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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] St. Martin

Teun BAAS
 

OCTENDER – but is only build to order.

 

Best Regards Teun

AMELIT A54 # 128

Feb 05, 2019   09:37:18

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 8:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] St. Martin

 

 

Hi to the group, 

I am on the way to St.Martin and want to stay there for some days, buying  perhaps Alu RIB and Motor with more power . I have now a Zodiac fastroller 3,10 m and Mercury 6HP .

Any  recommendations where and what to buy. Taxfree ?

Where to stay in which marina ?

Thank you very much Wolfgang SY Elise AMEL 54 #162

 

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] St. Martin

Wolfgang Weber
 

Hi to the group, 
I am on the way to St.Martin and want to stay there for some days, buying  perhaps Alu RIB and Motor with more power . I have now a Zodiac fastroller 3,10 m and Mercury 6HP .
Any  recommendations where and what to buy. Taxfree ?
Where to stay in which marina ?
Thank you very much Wolfgang SY Elise AMEL 54 #162

For information  Amel 54 With VW TDI I have now the Diagnostic software VCDS and HEX-V2 Adaptor on the boat

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Any Amel owners who have sailed to Chile from Panama?

John Clark
 

Don't know about Chile but we jutst passed you leaving the Turks and Caicos.  We were off in the distance to your east.  Spotted your boat and thought she was an Amel...my eye is still good I see.

Regards,  John
SV Annie SM 37
Transiting the Bahamas.

On Sun, Jan 27, 2019, 2:25 PM jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Hello everyone - 

I'm interested to know if there are any Amel owners who have sailed to Southern Chile from Panama along the Pacific coast of South America.  If so, I'd love to hear about your experience.   


Many thanks!

-James

Soteria

#347

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

Alan Leslie
 

Thanks Bill
Excellent !
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Wheel lock for wind vane

carcodespam@...
 

That are the pictures I have.

Gerhard
Sharki #60


Re: Wheel lock for wind vane

sbmesasailor
 

Hi Miles,

The helm lock on my 1982 Maramu is not a complicated affair.  There is a knurled, round handle imbedded in a threaded rod that threads into a slot at the bottom of the helm hub.  The threaded rod pushes against a clutch-like pad that arrests the helm shaft.  If you have all the parts it's pretty easy to re-install.

Sorry, don't have pictures.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu 121

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

greatketch@...
 

Alan,

The Genoa cars on our SM were made by Antel.

I assume when you talk about “parts missing underneath”, you are referring to the plastic slide bearings that separate the metal parts of the car from the track.

We source them this past summer from Annapolis Performance Sailing, an Antel dealer. It took a lot of back and forth between Antel USA and Italy before they were sure of the part number, but these were still in stock. They are not, however in the standard catalog.

We received part number ATLG3040A with was a pair of “Antel Car Track Slider Inserts”. Cost less than $20 for a pair. The unusual dimension for these is the length. The cars made for Amel are about 1/3 longer than the standard models. The other dimensions are standard.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Black Point Settlement, Exumas, Bahamas

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santorin, before purchase questions

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Simon,

the first Santorins were equipped with aluminum casing C-drives, the Super Maramus as well.
This aluminum version showed some failures and AMEL changed it for cast iron casings.
Some recalls were made, mainly on Super Maramus as they had higher powered engines than Santorins, which made the aluminum casing a bit critical.. Some aluminum casing C-drives have behaved well so far, probably the case of the Santorin you visited. 
You must indeed have this C-drive inspected for any oil leak. A crack in the GRP enveloppe of the lower C-drive may not be too bad as long as no oil is coming out. These cracks should be sanded down the the sound material and rebuilt.

Good luck in your purchase.

Olivier



On Monday, February 4, 2019, 1:35:34 AM GMT+1, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Simon,

 

Depending on your location (you don’t specify) there are a couple of people who could survey the boat who have unprecedented knowledge of all things Amel. This is my advice to you.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 7:11 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santorin, before purchase questions

 

 

Hello

I have been looking at an Amel Santorin, hull no 11, built 1990. When visiting the boat a few thing came up that I feel need to be investigated further. Perhaps I can get some help here and hear what your thoughts and opinion are about the pictures., https://www.dropbox.com/sh/egdes22h26j0p37/AABPpd0sTDCdkI3RVInHc6XTa?dl=0

 

