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Dinghy for a 54

Courtney Gorman
 

Hello all and merry Christmas I was wondering if anyone can tell me what the maximum length dinghy that can fit on the aft cabin top of the 54 longitudinally not across
Thank You
Courtney 
sv Trippin 
St Thomas .


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] NIKIMAT insurance update

Roque
 

Alexander.

Many of us have a lot to thank you for all the rich material you made available. Even owning an A54, I found  unevaluable information and used more than a few of your pictures to help me out. So, if you feel like, keep sharing your experience!

Glad to hear the insurance made a new offer. Things are getting better. Hope you will reach a fair deal in the near future.

If you ever decide to include Brazil in one of your trips, please let me know.

Thank you and happy New Year.

Roque

Attika – A54 117

Paraty- Brazil


Em sex, 21 de dez de 2018 às 23:07, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> escreveu:

 

Alexandre,


Your experience has been an education for many of us, myself included.  Please keep us informed as this develops as much as you want to.  It is appreciated.

Thanks and Merry Christmas!
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] NIKIMAT insurance update

Duane Siegfri
 

Alexandre,

Your experience has been an education for many of us, myself included.  Please keep us informed as this develops as much as you want to.  It is appreciated.

Thanks and Merry Christmas!
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] NIKIMAT insurance update

michael winand
 

Thanks for sharing your experience.
Wishing you a prosperous new year. 

On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 at 5:26 am, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
 

Insurance update.
As you might remember, the insurance (Helvetia contracted through the broker DeLassee) was holding on the partial payment because I did not pay “this year’s premium”.

Summation:
A year ago, the insurance offered a settlement 27.16% less than the agreed value of the contrat.
I said no and hired 2 lawyers.
Under french law, which my policy is governed under, the insurance has to pay the amount they offer as a “partial” payment.

The way they hold that payment, was by using article 8.4.4 from their policy saying that “insurance is canceled in case of total loss, etc. BUT ADDING: becomes effective the day the settlement is paid”.
Since I said no to the insulting amount and no payment was done, then I consequently still owe them the premium until we settle… (which could take years…).

Well, that last sentence is “illegal” (article 1170 of the old french law) because: “it is a clause that deprive the obligation from the debtor (the insurance)”.
In french:
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006070721&idArticle=LEGIARTI000006436553&dateTexte=&categorieLien=cid

The partial payment was made in November.
I called the new person handling my case at the insurance to tell him that by now he must know that I am not going to let go, and that I am still owed money from the collision in Nassau in 2014… (where I was at zero fault, but forced to accept 50%).

Last week, the insurance made a better offer, BUT WITH A TRICK.

First, the new settlement offer is not the “Agreed” value for which I have been paying the premium for all these years, it is 14% less and represents the market value of a similar SM2K.

Second, the trick is that if I accept their new offer, then the insurance is no longer responsible for any liability, etc. Which is a big NO. Why? Because the Simpson Bay marina has been trying to get money for a year and by sighing that document, then I would have to deal with them, hire other lawyers and could have to pay some damages.
So my lawyers are writing a modification saying the settlement only concerns damages to the ship, but let alive liability, etc.

I keep an eye on the forum and am touched to see time to time my illustrations are being mentioned.

Wishing all the Amel Owner a Merry Christmas and sending my most since wished for 2019: Good Health, Happiness, Love, Success, Travels and all you wish for.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT, lost during Hurricane Irma in Sint Maarten on the 6th of September 2017.

[Amel Yacht Owners] NIKIMAT insurance update

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Insurance update.
As you might remember, the insurance (Helvetia contracted through the broker DeLassee) was holding on the partial payment because I did not pay “this year’s premium”.

Summation:
A year ago, the insurance offered a settlement 27.16% less than the agreed value of the contrat.
I said no and hired 2 lawyers.
Under french law, which my policy is governed under, the insurance has to pay the amount they offer as a “partial” payment.

The way they hold that payment, was by using article 8.4.4 from their policy saying that “insurance is canceled in case of total loss, etc. BUT ADDING: becomes effective the day the settlement is paid”.
Since I said no to the insulting amount and no payment was done, then I consequently still owe them the premium until we settle… (which could take years…).

