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Re: Opua meeting.

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hi Danny,

Put some beer in your fridge

:-)



On 14 Mar 2019, at 11:37, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Good to see you too JP. Hope you make it to mill bay. The club there does a great dinner Friday nights, and and we live there 

Regards

Danny

On 14 March 2019 at 11:26 Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

Hello Danny,

Thread drift....

Nice to meet you this morning.

Enjoy your northerly sail.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM 007
Opua, NZ

 

On 14 Mar 2019, at 11:15, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote:

Hi Paul. This is the perfect type of repair for a hand moldable epoxy. The one I use is emerkit from my local plumber. There are others available from chandleries  It will adhere to wet surfaces. It is in two parts. Take equal quantities of each and work them thoroughly together and apply 

 SailWorks very well and lasts well.

Regards

Ce to Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 14 March 2019 at 05:38 Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown < yafohi@...> wrote:

Bill,

That's the one, and yes mine is connected to the bonding system.

I have no experience using epoxy for repairs but was thinking about taking it to a welder to repair the hole - would this in your opinion be a workable solution?

You mention ordering a new part from SAV@... - sorry, don't know who that is.

--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


 


 


Opua meeting.

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Good to see you too JP. Hope you make it to mill bay. The club there does a great dinner Friday nights, and and we live there 

Regards

Danny

On 14 March 2019 at 11:26 Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

Hello Danny,

Thread drift....

Nice to meet you this morning.

Enjoy your northerly sail.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM 007
Opua, NZ

 

On 14 Mar 2019, at 11:15, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote:

Hi Paul. This is the perfect type of repair for a hand moldable epoxy. The one I use is emerkit from my local plumber. There are others available from chandleries  It will adhere to wet surfaces. It is in two parts. Take equal quantities of each and work them thoroughly together and apply 

 SailWorks very well and lasts well.

Regards

Ce to Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 14 March 2019 at 05:38 Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown < yafohi@...> wrote:

Bill,

That's the one, and yes mine is connected to the bonding system.

I have no experience using epoxy for repairs but was thinking about taking it to a welder to repair the hole - would this in your opinion be a workable solution?

You mention ordering a new part from SAV@... - sorry, don't know who that is.

--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


 


 


Re: Discharge manifold repair/replacement

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello Danny,

Thread drift....

Nice to meet you this morning.

Enjoy your northerly sail.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM 007
Opua, NZ


On 14 Mar 2019, at 11:15, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Paul. This is the perfect type of repair for a hand moldable epoxy. The one I use is emerkit from my local plumber. There are others available from chandleries  It will adhere to wet surfaces. It is in two parts. Take equal quantities of each and work them thoroughly together and apply 

 SailWorks very well and lasts well.

Regards

Ce to Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 14 March 2019 at 05:38 Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <yafohi@...> wrote:

Bill,

That's the one, and yes mine is connected to the bonding system.

I have no experience using epoxy for repairs but was thinking about taking it to a welder to repair the hole - would this in your opinion be a workable solution?

You mention ordering a new part from SAV@... - sorry, don't know who that is.

--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Discharge manifold repair/replacement

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Paul. This is the perfect type of repair for a hand moldable epoxy. The one I use is emerkit from my local plumber. There are others available from chandleries  It will adhere to wet surfaces. It is in two parts. Take equal quantities of each and work them thoroughly together and apply 

Works very well and lasts well.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 14 March 2019 at 05:38 Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <yafohi@...> wrote:

Bill,

That's the one, and yes mine is connected to the bonding system.

I have no experience using epoxy for repairs but was thinking about taking it to a welder to repair the hole - would this in your opinion be a workable solution?

You mention ordering a new part from SAV@... - sorry, don't know who that is.

--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Gross tonnage on SM

Patrick McAneny
 

I should have mentioned that I knew tonnage was not the weight of the boat ,but a volume measurement . Still it seemed high and apparently that is the case and I will have it changed. Thanks for the correct numbers.
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Re: Amel Martinique Rally Update...ya'll come

 

Peter,

I have you confirmed. Thanks, you will enjoy it.



Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 3:41 PM Peter godwin via Groups.Io <pierre467=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill
Please add Borador to your confirmed list
Best
Peter Godwin 


On 14 Feb 2019, at 00:02, Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

As of today we have 12 confirmed, 5 possible for a total of 17 confirmed and possible...we are still short of the goal of 20 confirmed
   
Confirmed 12
P Possible 5
U Unknown 1
Confirmed & Possible 17

More information on the website at: https://theamelschool.blogspot.com/p/amel-eastern-caribbean-rally-2019.html 
--
 
Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Amel School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: Amel Martinique Rally Update...ya'll come

Peter godwin
 

Hi Bill
Please add Borador to your confirmed list
Best
Peter Godwin 


On 14 Feb 2019, at 00:02, Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

As of today we have 12 confirmed, 5 possible for a total of 17 confirmed and possible...we are still short of the goal of 20 confirmed
   
Confirmed 12
P Possible 5
U Unknown 1
Confirmed & Possible 17

More information on the website at: https://theamelschool.blogspot.com/p/amel-eastern-caribbean-rally-2019.html 
--
 
Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Amel School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: Gross tonnage on SM

 

Heinz,

That is the weight of the vessel, not the GT (Gross Tonnage) or NT Net Tonnage.

Unfortunately, most countries use GT and NT on recreational vessel registration, confusing most of us.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 3:24 PM heinz@... <heinz@...> wrote:


My sm2000 says 14t netto 16t groß
Fair Winds
Heinz sm2000 292


> Am 13.03.2019 um 11:40 schrieb Ian <parkianj@...>:
>
> Craig
> My Santorin has a big brass plate that says net tonnage is 15 and 1/4 and gross tonnage is 18+. But the spelling is tons.
> I know it refers to capacity, but I don’t know if there is a difference in where it was measured.
> In metric tonnes the Santorin is 10 tonnes.
> I give up !
> Incidentally my Part 1 registration has the boat length at 12.3 metres ( rather than the 14 that it is). It has saved me money several times when a marina has just asked for my registration certificate!
>
> Ian
>
> Ocean Hobo
>
>
>




Re: Gross tonnage on SM

heinz@quetzal.berlin <heinz@...>
 

My sm2000 says 14t netto 16t groß
Fair Winds
Heinz sm2000 292

Am 13.03.2019 um 11:40 schrieb Ian <parkianj@...>:

Craig
My Santorin has a big brass plate that says net tonnage is 15 and 1/4 and gross tonnage is 18+. But the spelling is tons.
I know it refers to capacity, but I don’t know if there is a difference in where it was measured.
In metric tonnes the Santorin is 10 tonnes.
I give up !
Incidentally my Part 1 registration has the boat length at 12.3 metres ( rather than the 14 that it is). It has saved me money several times when a marina has just asked for my registration certificate!

Ian

Ocean Hobo



Re: Gross tonnage on SM

 

Pat,

The terms Gross Tonnage and Net Tonnage are terms that were invented by I believe the British Royal Navy. They are calculated numbers that should tell you how much cargo a vessel is capable of carrying. These terms have little to do with weight of the vessel. 
 
Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:10 AM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
We checked in yesterday here in Montserrat and were charged ,based on gross tonnage,this has happened on other island as well. I think we are paying more than we should,because I believe our ship papers are wrong. Our papers show gross tonnage to be 58 GRT ,net 46 NRT. That sounds high to me,could someone confirm the correct tonnage?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Re: Gross tonnage on SM

Ian Park
 

Craig
My Santorin has a big brass plate that says net tonnage is 15 and 1/4 and gross tonnage is 18+. But the spelling is tons.
I know it refers to capacity, but I don’t know if there is a difference in where it was measured.
In metric tonnes the Santorin is 10 tonnes.
I give up !
Incidentally my Part 1 registration has the boat length at 12.3 metres ( rather than the 14 that it is). It has saved me money several times when a marina has just asked for my registration certificate!

Ian

Ocean Hobo


Re: Amel Euros 41

 

David,

Welcome to our group! I hope that you enjoy it as much as I do.

I have been thinking about your question and trying to formulate a short easy answer, but regrettably I have failed.

