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Photos - Changed to give each member the ability to change the sort of the photos

CW Bill Rouse
 

The Groups.io Developer changed something in the Photos album that you may not notice. There is now a sort button located in the upper right. The default sort is newest first. If you change the photo sort to alphabetical using the sort button, you will change your future "default photo search." You can change the sort at will.

This is the notice I received: "I've changed the default sort for both the album view as well as within each album to be most recent first....I've just pushed a change that will remember a user's sort field/order when viewing the Photos section. I will add remembering sort field/order when viewing an album."
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Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Re: Using email

Paul Dowd <paul.dowd@...>
 

Thanks Mark, good to hear and very convenient!

 

 

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Erdos
Sent: 22 March 2019 14:17
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Using email

 

Paul,

 

Yes, you can reply just as you would any email.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - San Blas Islands, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 3:07 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Using email

 

Hi,

With this new group I now get all messages emailed, which is very convenient. Is it possible to use email to reply and therefore not need to go to the forum on the web?

--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Potential Yahoo Email Problems if you are using a Yahoo! email address #Yahoo

Alan Leslie
 

Thanks Bill....done that...dumped the yahoo address
this is MUCH better
Well done mate !
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Re: Anchor Chain - Amel Mango

Alan Leslie
 

We replaced ours in 2014 with 100m of Maggi Aqua G4 10mm.
We end for ended it last year and it is performing very well.
The most important issue is to ensure the chain link size fits the gypsy on your windlass.
Our Lofrans Tigres was ISO 10mm 

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Re: Navionics chart plotter chips --Discontinued??

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Eric,

It doesn't seem to be that big a deal, take a look at :

https://www.gps-repeaters.com/blog/gps-week-number-rollover-april-6th-2019/

Where they say :

"This situation won’t affect a receiver’s ability to navigate and/or calculate precise time, but it has the potential to create week, month and year timestamps that are wildly wrong"

So if all you are using your GPS for is to navigate...that's certainly what I use it for...it shouldn't be a big issue.

And as they say here ;

"if unsure the best advice is to check with the manufacturer of the devices you use"


I checked with Furuno's website about our GP-90 Navigator and they say it's not an issue for that unit.

All the best
Alan
Elyse SM437
Re: Dessalator AC motor

Alan Leslie
 

OK,
I now know that the AC motor is:
0.75kW (1 hp)
1400 rpm
220 V AC

Does anyone know, or could measure, the shaft size ?

19mm seems pretty common for cement mixer motors with the above specs.

I'm not on Elyse, otherwise I would measure it and then I would know.

Thanks
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Re: Med Berth

Wolfgang Weber
 

If you look for Palma try La Lonja Marina. I paid 2.000 € per month in July/August. But if you need the place for months Valencia, near Barcelona or Alicante should be much cheaper.
If you don't sail for months go to Port Napoleone/France and put hear on the hard.
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 
Re: Navionics chart plotter chips --Discontinued??

eric freedman
 

Thanks for the info Ryan.

I am actually more concerned about the April 6 gps time change.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ryan Meador
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 6:57 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Navionics chart plotter chips --Discontinued??

 

I'm not terribly surprised by this news -- CompactFlash is an ancient standard introduced in 90s.  SD has taken over most of the market.  Chart plotters that are old enough to use CF and owned by people who actually keep their charts up to date are probably a minuscule part of the market at this point.  I'm guessing you're one of those unlucky few who are no longer economically viable to support.  I assume you don't want to replace your chart plotter? :D

 

Do you have to buy physical chart cards at all?  Can you just keep updating the ones you have through your computer, so it doesn't matter that they won't sell you a new one?  I update mine every month or so, and only had to purchase the original (SD) card the very first time I bought the chart.

 

If you must get a new card for some reason, there are SD to CompactFlash adapters available (some are on Amazon), which might allow you to use an SD card version of the charts in your plotter.  I have no idea if the SD card format is exactly the same, so who knows if it will work.

 

Have you tried contacting Navionics for their recommendation on how to proceed?

 

Ryan and Kelly

SM 233 Iteration

Lynyard Cay, Abacos

 

 

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 10:53 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

 

 

I heard from a friend that Navionics is discontinuing the compact flash cards for many chart plotters.

Have anyone heard this?

If so what can be done to upgrade the chart chips or get new ones?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 
Re: Navionics chart plotter chips --Discontinued??

Ryan Meador
 

I'm not terribly surprised by this news -- CompactFlash is an ancient standard introduced in 90s.  SD has taken over most of the market.  Chart plotters that are old enough to use CF and owned by people who actually keep their charts up to date are probably a minuscule part of the market at this point.  I'm guessing you're one of those unlucky few who are no longer economically viable to support.  I assume you don't want to replace your chart plotter? :D

Do you have to buy physical chart cards at all?  Can you just keep updating the ones you have through your computer, so it doesn't matter that they won't sell you a new one?  I update mine every month or so, and only had to purchase the original (SD) card the very first time I bought the chart.

