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Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

Gary Silver
 
Edited

Hi Bill and All:  

Perhaps I can add something about the behavior or the TDS (electrical conductivity = EC really) of the product water upon startup. 
Background:  My system is the original Amel system for a vintage 2001 (hull #335 SM).  It had (and still have) the sham TDS circuit board installation from Dessalator.  I have however re-fitted my system with an external continuous monitoring EC sensor on the product water line along with manual bypass valve switch and LED indicator light as well as a 110 decibel sonalert to alarm if the TDS (EC) rises above the level I select on the TDS sensor.   I have also installed a 7 day timer that flushes my system with product water from the tanks for 5 minutes every other day (uses about 4 liters of water per flush cycle) while I am not on the boat.  Haven't used sterilizing solution in more than 10 years now and have avoided all the corrosion problems associated therewith.  Additionally I am on only my 3rd set of membranes in 18 years. Those boats refitted with the Dessalator automatic flushing board and 54s etc I presume have a TDS sensor that actually works.

On my boat the Startup TDS readings:   Remember this is with the system completely filled with fresh water and the pressure knob turned anti-clockwise:   Upon initial startup the TDS is low (somewhere in the vicinity of where it was when the system was shut down, and in my case electrical conductivity (EC) of approx. 450 micro-siemens/cm, where 1 micro-ciemen/cm for sea water is about 0.68 TDS).  After a few seconds of raising the pressure to the operational range by turning the knob on the control panel to restrict flow and thereby increase the membrane side pressure, the EC (TDS) rises almost immediately to max out my salinity sensor over 2,000 micro-siemens.  About 20 seconds later, the conductivity/salinity begins to fall back to the acceptable range.  When it falls to this level I manually throw the switch to activate the diverter valve (valve is normally closed / in diversion) and simultaneously arm the sonalert alarm system.  The EC spike that occurs upon start-up has always baffled me as it occurs no matter how many months the system has been flushed with fresh water.  I can only assume it is due to some residual salts in the nooks and crannies of the membranes that is briefly excreted with the first product water.  These findings are consistent and is perhaps the basis of the 1 minute bypass timer in the  automatic system that Dessalator engineered.  I really like my manual system and I love that the system continuously monitors and instantaneously alarms if there is high TDS (EC). 

Just some food for thought on my experience with independent monitoring of the EC (TDS) of the Dessalator water maker.

Sincerely, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 #335
Puerto Del Rey Marina - Puerto Rico

Sincerely, 

 I have th


Re: Outhaul-furler motor shaft failure

Mike Ondra
 

Thanks for the info Gary. I shall report if I hear from Maud, and whatever other solution we come up with in the event that Amel no longer has access to this assembly.

Mike

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Silver via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 1:44 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Outhaul-furler motor shaft failure

 

Hi Mike:  When my SM, a 2001 #335, was about 4 years old the main sail furling gearbox motor shaft sheared for unknown reasons.  Ray Eaton, Joel's Ft. Lauderdale guru at the time, (about 2005) said he had not seen that happen before. I have not had this happen again despite the boat being now about 18 years old (but then I have only sailed her about 18,000 sea miles during that time). About two years ago I ordered a complete assembly (gearbox, motor, mounting ring and cover) from Maud as I realized that even though I had several spare gearboxes I didn't have a spare motor.  That entire assembly was available from Amel at that time. 

Good luck in securing replacements or alternatives. 

Sincerely, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 #335
Puerto Del Rey Marina, Fajardo Puerto Rico


Re: Outhaul-furler motor shaft failure

Gary Silver
 

Hi Mike:  When my SM, a 2001 #335, was about 4 years old the main sail furling gearbox motor shaft sheared for unknown reasons.  Ray Eaton, Joel's Ft. Lauderdale guru at the time, (about 2005) said he had not seen that happen before. I have not had this happen again despite the boat being now about 18 years old (but then I have only sailed her about 18,000 sea miles during that time). About two years ago I ordered a complete assembly (gearbox, motor, mounting ring and cover) from Maud as I realized that even though I had several spare gearboxes I didn't have a spare motor.  That entire assembly was available from Amel at that time. 

Good luck in securing replacements or alternatives. 

