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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Here is a link to the photos:  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/search/photos?query=jib%20sheet%20remote#zax/albums_831107209

Those are elegant and stainless is great.  The only modification I would consider is indexing the screws so that the "ribs" are offset from each other, thus allowing the line to "weave" thru the pulley, like an Anderson winch. 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Larger stove?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Duane,

The eno has two  circular burners in the oven,one top to grill, one bottom for the oven.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 28 December 2018 at 09:01 "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Arno,


Where is the oven burner in the Force 10?

Maybe all marine stoves have the burner in the back, but it leads to very uneven heat.

Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

 


 


 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

I searched and found this: 

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of ladyannila
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:24 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Jib sheet traveller remote control





Please find pictures of our new stainless steal jib sheet travaller disks in
the photo section in album Jib Sheet Traveller Remote Control.

Instead of buying new in aluminium from Amel. We made a drawing and went to
a mechanical workshop that made similar plates in stainless steal for us.

This will hopefully keep on working for the rest of our sailing life.

Fair Winds
Annsofie & Jonas
S/Y Lady Annila, SM #232

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

I don't want to step on any toes here, but I can't imagine how the pictured pulley could work.  The ribs in the Amel pulley are meant to grip the jib-car positioning line so that it doesn't slide in the pulley. Just like an Anderson winch.   You are depending on the "grip" of the rope to prevent the jib car from moving under load from the jib sheet.  Just my opinion.  

Isn't Amel going to provide these any more?  I purchased a set a couple of years ago from them.   It also seemed that somewhere back in time on this forum someone posted about having manufactured properly ribbed pulleys from stainless steel. 

Sincerely, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona 
Amel SM 2000 # 335
One the hard at Puerto Del Rey, Puerto Rico

Re: Larger stove?

Duane Siegfri
 

Arno,

Where is the oven burner in the Force 10?

Maybe all marine stoves have the burner in the back, but it leads to very uneven heat.

Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

Mike Ondra
 

Toe Pulley Seekers,

I have received Bernard’s pulleys and they appear very well machined and of what looks to be a superb material (PETP). This instruction sheets also look well done and complete. However the slot/groove for the line is smooth, not ribbed or toothed, and the PETP is slippery. Has anyone installed these and how well do they work? It would seem that line size and composition must be very specific to this slot/groove.

Mike Ondra

ALETES SM#240

St. Augustine, FL

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:02 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

 

 

Thanks J-L and Alan.  I’m ordering, too.

Kent

S/V Kristy


On Oct 16, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Kelly Ran naryllek@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Alan! 

Our prototype didn't work out, so we will order from Bernard!

 

Kelly + Ryan

SM233 Iteration

Boston

 

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 21:10 James Cromie jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alan - Thanks for sharing this.  There are many of us who have been desiring to replace our cracked sheaves, and this is a great and affordable alternative.  I am going to give it a try as well.  

 

Thank you again everyone - This forum is full of gems!

 

-James

SV Soteria 

SM2K  347

On Oct 16, 2018, at 5:44 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Courtesy of Jean-Luc Mertz, I have been in touch with Bernard Ancelle in France.

 

He is making a one piece toe pulley in PETP (polyester). They will be available for purchase in a few weeks

 

Bernard says :

The pulley is in one piece and thicker than original aluminum Amel one
for strength (but the core of the pulley has the same thickness as the
original one to be easily fitted).
The material is PETP which resists well to a lot of chemical products
(particularly sea water), does not absorb water, resists to UV and has
good mechanical properties.
The combination of plastics device and inox (stainless) screws would not be
subjected to corrosion as the previous one.

Bernard can supply the pulley including 3 x  M6 316L stainless bolts for 60 Euros plus postage.

 

You can order directly from Bernard by email :  ba at ancelle dot net

 

i have ordered two pulleys today.

 

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437

Noumea...leaving for Opua tomorrow !

 

 

 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

Mike Ondra
 

Toe Pulley Seekers,

I have received Bernard’s pulleys and they appear very well machined and of what looks to be a superb material (PETP). This instruction sheets also look well done and complete. However the slot/groove for the line is smooth, not ribbed or toothed, and the PETP is slippery. Has anyone installed these and how well do they work? It would seem that line size and composition must be very specific to this slot/groove.

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:02 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

 

 

Thanks J-L and Alan.  I’m ordering, too.

Kent

S/V Kristy


On Oct 16, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Kelly Ran naryllek@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Alan! 

Our prototype didn't work out, so we will order from Bernard!

 

Kelly + Ryan

SM233 Iteration

Boston

 

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 21:10 James Cromie jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alan - Thanks for sharing this.  There are many of us who have been desiring to replace our cracked sheaves, and this is a great and affordable alternative.  I am going to give it a try as well.  

 

Thank you again everyone - This forum is full of gems!

