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Re: Insurance

Mark Erdos
 

I’m glad I’m not the only person who thought this might be a little bit fishy. I tried to find out info on the company but other than their webpage, it is like they don’t exist. Because they underwrite their own policies, there are no AM Best or Standard & Poor's ratings to understand how financially sound the company actually is. I too was also perplexed they do not name the London based re-insurer. For all we know it could be Joe’s Fish ‘n Chip Shoppe.

 

I still run into the occasional FaceBook post or cruiser who is highly recommending Edward Williams Marine Insurance because they have a cheap policy with no limits and low deductibles. One quick Google search is all it takes to reveal they are a know scam and for some reason still in existence. But, they have a great webpage.

 

I hope for Bill Reynolds’s case Netherland is sound. I wonder Bill if you can share more info about them. It would be great to find a place who can help the dilemma many are facing trying to get a policy. Sorry to be so skeptical, Bill.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Teun BAAS
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 12:03 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

 

Bill,

 

I wonder why they want to hold on to their original connection with Holland after they "became wholly independent?"

 

Simple – see attached.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

In Storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

April 23, 2021 15:01:52

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 14:54
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

 

Courtney:https://netherlands.co.gd

From their website: "Netherlands Insurance Co. (W.I.) Limited is a general insurance company registered to conduct insurance business in Grenada and Antigua. Originally established in August 1992
 as a subsidiary of a Dutch insurance company, the company has since become wholly independent."

 

I wonder why they want to hold on to their original connection with Holland after they "became wholly independent?"

 

 

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

 

View My Training Calendar

 

 

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 3:51 PM Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Bill can you please share their contact information 

 

On Apr 22, 2021, at 10:22 PM, william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:



We reinsured  last year with Netherlands Insurance, based in Grenada with offices in Holland. NO underwriters. They are the carriers, insurers and underwriters.

They have insured large international commercial vessels for many years and have only recently offered policies to recreational vessels. They have no history with hurricane losses.We visited their offices on Well St. in Grenada and we were impressed with the professionalism of the company.  The rates  are a bit higher but  the coverage is excellent with 2  million liability, 10% of insured value for personal effects and no exclusion for lightning strikes. The deductible is fixed at 2% and 4% (yes that's 4%) for named storms. Navigational limits are worldwide!  

It's well worth looking into.

Bill Reynolds

Cloudstreet SM2K 331.


Re: Insurance

amelforme
 

Or as my friend and Dutchman Gunter Van den Berg, who I sold a Maramu to decades ago would say, “ You ain’t much if you ain’t Dutch”.

 

All the best,

Joel

 

           JOEL F. POTTER ~ CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST, L.L.C.

                                         The Experienced AMEL Guy

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                  Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 6:03 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

 

Bill,

 

I wonder why they want to hold on to their original connection with Holland after they "became wholly independent?"

 

Simple – see attached.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

In Storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

April 23, 2021 15:01:52

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 14:54
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

 

Courtney:https://netherlands.co.gd

From their website: "Netherlands Insurance Co. (W.I.) Limited is a general insurance company registered to conduct insurance business in Grenada and Antigua. Originally established in August 1992
 as a subsidiary of a Dutch insurance company, the company has since become wholly independent."

 

I wonder why they want to hold on to their original connection with Holland after they "became wholly independent?"

 

 

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

 

View My Training Calendar

 

 

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 3:51 PM Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Bill can you please share their contact information 

 

On Apr 22, 2021, at 10:22 PM, william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:



We reinsured  last year with Netherlands Insurance, based in Grenada with offices in Holland. NO underwriters. They are the carriers, insurers and underwriters.

They have insured large international commercial vessels for many years and have only recently offered policies to recreational vessels. They have no history with hurricane losses.We visited their offices on Well St. in Grenada and we were impressed with the professionalism of the company.  The rates  are a bit higher but  the coverage is excellent with 2  million liability, 10% of insured value for personal effects and no exclusion for lightning strikes. The deductible is fixed at 2% and 4% (yes that's 4%) for named storms. Navigational limits are worldwide!  

It's well worth looking into.

Bill Reynolds

Cloudstreet SM2K 331.