There are so many things to consider like:
  1. The definition of "well cared for." I have been on an Amel that was reportedly "well cared for," but it really was not well cared for...it was abused.
  2. The fact that boat builders didn't really figure out how to combat osmosis until the mid 80s...Amel was the first.
  3. The high probability that over the years and owners, that Amel has been modified, maybe right, maybe wrong
I think that the very best thing that could happen is that you have someone who has owned this vintage of Amel at your side as you inspect the boat. You might be surprised. I have found most members of this group willing to help when they can. Maybe your posting can be a little more forward and get specific about the Amel that you are considering and where it is located. There may be a member of this group with that vintage experience and willing to provide more. There may even be a member who is familiar with that specific Amel.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 4:50 AM DavidS <stalrozenhof@...> wrote:
Hello, I'm new to the forum so i want to appologize if I post in a wrong group.
The question I have is: I am interested in buying an Amel Euros 41, build in 1975, well taking care of for all these years. But I'm curious if there are some specific points that have to be looked after. I have a general idea what to check out but it is a general idea suiting all sailing vessels.

Kind regards,

David


Re: Discharge manifold repair/replacement

 

I think a welder would repair with lead, which will be fine. Be sure to inspect for any other corrosion or electrolysis. And be sure that the copper is unpainted and shiny where the bonding wire connects. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019, 11:38 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <yafohi@...> wrote:
Bill,

That's the one, and yes mine is connected to the bonding system.

I have no experience using epoxy for repairs but was thinking about taking it to a welder to repair the hole - would this in your opinion be a workable solution?

You mention ordering a new part from SAV@... - sorry, don't know who that is.

--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Discharge manifold repair/replacement

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Bill,

That's the one, and yes mine is connected to the bonding system.

I have no experience using epoxy for repairs but was thinking about taking it to a welder to repair the hole - would this in your opinion be a workable solution?

You mention ordering a new part from SAV@... - sorry, don't know who that is.

--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Gross tonnage on SM

Jamie Wendell
 

Wow Pat that seems really high. I see Bill responded as well, but I can tell you with my Amel 54 my documentation shows 23 and 20 respectively. I would guess the 54 is a bit heavier and probably a bit more voluminous.
So I am surprised either way - maybe I am lucky? I do know that I weigh in at about 47,000 pounds.
Was nice to see you in Les Saintes.
Jamie
Phantom, A54


Re: Discharge manifold repair/replacement

 

Paul,

I think that you are describing the manifold which I circled in red below. If this is what you are describing, I suggest a temporary repair and ordering a new part from SAV@.... For a temporary repair, clean the area of the holel and use 2-part epoxy. I believe that this is a custom part made by Amel and made out of copper. I notice in my photo that it appears to NOT be connected to the Amel Bonding system. If yours is the same and not connected, I suggest connecting it to the nearby ball valve which I see a yellow/green bonding wire attached. Let me know if your copper manifold is NOT connected (bonded).

image.png

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:47 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <yafohi@...> wrote:
Ah, sorry, it's the one that takes the bilge, fridge and water maker discharges.

--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Discharge manifold repair/replacement

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Ah, sorry, it's the one that takes the bilge, fridge and water maker discharges.

--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Discharge manifold repair/replacement

 

Paul,

I am not clear...Volvo, Onan, something else?

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:04 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <yafohi@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I have a hole in my water discharge manifold which is currently bound with some bicycle inner tube as a temporary repair. Ideally I'd like to replace it with a stainless one but here in Grenada I cannot find anywhere to get metric stainless tubing. It looks like the existing one is made of brass - can someone confirm? Perhaps I can just get the hole welded up  - any advise on this? I am a bit worried in case the hole gets bigger or others develop as the boat is now 11 years old.

Cheers,
Paul

Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Discharge manifold repair/replacement

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Hi all,

I have a hole in my water discharge manifold which is currently bound with some bicycle inner tube as a temporary repair. Ideally I'd like to replace it with a stainless one but here in Grenada I cannot find anywhere to get metric stainless tubing. It looks like the existing one is made of brass - can someone confirm? Perhaps I can just get the hole welded up  - any advise on this? I am a bit worried in case the hole gets bigger or others develop as the boat is now 11 years old.

Cheers,
Paul

Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Gross tonnage on SM

 
Edited

Pat,

Your SM Gross Tonnage is: 27GRT
Net Tonnage is 24GRT
You should get your Certificate of Documentation changed to below.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019, 7:10 AM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
We checked in yesterday here in Montserrat and were charged ,based on gross tonnage,this has happened on other island as well. I think we are paying more than we should,because I believe our ship papers are wrong. Our papers show gross tonnage to be 58 GRT ,net 46 NRT. That sounds high to me,could someone confirm the correct tonnage?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans