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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Micron 66 Caribbean experience

Ian Townsend
 

Just a caution. I had to paint in the US after using Islands 44 in the Caribbean. On Seahawk's advice, I applied SeaHawk Biocop with a primer coat over Islands 44 (which was fantastic). It was a disaster. Copper-based paint will not adhere properly to a tin- based paint, regardless of primer. I had to strip everything off and start anew. 

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, USA

On Dec 14, 2018, at 4:15 PM, Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

You can also buy Seahawk 44 (much better & not available in the states))  in the in the Caribbean. Golden Hind in Tortola has it.  Also available in Trinidad. I get 4 years of use with it without a lot of cleaning.  The Seahawk 44 TF is sold in the states and can applied over the standard Seahawk 44. Excellent bottom paint.

Ric Gottschalk

Bali Hai SN 24

Annapolis

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 11:41 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Micron 66 Caribbean experience

 

 

How many gallons of paint does it take for two coats generally and a third coat at the waterline?  For Biocop TF, Seahawk specifies 331 sf/gallon, so at 53' by an average of 12 feet (my guess) it would be 636sf/coat.  That would be two gallons per coat, so a total of 5 gallons?

 

Seahawk recommended Biocop TF for both hard and soft growth in the Caribbean, and it will paint over the Seahawk CuKote I have now.  They recommend this as an improvement over the Islands 77.

 

It appears to be available at Budget Marine, so it seems I don't need to buy it in the States and carry it down to the Carib.  Can anyone comment on paint availability down there?

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

Courtney Gorman
 

Excellent advice from Bill there will always be repair’s but a well used boat is generally in better condition than a long ‘rested ‘ one
Cheers 🍻

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

greatketch@...
 

Since this disaster of a boat has a listing on Yachtworld, we'll probably keep being asked about it.

I have already had two people ask me about it outside the forum, and gave them basically the same answer Bill R did, although I might have been a touch less colorful in my language.

Just say "NO" to trashed boats.

If you are in the market for a boat, please consider the following.  Like all "rules" there are always exceptions, but I firmly believe there is more truth to this than not...

I used to give a very popular seminar on "how to buy a boat."  Here is one short except from it on the topic of "cheap" boats....

Bill's Fourth Rule of Boat Buying Happiness: Spend more and get a bargain.


You likely would not believe this if you heard it from a yacht broker trying to sell you a boat. If you hear it from me, hopefully you accept it as containing more than a grain of truth.


It is a little understood, and rarely articulated, fact that the REAL bargains in the boat world are closer to the top of the market than the bottom.  Why?  Boat buying in the internet age is very close to a world-wide market.  Boats in poor condition drive down the price of those in excellent shape.  


Boat repairs are very expensive and time consuming, And they are famously difficult to forecast--even for experts.  The cost of repairs are NEVER properly deducted from the price of the derelict or neglected boat.  In the same way, all the work, time, love, care, and MONEY that were put into the top-shelf, super Bristol, best of her type, boat are never recovered in the final sale. Spend $50,000 on a 50 foot boat, you will probably have bought yourself a money pit nightmare that will haunt you for years.  Spend the same money on a 35 foot boat, and you might just have a new sweetheart.


Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Fort Lauderdale, Fl, USA

Days away from sailing away... We hope!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

james Hosford
 

Thanks Bill!!!!


On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Sorry, I left off the words, "in my opinion.."

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 17:08 Bill Rouse <brouse@... wrote:
Yashar is absolutely the worst repair of a twice totaled Amel on this planet. It doesn't have Amel masts and the bulkheads are cracked behind the sloppy repair job. 

Survey, Ha!

Forget about it.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 16:57 Jay Hosford jay.hosford@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Yashar is the current name ,  located in MD


On Dec 15, 2018, at 3:42 PM, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Jay,
   I would be very very concerned.  Yes the boat could be ok, but if the damage occurred at a sensitive spot is cannot really be brought back to spec.  

Fiberglass repairs can make anything look new again but cannot replace the strength of the original piece....might get close but not equal.