Well, that last sentence is “illegal” (article 1170 of the old french law) because: “it is a clause that deprive the obligation from the debtor (the insurance)”.
In french:
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006070721&idArticle=LEGIARTI000006436553&dateTexte=&categorieLien=cid

The partial payment was made in November.
I called the new person handling my case at the insurance to tell him that by now he must know that I am not going to let go, and that I am still owed money from the collision in Nassau in 2014… (where I was at zero fault, but forced to accept 50%).

Last week, the insurance made a better offer, BUT WITH A TRICK.

First, the new settlement offer is not the “Agreed” value for which I have been paying the premium for all these years, it is 14% less and represents the market value of a similar SM2K.

Second, the trick is that if I accept their new offer, then the insurance is no longer responsible for any liability, etc. Which is a big NO. Why? Because the Simpson Bay marina has been trying to get money for a year and by sighing that document, then I would have to deal with them, hire other lawyers and could have to pay some damages.
So my lawyers are writing a modification saying the settlement only concerns damages to the ship, but let alive liability, etc.

I keep an eye on the forum and am touched to see time to time my illustrations are being mentioned.

Wishing all the Amel Owner a Merry Christmas and sending my most since wished for 2019: Good Health, Happiness, Love, Success, Travels and all you wish for.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT, lost during Hurricane Irma in Sint Maarten on the 6th of September 2017.

Re: Amel Yacht Owner's Registry

Brent Cameron
 
Edited

Greg Shea had the brilliant idea to add another column to the Registry to show the date of the last update so that we could see at a glance how old the information was.  I set the bulk of the information to yesterday when I brought the registry alive and then those folks who have updated the links today show with today's date.  
 
The registry now shows by default:
  Year
  Model
  Hull
  Name
  Last Modified
 
And by explicit consent of the owner, some or all of:
  Owner's Name(s)
  Email(s)
  Home Port
  Current Location
  Flag of Registry
  Website(s). (this could be your Facebook page or YouTube channel too as I have noticed that a quite a few people have Facebook pages or YouTube Channels for their boats).
 
I'd encourage everyone to check their boat's listing in the Registry and change it if it isn't right as shown (or tell us you don't want it shown at all).  I'm quite heartened by the positive responses we've had so far.  
 
Again, the registry (and update form) can be found here:

Thanks again Greg.  
 
Brent Cameron, Future Super Maramu 2000 Owner

Re: Amel Yacht Owner's Registry

Brent Cameron
 
Edited

Thanks Ryan... I was keeping that link alive until I figured out whether or not if I deleted the original message inn this thread, it would collapse the entire thread.  It didn't so I deleted the original message with the link in it.  The only link to the Registry should now be:
 
I didn't want to delete the links inside that file as it would have meant having to redo the registry on another sheet.   I wish there was a way to put the sticky up at the top for the location of this thread of the Registry and Update Forms but it's beyond me to do figure it out. 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Yacht Owner's Registry

Brent Cameron
 

Re: Amel Yacht Owner's Registry

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

Just for the record, and it was probably my typo, but Sangaris is a 1992 Santorin, not 1982. I think in technical data-base-speak that's the old garbage in - garbage out. 
Cheers,
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <brentcameron61@...> wrote :
...........(text clipped)
  For instance one might enter in Sangaris and find out it is a 1982 Santorin Ketch, Hull Number 68 owned by Craig and Katherine Briggs and get their email address (since they have positively approved giving out their name/email).  
.............(text clipped)

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Yacht Owner's Registry

Kelly Ran
 

Hi Brent,
The URLs that you listed (in the uploaded file) have already been posted to the forum. (See your message at the top of this thread. The links look identical.) I recommend that you change the URLs so that users can enjoy privacy as advertised.
Cheers
kelly + ryan
SM233 Iteration
Le Marin

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 1:35 AM brentcameron61@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks for jumping in Bill.  Ass usual, you got right to the point.   In light of all of the comments and the somewhat heated discussion, I have modified the Registry with Alan's guidance to only reflect (by default):

  Year
  Model
  Hull#
  Boat Name

If the owner choses, they can also add some or all of:
  Owner's Name
  Email
  Home Port
  Current Location:
  Flag of Registry:
  Website (of the boat or sailing channel, etc).