Sincerely, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 #335
Puerto Del Rey Marina, Fajardo Puerto Rico


Re: Outhaul-furler motor shaft failure

Mike Ondra
 

Upon disassembly of the gear box I found that the top furler gearbox main bearing had seized. This could well have been the origin of the shaft failure. These gear boxes being mounted with the shaft vertical are subject to water intrusion from above. I saw similar but not as severe deterioration on the outhaul gearbox several years ago when I rebuilt it. This bearing is above and probably not receiving grease, so even with the grease nipple configuration may be vulnerable. It might be a good idea at several year intervals to take apart the gearbox to check and possibly replace this bearing. They cost less than $20. Strategies to keep water off the top of these gearboxes would be helpful however difficult they may be to execute.

 

Anyway replacement of the Leroy Somers motor seems to be a problem. It appears that this model is no longer in production, there is no inventory, and they do not have a replacement with these specs. I have not as of yet heard from Maud if Amel may have this motor. Searching for a like spec/dimension motor on the internet gets close, but not perfect, matches relative to hp/Kw, rpm, Intrusion Protection, Insulation, shaft diameter/length, etc.

 

BTW, the manual furling system works quite well, but obviously not convenient.

 

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 6:51 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Outhaul-furler motor shaft failure

 

We have now had the second Leroy Somer motor shaft shear off where in enters the gearbox. First the outhaul 2 years ago, and now the mainsail furler. Sheared at same location. Rust evidence of possible stress crack that eventually left maybe 10%-15% of the shaft in tact that then sheared off. Aletes is 20 years old. Has anyone else experienced this? Had a spare for the first failure, now sourcing a replacement for the second failure.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Chesapeake Bay

 


Re: Any news about the 3D printed Toe pulley (headsail)

Red1 Stella SM359
 

Mark,

a bit late but I just wanted to say that the sheaves are installed on Stella SM359 and worked perfectly even under tension.  No issue at all; AND they look GREAT!

Thank you very much for your support and your sharing the details of the machinist! We should look at getting further SS things from him!

Redouan 
SM 359 Stella

On 11 Apr 2019, at 15:58, Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:

Jose,

My machinist just finished making another batch of the jib car pulleys from 316L Stainless Steel:

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<Single Jib Car Pulley Complete Kit.jpg>

<SM _ 207 02.jpg>

The design is pretty much identical to the original cast aluminum pulleys but we make them out of 316L Stainless Steel to avoid the corrosion issues the aluminum ones suffer from. I sell them for US$190 for each complete pulley so $380 for a set of two (2) pulleys.  Contact me at mfmcgovern at gmail dot com if you are interested in purchasing them.

Out of curiosity I got a quote for getting them made using Direct Metal Laser Sintering process (3D Printing) out of the same 316L Stainless Steel material. The quote was around US$1776 per pulley or US$3552 for a set of two pulleys:

<Jib Car Pulley 3D Print Quote.PNG>  
 

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: 24V electrical connection of Duo D 100 BY Dessalator

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Alex,
I made the enclosed pictures just before the overhaul I did on mine. In my case I did remove the whole unit. Quite some weightlifting involved doing that. Mine was  badly corroded because of poor initial assembly (leaking hose attachments). I made the picture to remember how things were connected.
Make sure you also replace the oil in the pump as it gets affected by the salt in the water after some time.

Hope this helps

Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121


Toe pulley

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

It posted some month ago a post abour "Beranrd" TOE PULLEY.

I had tested his pulleys and they seemed to work properly.

After the first tests I am obliged to note that they slip as soon as the load increases.

A modification is being tested ... not easy .... will keep you informed ...

Jean Luc on CottonBay



Re: BETA Motors

 

Alex,

I negotiated a discount on the Beta 85 for my Amel clients. Email me at brouse at gmail.com for more info.

There are a few things I had Beta test like the previous Beta requirement of increasing the diameter of the exhaust hose. Beta found that the Amel 54 Volvo exhaust hose is an approved diameter. Prior to that test Beta insisted on an increased size hose. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.yachtschool.com 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Tue, May 7, 2019, 12:21 AM Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...> wrote:
I'm interested to talk to owners who run their AMEL on a Beta motor (or who currently are in a project).
I plan to replace my Volvo in the next 1-3 years.
If you have information on AMELs with Beta or own one, please let me know.

Alex
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54#15
--
Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Am 06.05.19, 04:44, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> schrieb:

Bill,

 

This is the reply from Dessalator (and quite quick there were too!):

 

Dear Paul,

 

Thank you for your inquiry.

 

If you run the unit without increasing the pressure, it is normal that it shuts after one minute.

 

The good procedure to flush the water maker when you return on your boat is to turn the rinsing valve located on the low pressure pump, but WITHOUT running the water maker.

 

You will find the procedure enclosed.