 

-James

SV Soteria 

SM2K  347

On Oct 16, 2018, at 5:44 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Courtesy of Jean-Luc Mertz, I have been in touch with Bernard Ancelle in France.

 

He is making a one piece toe pulley in PETP (polyester). They will be available for purchase in a few weeks

 

Bernard says :

The pulley is in one piece and thicker than original aluminum Amel one
for strength (but the core of the pulley has the same thickness as the
original one to be easily fitted).
The material is PETP which resists well to a lot of chemical products
(particularly sea water), does not absorb water, resists to UV and has
good mechanical properties.
The combination of plastics device and inox (stainless) screws would not be
subjected to corrosion as the previous one.

Bernard can supply the pulley including 3 x  M6 316L stainless bolts for 60 Euros plus postage.

 

You can order directly from Bernard by email :  ba at ancelle dot net

 

i have ordered two pulleys today.

 

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437

Noumea...leaving for Opua tomorrow !

 

 

 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Larger stove?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Paul,
The one we got had an oven with a top and bottom gas element. The bottom for oven  the top for grill  so we have a grill function within the oven
 Same as our original. We considered a four burner but realised we seldom wanted more than two burners. I really like the amel gimbal set up and it wasnt hard to transfer it.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean pearl

On 28/12/2018 00:29, "paul.cooper74@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks for that info, Danny.  Did you get it with or without the grill?  We are concerned the grill reduces the oven volume too much.

Paul
SM238 Maracuya

Re: Larger stove?

paul.cooper74@...
 

Thanks for that info, Danny.  Did you get it with or without the grill?  We are concerned the grill reduces the oven volume too much.
Paul
SM238 Maracuya

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Christmas

Cathy & Guillaume
 

Merry Christmas to all from Malta, and thanks Dimitri K for posting our photo from La Valette on the Facebook site!!!

Cathy & Guillaume
s/v Carpathia III
SM2K #293

Re: SM Mizzen Furling System Gearbox Overhaul

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Thank you Bill for your kind thoughts.  It all started when I was seeking the information from others that you have so generously provided down thru the years, formalizing it a bit etc.   Various generous people shared and kept me going in the early years of my SM ownership. 

As to the status of the Liahona vs hurricanes Irma and Maria encounters (SM #335).  It took 16 weeks for repairs to be effected by Island Marine, Inc. of Puerto Del Rey, Puerto Rico.  The company is owned and very actively run by Ken Towne and Rick Karolun.  These guys have long and expert experience in boat building (I understand they built a couple of racing yachts for Roy Disney in the early years of vacuum bagging etc) and have been doing major repairs to boats for 25 years or so in Puerto Del Rey.  During the 16 weeks of the repairs I was on sight for 10 of those weeks and had a photographer document daily work progress to the tune of about 100 photos per day for the weeks I couldn't be there.   Repairs were completed July 4th 2018.

The major problem with damage to the rub-rail is reconstructing that complex structure in a structurally sound way.  Island Marine was up to the challenge.  They used various strips of "S" glass (structural fiberglass).  This stuff is green colored, must be made in high pressure/heat molds and is stronger than steel.  They made molds from undamaged rub-rail and included the structural glass into the laminates as they rebuilt the rub-rail.  There are new laminates across the hull to deck joint  where the angle of the hull and deck flange were ground down by abrasion against concrete.  No structural damage there, just abrasion, and the repair was so expertly done that I believe that with the S glass, the repaired part is stronger than original.  There was about 10 ft of rub-rail repaired on the starboard side and about 4 feet on the port side.  The hull abrasions/perforations  were all ground to sound glass and laid up with a schedule of glass equalling the original.  Damaged toe-rail cleats were replaced with matching new ones and the toe-rail areas damaged (minor) were repaired.  The boat was prepped and painted in 4 colors of AwlCraft to match the original: 1- matching beige on the toe-rail all the hatches perimeters, 2 - matching brown on the rub-rail, 3 - hull matching off white, and 4 - new boot stripe in "Desert Sand" (like yours Bill).  In addition we changed the position of the bootstripe.  We left it at the same level in the bow but raised it 4 inches in the stern to give a more "level on her lines" appearance.  New rubber "scupper" extrusion was available from Amel and that was a challenge but successfully replaced. All the damage to the lifelines was so expertly repaired that it is un-believable to me.  While she was undergoing repairs I did a lot of work on the boat, overhauling various systems, (i.e. that is when I tackled the mizzen furling gearbox), cleaning every locker, shimming the genset so that the tray under the Onan drains inboard rather than collecting oil and water outboard, doing corrosion control painting here and there, strip and re-epoxy prime the keel, major overhaul of the bow thruster, overhaul of the main furling and outhaul gearboxes, etc., etc.   Bottom paint is pending until a few days prior to re-launch.

In short, Liahona is in better cosmetic and mechanical condition than she has been since almost when I took delivery of her July 2001.  I am awaiting a new stern bumper for her that Amel is shipping right after Christmas, then the transformation will be complete. 