Insurance

eric freedman
 

“wholly independent and presently boasts a majority of local shareholders.

Netherlands currently serves the insurance needs of over 3,000 individuals, families and businesses in Grenada and Antigua and is well known for quick, efficient service and prompt settlement of claims”.

This quote from their website gives me pause. They also say that they are reinsured by a London Based company without naming the name.  If I were reinsured by Lloyds, I would certainly mention it. They have 3,000 clients on 2 islands. They also provide homeowners insurance  , and auto.

They are funded by mostly local investors.

I would be skeptical of their claims process and experience in Insuring offshore vessels. I certainly would not want to wind up like Alexandre of Nikimat.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 5:58 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

 

Hi Eric;

 

We’re having the same insurance issues for the Med. I contacted Netherlands Insurance today and received a quick response with application forms to fill, which I have sent back. Here’s the link to their contact website and contact information:

 

https://netherlands.co.gd/#contact

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 2:55 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

 

Hi Bill.

Also, what is their contact info?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Courtney Gorman via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 4:51 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

 

Bill can you please share their contact information 

 

On Apr 22, 2021, at 10:22 PM, william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:



We reinsured  last year with Netherlands Insurance, based in Grenada with offices in Holland. NO underwriters. They are the carriers, insurers and underwriters.

They have insured large international commercial vessels for many years and have only recently offered policies to recreational vessels. They have no history with hurricane losses.We visited their offices on Well St. in Grenada and we were impressed with the professionalism of the company.  The rates  are a bit higher but  the coverage is excellent with 2  million liability, 10% of insured value for personal effects and no exclusion for lightning strikes. The deductible is fixed at 2% and 4% (yes that's 4%) for named storms. Navigational limits are worldwide!  

It's well worth looking into.

Bill Reynolds

Cloudstreet SM2K 331.


Re: Insurance

Teun BAAS
 

Bill,

 

I wonder why they want to hold on to their original connection with Holland after they "became wholly independent?"

 

Simple – see attached.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

In Storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

April 23, 2021 15:01:52

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 14:54
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

 

Courtney:https://netherlands.co.gd

From their website: "Netherlands Insurance Co. (W.I.) Limited is a general insurance company registered to conduct insurance business in Grenada and Antigua. Originally established in August 1992
 as a subsidiary of a Dutch insurance company, the company has since become wholly independent."

 

I wonder why they want to hold on to their original connection with Holland after they "became wholly independent?"

 

 

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

 

View My Training Calendar

 

 

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 3:51 PM Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Bill can you please share their contact information 



On Apr 22, 2021, at 10:22 PM, william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:



We reinsured  last year with Netherlands Insurance, based in Grenada with offices in Holland. NO underwriters. They are the carriers, insurers and underwriters.

They have insured large international commercial vessels for many years and have only recently offered policies to recreational vessels. They have no history with hurricane losses.We visited their offices on Well St. in Grenada and we were impressed with the professionalism of the company.  The rates  are a bit higher but  the coverage is excellent with 2  million liability, 10% of insured value for personal effects and no exclusion for lightning strikes. The deductible is fixed at 2% and 4% (yes that's 4%) for named storms. Navigational limits are worldwide!  

It's well worth looking into.

Bill Reynolds

Cloudstreet SM2K 331.


Re: Insurance

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Eric;

 

We’re having the same insurance issues for the Med. I contacted Netherlands Insurance today and received a quick response with application forms to fill, which I have sent back. Here’s the link to their contact website and contact information:

 

https://netherlands.co.gd/#contact

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 2:55 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

 

Hi Bill.

Also, what is their contact info?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Courtney Gorman via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 4:51 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

 

Bill can you please share their contact information 

 

On Apr 22, 2021, at 10:22 PM, william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:



We reinsured  last year with Netherlands Insurance, based in Grenada with offices in Holland. NO underwriters. They are the carriers, insurers and underwriters.

They have insured large international commercial vessels for many years and have only recently offered policies to recreational vessels. They have no history with hurricane losses.We visited their offices on Well St. in Grenada and we were impressed with the professionalism of the company.  The rates  are a bit higher but  the coverage is excellent with 2  million liability, 10% of insured value for personal effects and no exclusion for lightning strikes. The deductible is fixed at 2% and 4% (yes that's 4%) for named storms. Navigational limits are worldwide!  

