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Re: Shore power contactor burnt out
Is this the box: If so, Mark is correct...and more importantly, failure of this relay means that you should not operate the generator until the relay is replaced, or the relay is replaced with a traditional 220 volt shore power-generator power selector switch is installed. The image above is from my Amel Book. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 7:31 AM Eamonn Washington <eamonn.washington@...> wrote: Thanks for the explanation Mark.
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Re: Super Maramu
amelforme
All SM 53's have a galley extractor fan. Be sure to remove the fiberglass Amel arrow insignia on the port side and place some aluminum gridding like what is used at the bottom of a screen door as a kick panel over the hole where the extractor vents. Rats love the smell of this area and can gain access to the interior of the boat through this area. A medium sized rat can squeeze through any hole marginally larger than their heads. I am aware of this from personal experience.
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On Jul 14, 2019, at 7:28 PM, jimbo ken <jimbokennedy@...> wrote:
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Re: Shore power contactor burnt out
Eamonn Washington
Thanks for the explanation Mark.
I rarely connect to shore power (650W solar panels), but I’ll try to replace it with an equivalent automatic switch. But out of interest, if you install a manual switch, did you place it in an easier to access location (like near the generator switch in the galley)? I might do that if it fails again. Thanks again -- Eamonn Washington Travel Bug Super Maramu #151 Currently in Trapani, Sicliy, Italy.
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Re: Shore power contactor burnt out
This LC1 D25008 is the switch that changes you automatically from shore/genset power. The wiring of this device can be somewhat confusing to the novice. If you are unsure, get an electrician.
The device needs to be replaced. It probably melted due to corrosion on the bare ends of the wires. This causes heat and then fire. You will need to trim back the wire cable to check for damaged wire.
I had two of these devices fail on Cream Puff and because of this I opted to replace it with a manual switch. Since we live on the boat full time we are either at anchor or on the hook. Changing over the manual switch is not a big deal. I installed one of these: https://www.bluesea.com/products/9019/AC_Rotary_Switch_-_OFF_%2B_2_Positions_240V_AC_65A
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us
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Shore power contactor burnt out
Eamonn Washington
Hi
yesterday I connected to 220V shore power, sockets worked as usual. Then I switched on the 220V battery charger and aircon. A few seconds later all 220V power stopped and there was a burning smell in the galley and the large port cockpit locker. No breakers gone on shore or the boat. No possibility to get shore power working again. The inverter still works but did not try the generator (due to an abundance of caution). Today I traced the shore power cable to the forward end of the large port cockpit locker, behind the insulation and removable end panel. There was a lot of ash, which was never there before (I clean every year). I opened the grey box that the mains cable terminated in, and there was evidence of melted electrical insulation and a lot of soot. Inside there was a “device” with the labels “Telemecanique” and “LC1 D25008”. I googled this and found it is a “contactor” (I never heard of this word before). My questions are: did this device fail due to age and simply needs to be replaced (along with damaged wires), or did it protect me from something badly wrong and there is another problem elsewhere (battery charger or aircon). I am waiting for an electrician, but maybe someone else has some advice? Thanks -- Eamonn Washington Travel Bug Super Maramu #151 Currently in Trapani, Sicily, Italy.
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Re: Super Maramu
SM Balu 222
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Am 15.07.2019 um 01:28 schrieb jimbo ken <jimbokennedy@outlook.com>:
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Re: Super Maramu
SM153 has one. Ian & Margaret S/V Loca Lola II SM153 US East Coast
On Jul 14, 2019, at 8:54 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:
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Re: Super Maramu
Thomas Kleman
For what it's worth- sm2k 422 has one.
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Re: Liftplan and measures Amel 54 for shipping document
Hi Carina,
Can you send me your Email address – I have some questions related to such a move My Email address: teun@... teun @ amelit dot net
Thanks
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
PORT VILA VANUATU July 15, 2019 10:53:36
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On Behalf Of CARINA HAMMARLUND via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 11:15 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Liftplan and measures Amel 54 for shipping document
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Re: Super Maramu
Stephen Davis
I own SM 72, and have one.
