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Re: Furling motor brushes

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi again Dave, Just a little more on this. Put the file on a flat surface and rub the brush back and forth on it. Much more controllable that way.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 30 May 2019 at 07:22 Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Dave,

If you need to reduce the size of carbon brushes it is easily and accurately achieved with a file.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 30 May 2019 at 06:31 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Dave and Shelley,

There are at least 5-6 different Mainmast furling and outhaul motors tat have been used by Amel over the years. Additionally there are 12 volt (like yours) and 24 volt.

I suspect that even SAV at Amel cannot answer your question, except to say, "NO, the brushes are not the same."

I saw the slightly smaller brush used successfully by SM233 Iteration. Normally I would record the source of that brush as one to refer to my clients. I did not because I believe at some point that smaller width brush will cause a problem when it wears and the length becomes shorter. I may be wrong, and I am sure that only multiple experiences over time will prove me right or wrong.

One thing for sure is that you can always buy a larger electric motor brush and cut it to size. This is the safe solution. You may have to take the larger brush to a machine shop to have it cut.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 1:20 PM < davidcbruce57@...> wrote:
Thanks for this sourcing information Kelly and Ryan.  

 Would anyone (Bill?) know if the brushes on all furling motors on a given boat as well as those on different model boats such as SM and SN are the same?    

Thanks, 

Dave and Shelley Bruce
Liesse, SN006 
Gaeta, Italy 

On May 28, 2019, at 3:48 PM, Kelly Ran < naryllek@...> wrote:

Hi all,

We recently needed to change the brushes on our main furling motor (Leroy Somer MBT86M).

I found an 8mm x 10mm x 17mm brush which works for us, so far. Unsure of the material but it looks similar to electrographite.

It seems that other owners have issues sourcing this brush, so here is the info:
Eurton Electric  SPR-A007  
7.50USD, ships from California

We also found that Maude has some slightly different brushes (8mm x 9mm x 16mm) in stock right now for 24 Euros. We did not order these, as the Eurton brushes work.

Fair winds,
kelly + ryan
SM233 Iteration
Boston

 

 


 


 


Re: Furling motor brushes

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Dave,

If you need to reduce the size of carbon brushes it is easily and accurately achieved with a file.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 30 May 2019 at 06:31 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Dave and Shelley,

There are at least 5-6 different Mainmast furling and outhaul motors tat have been used by Amel over the years. Additionally there are 12 volt (like yours) and 24 volt.

I suspect that even SAV at Amel cannot answer your question, except to say, "NO, the brushes are not the same."

I saw the slightly smaller brush used successfully by SM233 Iteration. Normally I would record the source of that brush as one to refer to my clients. I did not because I believe at some point that smaller width brush will cause a problem when it wears and the length becomes shorter. I may be wrong, and I am sure that only multiple experiences over time will prove me right or wrong.

One thing for sure is that you can always buy a larger electric motor brush and cut it to size. This is the safe solution. You may have to take the larger brush to a machine shop to have it cut.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 1:20 PM < davidcbruce57@...> wrote:
Thanks for this sourcing information Kelly and Ryan.  

 Would anyone (Bill?) know if the brushes on all furling motors on a given boat as well as those on different model boats such as SM and SN are the same?    

Thanks, 

Dave and Shelley Bruce
Liesse, SN006 
Gaeta, Italy 

On May 28, 2019, at 3:48 PM, Kelly Ran < naryllek@...> wrote:

Hi all,

We recently needed to change the brushes on our main furling motor (Leroy Somer MBT86M).

I found an 8mm x 10mm x 17mm brush which works for us, so far. Unsure of the material but it looks similar to electrographite.

It seems that other owners have issues sourcing this brush, so here is the info:
Eurton Electric  SPR-A007  
7.50USD, ships from California

We also found that Maude has some slightly different brushes (8mm x 9mm x 16mm) in stock right now for 24 Euros. We did not order these, as the Eurton brushes work.