I have updated the Registry Update form to allow members to completely remove their boat but also to update the actual items they might like to show (e.g. current location).   For the two Mark's (Brass Ring and Creampuff) and Teun, I have removed your boats from the list entirely - well to be honest, Brass Ring and Teun's boat weren't in there in the first place. as the list I built this off of had only Super Maramu's in it.  Creampuff has been deleted and now longer shows.  

I had looked at moving it over to the yahoo database as you suggested but this is problematic for two big reasons.  The first being that Yahoo lets members download copies of the database which I believe is very dangerous.  With the current system, it is online and can't be easily copied and changes every time it is updated.  When this discussion became heated, I took it offline for a day and just left the headers for discussion purposes (nobody seemed to notice!) .  None of the data was left floating around in the ether and it took me about 2 minutes to do that.  This would be impossible with copies of the the database floating around - once they are out there, they are out there.  A second major issue is that we would lose the automatic (more or less) ability to update the database with people filling out the permission form.  I haven't completely automated it yet, but it is 75% of the way there already and it shouldn't take me that long to completely automate it so that it will be almost completely self-sufficient.  My intention wasn't to build something that would take the moderators even more time to update or police and frankly, I'd like to get out there sailing with you folks!

As you had suggested, the one advantage of putting the database on yahoo over the current system is to hide the link so that it can not be accessed by non-members of the group.  This could easily be addressed by putting the link to the Registry (and the update form) into a file in the Files section of the forum and then only members could find it.  I was going to do this and delete the link in the original post in this thread but I discovered that I can't edit my post without deleting it and I'm not sure what will happen to this thread if I do that so I'll hold off until someone tells me it's O.K. to do it.  In the meantime, here is the link to the file containing the Registry and Registry Update Form:

We currently have 250 boats in the registry but of course the large portion of those just have Year, Name, Model and Boat Name. 

The final thought that occurred to me is that perhaps we might be better served by a lookup function rather than a listing of all of the boats.  For instance one might enter in Sangaris and find out it is a 1982 Santorin Ketch, Hull Number 68 owned by Craig and Katherine Briggs and get their email address (since they have positively approved giving out their name/email).  This way the Registry would be even less useful to anyone who is not a member.   You might also be able to ask what boats were in St Maarten and it would return a list of boats that had (optionally) indicated their current location was St. Maarten.  I suspect this would take a bit more work but it might be another idea to further protect the legitimate concerns and expectations of the members surrounding the privacy and security of their data. 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hf installation

Massimo Vecchietti
 

...io ho isolato il paterazzo di destra e funziona benissimo con  accordatore e Pactor III
Max
SV Patchouli II 
SM # 84

Il giorno gio 20 dic 2018 alle ore 09:08 Stefano Biffi cptbiffi@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:
 

Hallo, it’s a whip. The model I’m looking is Glomex PRA 703; but many similar are available also in the same brand.

THANKS all for the different suggestions and Merry Christmas and Happy new year 

Stefano
N'EVEREST SM185
now in Italy 

Il giorno 18 dic 2018, alle ore 12:44, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

Hi Stephanie,
You talk about a 7m antenna. Is that an isolated backstay or a whip antenna you are planning to use.
If it’s a whip, can you please share the model number?

I agree with what the others have said, the tuner should be in the lazarette, with the minimum cable length between the tuner module and the antenna.

Regards
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel Yacht Owner's Registry

Roque
 

I have just completed the Registry Update. Very friendly interface. You've done a good job. 

 

As long as anyone can freely choose to participate, I don’t see why you shouldn’t carry on. Time will tell if this is a useful tool – as I think it is- or not.

 

Roque

Attika A54 – 117

Paraty- Rio de Janeiro


Em qui, 20 de dez de 2018 às 04:35, brentcameron61@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> escreveu:

 

Thanks for jumping in Bill.  Ass usual, you got right to the point.   In light of all of the comments and the somewhat heated discussion, I have modified the Registry with Alan's guidance to only reflect (by default):

  Year
  Model
  Hull#
  Boat Name

If the owner choses, they can also add some or all of:
  Owner's Name
  Email
  Home Port
  Current Location:
  Flag of Registry:
  Website (of the boat or sailing channel, etc).