The Amel rig is by design bakery high tension setup.. It applies a lot of tension on to the hull....on purpose mind you, which helps stablize to whole  affair.  If say a bit of the hull near a chain plate were compromised that spot become a weak spot where the rig could fail.  Loosening the rig to compensate ruins the integrity of the rig design setting you up for rig failure.

I suggest you inquire with Olivier Beaute to examine the damage/repair before going forward. 

I hope this is not the Amel formally known as PAPA II?

Regards,. John

SV ANNIE SM 37
Carriacou.

On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 5:09 PM Jay Hosford jay.hosford@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 


If it had good repairs and a survey how concerned would you be?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

james Hosford
 

To many boats out there fo 2 without those major problems



On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:21 PM, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Jay, that is PAPA II.  She floats.. is about all I can say 

She was reportedly crushed when another boat fell on her in the yard.  Later she got stuck on a rock jetty and had the keel ballast.. along with the bottom of the water talk torn off.  
The repair on the keel left her with a keel 6" shorter than spec.


On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 5:57 PM Jay Hosford jay.hosford@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Yashar is the current name ,  located in MD


On Dec 15, 2018, at 3:42 PM, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Jay,
   I would be very very concerned.  Yes the boat could be ok, but if the damage occurred at a sensitive spot is cannot really be brought back to spec.  

Fiberglass repairs can make anything look new again but cannot replace the strength of the original piece....might get close but not equal.

The Amel rig is by design bakery high tension setup.. It applies a lot of tension on to the hull....on purpose mind you, which helps stablize to whole  affair.  If say a bit of the hull near a chain plate were compromised that spot become a weak spot where the rig could fail.  Loosening the rig to compensate ruins the integrity of the rig design setting you up for rig failure.

I suggest you inquire with Olivier Beaute to examine the damage/repair before going forward. 

I hope this is not the Amel formally known as PAPA II?

Regards,. John

SV ANNIE SM 37
Carriacou.

On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 5:09 PM Jay Hosford jay.hosford@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 


If it had good repairs and a survey how concerned would you be?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

 

I can't believe this twice totaled and poorly repaired ex-Amel keeps popping up! 

Regrettably, someone will buy this wreck based on the reputation of Amel, only to find it is not really an Amel anymore. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 17:21 John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Jay, that is PAPA II.  She floats.. is about all I can say 

She was reportedly crushed when another boat fell on her in the yard.  Later she got stuck on a rock jetty and had the keel ballast.. along with the bottom of the water talk torn off.  
The repair on the keel left her with a keel 6" shorter than spec.


On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 5:57 PM Jay Hosford jay.hosford@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Yashar is the current name ,  located in MD


On Dec 15, 2018, at 3:42 PM, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Jay,
   I would be very very concerned.  Yes the boat could be ok, but if the damage occurred at a sensitive spot is cannot really be brought back to spec.  

Fiberglass repairs can make anything look new again but cannot replace the strength of the original piece....might get close but not equal.

The Amel rig is by design bakery high tension setup.. It applies a lot of tension on to the hull....on purpose mind you, which helps stablize to whole  affair.  If say a bit of the hull near a chain plate were compromised that spot become a weak spot where the rig could fail.  Loosening the rig to compensate ruins the integrity of the rig design setting you up for rig failure.

I suggest you inquire with Olivier Beaute to examine the damage/repair before going forward. 

I hope this is not the Amel formally known as PAPA II?

Regards,. John

SV ANNIE SM 37
Carriacou.

On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 5:09 PM Jay Hosford jay.hosford@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 


If it had good repairs and a survey how concerned would you be?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

John Clark
 

I love it Bill!


On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 6:22 PM Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Sorry, I left off the words, "in my opinion.."

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 17:08 Bill Rouse <brouse@... wrote:
Yashar is absolutely the worst repair of a twice totaled Amel on this planet. It doesn't have Amel masts and the bulkheads are cracked behind the sloppy repair job. 

Survey, Ha!

Forget about it.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 16:57 Jay Hosford jay.hosford@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Yashar is the current name ,  located in MD


On Dec 15, 2018, at 3:42 PM, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Jay,
   I would be very very concerned.  Yes the boat could be ok, but if the damage occurred at a sensitive spot is cannot really be brought back to spec.  

Fiberglass repairs can make anything look new again but cannot replace the strength of the original piece....might get close but not equal.

The Amel rig is by design bakery high tension setup.. It applies a lot of tension on to the hull....on purpose mind you, which helps stablize to whole  affair.  If say a bit of the hull near a chain plate were compromised that spot become a weak spot where the rig could fail.  Loosening the rig to compensate ruins the integrity of the rig design setting you up for rig failure.

I suggest you inquire with Olivier Beaute to examine the damage/repair before going forward. 

I hope this is not the Amel formally known as PAPA II?

Regards,. John

SV ANNIE SM 37
Carriacou.

On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 5:09 PM Jay Hosford jay.hosford@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 


If it had good repairs and a survey how concerned would you be?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

 

Sorry, I left off the words, "in my opinion."

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 17:08 Bill Rouse <brouse@... wrote:
Yashar is absolutely the worst repair of a twice totaled Amel on this planet. It doesn't have Amel masts and the bulkheads are cracked behind the sloppy repair job. 

Survey, Ha!

Forget about it.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 16:57 Jay Hosford jay.hosford@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Yashar is the current name ,  located in MD


On Dec 15, 2018, at 3:42 PM, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Jay,
   I would be very very concerned.  Yes the boat could be ok, but if the damage occurred at a sensitive spot is cannot really be brought back to spec.  

Fiberglass repairs can make anything look new again but cannot replace the strength of the original piece....might get close but not equal.

The Amel rig is by design bakery high tension setup.. It applies a lot of tension on to the hull....on purpose mind you, which helps stablize to whole  affair.  If say a bit of the hull near a chain plate were compromised that spot become a weak spot where the rig could fail.  Loosening the rig to compensate ruins the integrity of the rig design setting you up for rig failure.

I suggest you inquire with Olivier Beaute to examine the damage/repair before going forward. 

I hope this is not the Amel formally known as PAPA II?

Regards,. John

SV ANNIE SM 37
Carriacou.

On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 5:09 PM Jay Hosford jay.hosford@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 


If it had good repairs and a survey how concerned would you be?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

John Clark
 

Jay, that is PAPA II.  She floats.. is about all I can say 

She was reportedly crushed when another boat fell on her in the yard.  Later she got stuck on a rock jetty and had the keel ballast.. along with the bottom of the water talk torn off.  
The repair on the keel left her with a keel 6" shorter than spec.


On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 5:57 PM Jay Hosford jay.hosford@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Yashar is the current name ,  located in MD


On Dec 15, 2018, at 3:42 PM, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Jay,
   I would be very very concerned.  Yes the boat could be ok, but if the damage occurred at a sensitive spot is cannot really be brought back to spec.  

Fiberglass repairs can make anything look new again but cannot replace the strength of the original piece....might get close but not equal.

The Amel rig is by design bakery high tension setup.. It applies a lot of tension on to the hull....on purpose mind you, which helps stablize to whole  affair.  If say a bit of the hull near a chain plate were compromised that spot become a weak spot where the rig could fail.  Loosening the rig to compensate ruins the integrity of the rig design setting you up for rig failure.

I suggest you inquire with Olivier Beaute to examine the damage/repair before going forward. 

I hope this is not the Amel formally known as PAPA II?

Regards,. John

SV ANNIE SM 37
Carriacou.

On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 5:09 PM Jay Hosford jay.hosford@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 


If it had good repairs and a survey how concerned would you be?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

 

Yashar is absolutely the worst repair of a twice totaled Amel on this planet. It doesn't have Amel masts and the bulkheads are cracked behind the sloppy repair job. 

Survey, Ha!