Fair winds,
kelly + ryan
SM233 Iteration
Boston

 

 


Re: Furling motor brushes

 

Dave and Shelley,

There are at least 5-6 different Mainmast furling and outhaul motors tat have been used by Amel over the years. Additionally there are 12 volt (like yours) and 24 volt.

I suspect that even SAV at Amel cannot answer your question, except to say, "NO, the brushes are not the same."

I saw the slightly smaller brush used successfully by SM233 Iteration. Normally I would record the source of that brush as one to refer to my clients. I did not because I believe at some point that smaller width brush will cause a problem when it wears and the length becomes shorter. I may be wrong, and I am sure that only multiple experiences over time will prove me right or wrong.

One thing for sure is that you can always buy a larger electric motor brush and cut it to size. This is the safe solution. You may have to take the larger brush to a machine shop to have it cut.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 1:20 PM <davidcbruce57@...> wrote:
Thanks for this sourcing information Kelly and Ryan.  

 Would anyone (Bill?) know if the brushes on all furling motors on a given boat as well as those on different model boats such as SM and SN are the same?    

Thanks, 

Dave and Shelley Bruce
Liesse, SN006 
Gaeta, Italy 

On May 28, 2019, at 3:48 PM, Kelly Ran <naryllek@...> wrote:

Hi all,

We recently needed to change the brushes on our main furling motor (Leroy Somer MBT86M).

I found an 8mm x 10mm x 17mm brush which works for us, so far. Unsure of the material but it looks similar to electrographite.

It seems that other owners have issues sourcing this brush, so here is the info:
Eurton Electric SPR-A007  
7.50USD, ships from California

We also found that Maude has some slightly different brushes (8mm x 9mm x 16mm) in stock right now for 24 Euros. We did not order these, as the Eurton brushes work.

Fair winds,
kelly + ryan
SM233 Iteration
Boston


Re: Furling motor brushes

david bruce
 

Thanks for this sourcing information Kelly and Ryan.  

 Would anyone (Bill?) know if the brushes on all furling motors on a given boat as well as those on different model boats such as SM and SN are the same?    

Thanks, 

Dave and Shelley Bruce
Liesse, SN006 
Gaeta, Italy 

On May 28, 2019, at 3:48 PM, Kelly Ran <naryllek@...> wrote:

Hi all,

We recently needed to change the brushes on our main furling motor (Leroy Somer MBT86M).

I found an 8mm x 10mm x 17mm brush which works for us, so far. Unsure of the material but it looks similar to electrographite.

It seems that other owners have issues sourcing this brush, so here is the info:
Eurton Electric SPR-A007  
7.50USD, ships from California

We also found that Maude has some slightly different brushes (8mm x 9mm x 16mm) in stock right now for 24 Euros. We did not order these, as the Eurton brushes work.

Fair winds,
kelly + ryan
SM233 Iteration
Boston


Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

James Cromie
 

Thanks Gerald.
I certainly could fly the ballooner free, but I’m looking for a larger surface area sail that will give greater range of AWA, as well as having a back up sail to the ballooner I have in case that were to blow apart…
I will likely have the sail made such that the foot of the sail is elevated off of the deck in order to clear the pulpit.

Alternatively, I could use a sock and rig the clew outboard of the pulpit, but I suspect I will end up not using it as much in that case.
A furler would allow me to quickly reel in the sail if the weather changes, as well as take it in at night and deploy in the morning.

-James

On May 29, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Gerald Bassin <gerald.bassin@...> wrote:

Quite right James
The issue here, is to get clear of the genoa forestay,motor and top swivel.
Then you have the pulpit to worry about with your downhaul...

and for Paul's question: would I do it again...?
well in the Med I used that sail quite a lot... not so in the Caribbean eventhough on the lee side of some island with light winds we just keep moving...

So I'm not quite sure as we had lots of problems before we got a working system...


Just have to pay attention when getting close to the channels and furl the anaconda in due time...

Rgrds to all

G
....
So why not use the ballooner without forestay then?