I have updated the Registry Update form to allow members to completely remove their boat but also to update the actual items they might like to show (e.g. current location).   For the two Mark's (Brass Ring and Creampuff) and Teun, I have removed your boats from the list entirely - well to be honest, Brass Ring and Teun's boat weren't in there in the first place. as the list I built this off of had only Super Maramu's in it.  Creampuff has been deleted and now longer shows.  

I had looked at moving it over to the yahoo database as you suggested but this is problematic for two big reasons.  The first being that Yahoo lets members download copies of the database which I believe is very dangerous.  With the current system, it is online and can't be easily copied and changes every time it is updated.  When this discussion became heated, I took it offline for a day and just left the headers for discussion purposes (nobody seemed to notice!) .  None of the data was left floating around in the ether and it took me about 2 minutes to do that.  This would be impossible with copies of the the database floating around - once they are out there, they are out there.  A second major issue is that we would lose the automatic (more or less) ability to update the database with people filling out the permission form.  I haven't completely automated it yet, but it is 75% of the way there already and it shouldn't take me that long to completely automate it so that it will be almost completely self-sufficient.  My intention wasn't to build something that would take the moderators even more time to update or police and frankly, I'd like to get out there sailing with you folks!

As you had suggested, the one advantage of putting the database on yahoo over the current system is to hide the link so that it can not be accessed by non-members of the group.  This could easily be addressed by putting the link to the Registry (and the update form) into a file in the Files section of the forum and then only members could find it.  I was going to do this and delete the link in the original post in this thread but I discovered that I can't edit my post without deleting it and I'm not sure what will happen to this thread if I do that so I'll hold off until someone tells me it's O.K. to do it.  In the meantime, here is the link to the file containing the Registry and Registry Update Form:

We currently have 250 boats in the registry but of course the large portion of those just have Year, Name, Model and Boat Name. 

The final thought that occurred to me is that perhaps we might be better served by a lookup function rather than a listing of all of the boats.  For instance one might enter in Sangaris and find out it is a 1982 Santorin Ketch, Hull Number 68 owned by Craig and Katherine Briggs and get their email address (since they have positively approved giving out their name/email).  This way the Registry would be even less useful to anyone who is not a member.   You might also be able to ask what boats were in St Maarten and it would return a list of boats that had (optionally) indicated their current location was St. Maarten.  I suspect this would take a bit more work but it might be another idea to further protect the legitimate concerns and expectations of the members surrounding the privacy and security of their data. 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hf installation

Dean Gillies
 

Thanks Stefano, buon Natale.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hf installation

Stefano Biffi
 

Hallo, it’s a whip. The model I’m looking is Glomex PRA 703; but many similar are available also in the same brand.
THANKS all for the different suggestions and Merry Christmas and Happy new year 

Stefano
N'EVEREST SM185
now in Italy 

Il giorno 18 dic 2018, alle ore 12:44, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

Hi Stephanie,
You talk about a 7m antenna. Is that an isolated backstay or a whip antenna you are planning to use.
If it’s a whip, can you please share the model number?

I agree with what the others have said, the tuner should be in the lazarette, with the minimum cable length between the tuner module and the antenna.

Regards
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RE: Amel Swag

Kaplan,Andre
 

Hello Ric,

I’d like 2 hats 
I’m in Connecticut
Please send payment info
Thank you

Andre Kaplan
Renaissance 2000
Mango 71 88


On Dec 19, 2018, at 4:34 PM, Teun BAAS teun@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Ric,

 

I would like 2 hats pls.

Currently in USA – pls let me know how to handle payment etc.

 

Best Regards Teun

AMELIT  A54 # 128

Dec 19, 2018   14:32:06

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2:24 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Swag

 

 

I had some folks ask about the Rendezvous bags and if I had any of the hats left. If you want extra, your welcome to buy them at my cost. Bags are $30, hats $18. Only 5 bags left & 12 hats. I am not in the swag business, it’s just for fun. Send me a direct email if your interested, before my kids appropriate them. Merry Christmas
Ric
Bali Hai SN 24
Annapolis

Re: Amel Yacht Owner's Registry

Brent Cameron
 

Thanks for jumping in Bill.  Ass usual, you got right to the point.   In light of all of the comments and the somewhat heated discussion, I have modified the Registry with Alan's guidance to only reflect (by default):
  Year
  Model
  Hull#
  Boat Name

If the owner choses, they can also add some or all of:
  Owner's Name
  Email
  Home Port
  Current Location:
  Flag of Registry:
  Website (of the boat or sailing channel, etc).

