Date   
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: shaft seals

 

It is true that two wider seals will fit, but you will lose the double protection of losing oil that was designed by Amel. 

You know me...stick with the original design unless it is an emergency, or you have personally cleared your planned change with Captain Amel. And, yes I spoke with the Captain about a solar Arch with the help of a Romanian and a funny looking board.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 13:04 sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Hi Bob,

3 each 45 65 8.  Or you can use 2 each 45 65 12.
All with stainless steel garter springs.
Cheers, Craig SN68 


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Can someone please remind me of the dimensions of the 3 shaft seals that go on the Wear Out Bearing? I am not on the boat, but want to order spares to take back with me.

Bob
Gallivant
Amel 54 #31


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yahoo Amel Owners

John Clark
 

Welcome Michael, I am sure the administrators will have you sorted soon.  


On Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 3:55 PM 'Michael G. Chalos' mgchalos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Dear Sirs,

I own a 2016 built Amel 55, hull number 47 called LIBERTÉ.

I would like to join your group.

Best Regards/Michael G. Chalos

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

amelforme
 

AR stands for arriere/the rear in French. The one up in the forecabin says AV which stands for avant/ before or in front in French.

Don’t be hard on yourself. Enjoy your Amel.

JOEL F. POTTER
CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
Office 954-462-5869 

On Dec 10, 2018, at 11:50 AM, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ah Ha!   Sorry have to do the "I was right dance"....just a little!  ;)

Graham, your question is exactly what the forum is for.  Amel does things a little different and we have all had those banging your head on an Amel "problem" that really wasn't.  

After so many years of q and a  there is likely an answer to most all question asked..  The experience and insight here is staggering. 

So your breaker has a large. AR on top and the buttons are labeled arretter and Marche, stop and run respectively.    

I worked for EDF the French power company...you pick up little things.  

All the best with your Amel, and don't be concerned about asking questions.  

Regards,. John

John Clark
SV Annie SM 37
Carriacou


On Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 11:57 AM Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Thank you to everyone who answered this and for the wiring diagram... 

I cannot believe how stupid I have been!  For some reason for which I
can't account, I was convinced that the "AR" circuit breaker in the aft
heads was for the air-conditioning system, which we never use.  It turns
out that it is indeed the circuit breaker for the aft cabin electrics as
several of you have said. 

Needless to say, once it was made, all the lights work again! 

I'm sorry that I have wasted your time. 

Kind regards and thanks

Graham

Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

Hi Mark,
Got it, although you may be crediting me with more naivety than I possess.
Cheers, Craig (with a "C".  No prob, just don't call me late for dinner.)


---In amelyachtowners@..., <mcerdos@...> wrote :

Hi Graig,

 

I can see how you see that but I was addressing it you. I was asking you not to take the really bad advice from Richard M.

 

Agreed on running dark and silent off Somalia J

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 1:52 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

 

 

Hi Mark,

You mistakenly addressed your reply to me - it was Richard M who made the comment about not liking radar.

I rather like both AIS and Radar, but always turn off the AIS transmit when coastal cruising in Somalia :-)

Cheers, Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <mcerdos@...> wrote :

Craig,

 

Below is really bad advice. Please don’t sail this way. It is irresponsible.

 

On Cream Puff we run radar at night (even in a full moon) and have a Class A AIS that overlays onto our NobelTec Time Zero Navigation Computer and chart display (of which we have a mirror backup system). The AIS has an alarm and sounds until silenced when any target is within five miles. Any vessel with a 2 mile CPA or less we hail via VHF to ensure we are both aware of each other’s COG and discuss who may alter course if needed to ensure we pass safely. i.e.  recently asked a large freighter to adjust 10 degrees to port since we had 40 knot winds and the captain was very accommodating and saved us from having to tack (we were willing to tack, and we had the right of way, but his flexibility was greatly appreciated).

 

I just cannot imagine sailing with my eyes closed. That is just plain crazy.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2018 6:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

 

 

Hi Craig, I’ve kept my boat simple. No radar at all. My only chartplotter is Navionics on my iPad. Navionics cannot display the AIS.. Instead the AIS displays on Vespers own app. So it isn’t very integrated. (No radar because I do a lot of single-handed passages, and I see radar as a distraction - I’d rather spend my limited resources on other watch keeping activities. I’d rather have AIS than radar.)
Regards Richard M

Yahoo Amel Owners

Michael G Chalos
 

Dear Sirs,

I own a 2016 built Amel 55, hull number 47 called LIBERTÉ.

I would like to join your group.

Best Regards/Michael G. Chalos

Re: shaft seals

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

Hi Bob,
3 each 45 65 8.  Or you can use 2 each 45 65 12.
All with stainless steel garter springs.
Cheers, Craig SN68 


---In amelyachtowners@..., <hodginsbob@...> wrote :

Can someone please remind me of the dimensions of the 3 shaft seals that go on the Wear Out Bearing? I am not on the boat, but want to order spares to take back with me.

Bob
Gallivant
Amel 54 #31


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

Hi Mark,
You mistakenly addressed your reply to me - it was Richard M who made the comment about not liking radar.
I rather like both AIS and Radar, but always turn off the AIS transmit when coastal cruising in Somalia :-)
Cheers, Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <mcerdos@...> wrote :

Craig,

 

Below is really bad advice. Please don’t sail this way. It is irresponsible.

 

On Cream Puff we run radar at night (even in a full moon) and have a Class A AIS that overlays onto our NobelTec Time Zero Navigation Computer and chart display (of which we have a mirror backup system). The AIS has an alarm and sounds until silenced when any target is within five miles. Any vessel with a 2 mile CPA or less we hail via VHF to ensure we are both aware of each other’s COG and discuss who may alter course if needed to ensure we pass safely. i.e.  recently asked a large freighter to adjust 10 degrees to port since we had 40 knot winds and the captain was very accommodating and saved us from having to tack (we were willing to tack, and we had the right of way, but his flexibility was greatly appreciated).

 

I just cannot imagine sailing with my eyes closed. That is just plain crazy.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2018 6:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

 

 

Hi Craig, I’ve kept my boat simple. No radar at all. My only chartplotter is Navionics on my iPad. Navionics cannot display the AIS.. Instead the AIS displays on Vespers own app. So it isn’t very integrated. (No radar because I do a lot of single-handed passages, and I see radar as a distraction - I’d rather spend my limited resources on other watch keeping activities. I’d rather have AIS than radar.)
Regards Richard M

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Graig,

 

I can see how you see that but I was addressing it you. I was asking you not to take the really bad advice from Richard M.

 

Agreed on running dark and silent off Somalia J

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 1:52 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

 

 

Hi Mark,

You mistakenly addressed your reply to me - it was Richard M who made the comment about not liking radar.

I rather like both AIS and Radar, but always turn off the AIS transmit when coastal cruising in Somalia :-)

Cheers, Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Craig,

 

Below is really bad advice. Please don’t sail this way. It is irresponsible.

 

On Cream Puff we run radar at night (even in a full moon) and have a Class A AIS that overlays onto our NobelTec Time Zero Navigation Computer and chart display (of which we have a mirror backup system). The AIS has an alarm and sounds until silenced when any target is within five miles. Any vessel with a 2 mile CPA or less we hail via VHF to ensure we are both aware of each other’s COG and discuss who may alter course if needed to ensure we pass safely. i.e.  recently asked a large freighter to adjust 10 degrees to port since we had 40 knot winds and the captain was very accommodating and saved us from having to tack (we were willing to tack, and we had the right of way, but his flexibility was greatly appreciated).

 

I just cannot imagine sailing with my eyes closed. That is just plain crazy.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2018 6:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

 

 

Hi Craig, I’ve kept my boat simple. No radar at all. My only chartplotter is Navionics on my iPad. Navionics cannot display the AIS.. Instead the AIS displays on Vespers own app. So it isn’t very integrated. (No radar because I do a lot of single-handed passages, and I see radar as a distraction - I’d rather spend my limited resources on other watch keeping activities. I’d rather have AIS than radar.)
Regards Richard M

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

John Clark
 

Ah Ha!   Sorry have to do the "I was right dance"....just a little!  ;)

Graham, your question is exactly what the forum is for.  Amel does things a little different and we have all had those banging your head on an Amel "problem" that really wasn't.  

After so many years of q and a  there is likely an answer to most all question asked.  The experience and insight here is staggering. 

So your breaker has a large. AR on top and the buttons are labeled arretter and Marche, stop and run respectively.    

I worked for EDF the French power company...you pick up little things.  

All the best with your Amel, and don't be concerned about asking questions.  

Regards,. John

John Clark
SV Annie SM 37
Carriacou


On Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 11:57 AM Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Thank you to everyone who answered this and for the wiring diagram.. 

I cannot believe how stupid I have been!  For some reason for which I
can't account, I was convinced that the "AR" circuit breaker in the aft
heads was for the air-conditioning system, which we never use.  It turns
out that it is indeed the circuit breaker for the aft cabin electrics as
several of you have said. 

Needless to say, once it was made, all the lights work again! 

I'm sorry that I have wasted your time. 

Kind regards and thanks

Graham

Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240

Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

Hi Richard,
I guess that's why the make chocolate and vanilla 

Cheers, Craig


---In amelyachtowners@..., <middleton@...> wrote :

Hi Craig, I’ve kept my boat simple. No radar at all. My only chartplotter is Navionics on my iPad. Navionics cannot display the AIS. Instead the AIS displays on Vespers own app. So it isn’t very integrated. (No radar because I do a lot of single-handed passages, and I see radar as a distraction - I’d rather spend my limited resources on other watch keeping activities. I’d rather have AIS than radar.)
Regards Richard M

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

Graham Cresswell <grahamjcresswell@...>
 

Thank you to everyone who answered this and for the wiring diagram. 

I cannot believe how stupid I have been!  For some reason for which I
can't account, I was convinced that the "AR" circuit breaker in the aft
heads was for the air-conditioning system, which we never use.  It turns
out that it is indeed the circuit breaker for the aft cabin electrics as
several of you have said. 

Needless to say, once it was made, all the lights work again! 

I'm sorry that I have wasted your time. 

Kind regards and thanks

Graham

Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240

shaft seals

hodginsbob@...
 

Can someone please remind me of the dimensions of the 3 shaft seals that go on the Wear Out Bearing? I am not on the boat, but want to order spares to take back with me.

Bob
Gallivant
Amel 54 #31


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

 

Graham,

I believe that it is not possible to answer your question because Amel made changes to all model boats during each model's production years, and because no person in this group actually knows what previous owners did to your boat. Trust me on the latter. I have been aboard many different models and models with different years of production, going to where I absolutely knew something should be, only to find it either totally missing or replaced with something else.

It is risky to compare one Amel model to the same model, especially when they are old enough to have been owned by several owners, some of whom either didn't care, or didn't know how to maintain it.

I am sure with patience you will resolve your issue. If not, find a recommended electrician.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 06:11 claysparkes@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Am I correct that there is a breaker in the aft head?

Re: Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

rossny@ymail.com
 

Yes, there was a breaker on the wall above the head installed by Amel in my 1989 Maramu, mine had an outlet installed with it on the same mounting plate if I remember correctly. The back of the breaker was exposed on my boat in the storage area and may have had the wires disturbed when using the storage bins, it may be a spade connector come loose. Most of the wiring going for to aft was contained in PVC tubing run behind the carpeting, you should see a bump running under the shelf or support against the hull under the hull insulating carpet. There is at least two runs / pipes and individual wires exit at various points for devices on eah side of the boat. Good luck, Ross (still in NY...hi all)

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

Alan Leslie
 

Rule 5 says :

Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper look out by sight and hearing .....

How can you do that if you're not at least in the cockpit, or better, at the helm ?

Dangerous not to comply with this rule.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

greatketch@...
 

Not just BAD advice in practice, but illegal as well.  

The ColRegs require you to use "all available means" to avoid collision.  If you are on a boat and are involved in any kind of incident and the installed radar was not turned on, you ARE at fault. This is not a theoretical legal issue, but one that every USCG incident investigator knows and understands.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

Mark Erdos
 

Craig,

 

Below is really bad advice. Please don’t sail this way. It is irresponsible.