 

If you have any doubt, you can call for free our engineer, M. Martin de Jong, on Whatsapp. Please find enclosed his contact info.

 

With our best regards,

 

Nicolas Bouffartigue

Secretary Dessalator

 

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 06 May 2019 09:49
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Thanks Mark. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 2:38 AM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

According to the Dessalator manual the system should shut down after one minute in this mode of operation.  See the excerpt from the manual below.

Fresh water should be always used with no pressure when going through the system (pressure dial turned all the way anti clockwise) and the system should always run with no pressure after a fresh water flush to dump all the fresh water that are in it, before making freshwater from sea water (also with the pressure dial all the way anti clockwise). When running the water maker with the dial all the way anti clockwise, it will shut itself down automatically after 1 minute. Only then, the water maker is ready for use.

When introducing the sterilizer you are operating in this condition.  I believe your system is operating correctly.  You will then go through the flush cycle when you put the system back into service.

Water will go through the membranes with the regulator turned all the way open "anti clockwise".  This position being the normal start position for the Dessalator which allows the high pressure pump to start with little to no head pressure.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


BETA Motors

Alexander Ramseyer
 

I'm interested to talk to owners who run their AMEL on a Beta motor (or who currently are in a project).
I plan to replace my Volvo in the next 1-3 years.
If you have information on AMELs with Beta or own one, please let me know.

Alex
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54#15
--
Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Am 06.05.19, 04:44, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> schrieb:

Bill,

 

This is the reply from Dessalator (and quite quick there were too!):

 

Dear Paul,

 

Thank you for your inquiry.

 

If you run the unit without increasing the pressure, it is normal that it shuts after one minute.

 

The good procedure to flush the water maker when you return on your boat is to turn the rinsing valve located on the low pressure pump, but WITHOUT running the water maker.

 

You will find the procedure enclosed.

 

If you have any doubt, you can call for free our engineer, M. Martin de Jong, on Whatsapp. Please find enclosed his contact info.

 

With our best regards,

 

Nicolas Bouffartigue

Secretary Dessalator

 

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 06 May 2019 09:49
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Thanks Mark. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 2:38 AM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

According to the Dessalator manual the system should shut down after one minute in this mode of operation.  See the excerpt from the manual below.

Fresh water should be always used with no pressure when going through the system (pressure dial turned all the way anti clockwise) and the system should always run with no pressure after a fresh water flush to dump all the fresh water that are in it, before making freshwater from sea water (also with the pressure dial all the way anti clockwise). When running the water maker with the dial all the way anti clockwise, it will shut itself down automatically after 1 minute. Only then, the water maker is ready for use.

When introducing the sterilizer you are operating in this condition.  I believe your system is operating correctly.  You will then go through the flush cycle when you put the system back into service.

Water will go through the membranes with the regulator turned all the way open "anti clockwise".  This position being the normal start position for the Dessalator which allows the high pressure pump to start with little to no head pressure.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


24V electrical connection of Duo D 100 BY Dessalator

Alexander Ramseyer
 

Could anyone who has the same system on board please share a picture of the electrical connection?

I had a guy from Watermakers Inc. Ft. Lauderdale on board to do a pump refurbishment (I tought..) He first wanted to de-install the whole unit....loosened the electrical connections to later find out that he prefers to only take the pump with him. It's quite incredible how this company (sent another guy to install, a third one did the actual pump refurbishment) left my boat.

Best regards,
Alex
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54#15

--
Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Am 06.05.19, 03:27, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> schrieb:

Thanks Bill and Mark.

 

If the manual says it cuts out after 1 minute then I guess its working properly. However, in the past, whenever I have returned to the boat and recommissioned the watermaker, I have run it on no pressure for half as hour, on advice, to flush all the sterilant through before turning up the pressure, and have never experienced this shutdown after 1 minute. I will contact Dessalator as Bill has suggested and get back to you with their answer.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 06 May 2019 09:49
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Thanks Mark. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 2:38 AM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

According to the Dessalator manual the system should shut down after one minute in this mode of operation.  See the excerpt from the manual below.

Fresh water should be always used with no pressure when going through the system (pressure dial turned all the way anti clockwise) and the system should always run with no pressure after a fresh water flush to dump all the fresh water that are in it, before making freshwater from sea water (also with the pressure dial all the way anti clockwise). When running the water maker with the dial all the way anti clockwise, it will shut itself down automatically after 1 minute. Only then, the water maker is ready for use.

