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Re: Dessalator AC motor

Barry Connor
 

Hi Bill and All,

My 220v low pressure Dessalator pump started leaking after 10 years. The pump started leaking at the shaft motor connection going into the pump and needed to be rebuilt,  the stainless shaft from the electric motor going into the pump had rust groves. This meant that changing the seal was useless. The electric motor needed to be replaced. 
I tried to get answers for 3 months from Dessalator agents and was fortunate to be passing Antibes and called in to see Nicolas at Dessalator.
He was very helpful, explained everything and made up all the fittings that I needed and even made up a high pressure hose that I wanted. Gave me a very good price, less than the Dessalator agents wanted. He supplied a newer low pressure pump which he says will not have the shaft corrode like the old pump as they have been made with better stainless steel when making the shaft. Nicolas also told me not to buy the membranes and store them as they have a shelf life and to only buy them when you are going to change them.
I will stay with Dessalator even though they don't take credit cards. In my opinion you can trust them with a bank transfer. I paid cash though and at that time had to pass over the motorway at Antibes junction twice navigating the picketing Yellow Jackets to get to the nearest ATM.
The warehouse at Antibes is small but well stocked and they do ship daily from there.

All the Best

Barry and Penny
"Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54. #17
Marina di Ragusa. Sicily

On Wednesday, March 27, 2019, 10:21:10 AM EDT, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


I agree. Nicolas Bouffartigue is very helpful...and remember he was not working for Dessalator when they faked the TDS quality sensor in the D160 control PCB. 

Spectra is making a high capacity watermaker with an integrated and continuous TDS tester with a digital readout. BUT, you can adjust the readout up or down. Think about this. If you were buying a boat with this Spectra watermaker and relied on the integrated tester, what are you really relying on? Although Spectra has one of the best customer service departments of all watermaker companies, I really do not like the system.

I still believe the Dessalator watermaker to be one of the best available, but I admit that my experience with other brands is limited. Thankfully, all brands use basically the same membranes made by Filmtec.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 1:25 AM Rink De Haan <rinkdehaan@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Last year I had to replace the gap meter (the glass tube at the panel) of my D160 water maker. I contacted Nicolas Bouffartigue of Dessalator and was excellently helped both with the selection of the right model and the installation instructions.
So not always that bad.

Best regards
Rink
SM2K #330

 

Van: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io namens Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...>
Verzonden: woensdag, maart 27, 2019 2:39 AM
Aan: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator AC motor
 
Hi Mohammad,

Indeed, he is very helpful.  He knows these units like he designed them! :-)

However, Dessalator themselves are no use for after sales. 

Cheers to both of you.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007


On 27 Mar 2019, at 12:26, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Hi JP;

Try contacting Martin, their main tech support guy. He has always been very helpful to us and very knowledgeable. 

His number is +33 6 07 34 65 11 &    +34 637 890 333

Respectfully;


Mohammad And Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54 #099

On Mar 26, 2019, at 2:27 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre via Groups.Io <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

FWIW, I’ve resolved to bypass Dessalator for any spares. Their “after sales” service is inexistent.  They do not even have payment via CC.

We’ve been told this factor was important in their loss of the Lagoon contract.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM 007.


On 27 Mar 2019, at 10:20, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Thanks Arno and Bill

Exactly what I need.

This is indeed a standard 1hp/0.75kW motor.

Dessalator price Eu 500 .....Ebay generic motor A$130 !!

Problem solved, not worth repairing it

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Dessalator AC motor

 

I agree. Nicolas Bouffartigue is very helpful...and remember he was not working for Dessalator when they faked the TDS quality sensor in the D160 control PCB. 

Spectra is making a high capacity watermaker with an integrated and continuous TDS tester with a digital readout. BUT, you can adjust the readout up or down. Think about this. If you were buying a boat with this Spectra watermaker and relied on the integrated tester, what are you really relying on? Although Spectra has one of the best customer service departments of all watermaker companies, I really do not like the system.