I have updated the Registry Update form to allow members to completely remove their boat but also to update the actual items they might like to show (e.g. current location).   For the two Mark's (Brass Ring and Creampuff) and Teun, I have removed your boats from the list entirely - well to be honest, Brass Ring and Teun's boat weren't in there in the first place. as the list I built this off of had only Super Maramu's in it.  Creampuff has been deleted and now longer shows.  

I had looked at moving it over to the yahoo database as you suggested but this is problematic for two big reasons.  The first being that Yahoo lets members download copies of the database which I believe is very dangerous.  With the current system, it is online and can't be easily copied and changes every time it is updated.  When this discussion became heated, I took it offline for a day and just left the headers for discussion purposes (nobody seemed to notice!) .  None of the data was left floating around in the ether and it took me about 2 minutes to do that.  This would be impossible with copies of the the database floating around - once they are out there, they are out there.  A second major issue is that we would lose the automatic (more or less) ability to update the database with people filling out the permission form.  I haven't completely automated it yet, but it is 75% of the way there already and it shouldn't take me that long to completely automate it so that it will be almost completely self-sufficient.  My intention wasn't to build something that would take the moderators even more time to update or police and frankly, I'd like to get out there sailing with you folks!

As you had suggested, the one advantage of putting the database on yahoo over the current system is to hide the link so that it can not be accessed by non-members of the group.  This could easily be addressed by putting the link to the Registry (and the update form) into a file in the Files section of the forum and then only members could find it.  I was going to do this and delete the link in the original post in this thread but I discovered that I can't edit my post without deleting it and I'm not sure what will happen to this thread if I do that so I'll hold off until someone tells me it's O.K. to do it.  In the meantime, here is the link to the file containing the Registry and Registry Update Form:

We currently have 250 boats in the registry but of course the large portion of those just have Year, Name, Model and Boat Name. 

The final thought that occurred to me is that perhaps we might be better served by a lookup function rather than a listing of all of the boats.  For instance one might enter in Sangaris and find out it is a 1982 Santorin Ketch, Hull Number 68 owned by Craig and Katherine Briggs and get their email address (since they have positively approved giving out their name/email).  This way the Registry would be even less useful to anyone who is not a member.   You might also be able to ask what boats were in St Maarten and it would return a list of boats that had (optionally) indicated their current location was St. Maarten.  I suspect this would take a bit more work but it might be another idea to further protect the legitimate concerns and expectations of the members surrounding the privacy and security of their data. 

New file uploaded to amelyachtowners

amelyachtowners@...
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the amelyachtowners
group.

File : /Amel Yacht Owner's Registry and Update Form
Uploaded by : @bcameron <@bcameron>
Description : This file contains the link for the Registry as well as the form to update your boat in it

You can access this file at the URL:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/files/Amel%20Yacht%20Owner%27s%20Registry%20and%20Update%20Form

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=content&y=PROD_GRPS&locale=en_US&id=SLN15398

Regards,

@bcameron <@bcameron>

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cleaning the hella fans

eric freedman
 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sm fell off cradel

nz free
 

I was in Grenada after hurricane Ivan. I did see the damage that was done to this boat. I knew the owner, a Swiss gentleman. The damage was catastrophic, the bulkheads were cracked and seperated, the Hull was severely damaged the masts were gone. I was really surprised someone was able to repair it. I recognize the boat because that box structure by the nav station is a fridge. I would be very careful.

Re: Amel Swag

Teun BAAS
 

Hi Ric,

 

I would like 2 hats pls.

Currently in USA – pls let me know how to handle payment etc.

 

Best Regards Teun

AMELIT  A54 # 128

Dec 19, 2018   14:32:06

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2:24 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Swag

 

 

I had some folks ask about the Rendezvous bags and if I had any of the hats left. If you want extra, your welcome to buy them at my cost. Bags are $30, hats $18. Only 5 bags left & 12 hats. I am not in the swag business, it’s just for fun. Send me a direct email if your interested, before my kids appropriate them. Merry Christmas
Ric
Bali Hai SN 24
Annapolis