When introducing the sterilizer you are operating in this condition.  I believe your system is operating correctly.  You will then go through the flush cycle when you put the system back into service.

Water will go through the membranes with the regulator turned all the way open "anti clockwise".  This position being the normal start position for the Dessalator which allows the high pressure pump to start with little to no head pressure.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Copper earthing/bonding strap broken in bilge on Amel 54

Barry Connor
 

Re: Bonding Earthing Connection to Keel.
We have completed the re-attachment of the earth bonding keel strap to Amel 54 "Lady Penelope II" and Amel 54 "Wasabi" here at Marina di Ragusa.
Rudi and I used copper earthing wire that you would find in building construction.
We put lug connectors on each end and covered the copper wire with heat shrink rubber/pvc tube, then sealed both ends with rubber/pvc liquid wire seal.
The reason that we sealed the copper wire was we saw how the copper strap had just been corroded away by the bilge water. The sealing of the complete length of the copper wire  was to make sure that no moisture/bilge water got into the copper wire  from either end.
We were able to attach the bottom of the copper wire to the keel bolt using a copper earth pole lug which we attached using a stainless steel bolt and nut with lock tight. The 30mm nut firmly secured this to the keel bolt.
The earth bonding wires from the boat connected at the top of the bilge sump to the original copper strap with copper sheet was drilled and the copper wire from the keel was attached using a stainless steel bolt and nut.
The photos below show how we unscrewed the keel bolt nut with an extended 30mm socket with several extensions firmly bound together with Gorilla tape. We used 2 sided Gorilla tape inside the socket to ensure that the nut stayed inside the socket when unscrewed.
I hope that all can follow this and understand the photos.
Please ask if you have any queries.
I do hope that we don't get told that we have done this completely wrong.

Best Regards

Barry and Penny "Lady Penelope II"Inline imageInline imageInline imageInline imageInline imageInline imageInline imageInline image
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Rudi and Sabina. "Wasabi"
Amel 54's
Marina di Ragusa   Sicily


Re: Wind Generators

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Yes, no doubt a compromise for some but ofor us out here, we never take our awning down.

Actually on Island Pearl we have the complete (as new) original Amel supplied fold back awning permanently sitting under the new higher and wider one. The new one is done in a way that it is never removed.

We did not like the original one as it had no windows facing forwards above the cockpit hard top and was difficult to see the sails plus lacked decent air flow through the cockpit. Using the new one there is excellent viability and no need to remove.

Colin
SV Island Pearl II #332
Panama

On Mon, 6 May 2019, 02:20 Alan Leslie, <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
Impressive !, but it means the cockpit is permanently covered...maybe not so bad these days !
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Bill,

 

This is the reply from Dessalator (and quite quick there were too!):

 

Dear Paul,

 

Thank you for your inquiry.

 

If you run the unit without increasing the pressure, it is normal that it shuts after one minute.

 

The good procedure to flush the water maker when you return on your boat is to turn the rinsing valve located on the low pressure pump, but WITHOUT running the water maker.

 

You will find the procedure enclosed.

 

If you have any doubt, you can call for free our engineer, M. Martin de Jong, on Whatsapp. Please find enclosed his contact info.

 

With our best regards,

 

Nicolas Bouffartigue

Secretary Dessalator

 

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 06 May 2019 09:49
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Thanks Mark. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 2:38 AM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

According to the Dessalator manual the system should shut down after one minute in this mode of operation.  See the excerpt from the manual below.

Fresh water should be always used with no pressure when going through the system (pressure dial turned all the way anti clockwise) and the system should always run with no pressure after a fresh water flush to dump all the fresh water that are in it, before making freshwater from sea water (also with the pressure dial all the way anti clockwise). When running the water maker with the dial all the way anti clockwise, it will shut itself down automatically after 1 minute. Only then, the water maker is ready for use.

When introducing the sterilizer you are operating in this condition.  I believe your system is operating correctly.  You will then go through the flush cycle when you put the system back into service.

Water will go through the membranes with the regulator turned all the way open "anti clockwise".  This position being the normal start position for the Dessalator which allows the high pressure pump to start with little to no head pressure.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: fitting bow

Barry Connor
 

I just chased up Sonja at Amel Hyeres again about the replacement for my 6mm bow furler connection. She assured me that they are making a new 10mm stem for me. Hope to be able to fit this in August when we visit Hyeres on our way to The Canaries prior to crossing.
Regards

Barry and Penny
“Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54. #17. (2006)
Waiting for this Mistral to ease before we leave Marina di Ragusa for the last time.
Marina di Ragusa is highly recommended for winter stop overs.