I still believe the Dessalator watermaker to be one of the best available, but I admit that my experience with other brands is limited. Thankfully, all brands use basically the same membranes made by Filmtec.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 1:25 AM Rink De Haan <rinkdehaan@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Last year I had to replace the gap meter (the glass tube at the panel) of my D160 water maker. I contacted Nicolas Bouffartigue of Dessalator and was excellently helped both with the selection of the right model and the installation instructions.
So not always that bad.

Best regards
Rink
SM2K #330

 

Van: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io namens Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...>
Verzonden: woensdag, maart 27, 2019 2:39 AM
Aan: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator AC motor
 
Hi Mohammad,

Indeed, he is very helpful.  He knows these units like he designed them! :-)

However, Dessalator themselves are no use for after sales. 

Cheers to both of you.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007


On 27 Mar 2019, at 12:26, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Hi JP;

Try contacting Martin, their main tech support guy. He has always been very helpful to us and very knowledgeable. 

His number is +33 6 07 34 65 11 &    +34 637 890 333

Respectfully;


Mohammad And Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54 #099

On Mar 26, 2019, at 2:27 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre via Groups.Io <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

FWIW, I’ve resolved to bypass Dessalator for any spares. Their “after sales” service is inexistent.  They do not even have payment via CC.

We’ve been told this factor was important in their loss of the Lagoon contract.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM 007.


On 27 Mar 2019, at 10:20, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Thanks Arno and Bill

Exactly what I need.

This is indeed a standard 1hp/0.75kW motor.

Dessalator price Eu 500 .....Ebay generic motor A$130 !!

Problem solved, not worth repairing it

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Dessalator AC motor

Rink De Haan
 

Hi all,

Last year I had to replace the gap meter (the glass tube at the panel) of my D160 water maker. I contacted Nicolas Bouffartigue of Dessalator and was excellently helped both with the selection of the right model and the installation instructions.
So not always that bad.

Best regards
Rink
SM2K #330

 

Van: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io namens Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...>
Verzonden: woensdag, maart 27, 2019 2:39 AM
Aan: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator AC motor
 
Hi Mohammad,

Indeed, he is very helpful.  He knows these units like he designed them! :-)

However, Dessalator themselves are no use for after sales. 

Cheers to both of you.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007


On 27 Mar 2019, at 12:26, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Hi JP;

Try contacting Martin, their main tech support guy. He has always been very helpful to us and very knowledgeable. 

His number is +33 6 07 34 65 11 &    +34 637 890 333

Respectfully;


Mohammad And Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54 #099

On Mar 26, 2019, at 2:27 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre via Groups.Io <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

FWIW, I’ve resolved to bypass Dessalator for any spares. Their “after sales” service is inexistent.  They do not even have payment via CC.

We’ve been told this factor was important in their loss of the Lagoon contract.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM 007.


On 27 Mar 2019, at 10:20, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Thanks Arno and Bill

Exactly what I need.

This is indeed a standard 1hp/0.75kW motor.

Dessalator price Eu 500 .....Ebay generic motor A$130 !!

Problem solved, not worth repairing it

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Dessalator AC motor

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hi Mohammad,

Indeed, he is very helpful.  He knows these units like he designed them! :-)

However, Dessalator themselves are no use for after sales. 

Cheers to both of you.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007


On 27 Mar 2019, at 12:26, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Hi JP;

Try contacting Martin, their main tech support guy. He has always been very helpful to us and very knowledgeable. 

His number is +33 6 07 34 65 11 &    +34 637 890 333

Respectfully;


Mohammad And Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54 #099

On Mar 26, 2019, at 2:27 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre via Groups.Io <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

FWIW, I’ve resolved to bypass Dessalator for any spares. Their “after sales” service is inexistent.  They do not even have payment via CC.

We’ve been told this factor was important in their loss of the Lagoon contract.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM 007.


On 27 Mar 2019, at 10:20, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Thanks Arno and Bill

Exactly what I need.

This is indeed a standard 1hp/0.75kW motor.

Dessalator price Eu 500 .....Ebay generic motor A$130 !!

Problem solved, not worth repairing it

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Dessalator AC motor

Mark Pitt
 

Hi JP,

Martin has been an excellent source for me as well.  Very responsive and knowledgeable. Also, Dessalator accepts Paypal which I prefer to credit cards for parts purchases when the card is not present.

