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Re: Any SM owners use a Beta engine??

RICHARD MIDDLETON <middleton@...>
 

Ok I’m not an Amel owner, maybe one day! But i had a Beta 60 fitted to my HR Rasmus 10 years ago. I’m very happy with it and would do the same again. The point I’d like to emphasise is that I had great support from Beta by talking to them at the factory. They answered my worries and made suggestions. Ring them or email them.
regards Richard


Re: Am I the only one so stupid?

Gerhard Mueller
 

When refilling I drop the level pipe into the close position and block it. I need some strength to push it down and block it because I have equipped the level pipe with an o-ring seal which presses now against the outer pipe and so no water can come out from the small space between the 2 tubes. Very simple solution.
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece


Re: Batteries: single failed battery in the house bank, impact for other batteries

Alan Leslie
 

David.
I think it highly likely that the AGM start battery is not in the same state of charge as the house bank AGMs that have been charged quite differently. 
All house bank batteries should be the same brand, type and age to minimise differences in charging. Further I believe that if you have batteries in series parallel, the in between links should be connected in parallel banks and also with a battery balancer to ensure equal charging to each individual battery.
I'm afraid I agree with Bill, you should replace the complete house bank.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM 437


locked Re: AMEL 55

Dimitris Krasopoulos
 

Hi to all,

I have sailed 3 Amels The Santorin the SM2000 and the 54, Iwe have also test sailed the 55. We would not buy for sure the 55 it missed main Amel features unfortunately. Lack of storage deeper boat higher mast can easily make you sea sick. This is important features in an Amel boat and the new at that time 55 was missing them for sure. For all the people that bought the 55 it was an Amel but the installed base has not upgraded to the new boat. If a company looses the installed base is not a good sign for a new design. The Amel 50 is different and I can not judge as I have not sailed on one. It looks promising but only a test sail can help a more extended sail on one is even more helpful. The needs change so it all depends of the purpose of the boat you buy. All boats is a compromise all have good and bad points all depends if your needs


On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 09:36 Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Well guys, I sure didn't mean to come off like I was 'demeaning' the 55 or anyone's choice of it for their needs! Obviously, (and perhaps this was my mistake) I could have talked about the good things on a 55.... I'm sure the build quality is excellent, I'm sure it's a lot faster, brighter, looks darn fine, etc. What I was saying is that the OP was asking re being a full time liveaboard, and for that choice, I thought more along the lines of the drawbacks from other great amels that they might have not considered upgrading to be a perhaps more livable boat, which in terms of bang for buck for me, is the SM or to some extent the 54. I've never sailed one, so I couldnt speak to it's speed or seakindliness (although by observation, it is a bit wider in the stern which some probably wouldn't like in a following sea). I could only have drinks on one and imagine living there full time, which for us, didn't appeal, especially given the purchase price. Regarding the storage in the cockpit and bow, I was talking about dry storage of household goods at easy access to a liveaboard, for which cabinets are essential so you don't spend half the day bent over, cause even at age 40 my back kills me. As for the lazarette being huge, it absolutely is. Still couldn't store the kind of dinghy we use, hard aluminum 3.3m ready to take you to drinks 10 miles away in meter seas if needs be ;) ie the kind of dinghy a liveaboard might appreciate, anchoring farther out on a boat with the kind of draft any amel carries beneath her.  