1. When looking at the upper angle gear for the C-drive (in the engine room) I noticed that it looks different from other Santorin boats that I have looked at. This one is built a bit earlier than the other ones I have looked at so perhaps Amel did things a bit different on the early Santorins. Also the under water part of the C-drive looks like it's different. The oil plug is located on port side instead of the aft part just below the propeller. Does anyone know more about these differences and if this earlier construction is just as good as the later one?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tiib8y6yoj6rtwy/DSC08718.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3apy3idmg2fqgtn/IMG_2725.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/61d2ai7j6s3o5zg/IMG_2730.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hko9rxsufb10mbs/LRG_DSC08755.JPG?dl=0

 

2. When looking at the aft part of the C-drive, just above and below where the propeller shaft enters the gear there is a crack, it's clearly visible in the pictures. Is this reason to be alarmed or would a normal repair of the glass fibre be enough as a repair? Any thoughts regarding this? There was no oil leaking from this crack but I assume there must be some metall case inside the glass fibre that contains the oil and the gears.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xijskvqqlhc28t0/IMG_0981.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yy8tvl570sjsxrg/IMG_0982.JPG?dl=0

 

3. One of the hinges for the rudder is missing a screw. I can see that there is like a nylon bushing inside and that the screw is supposed to thread into this bushing. This I have not seen on the other Santorin I looked at. I can also feel that there is som play in the rudder when moving it sideways. Is this to consider normal?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2sqwpiol2filuhe/LRG_DSC08762.JPG?dl=0



4. Forward, where the anchor rests there is a crack running across the deck and also down into the drain "track" on the sides. I have seen this on some other photos online so it seems like other boats also have this problem. What is causing this? Has the anchor been pulled up too hard or is there some weakness in the forward section? Does anyone know more about this and how it's best repaired?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zohnqyjn1jp6w5o/LRG_DSC08675.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwk29fk7torcp1f/IMG_2690.JPG?dl=0

 

Best regards

Simon

Re: Santorin, before purchase questions

Ian Park
 

Hi Simon,
It looks like a few things changed from the earliest Santorins..
The whole C drive is different - inside and out. I may well be wrong, but it seems that they may have put the SM C drive into the Santorin; mine looks just like the SM. I don't know if the later Maramus had this type of C drive?
Again the bow roller has been modified on later models. The main chain channel seems to have been moved more to starboard on my boat, the forestay chain plate now being right on the centre line, and an extra bow roller attached to port of the forestay and bolted on to the main bow roller. The fibre glass bow profile is now no longer off-set. The cracks will be stress cracks from the boat sheering at anchor or on a mooring caused by the pressure on the S/S side plates of the bow roller. I'm pretty sure this is just cosmetic (I'm not a surveyor!).
Again, the rudder hinges look different.

I'd be interested in the evolution of the Santorin looking at your photos. The Maramu stopped production when the Super Maramu arrived, but the Santorin started production a few years after the SM. Although the hull/deck/interior design is so similar to the SM perhaps some of the mechanical parts were initially taken from the similar sized Maramu? Then at some early stage it was found that SM parts could be made to fit the Santorin, streamlining production costs??....

Bottom line though, as Mark said, don't pursue further without a survey from a someone who really knows Amels - an older boat is always going to need available spare parts.

Good luck

Ian
Ocean Hobo - SM96

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Digest Number 6024

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

hola Jacob,if looking for reading material, the web can give you loads of return on experience - look out for 'sailing ketch rig ...' & reach sites like oceansail +otherwise basics are respected, let her breathe, sail with the sheets Matching the weather, & use & abuse that mizzen sail, perfect for balance in all kinds of seas & safety in tricky situations mooring & port handling.Double genoa (dear to Mr Amel), genoa & jibs will take through most types of weather we encounter, just time to set up or lower to be well evaluated (mostly in Med' when that black bar is rushing towards you on the water).I found out that I sail mostly using inertia of boat now when running or beating on our 'Big Mama', even when drifting waiting for breeze to pick up, the mizzen stays up well lashed to avoid bashing around with waves action.use, abuse & enjoy
christan alby - Désirade VIII - Maramu 116 - now in west mediterranean
Christian Alby - France home fixe +33 (0)5 34 39 06 02 home Internet +33 (0)9 60 37 22 72 mobile +33 (0)6 42 69 07 80

