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Re: This should interest all members, especially Amel yacht owners Theo s/v Paloma #47048 My wife and I are thoroughly enjoying our new Amel 50. Personally, I really appreciate the thought (Amel philosophy) that went in to designing our boat. As with anything man-made, our boat requires maintenance, which makes me even more thankful that I own an Amel. Looking forward to enjoying life on the water and taking care of our boat for many years to come. Theo. s/v Paloma, Amel 50 #18
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Re: Bimini detail CW Bill Rouse #47047 James, You do not search for Kerpa photos. In the past some members named photos or albums names that had nothing to do with the photos. Two of our members accomplished the enormous task of renaming photos to match the contents of the photos. Thanks to Gary Silver and Andrew Lamb...both MDs, both SM owners, and each with amazing other abilities. Thanks again! If you search on "Bimini" and "Cockpit" I am sure you will get what you are looking for. Best, CW Bill Rouse Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners www.YachtSchool.us 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 7:33 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but how do you search for your “Kerpa” photos? I do not see a search option when opening the photos page. Thank you. -James On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:53 AM, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote: Mike we have donned that search Kerpa in the photo section, we have had it for three years now and still very happy with it. It was a great improvement towards the original. Paul SY Kerpa SM 259
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Re: Bimini detail karkauai #47046 Hi Mark, No hard top on Kristy. I’ll post pics this afternoon. Kent SM 243 Kristy
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Re: This should interest all members, especially Amel yacht owners Davi Rozgonyi #47045 Good point! A fun Amel pick-me-up for those on here considering an Amel.... met a very cool old French sailor last week, been around the world more than once, pulled up at the dock in a stunning Boreal aluminum beauty, and ran right over and said: I NEVER want to see other people's boats! But an Amel...I always have to try! We had many beers and good times as he extolled the virtues of my own boat better than I could have :D
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Re: washing machine and dryer for Amel 54 Porter McRoberts #47044 We replaced our bosch with the Beko. Outstanding machine and quite easy to replace. it works much better than our house washing machine. The hardest part is getting the machine to the boat!-if in the US. Porter McRoberts A54-152 Excuse the errors. Sent from my IPhone Www.fouribis.com toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Aug 1, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Martin Bevan <Martin.bevanhome@...> wrote: We replaced the original Bosch machine in 2017 when it started to trip the power out. The replacement was as in the previous post, a Beko. There are very few half depth machines available and Bosch no longer make one. Our original machine was held in place by two bolts attached through the back of the machine which go through a panel at the back of the machine space and are secured by two Amel style wheel nuts. These are accessed via a panel in the port side double cabin. We fitted these bolts to the new machine. The old and new machines just fit through the companionway doors. On the the subject of tumble dryers, ours got a large amount of use, especially for drying towels when at sea. The main issue that we had was with the grill at the end of the exhaust pipe blocking, solved by removing the internal grill. Martin Bevan Previous owner of Caduceus A54#56
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Re: Bimini detail Ann-Sofie #47043 Asking me? Yes we did. Doesn’t regrett it at all. Keeps the cockpit a bit cooler (and warmer in cold climate) as it is a sandwich construction. Perfect spot for solar panels. Not really satisfied with the design, as this is the prototype that was ment to be replaced. But it had been in place since 2010 now. Wonder when/if it will ever be re-designed 🥴 Hälsningar Ann-Sofie Svanberg Skickat från min iPhone 1 aug. 2019 kl. 21:22 skrev Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...>: toggle quoted messageShow quoted text Did you install a hardtop? With best regards, Mark Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 2:07 AM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bimini detail Here is the solution on Lady Annila <image001.jpg> <image002.jpg> Hälsningar/Regards Ann-Sofie S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998 Skickat från min iPhone 1 aug. 2019 kl. 04:35 skrev James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...>: Kent - yes! Please post photos. I am also seeking a new design for replacing our bimini. Best, James On Jul 31, 2019 23:26, "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote: Mike, After considering a plan similar to yours, we just replaced the old cockpit enclosure with a semi-permanent fabric Bimini-like top raised a few inches above the dodger. It’s attached to the dodger and to the forward mizzen shrouds. It has two large windows to see sail trim, houses two large flexible solar panels, and is high enough that I can see all the way around standing up straight. The side and aft panels make a very dry and warm cockpit. We spent two days hove-to in 35kts with gusts to 45 and the new enclosure held up great and kept us nice and dry. It’s been a total game-changer for me, being able to stand up and see all around...even when it’s raining cats and dogs. Craig and Katherine on Sangaris (SN) did something similar, but theirs stops a bit farther aft and allows them to step into the cockpit without bending over. I’d be happy to send you some pics of mine (or post them) if you’d like. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy karkauai@... USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Jul 31, 2019, at 10:41 PM, Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...> wrote: We are about to have a new Bimini made and would like to incorporate into it a zip open panel above the Helmsman’s seat so he can stand and poke his head above the Bimini for better visibility during close in maneuvering. Has anyone tried this and found a successful detail to maintain waterproofness at the zipper? Mike Ondra Aletes SM 240
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Re: Bimini detail Eamonn Washington #47042 Hi My wife complained that I was developing a stoop standing at the helm trying to see around in our SM. Then I saw what Ian and Judy did in their SM 2000 Pen Azen, which had a single large vinyl curved window with one zip at the front. I copied the SM2000 measurements for lengthening the 3 stainless steel canvas support bars, repositioned the lower one, then had canvas made to measure coping their design. It is fantastic, even with it closed you can see the sails. However our zip does leak in heavy downpours, despite a small canvas flap outside to protect the zip from UV. I went one step further, and had a row of velcro stitched above and below the vinyl, so I could put up sun block panels with the vinyl rolled down (3 straps to hold it together) or when the vinyl is closed. Buy good quality vinyl, like Stratiglass 40. -- Eamonn Washington Travel Bug Super Maramu #151 Currently in Cagliari, Sardinia, Italy.
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Re: Shore power contactor burnt out Eamonn Washington #47041 Hi Eric The contactor is an automatic switch that selects either the power from the shore or the generator. The manual switch does the same job, just manually. I bought a Schneider Electric rotary switch rated for 32A, with an off position between the shore and generator position. It is inside the same box in the cockpit locker, except the selector is inside the galley to port of the existing generator start switch. My Stator was rewound for 610 euros including VAT, and was assembled (with difficulty) in the engine room. It all works now. I also installed the 20A bipolar trip switches in the aft lazerette that Bill suggested, and I took the opportunity to replace the full length of the shore power cable (right up to the rotary switch). All the electrical work was done by an electrician. Best regards -- Eamonn Washington Travel Bug Super Maramu #151 Currently in Cagliari, Sardinia, Italy.
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Re: VP MD22L Craig Briggs #47040 That seems reasonable, Eric. It does seem a long shot and one I certainly haven't encountered. So if there is a leak in the water heater heat exchanger I guess it could force fresh water into the coolant when the engine is cool with no pressure. That seemingly would have the engine be filled by the fresh water pump and likely drain into the bilge through the pressure cap overflow tube. That doesn't seem consistent with Berndt saying the engine coolant fills up when the engine is hot. The plot thickens !! ... but a good mystery. Craig
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Re: VP MD22L Danny and Yvonne SIMMS #47039 Hi again Bernd, if your heat exchanger has rubber end caps it is high level probability that there is the problem. Tighten the hose clamps as a first try. I had that once on a previous boat and called the Volvo service from out on the water. He said straight up. Tighten the hose clamps. He was right. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 02 August 2019 at 13:23 "Craig Briggs via Groups.Io" <sangaris@...> wrote: Hi Bernd, Per my and others' earlier posts, most likely it is the rubber end caps on the heat exchanger or the heat exchanger itself. But thinking about it more, how do you know it is salt water and not fresh water? A taste test would be difficult with antifreeze in the mix. The only other place I can think of for water getting into the engine's sweet water/coolant circuit would be the heat exchanger in your hot water tank. If your other checks come up with nothing, try looking there. With the radiator cap at about 15 psi - 1 bar, your fresh water pump may be about 20-30 psi - 2-ish bars and could conceivable push some fresh water into the engine cooling heat exchanger. Maybe a long shot but worth checking if nothing else is wrong. Good luck with it, Craig SN68 Sangaris with your same engine only with a Perkins label. You're not even close to needing a new engine!
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Re: VP MD22L eric freedman #47038 On second thought. If the engine is running and a faucet is running, just before the fresh water pump goes on, Isn’t it possible to get antifreeze in the hot water tank? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of eric freedman Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 12:51 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] VP MD22L Craig, That is an excellent idea. I wish I had thought of that. Eric From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Craig Briggs via Groups.Io Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 9:23 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] VP MD22L Hi Bernd, Per my and others' earlier posts, most likely it is the rubber end caps on the heat exchanger or the heat exchanger itself. But thinking about it more, how do you know it is salt water and not fresh water? A taste test would be difficult with antifreeze in the mix. The only other place I can think of for water getting into the engine's sweet water/coolant circuit would be the heat exchanger in your hot water tank. If your other checks come up with nothing, try looking there. With the radiator cap at about 15 psi - 1 bar, your fresh water pump may be about 20-30 psi - 2-ish bars and could conceivable push some fresh water into the engine cooling heat exchanger. Maybe a long shot but worth checking if nothing else is wrong. Good luck with it, Craig SN68 Sangaris with your same engine only with a Perkins label. You're not even close to needing a new engine!
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Re: VP MD22L eric freedman #47037 Craig, That is an excellent idea. I wish I had thought of that. Eric toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Craig Briggs via Groups.Io Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 9:23 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] VP MD22L Hi Bernd, Per my and others' earlier posts, most likely it is the rubber end caps on the heat exchanger or the heat exchanger itself. But thinking about it more, how do you know it is salt water and not fresh water? A taste test would be difficult with antifreeze in the mix. The only other place I can think of for water getting into the engine's sweet water/coolant circuit would be the heat exchanger in your hot water tank. If your other checks come up with nothing, try looking there. With the radiator cap at about 15 psi - 1 bar, your fresh water pump may be about 20-30 psi - 2-ish bars and could conceivable push some fresh water into the engine cooling heat exchanger. Maybe a long shot but worth checking if nothing else is wrong. Good luck with it, Craig SN68 Sangaris with your same engine only with a Perkins label. You're not even close to needing a new engine!
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Re: VP MD22L eric freedman #47036 Then that has to be the problem. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Craig Briggs via Groups.Io Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 8:57 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] VP MD22L No intercooler, oil cooler or transmission cooler on this engine. Has to be either the rubber end caps on the heat exchanger with their two hose clamps or a leak inside the heat exchanger tubes.
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Re: VP MD22L Craig Briggs #47035 Hi Bernd, Per my and others' earlier posts, most likely it is the rubber end caps on the heat exchanger or the heat exchanger itself. But thinking about it more, how do you know it is salt water and not fresh water? A taste test would be difficult with antifreeze in the mix. The only other place I can think of for water getting into the engine's sweet water/coolant circuit would be the heat exchanger in your hot water tank. If your other checks come up with nothing, try looking there. With the radiator cap at about 15 psi - 1 bar, your fresh water pump may be about 20-30 psi - 2-ish bars and could conceivable push some fresh water into the engine cooling heat exchanger. Maybe a long shot but worth checking if nothing else is wrong. Good luck with it, Craig SN68 Sangaris with your same engine only with a Perkins label. You're not even close to needing a new engine!
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Re: VP MD22L Craig Briggs #47034 No intercooler, oil cooler or transmission cooler on this engine. Has to be either the rubber end caps on the heat exchanger with their two hose clamps or a leak inside the heat exchanger tubes.