Best,

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM419


On Mar 26, 2019, at 7:26 PM, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Hi JP;

Try contacting Martin, their main tech support guy. He has always been very helpful to us and very knowledgeable. 

His number is +33 6 07 34 65 11 &    +34 637 890 333

Respectfully;


Mohammad And Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54 #099

On Mar 26, 2019, at 2:27 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre via Groups.Io <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

FWIW, I’ve resolved to bypass Dessalator for any spares. Their “after sales” service is inexistent.  They do not even have payment via CC.

We’ve been told this factor was important in their loss of the Lagoon contract.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM 007.


On 27 Mar 2019, at 10:20, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Thanks Arno and Bill

Exactly what I need.

This is indeed a standard 1hp/0.75kW motor.

Dessalator price Eu 500 .....Ebay generic motor A$130 !!

Problem solved, not worth repairing it

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Dessalator AC motor

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi JP;

Try contacting Martin, their main tech support guy. He has always been very helpful to us and very knowledgeable. 

His number is +33 6 07 34 65 11 &    +34 637 890 333

Respectfully;


Mohammad And Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54 #099

On Mar 26, 2019, at 2:27 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre via Groups.Io <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

FWIW, I’ve resolved to bypass Dessalator for any spares. Their “after sales” service is inexistent.  They do not even have payment via CC.

We’ve been told this factor was important in their loss of the Lagoon contract.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM 007.


On 27 Mar 2019, at 10:20, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Thanks Arno and Bill

Exactly what I need.

This is indeed a standard 1hp/0.75kW motor.

Dessalator price Eu 500 .....Ebay generic motor A$130 !!

Problem solved, not worth repairing it

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: French Boat, Great; French Manuals, not.

 

I uploaded SM 2000 manuals in English to this "FILES" folder: https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/files/Amel%20Super%20Maramu%20Manuals%20English
--
 
Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: Dessalator AC motor

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

FWIW, I’ve resolved to bypass Dessalator for any spares. Their “after sales” service is inexistent.  They do not even have payment via CC.

We’ve been told this factor was important in their loss of the Lagoon contract.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM 007.


On 27 Mar 2019, at 10:20, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Thanks Arno and Bill

Exactly what I need.

This is indeed a standard 1hp/0.75kW motor.

Dessalator price Eu 500 .....Ebay generic motor A$130 !!

Problem solved, not worth repairing it

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Dessalator AC motor

Alan Leslie
 

Thanks Arno and Bill

Exactly what I need.

This is indeed a standard 1hp/0.75kW motor.

Dessalator price Eu 500 .....Ebay generic motor A$130 !!

Problem solved, not worth repairing it

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: French Boat, Great; French Manuals, not.

 

Do you need a French or English manual?
--
 
Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: French Boat, Great; French Manuals, not.

Nicolas Klene
 

hi Bob & Mina
lucky you ,i'm looking for one myself !!!
I'm french ....but not a professionel translator !!!!willing to help though .


Re: Dessalator AC motor

 

Alan,

I checked the manufacturer's product catalog for the EBS 80k 230v motor. Page 19 shows that the shaft is 19mm.
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I did not attach it to this email because of the size.

If you want the catalog, open the private email I sent you.

I hope this helps you.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:44 AM Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
Hi Allan,

I have an Amel 54 with the 100 Duo watermaker, it uses the same 230V motor as the 60 Duo as far as I know because mine has been replaced (motor is from 2011 and boat is from 2009). The motor carries a sticker from Desalinator stating is was the motor for the 60 liter version.

This is a picture of the sticker identifying the model:


I just had the whole thing out of the boat to refurbish the lot but did not look at the shaft diameter, sorry. Maybe the manufacturer of the motor can let you know this.


Re: Dessalator AC motor

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Allan,

I have an Amel 54 with the 100 Duo watermaker, it uses the same 230V motor as the 60 Duo as far as I know because mine has been replaced (motor is from 2011 and boat is from 2009). The motor carries a sticker from Desalinator stating is was the motor for the 60 liter version.