On 29/05/2019 17:21, James Cromie via Groups.Io wrote:
Thanks for the info. on your rig Gerald. Do you believe that the
top-down furler could be attached to the anchor point just above the
anchor in the pulpit and avoid using a bow sprit? If you did this, I
imagine you might need to elevate the furler mechanism with a 2:1
adjustable downhaul so that it could be raised to allow adequate
clearance from the gearbox housing.
Thanks,
James
On May 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Gerald Bassin <gerald.bassin@...> wrote:
Hi Paul
Here a few pics.
The bow sprit is a standard Selden product.
The "horse shoe" front attachement was custom made in Antigua after the Selden bolts of the original attachement broke during the Atlantic crossing (of course withe the sail up! but I confirm, the pullpit is solid and averted more damage).The Selden design does not allow for a lot of side forces I think.
The tail end box was also custom made in France to get the proper angle. It's basically a stainlesssteel box.
We have a port and a starbord halyard in order to clear the genoa top swivel. Huge chaffing problems before we arrived at that solution.
It is still possible to open the stbd lazarette and if we disconnect the aft end of the bow sprit, the acces to the cleat is granted.
The whole thing slides back out quite easily ro reduce LOA!!
The code D is attached to an anti torsion forestay so when it's rolled you have a kind of Anaconda which you can store in a 5-6ft sail bag.
Unfortunately during our last 4 season in the Caribbean (Dec-May), the wind was often to strong or from the wrong direction to use it...
Here also a link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7nPSdkYP98
Feel free to ask more questions !
Rgrds
Gerald
On 29/05/2019 14:04, Paul Osterberg wrote:
Gerald looks great
Do you have any pictures on the bow sprit? Who made it? We also want a
detachable, else one has to pay for it each time hauling out.
When the code D is furled how much space does it take? is it easy to
find storage for it?
assume you diesel consumption reduced since you got it?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259
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Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

Gerald Bassin
 

Quite right James
The issue here, is to get clear of the genoa forestay,motor and top swivel.
Then you have the pulpit to worry about with your downhaul...

and for Paul's question: would I do it again...?
well in the Med I used that sail quite a lot... not so in the Caribbean eventhough on the lee side of some island with light winds we just keep moving...

So I'm not quite sure as we had lots of problems before we got a working system...


Just have to pay attention when getting close to the channels and furl the anaconda in due time...

Rgrds to all

G
....
So why not use the ballooner without forestay then?

On 29/05/2019 17:21, James Cromie via Groups.Io wrote:
Thanks for the info. on your rig Gerald. Do you believe that the
top-down furler could be attached to the anchor point just above the
anchor in the pulpit and avoid using a bow sprit? If you did this, I
imagine you might need to elevate the furler mechanism with a 2:1
adjustable downhaul so that it could be raised to allow adequate
clearance from the gearbox housing.
Thanks,
James
On May 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Gerald Bassin <gerald.bassin@...> wrote:
Hi Paul
Here a few pics.
The bow sprit is a standard Selden product.
The "horse shoe" front attachement was custom made in Antigua after the Selden bolts of the original attachement broke during the Atlantic crossing (of course withe the sail up! but I confirm, the pullpit is solid and averted more damage).The Selden design does not allow for a lot of side forces I think.
The tail end box was also custom made in France to get the proper angle. It's basically a stainlesssteel box.
We have a port and a starbord halyard in order to clear the genoa top swivel. Huge chaffing problems before we arrived at that solution.
It is still possible to open the stbd lazarette and if we disconnect the aft end of the bow sprit, the acces to the cleat is granted.
The whole thing slides back out quite easily ro reduce LOA!!
The code D is attached to an anti torsion forestay so when it's rolled you have a kind of Anaconda which you can store in a 5-6ft sail bag.
Unfortunately during our last 4 season in the Caribbean (Dec-May), the wind was often to strong or from the wrong direction to use it...
Here also a link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7nPSdkYP98
Feel free to ask more questions !
Rgrds
Gerald
On 29/05/2019 14:04, Paul Osterberg wrote:
Gerald looks great
Do you have any pictures on the bow sprit? Who made it? We also want a
detachable, else one has to pay for it each time hauling out.
When the code D is furled how much space does it take? is it easy to
find storage for it?
assume you diesel consumption reduced since you got it?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259
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[2] https://groups.io/mt/31824213/1768002
[3] https://AmelYachtOwners.groups.io/g/main/post
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Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