If you must get a new card for some reason, there are SD to CompactFlash adapters available (some are on Amazon), which might allow you to use an SD card version of the charts in your plotter.  I have no idea if the SD card format is exactly the same, so who knows if it will work.

Have you tried contacting Navionics for their recommendation on how to proceed?

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Lynyard Cay, Abacos


On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 10:53 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

 

 

I heard from a friend that Navionics is discontinuing the compact flash cards for many chart plotters.

Have anyone heard this?

If so what can be done to upgrade the chart chips or get new ones?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 
Re: Med Berth

Steve Bell s/y Dusk SM378
 

Thanks Bill,
                   We are looking at various options so suggestions are most welcome i  just thought i would put it out there on the off chance someone may know or have something due to the fact our son works/lives in Majorca  and could look after her during our absence.
 Regards

Steve
Re: Anchor Chain - Amel Mango

Arlo
 

I replaced mine last year with 100 meters of 3/8 G4 chain. 
Re: Long term storage options in southern Caribbean

Ian Park
 

We sailed from Chagueramas to Grenada just after the pirate attack on ‘White Jumbo’ - a racing yacht.
We had sailed at night, close by the oil platforms. The intelligence at the time was that the Venezuelan ‘pirates’ were being directed from ‘friends’ working on the oil platforms using mobile phones. Advice was to avoid sight of the oil platforms, and to sail at night as the ‘pirates’ could only navigate by eyeball.
Things died down quite quickly due to the efforts of the Trinidad marine Authorities and the US navy aircraft, plus the outstanding efforts of the Ocean Cruising Club Port Officer for Trinidad, Jesse James. A man well worth contacting if you go to Chagueramas.
If you are unsure, get on the internet and see when the last pirate attack was in the area. I guess it may now just be more hearsay than fact.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96
Re: Long term storage options in southern Caribbean

CW Bill Rouse
 

Giorgio,

I agree with you completely, although my experience is 3 years old. At that time we visited Chaguaramas, Trinidad for hurricane season. The exaggeration of the "pirate" issue reached epic proportions, with the sighting of any fisherman, Trinidadian or Venezuelan, transformed into a pirate attack. Unfortunately many sailors use a direct route between Grenada and Trinidad, causing a close encounter with Venezuela's coastline and a close encounter with the starving population.

The absolute best source of accurate information on Trinidad and routes from Grenada is:
Jesse James
Tel:+1 868 6835202

Jesse is the Port Host for SSCA and Ocean Cruising Club. He also runs a Taxi and tour service. 

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 7:02 AM Giorgio Ardrizzi <giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:
James, it is true that there have been some episodes of attacks in past years, but lately the situation is calm. The Coast Guard of Trinidad controls the coasts and in any case they were Venezuelan fishermen with small motor boats. Their attacks were no more than 10 miles from the coast.
However, to avoid problems, I left Grenada ten days ago and took a route that took me 10 miles east of Boca del Dragon, arriving at first light in the morning. Except for a few ships, I didn't see anyone, not even fishermen. In the following days many boats arrived and many more will be arriving from Virgin Islands next month.
By now the pirates issue has become an exaggerated urban legend, fueled also by the various Marina of the islands who are interested in retaining their boats from them.
I don't particularly like Trinidad, but I consider Chaguaramas Bay a very well organized place to leave my boat safe for 8 months from theft, various accidents and hurricanes at a reasonable price.

Il Sab 23 Mar 2019, 22:56 James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> ha scritto:
Giorgio - Thank you so much for the info!  I will definitely contact Daniella.  I have heard that there is some concern of piracy / theft when sailing between Trinidad and Grenada or near the Venezuela coast in that region. I believe that air and sea travel has been suspended on the border of Trinidad and Venezuela based on the UK.gov website.. 

-James
On Mar 23, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Giorgio Ardrizzi <giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:

Hi James, I left for the second year my Amel Sharki from Peake Shipyard in Chaguaramas Bay Trinidad.
The shipyard works like a Swiss watch and all the staff is very helpful.
The prices compared to the various marinas on the islands are much lower and the service it's great.
They have a shipchandler inside and various technicians capable of performing any kind of work.
In addition, Trinidad is practically at the lower end of the hurricane belt and is an event that occurred 3 or 4 times in a century.
In this moment there are 4 Amel in the yard.
Write an email to Daniella, the person responsible for the reservations and get a quote for your boat.
The address is: reservations@...

If you want more info I am at your disposal.
Good luck.
Giorgio Ardrizzi
Saudade III - Sharki #1


Il Sab 23 Mar 2019, 21:19 James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> ha scritto:
I'd like to ask the forum for recommendations on safe and affordable locations for storing our boat for 3 - 4 months.  
Martinique is a great option, but there are perhaps better locations for getting work manual labor type jobs done at more affordable rates.  
Grenada seems to be historically a popular place, but I wonder about the current situation with more instability in nearby Venezuela.