Le ‎vendredi‎ ‎25‎ ‎janvier‎ ‎2019‎ ‎18‎:‎13‎:‎36‎ ‎CET, jacob jacob.champness@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> a écrit :

 

Can anyone recommend a book or resource on sail trim on a ketch that they’ve found useful?  Our ‘79 Maramu #42 predates all those fancy articulating whisker poles and electric furlers, so nothing too Amel-specific.
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 7:01 AM <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

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Digest #6024 1a Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally by "Mark Pitt" markmpitt 1b Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally by "Kimberlite" kimberlite1212 1c Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally by isaac_02906 2a Re: Batteries by alan_leslie_sv_elyse


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Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:13 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Mark Pitt" markmpitt
Bill,

I am interested.

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM #419, Martinique
On Jan 24, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Bill Rouse @billrouse [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



Update

I have received some level of interest from 15 owners. I was hoping for more interest in a Caribbean Rally. Is there anyone else? I am not aking for a commitment, just Interest. Here is the list that I have so far:
Arno Luijten SV Luna A54-121
Miles Bidwell Ladybug SM 216
Kent & Iris Robertson Kristy SM 243
John Clark Annie SM 37
Pat & Diane SM Shenanigans SM 123
Alex Paquin SIMPATICO Maramu #94
Colin Streeter Island Pearl SM 332
Donald Patterson ?Mango?
Kim and Chuck Joy SM 388
Paul and Kerstin Kerpa SM 259
Gary Wells Adagio SM 209
Duane & Peg Wanderer, SM 477
Derick Gates Brava SM 400

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
My Calendar



On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 5:56 PM derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
I am on Brava in Le Marin, Martinique getting some maintenance done. By mid March I expect to start traveling North to Antigua, and by late April set off for the Azores and then Gibraltar. The rally sounds like a great idea.

Derick Gates
SM2K #400 Brava

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Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:33 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Kimberlite" kimberlite1212
Hi Bill.

You forgot me.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 11:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Update

I have received some level of interest from 15 owners. I was hoping for more interest in a Caribbean Rally. Is there anyone else? I am not aking for a commitment, just Interest. Here is the list that I have so far:

Arno Luijten

SV Luna A54-121

Miles Bidwell

Ladybug SM 216

Kent & Iris Robertson

Kristy SM 243

John Clark

Annie SM 37

Pat & Diane

SM Shenanigans SM 123

Alex Paquin

SIMPATICO Maramu #94

Colin Streeter

Island Pearl SM 332

Donald Patterson

?Mango?

Kim and Chuck

Joy SM 388

Paul and Kerstin

Kerpa SM 259

Gary Wells

Adagio SM 209

Duane & Peg

Wanderer, SM 477

Derick Gates

Brava SM 400

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy <https://theamelschool.blogspot.com/p/texas-navy.html>
Commander Emeritus
<http://www.amelschool.com/> Amel School <http://www.amelschool.com/> http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

<https://theamelschool.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html> My Calendar

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On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 5:56 PM derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

I am on Brava in Le Marin, Martinique getting some maintenance done. By mid March I expect to start traveling North to Antigua, and by late April set off for the Azores and then Gibraltar. The rally sounds like a great idea.

Derick Gates
SM2K #400 Brava

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Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:38 am (PST) . Posted by:

isaac_02906
Hi Bill,


Please add Mark, Karen, Miles and Lucy on Lulu SM 391.


Mark Isaac
Lulu, SM 391
PDR, Fajardo, Puerto Rico

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Re: Batteries

Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:06 am (PST) . Posted by:

alan_leslie_sv_elyse
Hi Kent

The first voltages you mentioned .... 28v abs, 26.4v float, 29.4v equalize..
sound pretty much the norm to me for standard flooded deep cycle batteries
29v Abs, 27v float, and 31v equalize

seems a bit extreme ....that's more than what most AGM manufacturers recommend for batteries that have a higher acceptance rate than yours.


Are you sure your battery monitor is reading / setup correctly for these batteries? As Mark said..Peukert constant set correctly?


My understanding is that lead acid batteries only need to be "equalised" in the case of sulphation caused by repeated deep discharges followed by incomplete charging.


It sounds like you are charging your batteries fully and limiting discharge, you shouldn't have a problem....maybe it's the meter that has the problem..?


Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Opua, New Zealand...for now


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

Alan Leslie
 

We have an issue with one of the genoa cars on Elyse. It would appear to have lost some bits underneath.
Can someone identify for me exactly what car it is Make / Model on an SM2000?

Thanks for any advice

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

smiles bernard
 

Hi there Christian

Many thanks for this. 
It took me a while to understand what both you and Danny were explaining so clearly - push the stanchion towards the middle of the boat. Makes total sense but for a while I was thinking fwd or aft as it’s he first boat I’ve had with sensibly mounted stanchions on the side of the toe rail. 
I’ll have a go!
Sadly my drill has just packed up so sounds like I’ll be needing a new impact driver  before I start this project. The metal on one of the cars that holds the (shackle and block )has worn a little so I might need to invest in new cars.

The “lifting wheels” on my mizzen sheet track have broken so I’d be interested in your  washer fix. I’ve had the cars off (nice and easy on the mizzen traveller at least!) but I couldn’t figure out how to release the lifting pin that the ‘lifting wheel’ is attached to. Is there a trick?

Many thanks for your help

Miles





On 3 Feb 2019, at 06:28, christian alby calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

hello Miles
unfortunately easiest way seems to be removing screws from stanchion base & move it aside to allow car to slide out & back in once replaced (mine had a broken 'lifting-wheel' replaced by home made washer); Impact screwdriver became a permanent fixture in the tool-shed on our 1982 Maramu.
I did not date cut off the end of the track, neither tried my luck on the screws holding the tracks on deck. Shy ?
Best of hammering

christian alby - Désirade VIII - Maramu 116 - now in Canet en Roussillon

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Le ‎dimanche‎ ‎3‎ ‎février‎ ‎2019‎ ‎01‎:‎44‎:‎36‎ ‎CET, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> a écrit :


 


Hi Danny

Sorry I somehow missed your reply on this till today. 
Many thanks indeed for the info 

on our Maramu it sounds similar to the SM - either the stanchion has to move somehow or the track!

It seems a little short sighted of Amel to not allow the Genoa cars off for replacement or repairs etc. A slightly shorter teach and a stopper bolt would have been ideal. 

I’ve noticed a little wear on our port Genoa car and so I’d ideally like to replace both but this sounds like one of those big small jobs !

If anyone else has any experience of this also it’d be great to hear. 

Many thanks again

Miles 
Maramu 162

 

On 2 Jan 2019, at 14:45, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Miles,

assuming your Maramu is same as the SM in this respect. I took the screws out of the stanchion base and pushed it sideways to allow the car to slide off. However it was a challenge to get one of the screws out. Others have cut the sides of a short section the track off to allow the car to come off. This method assumes you don't need the full length.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 02 January 2019 at 14:23 "smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Happy new year !
We recently arrived in Barbados after fast crossing from Cape Verde’s
The boat was great but I noticed a few things that I now need to address
The port Genoa sheet car is worn at the point the shackles attaches.

I think it’s an original mid 80s a goiot car. It has a stylised seagull shaped ensign.

Does anyone know a suitable replacement for a vintage Maramu car and also how to remove / reinstall? I presume then come off the track fwd end. There is a stopper bolt head at the fwd end of the track so I presume I remove this and just slide the car off the track.. Space for removal of the car looks really tight with a stanchion base though.
If anyone has replaced their sheet cars any info would be very much appreciated

All the very best

Miles



 


 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santorin, before purchase questions

Mark Erdos
 

Simon,

 

Depending on your location (you don’t specify) there are a couple of people who could survey the boat who have unprecedented knowledge of all things Amel. This is my advice to you.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 7:11 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santorin, before purchase questions

 

 

Hello

I have been looking at an Amel Santorin, hull no 11, built 1990. When visiting the boat a few thing came up that I feel need to be investigated further. Perhaps I can get some help here and hear what your thoughts and opinion are about the pictures., https://www.dropbox.com/sh/egdes22h26j0p37/AABPpd0sTDCdkI3RVInHc6XTa?dl=0

 

1. When looking at the upper angle gear for the C-drive (in the engine room) I noticed that it looks different from other Santorin boats that I have looked at. This one is built a bit earlier than the other ones I have looked at so perhaps Amel did things a bit different on the early Santorins. Also the under water part of the C-drive looks like it's different. The oil plug is located on port side instead of the aft part just below the propeller. Does anyone know more about these differences and if this earlier construction is just as good as the later one?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tiib8y6yoj6rtwy/DSC08718.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3apy3idmg2fqgtn/IMG_2725.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/61d2ai7j6s3o5zg/IMG_2730.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hko9rxsufb10mbs/LRG_DSC08755.JPG?dl=0

 

2. When looking at the aft part of the C-drive, just above and below where the propeller shaft enters the gear there is a crack, it's clearly visible in the pictures. Is this reason to be alarmed or would a normal repair of the glass fibre be enough as a repair? Any thoughts regarding this? There was no oil leaking from this crack but I assume there must be some metall case inside the glass fibre that contains the oil and the gears.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xijskvqqlhc28t0/IMG_0981.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yy8tvl570sjsxrg/IMG_0982.JPG?dl=0

 

3. One of the hinges for the rudder is missing a screw. I can see that there is like a nylon bushing inside and that the screw is supposed to thread into this bushing. This I have not seen on the other Santorin I looked at. I can also feel that there is som play in the rudder when moving it sideways. Is this to consider normal?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2sqwpiol2filuhe/LRG_DSC08762.JPG?dl=0



4. Forward, where the anchor rests there is a crack running across the deck and also down into the drain "track" on the sides. I have seen this on some other photos online so it seems like other boats also have this problem. What is causing this? Has the anchor been pulled up too hard or is there some weakness in the forward section? Does anyone know more about this and how it's best repaired?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zohnqyjn1jp6w5o/LRG_DSC08675.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwk29fk7torcp1f/IMG_2690.JPG?dl=0

 

Best regards

Simon

Santorin, before purchase questions

s90.simon@...
 

Hello

I have been looking at an Amel Santorin, hull no 11, built 1990. When visiting the boat a few thing came up that I feel need to be investigated further. Perhaps I can get some help here and hear what your thoughts and opinion are about the pictures., https://www.dropbox.com/sh/egdes22h26j0p37/AABPpd0sTDCdkI3RVInHc6XTa?dl=0


1. When looking at the upper angle gear for the C-drive (in the engine room) I noticed that it looks different from other Santorin boats that I have looked at. This one is built a bit earlier than the other ones I have looked at so perhaps Amel did things a bit different on the early Santorins. Also the under water part of the C-drive looks like it's different. The oil plug is located on port side instead of the aft part just below the propeller. Does anyone know more about these differences and if this earlier construction is just as good as the later one?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tiib8y6yoj6rtwy/DSC08718.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3apy3idmg2fqgtn/IMG_2725.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/61d2ai7j6s3o5zg/IMG_2730.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hko9rxsufb10mbs/LRG_DSC08755.JPG?dl=0


2. When looking at the aft part of the C-drive, just above and below where the propeller shaft enters the gear there is a crack, it's clearly visible in the pictures. Is this reason to be alarmed or would a normal repair of the glass fibre be enough as a repair? Any thoughts regarding this? There was no oil leaking from this crack but I assume there must be some metall case inside the glass fibre that contains the oil and the gears.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xijskvqqlhc28t0/IMG_0981.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yy8tvl570sjsxrg/IMG_0982.JPG?dl=0


3. One of the hinges for the rudder is missing a screw. I can see that there is like a nylon bushing inside and that the screw is supposed to thread into this bushing. This I have not seen on the other Santorin I looked at. I can also feel that there is som play in the rudder when moving it sideways. Is this to consider normal?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2sqwpiol2filuhe/LRG_DSC08762.JPG?dl=0


4. Forward, where the anchor rests there is a crack running across the deck and also down into the drain "track" on the sides. I have seen this on some other photos online so it seems like other boats also have this problem. What is causing this? Has the anchor been pulled up too hard or is there some weakness in the forward section? Does anyone know more about this and how it's best repaired?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zohnqyjn1jp6w5o/LRG_DSC08675.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwk29fk7torcp1f/IMG_2690.JPG?dl=0


Best regards

Simon

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Painting boat S of Hurricane belt

karkauai
 

That was supposed to be “pinch”, Joel.  In any event, your pats are always appreciated.
Kent


On Feb 3, 2019, at 1:28 PM, jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hiya Kent. Punch? Nah. More like a love pat.

 

When do you anticipate departure from Fort Lauderdale?

 

Hug for Iris.