This is a picture of the sticker identifying the model:


I just had the whole thing out of the boat to refurbish the lot but did not look at the shaft diameter, sorry. Maybe the manufacturer of the motor can let you know this.


Re: Removing the original Vetus Coupler on SM

Dan Wilcox
 

I'm pretty sure the shaft is steel.. and also the part that attaches to the shaft.  The Aluminum part is just the housing that is loosely fit with the 4 tension bolts and houses the 4 rubber nubs.

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend SM #86


Re: Long term storage options in southern Caribbean

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hi James,

In company with another boat owned by a former Minister of the French Govt, we encountered few problems except the incredibly bureaucracy to check into the islands.  MIND YOU, THIS WAS LAST YEAR and I would not go there now unless I had VLAD the PUTIN on my crew list!!

The islands are fabulous and the people warm and charming.  Dont talk about Maduro….

:-)

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM 007



On 24 Mar 2019, at 09:19, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

I'd like to ask the forum for recommendations on safe and affordable locations for storing our boat for 3 - 4 months.  
Martinique is a great option, but there are perhaps better locations for getting work manual labor type jobs done at more affordable rates.  
Grenada seems to be historically a popular place, but I wonder about the current situation with more instability in nearby Venezuela.

Any advice or recommendations is greatly appreciated!

Best,
James Cromie
SV Soteria #347
Culebra


Re: Removing the original Vetus Coupler on SM

eric freedman
 

Hi Dan,

This is how I removed the disk

The 3 bolts worked quite well. It took a bit of time but I did get it off. You will need a number of different length bolts. If I remember correctly the vetus coupling and the shaft are the exact same diameter 35 mm. I had the machine shop cut the opening a few thousands larger. Then it was a very snug fit but easily removable. You have to get a new coupling  from Amel-Amel modified the coupling.

 

Once you have the engine up to replace the mounts , you need the tool in the photo that I made. It is the aluminum one.

You can then align the Yanmar coupling to the output shaft. The color photos attached shows the tool made by Amel to align the same as my aluminum one.  Mine is much simpler and worked fine. Drawing attached for the machine shop. Once aligned you lift the engine again remove the alignment tool and replace the disk and Vetus coupling.

Its late and I might have missed something , I am also not on the boat..

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Wilcox via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 4:30 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Removing the original Vetus Coupler on SM

 

Hoping someone can provide some wisdom for removing what I believe to be the original vetus coupler.  Unfortunately is has gone past its prime and a new one is needed.  That said we have used a wheel puller to remove it, but with no luck.  Before I try a torch or just cutting it off I wanted to get a read from the group.

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend SM #86


Re: Long term storage options in southern Caribbean

Dan Carlson
 

James, we also stored our SM#387 at Peake Yacht Services from June 2017-Nov 2018.  We were pleased with the yard and the services.  We did not have much work done, but would go back again. We hauled out at Cuacao Marine this past year to position our boat for this current season in the western Carribean. 

Would be happy to answer any more questions.

Regards, Dan and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387



On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 4:56 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
Giorgio - Thank you so much for the info!  I will definitely contact Daniella.  I have heard that there is some concern of piracy / theft when sailing between Trinidad and Grenada or near the Venezuela coast in that region. I believe that air and sea travel has been suspended on the border of Trinidad and Venezuela based on the UK.gov website.. 

-James
On Mar 23, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Giorgio Ardrizzi <giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:

Hi James, I left for the second year my Amel Sharki from Peake Shipyard in Chaguaramas Bay Trinidad.
The shipyard works like a Swiss watch and all the staff is very helpful.
The prices compared to the various marinas on the islands are much lower and the service it's great.
They have a shipchandler inside and various technicians capable of performing any kind of work.
In addition, Trinidad is practically at the lower end of the hurricane belt and is an event that occurred 3 or 4 times in a century.
In this moment there are 4 Amel in the yard.
Write an email to Daniella, the person responsible for the reservations and get a quote for your boat.
The address is: reservations@...