Forget about it.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 16:57 Jay Hosford jay.hosford@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Yashar is the current name ,  located in MD


On Dec 15, 2018, at 3:42 PM, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Jay,
   I would be very very concerned.  Yes the boat could be ok, but if the damage occurred at a sensitive spot is cannot really be brought back to spec.  

Fiberglass repairs can make anything look new again but cannot replace the strength of the original piece....might get close but not equal.

The Amel rig is by design bakery high tension setup.. It applies a lot of tension on to the hull....on purpose mind you, which helps stablize to whole  affair.  If say a bit of the hull near a chain plate were compromised that spot become a weak spot where the rig could fail.  Loosening the rig to compensate ruins the integrity of the rig design setting you up for rig failure.

I suggest you inquire with Olivier Beaute to examine the damage/repair before going forward. 

I hope this is not the Amel formally known as PAPA II?

Regards,. John

SV ANNIE SM 37
Carriacou.

On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 5:09 PM Jay Hosford jay.hosford@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 


If it had good repairs and a survey how concerned would you be?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

james Hosford
 

Yashar is the current name ,  located in MD


On Dec 15, 2018, at 3:42 PM, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Jay,
   I would be very very concerned.  Yes the boat could be ok, but if the damage occurred at a sensitive spot is cannot really be brought back to spec.  

Fiberglass repairs can make anything look new again but cannot replace the strength of the original piece....might get close but not equal.

The Amel rig is by design bakery high tension setup.. It applies a lot of tension on to the hull....on purpose mind you, which helps stablize to whole  affair.  If say a bit of the hull near a chain plate were compromised that spot become a weak spot where the rig could fail.  Loosening the rig to compensate ruins the integrity of the rig design setting you up for rig failure.

I suggest you inquire with Olivier Beaute to examine the damage/repair before going forward. 

I hope this is not the Amel formally known as PAPA II?

Regards,. John

SV ANNIE SM 37
Carriacou.

On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 5:09 PM Jay Hosford jay.hosford@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 


If it had good repairs and a survey how concerned would you be?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sm fell off cradel

james Hosford
 

Its on yacht world now for 199.   2001.  I think I've seen it before.   It passed survey after the fact well enough to have a loan grated for it previously.   Maybe if she has bee back to see for a while and passed a few surveys since? 


On Dec 15, 2018, at 3:32 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I've never had a marine experience like that so I can only fall back on my structural engineering background.  There are a LOT of ways that there could be hidden damage that only surfaces after some hard sailing.


All of the bulkheads and the hull to deck joint are joined by fiberglass.  These joints are not exposed to careful inspection and are the place where you could have damage.  If one or more of these bulkhead/deck to hull joints are damaged but not to the point where there is visible movement, the joint is nonetheless damaged and does not have the same strength or resistance to fatigue it originally had.  The keel is joined to the keel stub by keel bolts.  The keel stub and the hull structure it's attached to took a very heavy hit as the 16 tons of boat landed on it.  How careful, complete and thorough were the inspection and repairs?  After some hard sailing or years of sailing the now over-stressed joints or structure can fail, or result in excessive movement or leaks.

Did they remove everything in the vicinity of the impact (all furniture, cabinets, wall coverings, flooring, etc.) to permit a careful inspection and/or reinforcement?  If so perhaps you might feel you're covered if the people doing the work can be trusted or someone you hired was there inspecting.  Keep in mind it's always easier and cheaper to cover up than to expose and repair, especially if you plan to sell the boat.

Is there a good chance all is well, sure...maybe.  Personally I would not take the chance unless the level of risk (as you view it) is seriously reflected in the sales price and you are willing to take on the risk with eyes wide open.  Maybe if you plan on only coastal sailing?

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

John Clark
 

Hi Jay,
   I would be very very concerned.  Yes the boat could be ok, but if the damage occurred at a sensitive spot is cannot really be brought back to spec.  

Fiberglass repairs can make anything look new again but cannot replace the strength of the original piece....might get close but not equal.