ok so now where's that white flag emoji..... :D

--
Best Regards

Dimitris Krasopoulos
Dubai Mob: +971 564602575
Greek Mob:+306944302318


locked Re: AMEL 55

Davi Rozgonyi
 
Edited

Well guys, I sure didn't mean to come off like I was 'demeaning' the 55 or anyone's choice of it for their needs! Obviously, (and perhaps this was my mistake) I could have talked about the good things on a 55.... I'm sure the build quality is excellent, I'm sure it's a lot faster, brighter, looks darn fine, etc. What I was saying is that the OP was asking re being a full time liveaboard, and for that choice, I thought more along the lines of the drawbacks from other great amels that they might have not considered upgrading to be a perhaps more livable boat, which in terms of bang for buck for me, is the SM or to some extent the 54. I've never sailed one, so I couldnt speak to it's speed or seakindliness (although by observation, it is a bit wider in the stern which some probably wouldn't like in a following sea). I could only have drinks on one and imagine living there full time, which for us, didn't appeal, especially given the purchase price. Regarding the storage in the cockpit and bow, I was talking about dry storage of household goods at easy access to a liveaboard, for which cabinets are essential so you don't spend half the day bent over, cause even at age 40 my back kills me. As for the lazarette being huge, it absolutely is. Still couldn't store the kind of dinghy we use, hard aluminum 3.3m ready to take you to drinks 10 miles away in meter seas if needs be ;) ie the kind of dinghy a liveaboard might appreciate, anchoring farther out on a boat with the kind of draft any amel carries beneath her.  

ok so now where's that white flag emoji..... :D


Re: New Curtains

Elaine Leishman
 

Thanks for that, much appreciated.


Re: New Curtains

Mohammad Shirloo
 


Hi;

Attached please find the pictures requested. The bottoms of the curtains have sewed in fabric loops that slide on the rail.

image1.jpeg
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Respectfully;


Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54#099

On May 27, 2019, at 6:39 AM, Elaine Leishman via Groups.Io <leishman.elaine@...> wrote:

I made an error in my request for new curtain ideas.  Should be curtains from the Amel 54.  Could someone post a couple of photos showing how they are attached to the rod at the bottom.  Thanks,
Elaine, 


Re: Am I the only one so stupid?

Dean Gillies
 

We also joined that club, in Week 1 of ownership 💦😳


Re: New Curtains

Elaine Leishman
 

I made an error in my request for new curtain ideas.  Should be curtains from the Amel 54.  Could someone post a couple of photos showing how they are attached to the rod at the bottom.  Thanks,
Elaine, 


Genua Electric furler

heinz@quetzal.berlin
 

Hello everyone
After my genoa had wrapped around itself several times because the engine did not stop, my genoa now only turns in one direction, unrolling.
In the bath I can hear a click on pressing the switch in the cockpit. I have already exchanged the cables and used a different switch. Always with the same result. It just works in one Direktion. 
Does anyone know advice?
I would be grateful for a recommendation.
 
 
Heinz quetzal SM2000 292 from Huhahine Polynesia 


Re: Genoa Fair Leads

Mike Ondra
 

Hi Steve,

We purchased replacement genoa cars from Euro Marine Trading, Inc. in Newport, RI,  the US distributer of Antal parts in 2016. Cost was $259.84 each plus $29 shipping from Italy (prorated as part of their larger shipment). Euro Marine was familiar with the Amel configuration with the bales on both ends of the car, and that’s how they arrived, identical to the original.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Capt. Steve Bode
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2019 3:43 AM
To: Amel Yacht Owners Group <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Genoa Fair Leads

 

Hey, Group.

 

What's the latest best answer on replacing the Genoa Fair Leads? My springs are broken, one wheel is chipped. Tried taking it apart, but can't figure out how to get the pin out of the center once the eye bolts are removed. Is that center bar screwed in? At $750 a piece online, I'm not jazzed about replacing the whole car.

Replacement car without extra hardware needed to adapt to Amel lead system:

 

Tags: Genoa Fair Lead, Genoa Track, Jib Car Lead, Jib fairlead, Genoa Fairlead, Foresail Track

 


Steve Bode, Captain of Sailing Vessel Intention

Currently Drydocked at ANT Yat Servis

Bodrum Marina Teknik Servisler

Neyzen Tevfik Cad. No. 5

48400 Bodrum, Mulga, Turkiye

 

Amel Super Maramu #117 (1994) 

+1 415-710-6659 voice/text/whatsapp


Re: Any SM owners use a Beta engine??