 

All The Best, Joel

 

          JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                   Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 3:49 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Painting boat S of Hurricane belt

 

 

Thank you all for your replies. Sounds like Trinidad is the place to go. Steve, I do like the colors you chose and will probably mimic that on Kristy. Glad to hear the new nonskid is good, I was concerned about that.

Joel, you are always there to punch me when I’m about to do something I shouldn’t. I’ll make it a point to be there while the work is being done.

Again, thanks to you all!
Kent & Iris
SM 243
Kristy
Still in Hotel California (Ft Lauderdale) where you can check out but you can never leave. Ready to head for T & C next weather window.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Painting boat S of Hurricane belt

amelforme
 

Hiya Kent. Punch? Nah. More like a love pat.

 

When do you anticipate departure from Fort Lauderdale?

 

Hug for Iris.

 

All The Best, Joel

 

          JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                   Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 3:49 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Painting boat S of Hurricane belt

 

 

Thank you all for your replies. Sounds like Trinidad is the place to go. Steve, I do like the colors you chose and will probably mimic that on Kristy. Glad to hear the new nonskid is good, I was concerned about that.

Joel, you are always there to punch me when I’m about to do something I shouldn’t. I’ll make it a point to be there while the work is being done.

Again, thanks to you all!
Kent & Iris
SM 243
Kristy
Still in Hotel California (Ft Lauderdale) where you can check out but you can never leave. Ready to head for T & C next weather window.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

Danny Simms
 

Hi Miles, No problem. I would try the screws first, if they come out it is a very simple solution. If they wont come out try the other option. I would wait until needed because worn still functions and if they come out it isn't an emergency.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 13:44, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 


Hi Danny

Sorry I somehow missed your reply on this till today. 
Many thanks indeed for the info 

on our Maramu it sounds similar to the SM - either the stanchion has to move somehow or the track!

It seems a little short sighted of Amel to not allow the Genoa cars off for replacement or repairs etc. A slightly shorter teach and a stopper bolt would have been ideal. 

I’ve noticed a little wear on our port Genoa car and so I’d ideally like to replace both but this sounds like one of those big small jobs !

If anyone else has any experience of this also it’d be great to hear. 

Many thanks again

Miles 
Maramu 162

 

On 2 Jan 2019, at 14:45, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Miles,

assuming your Maramu is same as the SM in this respect. I took the screws out of the stanchion base and pushed it sideways to allow the car to slide off. However it was a challenge to get one of the screws out. Others have cut the sides of a short section the track off to allow the car to come off. This method assumes you don't need the full length.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 02 January 2019 at 14:23 "smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Happy new year !
We recently arrived in Barbados after fast crossing from Cape Verde’s
The boat was great but I noticed a few things that I now need to address
The port Genoa sheet car is worn at the point the shackles attaches.

I think it’s an original mid 80s a goiot car. It has a stylised seagull shaped ensign.

Does anyone know a suitable replacement for a vintage Maramu car and also how to remove / reinstall? I presume then come off the track fwd end. There is a stopper bolt head at the fwd end of the track so I presume I remove this and just slide the car off the track.. Space for removal of the car looks really tight with a stanchion base though.
If anyone has replaced their sheet cars any info would be very much appreciated

All the very best

Miles



 


 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally - INSURANCE

Courtney Gorman
 

Mark I would love to have your Novamar contact.  I have Pantaenius now and would prefer to keep my Boat South this year Grenada probably I have had some claims, near lightning strike which Pantaenius was great with so am wondering if anyone has experience with claims from Novamar?
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101
Benner Bay St Thomas


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 10:00 am
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally - INSURANCE

 
Duane,
 
We are currently insured with Pantaenius and felt forced to shop for insurance based on the requirements of the policy that changed drastically after the 2017 storms. We are uncertain of our plans but one of two things will happen, we will transit the canal and continue west or loop back around the Caribbean. Either way, the current policy was going to be troublesome. It is cost prohibitive for us in the Pacific and in the Caribbean just about impossible to adhere to the area restrictions and requirements during the summer months.
 
We spent 2018 hurricane season in the ABCs, mostly Bonaire. We understood we did not have named storm coverage while there since we could not comply with the policy and our only option was to run to Colombia in the event of a named storm. We had no issue with this strategy since statistically speaking the area is safe.
 