 

On Cream Puff we run radar at night (even in a full moon) and have a Class A AIS that overlays onto our NobelTec Time Zero Navigation Computer and chart display (of which we have a mirror backup system). The AIS has an alarm and sounds until silenced when any target is within five miles. Any vessel with a 2 mile CPA or less we hail via VHF to ensure we are both aware of each other’s COG and discuss who may alter course if needed to ensure we pass safely. i.e.  recently asked a large freighter to adjust 10 degrees to port since we had 40 knot winds and the captain was very accommodating and saved us from having to tack (we were willing to tack, and we had the right of way, but his flexibility was greatly appreciated).

 

I just cannot imagine sailing with my eyes closed. That is just plain crazy.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2018 6:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

 

 

Hi Craig, I’ve kept my boat simple. No radar at all. My only chartplotter is Navionics on my iPad. Navionics cannot display the AIS.. Instead the AIS displays on Vespers own app. So it isn’t very integrated. (No radar because I do a lot of single-handed passages, and I see radar as a distraction - I’d rather spend my limited resources on other watch keeping activities. I’d rather have AIS than radar.)
Regards Richard M

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

 

Jeff,

Exactly. And, who better to make this point. You are the only member of the Amel Owners Group that is also a lifelong commercial fisherman owning more than one boat, and experienced a loss.

I believe in owning and using commonly available technology to reduce Risk of damage of property and physical injury which may occur on my boat, or others involved. I also believe 100% of Marine Insurance companies believe the same. Today, I believe that in a collision, you would be liable for physical loss and personal injuries, if you choose to navigate without Radar, VHF, and an AIS transceiver.

And, just a reminder, anything any member posts in this group is publicly accessible by interested parties, such as your insurance carrier. I am sure they will not bother to access this information unless you have a loss.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sun, Dec 9, 2018, 15:53 JEFFREY KRAUS jmkraus@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Richard,
If you sail in any areas north of South Carolina, you must be aware that there is an awful lot of fishing activities, long line, draggers, fish/lobster pot fisherman. These vessels range in size from 32 on up, many in the 50-65 foot range. Commercial fisherman ARE NOT required to transmit an AIS signal unless they exceed 65'.
Many draggers and pot fisherman will be engaged in activities that, to a person unfamiliar with their work and how the boats may vary their speeds, stop, turn around, and make movements that seem arbitrary, all without transmitting an AIS signal.
I personally encountered a dragger fleet off the NC coast one night, no fun figuring out what they were, and what they were up to. Often they're too busy to repond to a call, or often, don't give a crap to get back to you. They do have right of way (vessel restricted in ability to maneuver), and they will take advantage of that .
If you would prefer to keep radar off your boat, good luck. 
I might add, dense fog banks will appear out of nowhere, in many areas north of 35N. Many folks don't tune their radar until it's too late. Without having it tuned, you will may feel a sense of FALSE security until it's too late. 
There is, I firmly believe, a law of the ocean, 2 boats on the ocean will find each other. Spend enough time on the ocean, and you'll become a believer of this law.
Best advise, believe it, and take steps to help yourself avoid it's ramifications.

Best,
Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14


On Sun, Dec 09, 2018 at 05:33 PM, Richard Middleton middleton@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Hi Craig, I’ve kept my boat simple. No radar at all. My only chartplotter is Navionics on my iPad. Navionics cannot display the AIS... Instead the AIS displays on Vespers own app. So it isn’t very integrated. (No radar because I do a lot of single-handed passages, and I see radar as a distraction - I’d rather spend my limited resources on other watch keeping activities. I’d rather have AIS than radar.)
Regards Richard M

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

RICHARD MIDDLETON
 

Hi Craig, I’ve kept my boat simple. No radar at all. My only chartplotter is Navionics on my iPad. Navionics cannot display the AIS. Instead the AIS displays on Vespers own app. So it isn’t very integrated. (No radar because I do a lot of single-handed passages, and I see radar as a distraction - I’d rather spend my limited resources on other watch keeping activities. I’d rather have AIS than radar.)
Regards Richard M