger screws).  We maneuvered these into place using string attached to the ends of the plates, and with some finesse and patience, we were able to line it all up and bolt everything together. 

This method should be much stronger than the original installation, and enabled me to keep the blocks in their original location.

Hope this may be of some use to those who have yet to deal with this issue.  BOAT - Broken Or About To.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Currently Exploring City Island, NY

www.RitaKathryn.com


Forward and Captains Berth Panel Lining

Paul Stascavage
 

Good day all.

We are looking to replace the lining material on the forward berth and captains berth wall panels (see attached photos).  The current material is similar if not the same as that which covers the foam berth mattresses and appear to be glued on.  The lining is worn, stained , etc.  We wish to replace it with the same material that lines our ceilings and shower walls - a vinyl like material that will be more durable and easier to clean/maintain (we were able to order some from Amel).

I believe earlier SM had the pleated cushion material velcroed into place in the forward berth.  Not sure what the earlier models had in the captains berth.  Does anyone have any experience dealing with re-lining these areas? I don’t know if these panels are removable or how we should proceed as it appears it would be quite difficult to deal with the areas that meet the mahogany wood bulkheads..

Any and all ideas/assistance will be greatly appreciated.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Currently Exploring City Island, NY

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

Paul Stascavage
 

Good day fellow sailors/repairmen.

Just to follow up on this posting, although my block was cracking, it was not in really bad shape. Hence, I did what many of us do and put the task at the bottom of the todo list.

Well, time doing what it does best, things changed for the worse.  After inspecting the block recently, I had to bite the bullet and get the job done.  It was a pain to drill out the screws that I could not remove with an impact driver, but once everything was drilled out, the job wasn’t too bad.

In evaluating the cause for the failure, it seemed to me that the weak link in the chain was the size of the original screws and the minimal thickness of the aluminum track that the screws were threaded into.  Hence, when re-installing the new block (and the one aft that needed to be removed to slide out the failed one), rather than re-tapping for the same size screws in an offset position, I did something different. 

I had 1/4 inch aluminum backing plates fabricated (see photos).  These were drilled and tapped to accommodate 1/4-20 alan head screws (the blocks also had to be drilled to accommodate the larger screws).  We maneuvered these into place using string attached to the ends of the plates, and with some finesse and patience, we were able to line it all up and bolt everything together. 

This method should be much stronger than the original installation, and enabled me to keep the blocks in their original location.

Hope this may be of some use to those who have yet to deal with this issue.  BOAT - Broken Or About To.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Currently Exploring City Island, NY

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: Shore power contactor burnt out

Eamonn Washington
 

Hi

the failed contactor also melted the socket leaving the boat for the shore, and it turns out also damaged either the stator or rotor of the generator with an estimated rewind price of around 2000 euros and also involves taking the generator out of the boat for a week.

I could get it repaired in Sicily, but if anyone can recommend a place to repair the generator in the Western Mediterranean I would appreciate it.  We can live without the generator for a month or so.  Is it really necessary to remove the Onan 6.5kW generator to repair the stator or rotor?
 
Thanks

--
Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
Currently in Trapani, Sicliy, Italy.


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

Brass Ring <brassring44@...>
 

Thanks for the information Bill, saved me from thumbing thru the Yacht School bible, formerly AMEL School, to verify which pump was installed.  
-- 
Mark Mueller
email - brass.ring@...
A54 


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

Brass Ring <brassring44@...>
 

Lior, thank you for the data.  I will post any information I find if I locate a US source.

--
Mark Mueller
email - brass.ring@pobox.com
A54


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

 

Lior and others interested:

Unless you were the original owner, be careful to assume that is what is currently on your boat was actually Amel OEM installed equipment.

This is the Amel SM & early 54 OEM Reya 66B Freshwater Pump:
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This is the 54 OEM Reya 88b freshwater pump that was installed on most 54s
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This is the SM & 54 OEM S40 OEM Anchor Wash Pump
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Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:30 AM Lior Keydar via Groups.Io <sharona246=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bill,

I checked again. The 66B is installed on my boat as an anchor wash pump.

Lior


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

Lior Keydar <sharona246@...>
 

Bill,

I checked again. The 66B is installed on my boat as an anchor wash pump.

Lior


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

 

Lior,

Kit 66B is NOT anchor wash. It is the standard freshwater pump for SMs. I am sure that there are SM owners that will want the 66B kit.