The Amel rig is by design bakery high tension setup. It applies a lot of tension on to the hull....on purpose mind you, which helps stablize to whole  affair.  If say a bit of the hull near a chain plate were compromised that spot become a weak spot where the rig could fail.  Loosening the rig to compensate ruins the integrity of the rig design setting you up for rig failure.

I suggest you inquire with Olivier Beaute to examine the damage/repair before going forward. 

I hope this is not the Amel formally known as PAPA II?

Regards,. John

SV ANNIE SM 37
Carriacou.

On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 5:09 PM Jay Hosford jay.hosford@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 


If it had good repairs and a survey how concerned would you be?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

amelforme
 

I went through my emails from the Amel Yahoo group and could not find the message describing the Super Maramu that fell off a cradle. Could someone please forward it to me?  Jfpottercys” at” att.net

 

          Thanks, Joel

 

          JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                   Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485                                                 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 3:28 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

 

 

Very.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 5:09 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

 

 


If it had good repairs and a survey how concerned would you be?

Re: Sm fell off cradel

Duane Siegfri
 

I've never had a marine experience like that so I can only fall back on my structural engineering background.  There are a LOT of ways that there could be hidden damage that only surfaces after some hard sailing.

All of the bulkheads and the hull to deck joint are joined by fiberglass.  These joints are not exposed to careful inspection and are the place where you could have damage.  If one or more of these bulkhead/deck to hull joints are damaged but not to the point where there is visible movement, the joint is nonetheless damaged and does not have the same strength or resistance to fatigue it originally had.  The keel is joined to the keel stub by keel bolts.  The keel stub and the hull structure it's attached to took a very heavy hit as the 16 tons of boat landed on it.  How careful, complete and thorough were the inspection and repairs?  After some hard sailing or years of sailing the now over-stressed joints or structure can fail, or result in excessive movement or leaks.

Did they remove everything in the vicinity of the impact (all furniture, cabinets, wall coverings, flooring, etc.) to permit a careful inspection and/or reinforcement?  If so perhaps you might feel you're covered if the people doing the work can be trusted or someone you hired was there inspecting.  Keep in mind it's always easier and cheaper to cover up than to expose and repair, especially if you plan to sell the boat.

Is there a good chance all is well, sure...maybe.  Personally I would not take the chance unless the level of risk (as you view it) is seriously reflected in the sales price and you are willing to take on the risk with eyes wide open.  Maybe if you plan on only coastal sailing?

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Yahoo Group Amel Register

Alan Leslie
 

Well, all the information in my sheet was extracted from the messages on the forum
Files and messages on the forum are only available to forum members...
But if folks are that concerned about security, don't do it.
If your list is better than mine, which you say it is, let's use that......put it up so we can see it.

Alan
Elyse SM437

Sm fell off cradel

james Hosford
 

If it had good repairs and a survey how concerned would you be?

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

Mark Erdos
 

PM sent

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 5:37 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

 

 

I went through my emails from the Amel Yahoo group and could not find the message describing the Super Maramu that fell off a cradle. Could someone please forward it to me?  Jfpottercys” at” att.net

 

          Thanks, Joel

 

          JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

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From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 3:28 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

 

 

Very.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 5:09 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sm fell off cradel

 

 


If it had good repairs and a survey how concerned would you be?

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Yahoo Group Amel Register

Alin SM 283
 

Hi Alan. Great idea, thank you.
My boat : Wanderer, SM 2k, hull 283, Whangaroa NZ
Owner Alin Misescu
Come for a visit , my number is 0220299786.
Regards
Alin 


On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 at 20:40, pepinoamel
wrote:
 

Hi Alan,

Thanks for starting the list.  I think it's a good idea, in case we meet some Amel owners on the water, we'll know who they are.  I've tried to add my boat to your list but I can only do that in my own file.  You might have to add it on the Forum.  My boat is SM381 Pepino, UK flag, owner Gerhard Hoffmann.


Thanks.


Gerhard Hoffmann

SM381 Pepino

Greece