svsunnyside
 

Hi Bill Fletcher,
On my MARAMU #219 the Perkins 4154 has little more than 11,000 hours.
Also if is still running very well, I must be prepared to buy a new engine, perhaps, in a short time. Quite sure I will buy a BETA 60 , so I am very interested to receive from you all the possible details from purchase.........up to installation. I am sure that there are more guys in the same situation and each one of us will be very glad to share such an experience.
Many thank in advance.
Gabriele Antolini
S/V Sunny Side
Maramu #219
Todomar yard
Cartagena de India

On Sunday, 26 May 2019, 16:57:33 GMT-4, Bill Fletcher <bll.fletcher@...> wrote:


I bought a Beta marine 60 six years ago and it has been the best purchase I have made for the boat. It has been totally reliable and easy to work on. Two options I had were I had the remote oil filter installed. The oil filer would be very difficult to change and messy without it. I sent my existing high amperage alternator to  the factory to be installed They modified my alternator to a serpentine  belt and did a great job. This saved hours of work for the installers and it wasn’t very expensive.  Of course you would do the 75 horsepower as you are a SM  I am only a MARAMU but am very happy with it. I have traced from the states to New Zealand and so far every time I turn the key it just goes. 
Bill Fletcher 
MARAMU 179

On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 5:35 PM Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:
Ciao y'all.... Davi here on SM#56, Wake. So I've been trying to have my Perkins Prima M80T rebuilt for some months now with disappointing results. Constant gray/white smoke and spitting oil or diesel on the water, eating a liter of oil every 50 hours or so. Even after twice having engine removed, pistons checked, head checked, FI pump rebuilt, injectors tested, new turbo installed.... stumped. Two different mechanics. The first I can now say botched the job, but the second is pretty brilliant and he is at the point where he wants to pull the whole thing to recheck the other work done starting at the pistons again. 

But I am getting fed up. I cannot afford any more high-season-in-the-Med marina layup for weeks. I will be able to limp through the summer here in Italy/Greece with it as is before wintering back here in Palermo, where there is a Beta dealer. I've looked at these engines before, and know they are strong, simple, naturally aspirated, cheaper parts, etc. Price is pretty good too.

So I'm asking if any of you have Betas or can tell me some things about them I might be missing vis a vis a SM repower. They make a 75 horse model, looks pretty sweet, I've only heard good things about them. Any real life insight from ye salty souls??? 


Re: Am I the only one so stupid?

Ian Townsend
 

We have the old 40L/hr DC Dessalator. Our timer is more like a calendar. 💧⌛️😊

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Bahamas

On May 26, 2019, at 6:16 PM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

We are also members of this club. We now set a timer when filling the water tank to remind us to check the progress. It is amazing how many times the timer goes off and we both suddenly sit up because we forgot the water is running.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arno Luijten
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 5:34 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Am I the only one so stupid?

 

All,

Our 54 has a major design flaw. Or it’s not protected against stupidity, take your pick.
Anyway I managed for the third time now to overflow the fresh water tank while refilling. The problem is that the water does not simply overflows through the filler cap. Instead it gushes out of the level meter pipe next to the companionway right into the main saloon bilge that has no drain. Oops.
Anyone else has the same problem?

Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121 


Re: Am I the only one so stupid?

Mark Erdos
 

We are also members of this club. We now set a timer when filling the water tank to remind us to check the progress. It is amazing how many times the timer goes off and we both suddenly sit up because we forgot the water is running.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arno Luijten
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 5:34 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Am I the only one so stupid?

 

All,

Our 54 has a major design flaw. Or it’s not protected against stupidity, take your pick.
Anyway I managed for the third time now to overflow the fresh water tank while refilling. The problem is that the water does not simply overflows through the filler cap. Instead it gushes out of the level meter pipe next to the companionway right into the main saloon bilge that has no drain. Oops.
Anyone else has the same problem?

Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121 


Re: Am I the only one so stupid?