It's well worth looking into.

Bill Reynolds

Cloudstreet SM2K 331.


Re: Insurance

eric freedman
 

Hi Bill.

Also, what is their contact info?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Courtney Gorman via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 4:51 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

 

Bill can you please share their contact information 



On Apr 22, 2021, at 10:22 PM, william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:



We reinsured  last year with Netherlands Insurance, based in Grenada with offices in Holland. NO underwriters. They are the carriers, insurers and underwriters.

They have insured large international commercial vessels for many years and have only recently offered policies to recreational vessels. They have no history with hurricane losses.We visited their offices on Well St. in Grenada and we were impressed with the professionalism of the company.  The rates  are a bit higher but  the coverage is excellent with 2  million liability, 10% of insured value for personal effects and no exclusion for lightning strikes. The deductible is fixed at 2% and 4% (yes that's 4%) for named storms. Navigational limits are worldwide!  

It's well worth looking into.

Bill Reynolds

Cloudstreet SM2K 331.


Re: Insurance

 

Courtney:https://netherlands.co.gd

From their website: "Netherlands Insurance Co. (W.I.) Limited is a general insurance company registered to conduct insurance business in Grenada and Antigua. Originally established in August 1992
 as a subsidiary of a Dutch insurance company, the company has since become wholly independent."


I wonder why they want to hold on to their original connection with Holland after they "became wholly independent?"


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 3:51 PM Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bill can you please share their contact information 


On Apr 22, 2021, at 10:22 PM, william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:


We reinsured  last year with Netherlands Insurance, based in Grenada with offices in Holland. NO underwriters. They are the carriers, insurers and underwriters.
They have insured large international commercial vessels for many years and have only recently offered policies to recreational vessels. They have no history with hurricane losses.We visited their offices on Well St. in Grenada and we were impressed with the professionalism of the company.  The rates  are a bit higher but  the coverage is excellent with 2  million liability, 10% of insured value for personal effects and no exclusion for lightning strikes. The deductible is fixed at 2% and 4% (yes that's 4%) for named storms. Navigational limits are worldwide!  
It's well worth looking into.
Bill Reynolds
Cloudstreet SM2K 331.


Re: Insurance

eric freedman
 

Hi Bill,

What are your Navigation limits and dates?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Courtney Gorman via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 4:51 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

 

Bill can you please share their contact information 



On Apr 22, 2021, at 10:22 PM, william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:



We reinsured  last year with Netherlands Insurance, based in Grenada with offices in Holland. NO underwriters. They are the carriers, insurers and underwriters.

They have insured large international commercial vessels for many years and have only recently offered policies to recreational vessels. They have no history with hurricane losses.We visited their offices on Well St. in Grenada and we were impressed with the professionalism of the company.  The rates  are a bit higher but  the coverage is excellent with 2  million liability, 10% of insured value for personal effects and no exclusion for lightning strikes. The deductible is fixed at 2% and 4% (yes that's 4%) for named storms. Navigational limits are worldwide!  

It's well worth looking into.

Bill Reynolds

Cloudstreet SM2K 331.


Re: Insurance

Courtney Gorman
 

Bill can you please share their contact information 


On Apr 22, 2021, at 10:22 PM, william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:


We reinsured  last year with Netherlands Insurance, based in Grenada with offices in Holland. NO underwriters. They are the carriers, insurers and underwriters.
They have insured large international commercial vessels for many years and have only recently offered policies to recreational vessels. They have no history with hurricane losses.We visited their offices on Well St. in Grenada and we were impressed with the professionalism of the company.  The rates  are a bit higher but  the coverage is excellent with 2  million liability, 10% of insured value for personal effects and no exclusion for lightning strikes. The deductible is fixed at 2% and 4% (yes that's 4%) for named storms. Navigational limits are worldwide!  
It's well worth looking into.
Bill Reynolds
Cloudstreet SM2K 331.


Re: Raspberry Pi

Mark Erdos
 

Ah, yes. Beer: the universal currency of cruisers.