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On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:28 PM, jimbo ken <jimbokennedy@...> wrote:
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Super Maramu
jimbo ken
Seems a strange question to ask - but
Do all SM's have a extraction fan over the cooktop - I seem to see some pictures with them - and others it is hard to tell. Or was this an option that only some had? Jimbo
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Re: Hot water pressure and hot water accumulator tank
Thomas,
Although Bill correctly points out the expansion tank takes care of the increased pressure, it may be helpful for you to know how it does that so you understand that it's not extra water storage. Picture the expansion tank as a small tank having a rubber diaphragm across the middle (although there are some other designs). It has water on one side and air on the other. As your pump works it forces water into the water end and that forces the diaphragm to flex into the air side until it compresses the air to the pressure that turns off your pump. The next time you run water that pressurized air pushes back the diaphragm, the pump comes on and the cycle repeats. Hence you will notice the pump will not go off as soon as you close your faucet - it needs a couple of seconds to pressurize the system up to the shut off pressure. Now, when your hot water heater operates the hot water expands and needs a place to go or it will either open the pressure relief valve or burst the tank. That's where the expansion tank comes in. The expanded water flows back into the system and the expansion tank diaphragm will expand to accommodate it, keeping the pressure in the system below the level of your safety pressure relief valve on the hot water heater. Depending on what tank you buy, some are pre-pressurized and some have a schrader (bicycle) valve you use to add air. You'll want to keep the pressure about the same as the cut off pressure of your pump. You can play with it if your pump cycles too long after shutting off the faucet (too much pressure) or if it cycles exactly with the faucet (too little pressure, such that it's just acting as an additional tank with no expansion capability.) Hope that helps. Craig
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Re: Hot water pressure and hot water accumulator tank
Thomas, the purpose of the hot water accumulator tank is to take care of the increased pressure in the hot water system caused by heating the water. Heating water increases the pressure in a closed system and increased pressure can harm components. The accumulator does not increase the storage of hot water. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 11:13 AM Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote: Bill- thanks as always for the great info. So this tank is just an 8 liter reservoir for my basic 40 ? Does it only allow ingress under some kind of pressure ? If not it merely expands my basic 40 into a basic 48, I suppose the additional 20 pct capacity prevents my pressure relief valve from tripping ?
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Re: Hot water pressure and hot water accumulator tank
Thomas Kleman
Bill- thanks as always for the great info. So this tank is just an 8 liter reservoir for my basic 40 ? Does it only allow ingress under some kind of pressure ? If not it merely expands my basic 40 into a basic 48, I suppose the additional 20 pct capacity prevents my pressure relief valve from tripping ?
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Re: Spar painting in the Eastern Med
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Greg;
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We hauled out at Manoel island in Malta last year. Although I do not have first hand experience, I was told by a reliable source that they had very good painting contractors in Malta. Respectfully; Mohammad & Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
On Jul 14, 2019, at 9:33 AM, Gregory Shea via Groups.Io <gmshea=hotmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Hot water pressure and hot water accumulator tank
Thomas, On your SM the hot water pressure accumulator tank was originally located between the water heater and the port side of the engine room. Unfortunately, I have seen some owners remove this tank when it starts leaking. I assume they feel that there is no harm, but actually, they are over-pressurizing the hot water side of their freshwater system. This can cause many issues. If you no longer have the Amel-installed accumulator tank for the hot water system, you should install a 4-8 liter accumulator tank. It is normally connected to the hot water system via a hose from the freshwater manifold which is mounted on the aft bulkhead of the engine room. See photo below and note red circle on the hose. Also see an image of a page from my Amel Book, attached. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 9:20 AM Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote: Bill- I definitely have no accumulator tank in the circuit. I just thought all these years that the basic 40 had a relief valve set too low (7 bar ?). These relief valves tend to last me 1-2 years (I buy them in bulk). Can you send me a pic of the correct setup ? I've never seen one.
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Re: Hot water pressure
Tom has identified his problem - no expansion tank, but I think this topic started with Mawgan's problem of no hot water flowing after he installed a new tank.
Mawgan, how did that work out?
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Re: Spar painting in the Eastern Med
Hi Greg,
Check out Agmar Marine's Partheni Boatyard next to the airport on the north end of Leros. Very skilled workers and, although I didn't have painting done, I did see their work and it was exceptional. It was several years ago I was there, but have heard from others that's it's still good. Cheers, Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris
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Re: Hot water pressure
Thomas Kleman
Bill- I definitely have no accumulator tank in the circuit. I just thought all these years that the basic 40 had a relief valve set too low (7 bar ?). These relief valves tend to last me 1-2 years (I buy them in bulk). Can you send me a pic of the correct setup ? I've never seen one.
Thomas Kleman SM2K 422 L'ORIENT Panama
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Re: Liftplan and measures Amel 54 for shipping document
SevenStar is perfect for this. I am sending you a private message. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 8:23 AM CARINA HAMMARLUND <syultimo@...> wrote: Hi Bill,
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