If you want more info I am at your disposal.
Good luck.
Giorgio Ardrizzi
Saudade III - Sharki #1


Il Sab 23 Mar 2019, 21:19 James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> ha scritto:
I'd like to ask the forum for recommendations on safe and affordable locations for storing our boat for 3 - 4 months.  
Martinique is a great option, but there are perhaps better locations for getting work manual labor type jobs done at more affordable rates.  
Grenada seems to be historically a popular place, but I wonder about the current situation with more instability in nearby Venezuela.

Any advice or recommendations is greatly appreciated!

Best,
James Cromie
SV Soteria #347
Culebra




Re: Anchor Chain - Amel Mango

Dan Carlson
 

Alan, that sounds like good performance from your anchor chain.  We just purchased the same this past November.  

Can you give me an idea of how much you use your anchor each year and where you are located to help me with my expectations.  

We are in the Caribbean, living on our boat for about 7 months a season, spending about 70% of the time on anchor and moving anchorage about 20 times per season (about once per week).

Thanks and regards, Dan and Lori Carlson on SM#387, sv BeBe



On Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 6:47 AM Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@... wrote:
We replaced ours in 2014 with 100m of Maggi Aqua G4 10mm.
We end for ended it last year and it is performing very well.
The most important issue is to ensure the chain link size fits the gypsy on your windlass.
Our Lofrans Tigres was ISO 10mm 

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Painting the lockers

Arlo
 

Well after several of you have posted about anchor locker repair and the like, I have decided to inspect mine and do some maintenance on them before they get to be a problem. They are in need of some TLC, but no apparent leaks or water ingress problems that I have seen yet. So I have 2 questions for the collective wisdom of this group...

1) Amel used Gel-coat on the inside of the lockers forward and aft. I have worked with Gelcoat before but wanted to ask those that have done the locker refresh. Did you paint or use gelcoat and how is it holding up? I was also considering Bilgecoat. Either one will have to be tinted to match the creme color on the boat.... The Gelcoat is certainly going to handle scrapes and the like better than paint, but it is also somewhat brittle so tends to crack instead of flexing over time too...

2) Looking to replace the rubber seals on the deck lockers. Anyone have a favorite source for these rubber gasket seals for the hatches (and freezer too) ? I know they are all over the Internet, but figured I'd ask the group here.

Thoughts?

Thanks
Arlo


Re: Removing the original Vetus Coupler on SM

John Clark
 

Just want to jump in maybe in ignorance but motivated by caution.  Mention of cutting and torches raises an alarm bell with me.

I have SM37 with a steel cdrive.  A friend has a close hull number with the aluminum drive. It was easy to remove.  Done in Martinique by Amel and subcontractor.  Are you saying you have the aluminum drive and the mounting bolts are loose in their holes?

I think I have a near original vetus coupling (I think the original owner had the aluminum drive replaced with steel when Amel offered a free replacement in the early years.) The coupling looks aged but does not leak or allow any significant movement of the c drive underway.

I would suggest asking for Amel technical assistance, or Olivier Beaute, or Bill Rouse...before taking aggressive action.

John
SV Annie SM 37
Brunswick GA. 


On Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 6:36 PM Dan Wilcox via Groups.Io <dwilcox123=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Unfortunately yes... The rubber bushings were so far gone it started to warp the 4 bolt holes in the aluminium hosing.  The 4 studs also showed cracks by 2 of the studs.  So this was long overdue.  

As a side note I'm also replacing all the engine mounts for the engine rail.  When I took the first one off it was reduced to rubber powder inside.  So many project to get this beauty back into prime condition.

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend SM #86

On Monday, March 25, 2019, 3:15:37 PM PDT, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:


Hi Dan.

are you sure the outer housing is beyond redemption?. Ie is the internal shape seriously compromised. External rust is not a reason to replace. It is seriously difficult to remove from the input shaft of the C drive. There are rubber bushes in the unit on a cross that need replacing periodically, preferably before you get metal to meal contact.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 26 March 2019 at 09:29 "Dan Wilcox via Groups.Io" <dwilcox123=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hoping someone can provide some wisdom for removing what I believe to be the original vetus coupler.  Unfortunately is has gone past its prime and a new one is needed.  That said we have used a wheel puller to remove it, but with no luck.  Before I try a torch or just cutting it off I wanted to get a read from the group.

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend SM #86