On May 5, 2019, at 19:41, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Amelia
AML 54-019 2006



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Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Thanks Bill and Mark.

 

If the manual says it cuts out after 1 minute then I guess its working properly. However, in the past, whenever I have returned to the boat and recommissioned the watermaker, I have run it on no pressure for half as hour, on advice, to flush all the sterilant through before turning up the pressure, and have never experienced this shutdown after 1 minute. I will contact Dessalator as Bill has suggested and get back to you with their answer.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 06 May 2019 09:49
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Thanks Mark. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 2:38 AM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

According to the Dessalator manual the system should shut down after one minute in this mode of operation.  See the excerpt from the manual below.

Fresh water should be always used with no pressure when going through the system (pressure dial turned all the way anti clockwise) and the system should always run with no pressure after a fresh water flush to dump all the fresh water that are in it, before making freshwater from sea water (also with the pressure dial all the way anti clockwise). When running the water maker with the dial all the way anti clockwise, it will shut itself down automatically after 1 minute. Only then, the water maker is ready for use.

When introducing the sterilizer you are operating in this condition.  I believe your system is operating correctly.  You will then go through the flush cycle when you put the system back into service.

Water will go through the membranes with the regulator turned all the way open "anti clockwise".  This position being the normal start position for the Dessalator which allows the high pressure pump to start with little to no head pressure.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Wind Generators

Alan Leslie
 

Impressive !, but it means the cockpit is permanently covered...maybe not so bad these days !
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Thanks Mark. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 2:38 AM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

According to the Dessalator manual the system should shut down after one minute in this mode of operation.  See the excerpt from the manual below.

Fresh water should be always used with no pressure when going through the system (pressure dial turned all the way anti clockwise) and the system should always run with no pressure after a fresh water flush to dump all the fresh water that are in it, before making freshwater from sea water (also with the pressure dial all the way anti clockwise). When running the water maker with the dial all the way anti clockwise, it will shut itself down automatically after 1 minute. Only then, the water maker is ready for use.

When introducing the sterilizer you are operating in this condition.  I believe your system is operating correctly.  You will then go through the flush cycle when you put the system back into service.

Water will go through the membranes with the regulator turned all the way open "anti clockwise".  This position being the normal start position for the Dessalator which allows the high pressure pump to start with little to no head pressure.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Correct, sorry about that. 

Who knows? Possibly there is a soft switch and timer that activates the alarm when there is zero output flow. I would email Nicholas at contact"at"dessalator.com

You want to know, I need to know, and we likely have an audience that wants to also know. If you like, I'll email him. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sun, May 5, 2019, 9:03 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Bill,

 

The pressure was off – all the way anticlockwise -  so there should have been no water going through the membranes and therefore none getting to the TDS sensor.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 05 May 2019 19:31
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Paul,

 

I would say that if the TDS (Total Dissolved Sensor) is working you should get a RED light and shutdown because you certainly have a high TDS with the sterilizing solution in a bucket of water.

 

Best,

 

Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St.

Galveston, Texas 77550

832-380-4970

 

 

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 2:18 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I was flushing steriliser through my Dessalator, both hoses in a bucket of solution, no pressure, and it kept on cutting out after one minute with the red error light flashing. I just re-started it each time without any other problem, but it still cut out after every minute of operation. It never did that before. I’m curious – any ideas?

 

Cheers,

Paul

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Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Bill,

 

The pressure was off – all the way anticlockwise -  so there should have been no water going through the membranes and therefore none getting to the TDS sensor.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 05 May 2019 19:31
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Paul,

 

I would say that if the TDS (Total Dissolved Sensor) is working you should get a RED light and shutdown because you certainly have a high TDS with the sterilizing solution in a bucket of water.

 

Best,

 

Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St.

Galveston, Texas 77550

832-380-4970

 

 

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 2:18 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I was flushing steriliser through my Dessalator, both hoses in a bucket of solution, no pressure, and it kept on cutting out after one minute with the red error light flashing. I just re-started it each time without any other problem, but it still cut out after every minute of operation. It never did that before. I’m curious – any ideas?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


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Bow chainplate

ngtnewington Newington
 

Some time ago I was asked if Amelia an Amel 54 Hull number 019 had the beefed up bow fitting onto which the forestay is attached. The answer is it is 10 mm. So yes.
Regards to all,

Nick, ready to leave Funchal bound for the Mediterranean tomorrow.