James Cromie
 

Does anyone else on the forum use a top-down furling system for flying an asymmetric spinnaker or other down-wind sail?

I’d like to know if the systems can work well without adding a bow sprit.

Thank you all.

James
Soteria SM2K 347

On May 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Gerald Bassin <gerald.bassin@...> wrote:

Hi Paul

Here a few pics.
The bow sprit is a standard Selden product.

The "horse shoe" front attachement was custom made in Antigua after the Selden bolts of the original attachement broke during the Atlantic crossing (of course withe the sail up! but I confirm, the pullpit is solid and averted more damage).The Selden design does not allow for a lot of side forces I think.

The tail end box was also custom made in France to get the proper angle. It's basically a stainlesssteel box.

We have a port and a starbord halyard in order to clear the genoa top swivel. Huge chaffing problems before we arrived at that solution.

It is still possible to open the stbd lazarette and if we disconnect the aft end of the bow sprit, the acces to the cleat is granted.

The whole thing slides back out quite easily ro reduce LOA!!

The code D is attached to an anti torsion forestay so when it's rolled you have a kind of Anaconda which you can store in a 5-6ft sail bag.

Unfortunately during our last 4 season in the Caribbean (Dec-May), the wind was often to strong or from the wrong direction to use it...

Here also a link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7nPSdkYP98

Feel free to ask more questions !

Rgrds

Gerald



On 29/05/2019 14:04, Paul Osterberg wrote:
Gerald looks great
Do you have any pictures on the bow sprit? Who made it? We also want a
detachable, else one has to pay for it each time hauling out.
When the code D is furled how much space does it take? is it easy to
find storage for it?
assume you diesel consumption reduced since you got it?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259
Links:
------
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[2] https://groups.io/mt/31824213/1768002
[3] https://AmelYachtOwners.groups.io/g/main/post
[4] https://AmelYachtOwners.groups.io/g/main/editsub/1768002
[5] https://AmelYachtOwners.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged


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Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

James Cromie
 

Thanks for the info. on your rig Gerald. Do you believe that the top-down furler could be attached to the anchor point just above the anchor in the pulpit and avoid using a bow sprit? If you did this, I imagine you might need to elevate the furler mechanism with a 2:1 adjustable downhaul so that it could be raised to allow adequate clearance from the gearbox housing.

Thanks,
James

On May 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Gerald Bassin <gerald.bassin@...> wrote:

Hi Paul

Here a few pics.
The bow sprit is a standard Selden product.

The "horse shoe" front attachement was custom made in Antigua after the Selden bolts of the original attachement broke during the Atlantic crossing (of course withe the sail up! but I confirm, the pullpit is solid and averted more damage).The Selden design does not allow for a lot of side forces I think.

The tail end box was also custom made in France to get the proper angle. It's basically a stainlesssteel box.

We have a port and a starbord halyard in order to clear the genoa top swivel. Huge chaffing problems before we arrived at that solution.

It is still possible to open the stbd lazarette and if we disconnect the aft end of the bow sprit, the acces to the cleat is granted.

The whole thing slides back out quite easily ro reduce LOA!!

The code D is attached to an anti torsion forestay so when it's rolled you have a kind of Anaconda which you can store in a 5-6ft sail bag.

Unfortunately during our last 4 season in the Caribbean (Dec-May), the wind was often to strong or from the wrong direction to use it...

Here also a link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7nPSdkYP98

Feel free to ask more questions !