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Re: Bimini detail James Cromie #47033 Pardon my ignorance, but how do you search for your “Kerpa” photos? I do not see a search option when opening the photos page. Thank you. -James toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:53 AM, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote: Mike we have donned that search Kerpa in the photo section, we have had it for three years now and still very happy with it. It was a great improvement towards the original. Paul SY Kerpa SM 259
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Re: This should interest all members, especially Amel yacht owners tfortner1975 #47032 Thanks Bill, And thank you to all members. We are missing our Santorin. She’s sitting in Borneo with a house keeper as we decide to take a ‘land job’ for family reasons. But giving up the Amel boat life for a few years is a hard choice. Best to all. Trevor toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Aug 1, 2019, at 4:33 PM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote: My Amel just took us here, right now! What an amazing adventure machine! And I just raced my buddy from Raiatea in his new Leopard 48. It blows his mind that a monohull is faster than his cat! Bora Bora right now: <image1.jpeg> Thanks Amel!! Porter S/V IBIS A54-152. Excuse the errors. Sent from my IPhone Www.fouribis.com On Aug 1, 2019, at 12:10 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote: All owners and all non-owners interested in the Amel Brand: In the month of July, we added 31 new members to the Amel Yacht Owners Group. There were 20 new members who were "Interested in buying an Amel." There were 11 Amel owners, including several Amel 50 owners and one Amel 60 owner (he has not received his 60 yet) Also we currently have over 1,000 members who receive each of our postings. It must be daunting to those "Interested in Amel" to see all of the postings regarding maintenance issues. I hope they understand that when a group has this many members, there will be a substantial number of maintenance issues that we want to share. That said, I am sure that 99% of the owners consider their Amel the best and safest ocean sailing yacht available. Please consider the fact that someone asking you a question may not own an Amel.....YET! Best, Bill Rouse Yacht School 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 My Calendar
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Re: Dessslator HP hoses CW Bill Rouse #47031 Eric is correct and JIC fittings are worldwide for hydraulic hoses. Best, CW Bill Rouse Yacht School (formerly Amel School) - Supporting Amel Owners 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 My Calendar Yacht School toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 6:55 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote: The JIC is a designation of the connection. It does not necessarily have to be reusable. Most are not. I will bet that a hydraulic shop can make you the hoses with stainless steel fittings permanently pressed on. Did you bring a hose to a bigger hydraulic shop? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376 From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 3:53 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessslator HP hoses Eric, thanks, It turned out to become a problem here in Faro, Portugal. JIC looks like its not so available in europe? Oliver from Vela Nautica A54#39 Faro, Portugal Sent from my Huawei Mobile -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessslator HP hoses From: eric freedman To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io CC: Oliver, you can get the JIC fittings at any good hydraulic shop. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376 From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 11:37 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessslator HP hoses Hi All, I ran into same problem and the hose from high pressure pump came off before i could change my hoses. Does anybody know how these terminals are caled? What kind of connector is that? Since I learned here that the end fittings are reusable i will order the hoses in France. Dessalator did not give a hint that I can reuse the fittings. Oliver A54#39 Portugal Sent from my Huawei Mobile -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessslator HP hoses From: "Aldo Roldan via Groups.Io" To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io CC: Alan. Would you please provide the Dessalator US rep information? I was not aware they had one. Thank you . Aldo A55- Araucaria On Jul 23, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote: Hi All, im about to order new HP hoses from the dessalator rep in the US. The end fittings are reusable and so you only need to buy the hose unless like me one of your ends are damaged. There are 2 options for this. 1: buy the hose from France and any ends that you need. Hose $40 fittings $93.00 each, shipping $70 2: buy new hose and ends from the US. the hose is different and the fittings are slightly different with the same threaded ends. They are not interchangeable. Cost of 2 new hoses $472.00 I'm buying the hose and 1 end fitting from France. If anyone else wants to buy either hoses or fittings from France and add to my order please let me know by Thurs 25th by noon eastern time. The order will be shipping to me in Annapolis and i'll forward from here if you pay shipping to your destination. Regards Alan Grayson SV Ora Pai Annapolis, MD
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Re: VP MD22L eric freedman #47030 If you have a intercooler, oil cooler, or transmission cooler, it could be one of these. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bernd Spanner Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 3:52 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] VP MD22L Hi everyone! Following problem on a SN (119 From 1995) Engine VP MD22 L I have the following problem... After a few hours engine ops the sweat water (coolant circuit) becomes saltwater. I suspected the leak in the bundle (the tube with the many small holes, about 40 cm long in the heat exchanger). I did a pressure check on this part with a compressor today and there seems to be NO leak. I slowly come to the end of my ideas... ? The engine is still good for it’s age, but running on saltwater will kill it sooner or later 😢 Anyone with some hints n ideas for me?! Greets -- Bernd SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal
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Re: Eeplacement ST 60 Tridata or I50 Tridata needed eric freedman #47029 There are at least 4 on eBay today. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlo Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:51 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Eeplacement ST 60 Tridata or I50 Tridata needed Hello all, my ST 60 Tridata Raymarine instrument finally stopped working on the SeaTalk bus. Worked with Raymarine and did the troubleshooting and they said the unit was bad. So I can replace with another used ST 60 Tridata or and I50 Tridata instrument and get it back on the seatalk network. So I am looking to see if anyone has an old ST 60 Tridata or I50 Tridata that is fully functional they no longer need. (Maybe someone that upgraded their entire system). Prices online are high for the i50 and not sure if the ST 60's online are fully functional. Thought I would ask my fellow Amel family first.
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