My insurance company was good to work with, paid promptly upon presentation of the various receipts etc.  I was out the use of the boat for a 15 months, travel to and from PR 3 times plus room and board etc, but other than that I have a sound and beautiful boat again.   She comes out of hurricane storage 20 Jan and we will be enjoying her again. 

All the best to you and thanks for all you have done for the Amel owners. 

Merry Christmas, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 #335




Re: Wanted Amel Sharki

Willem Kroes
 

Hi Bastian,

A friend of mine is selling his1986 Sharki.. The owner is an engineer by profession and he and his wife decided last summer to put the boat for sale, primarily because of their age. This Sharki is very well maintained with retractable bow thruster and furling Genua, both from Amel and a new engine in 2013.
The owner and I (also an Amel owner) made an arrangement, a few days ago that I will help him with the advertising and the paperwork involved with the selling proces.

We just made a brochure of the boat with inventory and pictures and I will be glad to send it to you.

My e-mail address: kavanga@...
My phone number: +31 6 47 96 35 71

So please feel free to contact me.

Best regards,

Willem Kroes

SM #351 KAVANGA

Wanted Amel Sharki

Bastian
 

Hi guys,


I am looking for a Sharki. If anyone is currently cruising in a decently maintained one and would like to sell it, please get in touch.


I also tried to find out the differences between the built models 1979 - 1987 but even Amel does not have any documentation anymore.


Happy cruising and a good new year,


Bastian

   

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Christmas in Barbados

John Clark
 

Hi Graham,. We are in Carriacou.  Might have a few days off after New Year, perfect for a day sail...or motor to Barbados.  Will let you know.   Merry Christmas to you and your family.

John 
SV Annie SM 37
Tyrell Bay

On Mon, Dec 24, 2018, 5:20 PM Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

HI All,

If any of you are passing through Barbados between Christmas and 6
January 2019, we will be at anchor in the bay just south of the entrance
to Port St Charles

Please give us a call. 

Season's greetings

Graham & Annie Cresswell

SV Jamesby
Maramu 46
French flagged. 

MMSI: 329 015 210
or email graham@...

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Christmas

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

And to you.
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl


On 25/12/2018 07:21, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Feliz Navidad

 

From Mark and Cindy in Colombia

Cream Puff

 


Christmas in Barbados

Graham Cresswell <grahamjcresswell@...>
 

HI All,

If any of you are passing through Barbados between Christmas and 6
January 2019, we will be at anchor in the bay just south of the entrance
to Port St Charles

Please give us a call. 

Season's greetings

Graham & Annie Cresswell

SV Jamesby
Maramu 46
French flagged. 

MMSI: 329 015 210
or email graham@...

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Christmas

Courtney Gorman
 

Merry Christmas to all 
May you’re winds be fair (and from the beam)
May you’re seas be calm
May you’re anchorages be beautiful and sandy bottomed 
And may you and yours be happy and healthy 
And to all a good night 
sv trippin 


On Dec 24, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Danny Simms sailorman.ds@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi All Amelians where ever you are in the world. Wishing you all the best for Christmas and the New Year. We look forward to another year sharing experiences and adventures with you, the Amel family
Danny and Yvonne
Ocean Pearl
SM 299

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Larger stove?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi

We replaced our two burner eno with another the same. We removed the amel gimbal mod from the old stove and attached it to the new. Fixed the width issue and I like the functionality and looks of it too.

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 24 December 2018 at 12:29 "arno.luijten@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We just replaced the Eno on our A54 with an Force 10 4-burner. We had the same problem that the width of the cavity is about 60 cm and marine stoves seem to hover aroud the 50 cm wide mark. The Force 10 is 52, so I placed two filler pieces of wood left and right. The original stove was modified by Amel from the looks of it to have the gimbal points at the burner level instead of at the level of the top of the oven. I don’t know why they did that. I could not find a gimballed stove aroud 60 cm wide, Force10 has a wider one but that is about 70 cm wide.
I’ve looked for other stoves as well. There is GN-Espace, a UK brand, very nice, very expensive. Most other stuff I could find is pretty poor from build quality, even Force 10 is not what they used to be since they were bought by Eno (still better then Eno though). But at least they still carry the clever mechnism for the oven door and they are reasonally easy to clean.
In the end you pay crazy money for a stove that has much less build quality then a domestic stove. Things like self cleaning oven walls and so are completely unknown in sailboat stoves.

Good luck hunting for your new stove!

Arno Luijten
Luna,
A54-121


 


 

Christmas

Danny Simms
 

Hi All Amelians where ever you are in the world. Wishing you all the best for Christmas and the New Year. We look forward to another year sharing experiences and adventures with you, the Amel family
Danny and Yvonne
Ocean Pearl
SM 299

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Christmas

Mark Erdos
 

Feliz Navidad

 

From Mark and Cindy in Colombia

Cream Puff