Rgrds

Gerald



On 29/05/2019 14:04, Paul Osterberg wrote:
Gerald looks great
Do you have any pictures on the bow sprit? Who made it? We also want a
detachable, else one has to pay for it each time hauling out.
When the code D is furled how much space does it take? is it easy to
find storage for it?
assume you diesel consumption reduced since you got it?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259
Links:
------
[1] https://AmelYachtOwners.groups.io/g/main/message/45978
[2] https://groups.io/mt/31824213/1768002
[3] https://AmelYachtOwners.groups.io/g/main/post
[4] https://AmelYachtOwners.groups.io/g/main/editsub/1768002
[5] https://AmelYachtOwners.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged


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Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you Gerard
I think by substituting the Selden aluminium tube with a SS one, strength in all direction will be improved.
How long does it protrude from the bow fittings? I discussed this with Selden and they recommend a water stay.
It involve  lot of money the whole thing, Furler, halyards, down haul, sheets, sail and bowsprit, I guess close to 10 000 Euoro, was it worth it? would you do it again?
Paul 


Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

Gerald Bassin
 

Hi Paul

Here a few pics.
The bow sprit is a standard Selden product.

The "horse shoe" front attachement was custom made in Antigua after the Selden bolts of the original attachement broke during the Atlantic crossing (of course withe the sail up! but I confirm, the pullpit is solid and averted more damage).The Selden design does not allow for a lot of side forces I think.

The tail end box was also custom made in France to get the proper angle. It's basically a stainlesssteel box.

We have a port and a starbord halyard in order to clear the genoa top swivel. Huge chaffing problems before we arrived at that solution.

It is still possible to open the stbd lazarette and if we disconnect the aft end of the bow sprit, the acces to the cleat is granted.

The whole thing slides back out quite easily ro reduce LOA!!

The code D is attached to an anti torsion forestay so when it's rolled you have a kind of Anaconda which you can store in a 5-6ft sail bag.

Unfortunately during our last 4 season in the Caribbean (Dec-May), the wind was often to strong or from the wrong direction to use it...

Here also a link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7nPSdkYP98

Feel free to ask more questions !

Rgrds

Gerald

On 29/05/2019 14:04, Paul Osterberg wrote:
Gerald looks great
Do you have any pictures on the bow sprit? Who made it? We also want a
detachable, else one has to pay for it each time hauling out.
When the code D is furled how much space does it take? is it easy to
find storage for it?
assume you diesel consumption reduced since you got it?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259
Links:
------
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[2] https://groups.io/mt/31824213/1768002
[3] https://AmelYachtOwners.groups.io/g/main/post
[4] https://AmelYachtOwners.groups.io/g/main/editsub/1768002
[5] https://AmelYachtOwners.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged


Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

Paul Osterberg
 

Gerald looks great
Do you have any pictures on the bow sprit? Who made it? We also want a detachable, else one has to pay for it each time hauling out.
When the code D is furled how much space does it take? is it easy to find storage for it? 
assume you diesel consumption reduced since you got it?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259


Re: Vetus Flexi coupling

Craig Briggs
 

Paul, 
Surprising the nylocs loosened - maybe nylocs AND locktite with a little bubble gum ;-)
Btw, for leverage when tightening, I use a long screwdriver under the coupling and over one of the bolts on the opposite side of the one I'm tightening. Have also used a chain wrench. Left the transmission in gear just to stabilize it a bit, but took most of the force with the screwdriver.
Don't recall the exact bolt size, but you can google the torque - M8 Class 10.9 for example is 40 Nm. 
Cheers, Craig, SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor 


locked Re: AMEL 55

 

Aldo,

Thank you very much for an experienced, knowledgeable, and balanced reply. Just as the Super Maramu was a huge departure from what was built as a blue water cruiser in 1985-2005, the 55 is certainly a departure from the SM.

The only true judge is someone who has owned both, and you eloquently said, "While it took me sometime to get used to the change and I missed the SM2000, (who doesn’t experience that after changing boats?), after four years, I am extremely pleased I made the move."  