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 2:31 AM Lior Keydar via Groups.Io <sharona246=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am sending the file that was with the kit. It was also writing Kit A88 219450 (in hand writing, i am not sure...)
Sorry, I did not buy it my self. This is the information that was with the parts.
I have also the spare kit for A66B (anchor wash pump). For this kit it is written REYA CODE: 219432 "kit de maintenance A66B"

I hope it helps

Lior
SHARONA A54 #18


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

Lior Keydar <sharona246@...>
 

The dimensions is 7x12x25, length of the cable is 35 mm


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

Lior Keydar <sharona246@...>
 

I am sending the file that was with the kit. It was also writing Kit A88 219450 (in hand writing, i am not sure...)
Sorry, I did not buy it my self. This is the information that was with the parts.
I have also the spare kit for A66B (anchor wash pump). For this kit it is written REYA CODE: 219432 "kit de maintenance A66B"

I hope it helps

Lior
SHARONA A54 #18


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

Glad you have your pump working.  Would you have the part number of the motor brushes or the physical dimensions and a photo.  I would like to find a source for these parts.  Thanks.
--
Mark & Debbie Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

 

Good.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 7:07 PM Lior Keydar via Groups.Io <sharona246=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Dear Bill
Yes!!! it was the brushes. one of them was very bad. I am lucky that the previous owner bought the service kit for the pump. I took the motor out, replaced the brushes and now it is working perfect. 
The next step will be to replace the D pressure switch but it is now not urgent.

Thanks again for your help
Lior


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

Lior Keydar <sharona246@...>
 

Dear Bill
Yes!!! it was the brushes. one of them was very bad. I am lucky that the previous owner bought the service kit for the pump. I took the motor out, replaced the brushes and now it is working perfect. 
The next step will be to replace the D pressure switch but it is now not urgent.

Thanks again for your help
Lior


Re: Refueling from Deck

James Sterling
 

Bill, yeah you gotta love science of physics.  These are non-vented military style cans and I'm not blowing into anything anyway :).  These little cheapy siphons work well but they coil them up so tight the attached hose collapses easily and at least in my case was useless.  I suggest getting the shortest they sell (cheapest) and cut the hose off and replace with good clear PVC.  It won't kink or collapse.  Mine is a 7/8" unit so the replacement PVC hose of 3/4" press fit on the siphon valve without needing a clamp.  A delivery captain friend carries just the valve and separate clean hose in his suitcase when flying out to pick up a delivery boat. 


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

For me it is the other way sometimes the pumt dont stop running with a soft tuch on the switsh it works . 
It is the membran  from the pump 
The menbran is old and hard maybe you can change the menbran  

Good luck Elja 
SM 222


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 16.07.2019 um 13:57 schrieb Lior Keydar via Groups.Io <sharona246@...>:

Hello everybody

The A.M.F.A fresh water pump stop sometimes working. After I give a soft "kick" on the pressure switch, it start working again. It looks like that the switch sometime does not start after the pressure goes down and when it start, the pressure goes up slowly.
Does anyone has any advise? can you please write me what is the hi and low pressure that it should work? and how much I should pump the accumulator tank (and how to measure it) ? I think it could be a dust somewhere?

Thanks a lot 
Lior, SHARONA A54 #18


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

 

Yes, it could be the brushes on the motor. They are replaceable. 

You can open the Square D pressure switch by unscrewing the nut in the middle of the box. You will see two mechanical spring switches. If you see them closing when you "kick" it is the Square D Pressure switch...if they are already closed and the motor not running until you "kick," it is the brushes on the electric motor.

The above is most likely, but as I learned from my doctor, diagnosis is always much better in person.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 11:45 AM Lior Keydar via Groups.Io <sharona246=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Dear Bill and everybody

I have the A.M.F.A 88b. Is it possible that the problem is on motor? when the pressure drops, I see that there is 27 V on the engine but it does not work. When I kick it  a little bit it starts very slow and then it goes faster. Is it maybe the engine?

Thanks
Lior


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

Lior Keydar <sharona246@...>
 

Dear Bill and everybody

I have the A.M.F.A 88b. Is it possible that the problem is on motor? when the pressure drops, I see that there is 27 V on the engine but it does not work. When I kick it  a little bit it starts very slow and then it goes faster. Is it maybe the engine?

Thanks
Lior

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