Courtney Gorman
 

Yes we had same problem once 


On May 26, 2019, at 5:40 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Yes, same problem on a SM...I set an alarm every time I filled the tank because I wasn't smart enough to watch it after I overflowed the first time.😡
.
Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 4:34 PM Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
All,

Our 54 has a major design flaw. Or it’s not protected against stupidity, take your pick.
Anyway I managed for the third time now to overflow the fresh water tank while refilling. The problem is that the water does not simply overflows through the filler cap. Instead it gushes out of the level meter pipe next to the companionway right into the main saloon bilge that has no drain. Oops.
Anyone else has the same problem?

Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121 


Re: Am I the only one so stupid?

karkauai
 

Yep, I’ve done it three times in ten years.  Duh!!!  Nice clean bilge, though  ;-)>
I’ve put everything in the floor lockers in plastic bins, so it’s not as  difficult to clean up.  Water alarm in bilge just under companionway.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On May 26, 2019, at 5:40 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Yes, same problem on a SM...I set an alarm every time I filled the tank because I wasn't smart enough to watch it after I overflowed the first time.😡
.
Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 4:34 PM Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
All,

Our 54 has a major design flaw. Or it’s not protected against stupidity, take your pick.
Anyway I managed for the third time now to overflow the fresh water tank while refilling. The problem is that the water does not simply overflows through the filler cap. Instead it gushes out of the level meter pipe next to the companionway right into the main saloon bilge that has no drain. Oops.
Anyone else has the same problem?

Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121 


locked Re: AMEL 55

 

I accidentally deleted John Clanton's posting on this Topic...here it is:
I have owned my 55 for a year and a half, not nearly as long as most people on this forum, and I am not nearly as experienced as most Amel sailors. Nevertheless I have an opinion.  I am confident, agree, and support Joerg’s post regarding Davi’s comments. 
 
I believe that the Amel ethos that Henri created is every bit as present in the 55, and for that matter the 50, as it was in the SM line. Commitment to detail, quality of construction, and best user experience is evident in every element of the 55. These later boats were built on the thousands of miles sailed by our friends in the SM series. 
 
It should be no surprise that sailors have opinions, but I would like to think that Amel owners can be the best guardians of the brand. And by that, celebrating their choices without demeaning others choices. 
 
The 55 is different from the SMs, but is built on the success of the SMs and carries on the heritage created by Henri.  I would not choose a different boat than the one I have, and I truly hope that all Amel owners feel the same way about whichever model they are sailing at the moment. 
 
John W. Clanton 
S/V Devereux 
Amel 55, No. 65
currently in Cartagena
 


Re: Am I the only one so stupid?

 

Yes, same problem on a SM...I set an alarm every time I filled the tank because I wasn't smart enough to watch it after I overflowed the first time.😡
.
Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 4:34 PM Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
All,

Our 54 has a major design flaw. Or it’s not protected against stupidity, take your pick.
Anyway I managed for the third time now to overflow the fresh water tank while refilling. The problem is that the water does not simply overflows through the filler cap. Instead it gushes out of the level meter pipe next to the companionway right into the main saloon bilge that has no drain. Oops.
Anyone else has the same problem?

Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121 


Am I the only one so stupid?

Arno Luijten
 

All,

Our 54 has a major design flaw. Or it’s not protected against stupidity, take your pick.
Anyway I managed for the third time now to overflow the fresh water tank while refilling. The problem is that the water does not simply overflows through the filler cap. Instead it gushes out of the level meter pipe next to the companionway right into the main saloon bilge that has no drain. Oops.
Anyone else has the same problem?

Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121 


Re: Important - Amel 54 and any Electrical Emergency #IMPORTANT

 

Arno,

I apologize, I omitted giving you credit for the 54 wiring photo. Thanks!

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 4:28 PM Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
Hi Dean,

Are you sure the schema in the handbook is correct? Mine is not. The batteries are shown in two different pages, both of them are incorrect. One is the one that shows both the 12 v and the 24 v battery, this one is really incorrect, the other shows the 24 volt circuit with the batteries, this one is more accurate but still wrong.

Arno,
SV Luna
A54-121