I am going to lock this thread because I am sure we each love our Amel regardless of the Model and it makes no sense for us to continue because in continuing some will take offense. Please remember what we all agreed to: "We encourage you to support the Amel brand and be respectful to the brand in your postings. Care should be taken to not post anything that will be offensive to any Group Member. Please refrain from political issues, rude, or inappropriate language."
 
Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

Gerald Bassin
 

Hi Paul
I have a code D from Delta voiles on a removable bow sprit.and a set of blocks on above the genoa halyard block. Took us a lot of trial and error to get it working, but now it’s okay. The code D is 130m2. If you look at Jetlag on Marine traffic.com there is a pic of our sail. At 15 kts true wind we bring it down as the genoa is ok by then
Rgrds
Gerald 
Jetlag #113


On 28 May 2019, at 22:40, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:

I have thought of buying a Code Zero or general purpose genacker on a furler, Not to substitute the Baloner concept, which I think is superior down wind system for a smal crew, we run the twin head sail i.e. balooner for about a week on our Atlantic crossing east to west. We were lucky only a few squalls, but easy for one person to furl the twin head sail and unfurl when the squall is gone.  We think it is possible to run the twin head sail about +/-25 degree of dead down wind. But when light apparent wind from 90 to 145 degree I think a Code Zero on a furler would be an option, I would prefer to have it on a bow sprit to get it forward of the pulpit and a bit larger, but it will be a solution making big holes in my pocket. During This season, it is only on our voyage between Bahamas and Bermuda we missed such sail, but as we plan to go to the Pacific I think we might have more us of it there.
Paul on SY Kerpa AM#259 Bermuda
 


Re: Vetus Flexi coupling

Paul Osterberg
 

Danny, Craig
Do have nylock nuts, did change the whole units 2016 in Turkey, so hope it should be OK for now. Will have a lock at it when back in my home-port later coming fall.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Bermuda


Furling motor brushes

Kelly Ran
 

Hi all,

We recently needed to change the brushes on our main furling motor (Leroy Somer MBT86M).

I found an 8mm x 10mm x 17mm brush which works for us, so far. Unsure of the material but it looks similar to electrographite.

It seems that other owners have issues sourcing this brush, so here is the info:
Eurton Electric SPR-A007  
7.50USD, ships from California

We also found that Maude has some slightly different brushes (8mm x 9mm x 16mm) in stock right now for 24 Euros. We did not order these, as the Eurton brushes work.

Fair winds,
kelly + ryan
SM233 Iteration
Boston


Re: Genoa Fair Leads

Mark Erdos
 

Got it Ken. Thanks. Looks like the shop did a great job for you.


With best regards,

Mark

Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Panama
www.creampuff.us

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ken Powers SV Aquarius
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To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Genoa Fair Leads

I had to re-rig it after I pulled the main connection point out of the
boom. Sailed from from the Marquises to Tahiti like shown at the
start of the video. If you look closely you can see where it should
be connected. Now it's back to the same spot, better than original.

Ken

On 5/29/19, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:
Hi Ken,

Was the mainsheet on the boom rigged correctly to start with? It is hard to
tell on the video but it looks as though it was the forward thingy under the
boom that broke. We were warned when we purchased Cream Puff that only the
middle under-the-boom-thingy was designed to take the loads required.


Nice video!


With best regards,

Mark

Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Panama
www.creampuff.us

-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Ken Powers SV Aquarius
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:11 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Genoa Fair Leads

Hello,

I had to do this, and filmed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_XB5qfptqQ

Ken Powers
Aquarius SM2K #262


On 5/25/19, Capt. Steve Bode <@SVIntention> wrote:
Hey, Group.

What's the latest best answer on replacing the Genoa Fair Leads? My
springs
are broken, one wheel is chipped. Tried taking it apart, but can't figure
out how to get the pin out of the center once the eye bolts are removed.
Is
that center bar screwed in? At $750 a piece online, I'm not jazzed about
replacing the whole car.
Replacement car without extra hardware needed to adapt to Amel lead
system:
https://allpa-marine.com/antal-aluminum-stainless-steel-genua-maxi-car-40x8-with-sliding-inserts-172x60x166mm-lxwxh-weight-1-94kg-swl-safe-working-load-4800kg.html

Tags: Genoa Fair Lead, Genoa Track, Jib Car Lead, Jib fairlead, Genoa
Fairlead, Foresail Track


*Steve Bode, Captain of Sailing Vessel Intention*
Currently Drydocked at ANT Yat Servis
Bodrum Marina Teknik Servisler
Neyzen Tevfik Cad. No. 5
48400 Bodrum, Mulga, Turkiye

Amel Super Maramu #117 (1994)
svIntention.com <http://svintention.com/> Facebook.com/svIntention
<http://facebook.com/svIntention> YouTube.com/SailingVesselIntention
<http://youtube.com/SailingVesselIntention>
+1 415-710-6659 voice/text/whatsapp









Re: Genoa Fair Leads

 

Mark,

I had my eagle eye on it.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 4:39 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill. It was hard to tell in the vid.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:48 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Genoa Fair Leads

 

It was the middle one that he yanked out.

 

Best,

 

Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St.

Galveston, Texas 77550

832-380-4970

Image removed by sender.

 

 

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 2:43 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Hi Ken,

Was the mainsheet on the boom rigged correctly to start with? It is hard to tell on the video but it looks as though it was the forward thingy under the boom that broke. We were warned when we purchased Cream Puff that only the middle under-the-boom-thingy was designed to take the loads required.


Nice video!


With best regards,

Mark

Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Panama
www.creampuff.us

-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ken Powers SV Aquarius
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:11 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Genoa Fair Leads

Hello,

I had to do this, and filmed it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_XB5qfptqQ

Ken Powers
Aquarius SM2K #262


On 5/25/19, Capt. Steve Bode <whatsup@...> wrote:
> Hey, Group.
>
> What's the latest best answer on replacing the Genoa Fair Leads? My springs
> are broken, one wheel is chipped. Tried taking it apart, but can't figure
> out how to get the pin out of the center once the eye bolts are removed. Is
> that center bar screwed in? At $750 a piece online, I'm not jazzed about
> replacing the whole car.
> Replacement car without extra hardware needed to adapt to Amel lead system:
> https://allpa-marine.com/antal-aluminum-stainless-steel-genua-maxi-car-40x8-with-sliding-inserts-172x60x166mm-lxwxh-weight-1-94kg-swl-safe-working-load-4800kg.html
>
> Tags: Genoa Fair Lead, Genoa Track, Jib Car Lead, Jib fairlead, Genoa
> Fairlead, Foresail Track
>
>
> *Steve Bode, Captain of Sailing Vessel Intention*
> Currently Drydocked at ANT Yat Servis
> Bodrum Marina Teknik Servisler
> Neyzen Tevfik Cad. No. 5
> 48400 Bodrum, Mulga, Turkiye
>
> Amel Super Maramu #117 (1994)
> svIntention.com <http://svintention.com/> Facebook.com/svIntention
> <http://facebook.com/svIntention> YouTube.com/SailingVesselIntention
> <http://youtube.com/SailingVesselIntention>
> +1 415-710-6659 voice/text/whatsapp
>
>
>
>






Re: Genoa Fair Leads

Mark Erdos
 

Thanks Bill. It was hard to tell in the vid.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:48 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Genoa Fair Leads

 

It was the middle one that he yanked out.

 

Best,

 

Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St.

Galveston, Texas 77550

832-380-4970

Image removed by sender.

 

 

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 2:43 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Hi Ken,

Was the mainsheet on the boom rigged correctly to start with? It is hard to tell on the video but it looks as though it was the forward thingy under the boom that broke. We were warned when we purchased Cream Puff that only the middle under-the-boom-thingy was designed to take the loads required.


Nice video!


With best regards,

Mark

Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Panama
www.creampuff.us

-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ken Powers SV Aquarius
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:11 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Genoa Fair Leads

Hello,

I had to do this, and filmed it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_XB5qfptqQ

Ken Powers
Aquarius SM2K #262


On 5/25/19, Capt. Steve Bode <whatsup@...> wrote:
> Hey, Group.
>
> What's the latest best answer on replacing the Genoa Fair Leads? My springs
> are broken, one wheel is chipped. Tried taking it apart, but can't figure
> out how to get the pin out of the center once the eye bolts are removed. Is
> that center bar screwed in? At $750 a piece online, I'm not jazzed about
> replacing the whole car.
> Replacement car without extra hardware needed to adapt to Amel lead system:
> https://allpa-marine.com/antal-aluminum-stainless-steel-genua-maxi-car-40x8-with-sliding-inserts-172x60x166mm-lxwxh-weight-1-94kg-swl-safe-working-load-4800kg.html
>
> Tags: Genoa Fair Lead, Genoa Track, Jib Car Lead, Jib fairlead, Genoa
> Fairlead, Foresail Track
>
>
> *Steve Bode, Captain of Sailing Vessel Intention*
> Currently Drydocked at ANT Yat Servis
> Bodrum Marina Teknik Servisler
> Neyzen Tevfik Cad. No. 5
> 48400 Bodrum, Mulga, Turkiye
>
> Amel Super Maramu #117 (1994)
> svIntention.com <http://svintention.com/> Facebook.com/svIntention
> <http://facebook.com/svIntention> YouTube.com/SailingVesselIntention
> <http://youtube.com/SailingVesselIntention>
> +1 415-710-6659 voice/text/whatsapp
>
>
>
>






Re: Genoa Fair Leads

Ken Powers SV Aquarius
 

I had to re-rig it after I pulled the main connection point out of the
boom. Sailed from from the Marquises to Tahiti like shown at the
start of the video. If you look closely you can see where it should
be connected. Now it's back to the same spot, better than original.

Ken

On 5/29/19, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:
Hi Ken,

Was the mainsheet on the boom rigged correctly to start with? It is hard to
tell on the video but it looks as though it was the forward thingy under the
boom that broke. We were warned when we purchased Cream Puff that only the
middle under-the-boom-thingy was designed to take the loads required.


Nice video!


With best regards,

Mark

Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Panama
www.creampuff.us

-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Ken Powers SV Aquarius
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:11 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Genoa Fair Leads

Hello,

I had to do this, and filmed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_XB5qfptqQ

Ken Powers
Aquarius SM2K #262


On 5/25/19, Capt. Steve Bode <@SVIntention> wrote:
Hey, Group.

What's the latest best answer on replacing the Genoa Fair Leads? My
springs
are broken, one wheel is chipped. Tried taking it apart, but can't figure
out how to get the pin out of the center once the eye bolts are removed.
Is
that center bar screwed in? At $750 a piece online, I'm not jazzed about
replacing the whole car.
Replacement car without extra hardware needed to adapt to Amel lead
system:
https://allpa-marine.com/antal-aluminum-stainless-steel-genua-maxi-car-40x8-with-sliding-inserts-172x60x166mm-lxwxh-weight-1-94kg-swl-safe-working-load-4800kg.html

Tags: Genoa Fair Lead, Genoa Track, Jib Car Lead, Jib fairlead, Genoa
Fairlead, Foresail Track


*Steve Bode, Captain of Sailing Vessel Intention*
Currently Drydocked at ANT Yat Servis
Bodrum Marina Teknik Servisler
Neyzen Tevfik Cad. No. 5
48400 Bodrum, Mulga, Turkiye

Amel Super Maramu #117 (1994)
svIntention.com <http://svintention.com/> Facebook.com/svIntention
<http://facebook.com/svIntention> YouTube.com/SailingVesselIntention
<http://youtube.com/SailingVesselIntention>
+1 415-710-6659 voice/text/whatsapp