Good luck with your project.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Garver via groups.io

Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 5:04 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Cc: AmelYachtOwners@groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Raspberry Pi

 

Mark,

 

I am heading down this path myself. Like you I have a friend that has his whole boat tricked out just as you describe and it is amazing and VERY inexpensive. Another incredible benefit is power consumption of a Raspberry PI computer vs a traditional computer and other electronics. On his boat not only can he view the status of his boat if there is Internet connectivity, he can control many functions remote as well.

 

Good luck if you go down this path, it will be worth it. Fortunately, for me my friend is going to do all of the work for me :) Cost me a couple of beers!

 

Best,

 

Mark

S/V It’s Good

Amel SM #105

Currently in Chesapeake Bay



On Apr 22, 2021, at 7:24 PM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

 

I am curious if anyone in this group is using Raspberry Pi’s as a computer aboard. 

 

Yesterday, I was on a friends boat. His entire NMEA network, entertainment and programs were available on any monitor on the boat (via a wireless router). With a click of the mouse he can view charts (OpenCPN or Time Zero), anchor alarm status, wind speed (and all related navigation information), battery status, solar panels etc. on any of the standard 5 mounted LED monitors on the vessel. The entire system cost him about US$1,000 (including the monitors). He can even split screen sailing info and watch a movie at the helm while on watch. His entire vast media library is 100% available at any station.

 

The best part: he has various alarms set up and the Raspberry Pi monitors. With the 12v LED monitors off, the system draws only 0.4 amps at 12 vdc. So, his anchor, battery voltage, or AIS alarms etc are all able to run 24/7.

 

While the vessel is in an anchorage or marina with internet connectivity, he can use his phone to remote access the entire onboard network to see the status of his boat systems. For example, he can check to see if the bilge pump has cycled and how many times. 

 

I am a big proponent of using an onboard PC rather than a plotter and manufacture network (such as Raymarine’s Seatalk). I have all of my instruments connected to the ships computer and can display everything on one monitor (with an option for a second). However, my system is now about 8 years old and I was stunned to find the entire setup could be replaced with a US$99 Raspberry Pi. 

 

I would be interested to hear about what others are using or if anyone plans to go this route.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

 

 


Re: Raspberry Pi

Mark Garver
 

Mark,

I am heading down this path myself. Like you I have a friend that has his whole boat tricked out just as you describe and it is amazing and VERY inexpensive. Another incredible benefit is power consumption of a Raspberry PI computer vs a traditional computer and other electronics. On his boat not only can he view the status of his boat if there is Internet connectivity, he can control many functions remote as well.

Good luck if you go down this path, it will be worth it. Fortunately, for me my friend is going to do all of the work for me :) Cost me a couple of beers!

Best,

Mark
S/V It’s Good
Amel SM #105
Currently in Chesapeake Bay

On Apr 22, 2021, at 7:24 PM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

I am curious if anyone in this group is using Raspberry Pi’s as a computer aboard. 
 
Yesterday, I was on a friends boat. His entire NMEA network, entertainment and programs were available on any monitor on the boat (via a wireless router). With a click of the mouse he can view charts (OpenCPN or Time Zero), anchor alarm status, wind speed (and all related navigation information), battery status, solar panels etc. on any of the standard 5 mounted LED monitors on the vessel. The entire system cost him about US$1,000 (including the monitors). He can even split screen sailing info and watch a movie at the helm while on watch. His entire vast media library is 100% available at any station.
 
The best part: he has various alarms set up and the Raspberry Pi monitors. With the 12v LED monitors off, the system draws only 0.4 amps at 12 vdc. So, his anchor, battery voltage, or AIS alarms etc are all able to run 24/7.
 
While the vessel is in an anchorage or marina with internet connectivity, he can use his phone to remote access the entire onboard network to see the status of his boat systems. For example, he can check to see if the bilge pump has cycled and how many times. 
 
I am a big proponent of using an onboard PC rather than a plotter and manufacture network (such as Raymarine’s Seatalk). I have all of my instruments connected to the ships computer and can display everything on one monitor (with an option for a second). However, my system is now about 8 years old and I was stunned to find the entire setup could be replaced with a US$99 Raspberry Pi. 
 