After looking at several companies, we narrowed our choices to three, in order of preference: Y-Yacht (UK), Novamar (USA) and Top Sail (UK). Y-Yacht and Novamar did not require a survey. Y-Yacht has asked for some pictures of the vessel and both have asked about age of rigging (need to be less than 10 years old or an inspection is required). I am leaning toward Y-Yacht since the wording of their policy is in everyday language and very clear to understand (like Pantaenius used to be). It is even posted on their website. All policies we are shopping are “declared value” policies.
 
Here is the wording from Novamar:
 
Navigation: U.S. Atlantic and Gulf coastal waters and inland waters thereto of the United States between Eastport, ME and
Brownsville, Texas, including the Bahamas and waters of the Caribbean Sea, excluding the waters of Cuba, Haiti, and
Venezuela. It is warranted between 1 July and 1 November, navigation is restricted to either north of St. Mary’s, GA or south of
12 degrees 40 minutes North Latitude.
 
Novamar allows for a vessel to stay in the waters of Grenada, ABCs, Colombia or Panama during hurricane season with a plan. I have worked with an agent for Novamar, let me know if you want his contact info. He was very helpful.
 
Several companies I contacted do not allow Colombian waters. Since this is where we are now, that was also a bit of a deal breaker. If you plan to head west, be aware some companies are doing this. Not really sure why.
 
In addition to the above, I understand Gowrie’s Jackline (IMIS) policy is recommended by others sailors. However, they required a full out of water survey less than 2 years old – no exceptions. This was a deal killer since the cost of the survey was not offset by any savings in premiums. The rates were in-line with those of Pantaenius. All the other companies we contacted quoted rates lower than Pantaenius, some significantly lower.
 
I have not done side by side comparisons of the companies I am looking at to our existing policy because it is obvious to us our current policy no longer meets our needs.
 
I think you are going to need to change insurance companies if you wish to stay in Grenada or the ABCs.
 
Hope this helps.
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia
www.creampuff.us
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 9:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally
 
 
Pantaenius Yacht Insurance - Southern Border of Hurricane Zone
 
I just heard from my Pantaenius Broker who told me last year Pantaenius was considering reestablishing a southern border for the hurricane zone.  He wrote:
 
"The southern border would be south of 10 degrees.  So,  that is most of Columbia and Panama.  Grenada is above 12 so does not qualify.  You can get Grenada but will have to be able to do one of our Stormplans and will have a Large named tropical storm deductible."


He didn't say whether this was official yet or in the works.


We're planning on going down the eastern Caribbean this year, and were planning on Grenada for a haul-out during hurricane season, but now I'm wondering where we could go south of 10 degrees?  Cartagena is even north of 10.


Any suggestions on marinas/boatyards south of 10 in Columbia?  The closer to Grenada the better obviously.  We were planning on going from Grenada to Central America anyway.


In the meantime I've asked for a quote from Y-yachts.


Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

Re: Shaft brake conundrum, any ideas appreciated!

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Porter

I have the same problem with the shaft break. Allthough the Pad's on mine A54#55 are not the same.
When the shaft was starting to turn I squeezed a metal rod between the holder and forward-arm (see pic's) as an interims fix, which is working well, but it's not a longterm solution.

I thought the pads are wearied (down) so I ordered new pads. Maud told me they have only one model, which where same as mine. When I received the new Pad's I realized they where the same thickness. 

I started thinking to re-engineer the break-bad holders because the Amel solution is a bit unreliable when I see other's issue with it.
Does anyone went to the process and problems as well and found a permanent reliable solution.
If there are any other ideas out there there? 

Best regards
Ruedi 
WASABI - A54#55
Marina di Ragusa, Sicily 

Wheel lock for wind vane

smiles bernard
 

Hello all

I’m considering a hydrovane for our vintage Maramu. I really miss having a no power, wind aligned self steering system.

The hydrovane, like the wind pilot 2 required that the main rudder is locked off.

Unfortunately my steering wheel hub is missing its lock. I found parts of it in a cupboard on the boat - so assume there is a problem/reason this was not refitted.

Does anyone have any info about how this is supposed to work?

Or any pictures/diagrams?

It would be great to get an idea of how this works before taking things apart on anchor.

I believe I have the ‘Morse 401 Commander’ steering system

Many thanks in advance for any insight

All the best
Miles
Maramu 162
Grenada