I would be interested to hear about what others are using or if anyone plans to go this route.
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia
 


Re: Raspberry Pi

Billy Newport
 

I have a Pi 4 on my 55. I added a yachtd NMEA-2K to Wifi bridge. This allows my PI to sniff all NMEA data on the furuno N2K backdone. I have an RTL/433Mhz dongle on my PI. This collects temperature/humidity readings from the cabins/engine room/diesel heater return/frigoboat compressors/fridges/freezeers. 433Mhz is key here as it's dirt cheap for sensors (10 bucks US each).
I store all the data in a time series database (influxdb) using telemetry/node red to do that. I am using grafana to build dashboards.
The yachtd Wifi bridge also lets me create NMEA events so I am able to send non NMEA data above back to NMEA to visualize on the Furuno plotters.
This is still a work in progress. I am looking at using signal k to "standardize" the above also. With the price of cheap tablets, it'd be easy to add such tablets around the boat to look at the various dashboards that can be built.


Re: Raspberry Pi

Philippe BELLOIR
 

Hello,

I use raspberry with openplotter  see at https://openmarine.net/openplotter

 

And all connections with wifi, phone, nmea….   http://yvesc0610.free.fr/nmea/NMEA_LOGICIELS.html

 

I found a lot of hardware on aliexpress like this  https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/32730291445.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.e4c14c4dXsl72d

 

Fairs winds

Phil

 

 

De : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> De la part de Mark Erdos
Envoyé : vendredi 23 avril 2021 02:24
À : AmelYachtOwners@groups.io
Objet : [AmelYachtOwners] Raspberry Pi

 

I am curious if anyone in this group is using Raspberry Pi’s as a computer aboard.

 

Yesterday, I was on a friends boat. His entire NMEA network, entertainment and programs were available on any monitor on the boat (via a wireless router). With a click of the mouse he can view charts (OpenCPN or Time Zero), anchor alarm status, wind speed (and all related navigation information), battery status, solar panels etc. on any of the standard 5 mounted LED monitors on the vessel. The entire system cost him about US$1,000 (including the monitors). He can even split screen sailing info and watch a movie at the helm while on watch. His entire vast media library is 100% available at any station.

 

The best part: he has various alarms set up and the Raspberry Pi monitors. With the 12v LED monitors off, the system draws only 0.4 amps at 12 vdc. So, his anchor, battery voltage, or AIS alarms etc are all able to run 24/7.

 

While the vessel is in an anchorage or marina with internet connectivity, he can use his phone to remote access the entire onboard network to see the status of his boat systems. For example, he can check to see if the bilge pump has cycled and how many times.

 

I am a big proponent of using an onboard PC rather than a plotter and manufacture network (such as Raymarine’s Seatalk). I have all of my instruments connected to the ships computer and can display everything on one monitor (with an option for a second). However, my system is now about 8 years old and I was stunned to find the entire setup could be replaced with a US$99 Raspberry Pi.

 

I would be interested to hear about what others are using or if anyone plans to go this route.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: Volvo D3

Scott SV Tengah
 

Original D3-110C here with around 2600hours and I'm generally pretty happy with it. It's a very efficient engine so there are not only environmental benefits but the fuel consumption is phenomenally low for such a big boat.

I had a persistent problem with the "emergency stop switch" that is mounted on the starboard side of the engine. It's a non-sealed unit that is in the airflow path of the intake fan. I'm not the only one who has this problem. It's a small, but quite consequential problem. Easy to remedy, however. 

When I was first looking, there was an HR48 that had major problems with their Volvo and it came down to fuel problems. We met another HR with the D3-110C in Panama that had to drop out of World ARC because of fuel related problems. I believe they're still stuck there a year later. Traumatized by those accounts, I now religiously filter, using a Baja Filter, every single drop that goes into my tank. Then I add biocide as a tank lasts us a year on average.

For current D3 owners: The MAP / boost pressure sensor that is in the after cooler is easy to find. The first thing you shouldn't do is ask your Volvo Penta dealer, unless you like overpaying for that green paint. As some mentioned, this is the same engine in many Volvo cars, therefore the sensor is the same Bosch sensor, verified by the actual part number on the actual part. I paid $25 USD for mine vs. the $180 that the VP dealer wanted. You can pick it up at any auto parts store. It's made by Bosch, so I wouldn't even go to a Volvo car dealer as I'm sure they mark it up, too. I have used our replacement for a few hundred hours now with no problems. At that price, get a few of them.

https://www.rmeuropean.com/Products/31355463-MFG14.aspx

Further, you can read many of the error codes using a procedure outlined by the Electrical section of the Shop Manual, posted elsewhere on this forum. No need for VODIA. That's how we, at anchor, determined the problem was the boost pressure sensor.




--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Insurance

william reynolds
 

We reinsured  last year with Netherlands Insurance, based in Grenada with offices in Holland. NO underwriters. They are the carriers, insurers and underwriters.
They have insured large international commercial vessels for many years and have only recently offered policies to recreational vessels. They have no history with hurricane losses.We visited their offices on Well St. in Grenada and we were impressed with the professionalism of the company.  The rates  are a bit higher but  the coverage is excellent with 2  million liability, 10% of insured value for personal effects and no exclusion for lightning strikes. The deductible is fixed at 2% and 4% (yes that's 4%) for named storms. Navigational limits are worldwide!  
It's well worth looking into.
Bill Reynolds
Cloudstreet SM2K 331.


Re: Raspberry Pi

Mark Erdos
 

Thanks Paul, I enjoyed the read.

 

I think he was running Linux on the Pi. His Raspberry was powered by PoE (the router connection).

 

I am not sure if the TimeZero was running on the Pi or on the Windows PC. They are linked together. I think TZ only runs on Windows. He can open both on one monitor and the NMEA info is shared. This is something I can’t do with my set up. I can either run OpenCPN or TZ on my LCD monitor. But, not both. The GPS NMEA cannot be shared. I have to close one and open the other. But, the Raspberry Pi works around this.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Harries via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 2:40 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Raspberry Pi

 

Have you seen this?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/seabits.com/nmea-2000-powered-raspberry-pi/%3famp


Re: problems Engine #alignment

eric freedman
 

Hi Michael,

Once the engine is aligned with the tool using feeler gauges it is aligned.  By lifting the engine and replacing it without the alignment tool does nothing to the alignment. The alignment tool just slips off and is replaced by the vetus coupling. Just bolt her up and you are ready to go.

I also tried using a dial gauge, but the feeler gauge is much more accurate.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of michael winand via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 8:20 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] problems Engine #alignment

 

Thanks Eric, 

Great information. 

I don't have a shaft break, or shaft alternator,  a little simpler. 

So the alignment is still adjusting with feeler gauges? Or dial indicator on the two axis?

I would be concerned about the removal of the tool and reconnecting the coupling without it being checked again. 

Michael Nebo sm251 

 

On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 1:00 am, eric freedman

Hi Michael,again 

 

Some of the following might not apply if you do not have a disk brake.

 

The alignment is straight forward but slightly complicated.

The engine must be disconnected from the C drive and coupling.

The engine is then lifted, and the alignment tool is installed. The engine is dropped down and using the alignment tool and adjusting the engine mount adjustments the engine is aligned.

The engine is then lifted, and the tool is removed.

It is then dropped down and reassembled. You will need to make bolts from threaded rod to hold the coupling to the disk brake. The aluminum coupling in the photo that you received is one that I had made.

 

Attached is a few pages from Bill Rouse’s book which he translated from another members work.

The engine mounts you have might be different as you might have a Volvo and not a Yanmar engine.

 

The entire process takes about 6 hours, I just put a new engine in Kimberlite and start to finish it took me 4 ½ hours as I had replaced the engine mounts and donuts previously and I was familiar with the process.

 

The replacement of the donuts does not require removing the engine if it is just the donuts. You can just disconnect the engine , push it aft and replace the donuts and put the engine . However, if it were me I would do the entire process.

 

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of michael winand via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 1:07 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] problems Engine #alignment

 

Hi Dave,  Do you have experience working with the alignment tool?

I am interested in knowing how you can remove the tool once the engine is in alignment?

Can you please explain how long the vetas coupling rubbers should last?

Regards Michael Nebo sm251 

 

 

On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 2:22 pm, Davi Rozgonyi

I don't know the specific answer but I will say this: there are many otherwise fine mechanics who will insist they can bust that engine back on with their feeler gauges and holy water.... DON'T LET THEM DO IT WITHOUT THE TOOL. It can be fabbed up in 30 minutes at any machine shop. Without it you will chew up vetus couplings like tenderloin steak. 


Re: Raspberry Pi

Paul Harries
 

Have you seen this?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/seabits.com/nmea-2000-powered-raspberry-pi/%3famp


Re: Raspberry Pi

Paul Harries
 

What software was installed on the raspberry Pi?


On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 19:14, Mark Erdos
<mcerdos@...> wrote:

I am curious if anyone in this group is using Raspberry Pi’s as a computer aboard.

 

Yesterday, I was on a friends boat. His entire NMEA network, entertainment and programs were available on any monitor on the boat (via a wireless router). With a click of the mouse he can view charts (OpenCPN or Time Zero), anchor alarm status, wind speed (and all related navigation information), battery status, solar panels etc. on any of the standard 5 mounted LED monitors on the vessel. The entire system cost him about US$1,000 (including the monitors). He can even split screen sailing info and watch a movie at the helm while on watch. His entire vast media library is 100% available at any station.

 

The best part: he has various alarms set up and the Raspberry Pi monitors. With the 12v LED monitors off, the system draws only 0.4 amps at 12 vdc. So, his anchor, battery voltage, or AIS alarms etc are all able to run 24/7.

 

While the vessel is in an anchorage or marina with internet connectivity, he can use his phone to remote access the entire onboard network to see the status of his boat systems. For example, he can check to see if the bilge pump has cycled and how many times.

 

I am a big proponent of using an onboard PC rather than a plotter and manufacture network (such as Raymarine’s Seatalk). I have all of my instruments connected to the ships computer and can display everything on one monitor (with an option for a second). However, my system is now about 8 years old and I was stunned to find the entire setup could be replaced with a US$99 Raspberry Pi.

 

I would be interested to hear about what others are using or if anyone plans to go this route.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: problems Engine #alignment

michael winand
 

Thanks Eric, 
Great information. 
I don't have a shaft break, or shaft alternator,  a little simpler. 
So the alignment is still adjusting with feeler gauges? Or dial indicator on the two axis?
I would be concerned about the removal of the tool and reconnecting the coupling without it being checked again. 
Michael Nebo sm251 

On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 1:00 am, eric freedman
<kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Michael,again 

 

Some of the following might not apply if you do not have a disk brake.

 

The alignment is straight forward but slightly complicated.

The engine must be disconnected from the C drive and coupling.

The engine is then lifted, and the alignment tool is installed. The engine is dropped down and using the alignment tool and adjusting the engine mount adjustments the engine is aligned.

The engine is then lifted, and the tool is removed.

It is then dropped down and reassembled. You will need to make bolts from threaded rod to hold the coupling to the disk brake. The aluminum coupling in the photo that you received is one that I had made.

 

Attached is a few pages from Bill Rouse’s book which he translated from another members work.

The engine mounts you have might be different as you might have a Volvo and not a Yanmar engine.

 

The entire process takes about 6 hours, I just put a new engine in Kimberlite and start to finish it took me 4 ½ hours as I had replaced the engine mounts and donuts previously and I was familiar with the process.

 

The replacement of the donuts does not require removing the engine if it is just the donuts. You can just disconnect the engine , push it aft and replace the donuts and put the engine . However, if it were me I would do the entire process.

 

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of michael winand via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 1:07 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] problems Engine #alignment

 

Hi Dave,  Do you have experience working with the alignment tool?

I am interested in knowing how you can remove the tool once the engine is in alignment?

Can you please explain how long the vetas coupling rubbers should last?

Regards Michael Nebo sm251 

 

 

On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 2:22 pm, Davi Rozgonyi

I don't know the specific answer but I will say this: there are many otherwise fine mechanics who will insist they can bust that engine back on with their feeler gauges and holy water.... DON'T LET THEM DO IT WITHOUT THE TOOL. It can be fabbed up in 30 minutes at any machine shop. Without it you will chew up vetus couplings like tenderloin steak. 

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