Any advice or recommendations is greatly appreciated!

Best,
James Cromie
SV Soteria #347
Culebra



Re: Dessalator duo 60 warning light

Thomas Peacock
 

One more thought, having lost much hair getting my water maker to work after new membranes:

Have you sampled and tested the “fresh” water output just before the red light comes on? If it is too salty, the switch will trip and shut it down. I had this problem because of incorrectly installed O-rings with the membrane. I am assuming new O-rings were installed with the new membranes?

Tom Peacock
Aletes SM 240
St Augustine, Florida



On Mar 24, 2019, at 9:36 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Alan,

Some random observations:
  1. The pressure knob should be turned all the way anticlockwise when flushing.
  2. It is possible that you have some sort of failure with the 24VDC bypass solenoid
  3. You should not have any waterflow showing in the glass waterflow indicator when flushing with freshwater.  I think it is possible that something is causing freshwater to pass through the tube and V shaped Brine seals to the product water pathway. The possible causes could be damaged V shaped Brine seals, something wrong in the assembly of the membranes, tubes and end caps, or possibly something wrong with the bypass solenoid. 
  4. The most common "Red Light" shutdown is because the high pressure sensor senses too high pressure. This is commonly caused by a defective pressure gauge. In other words, the actual pressure is higher than 50 bar and the sensor shuts the system down. I was supporting a client yesterday with this defective pressure gauge issue. I had him turn the pressure valve to about 1/2" short of the green. His system did not shut down and began making about 60 liters per hour.
  5. Flow indication when the pressure valve is completely turned anticlockwise and flushing with freshwater may be an indication of incorrect orientation of the tube end caps causing the shaped brine seal to be ineffective i.e. oriented the wrong way. It might also be caused by the hoses connected in reversed locations.
Take a look at the attached PDF, which is a page from my book. 

Be very careful because even the slightest reverse pressure (1-2 BAR) through the membranes will damage the membranes and cause them to be ineffective. By reverse pressure, I mean water flowing backwards from the product water output back into the membrane tubes. Unfortunately some people refer to the process of freshwater flushing as "backwashing." It is not. Freshwater flushing flushes the entire saltwater pathway and only the outside of the membranes.

I hope this helps.
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 7:15 PM Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:
Hi Eric, yes I removed both hoses from the membranes and I got water out.
We turned the knob increasing the pressure slowly. We were just in the green and we had product water start to flow, however we had looked away from the gauge when everything stopped and the warning light came on. We can fresh water flush and water flows thru and we have 10 liters  per hour on the flow meter.
Regards
Alan
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Sent: Saturday, 23 March 2019 11:46:39 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator duo 60 warning light
 

HI,

If I understand you correctly you disconnected both hoses from the membranes and the unit still went to the red alarm position. I assume you had no low pressure showing on the gauge, is that correct?

Or do you have low pressure in the green but the alarm light is on .

With the hoses disconnected from the membranes did water come out of either hose?

 

I went through the entire system last system with a problem  it even stumped  the USA Desalator rep.

I do have the 160, however, I might be able to help if you would reply.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Grayson
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 7:21 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator duo 60 warning light

 

Hi All, I started my water maker for the first time and I have a problem.
i put new membranes in and flushed it with fresh water for about 15 mins. I ran sea water thru it for about 5mins then started to slowly increase the pressure while checking for leaks. Once the needle was in the green it started producing product water but after about 1 min the warning light came on and now nothing runs. I was using the 24v side. I released the pressure knob and even unhooked the pressure lines then tried again. The red warning light came straight on. I reset the 24V breaker in the engine bay and checked the 2 fuses in the control box in the lazarette. I then tried the 220v side and had the same result.
does anyone have any ideas?
Regards
Alan Grayson
SV Ora Pai, SM 406
Cat Cay Bahamas




<Dessalator Membrane Orientation and  HP hose connections.pdf>
Re: Dessalator duo 60 warning light

CW Bill Rouse
 

Alan,

Some random observations:
  1. The pressure knob should be turned all the way anticlockwise when flushing.
  2. It is possible that you have some sort of failure with the 24VDC bypass solenoid
  3. You should not have any waterflow showing in the glass waterflow indicator when flushing with freshwater.  I think it is possible that something is causing freshwater to pass through the tube and V shaped Brine seals to the product water pathway. The possible causes could be damaged V shaped Brine seals, something wrong in the assembly of the membranes, tubes and end caps, or possibly something wrong with the bypass solenoid. 
  4. The most common "Red Light" shutdown is because the high pressure sensor senses too high pressure. This is commonly caused by a defective pressure gauge. In other words, the actual pressure is higher than 50 bar and the sensor shuts the system down. I was supporting a client yesterday with this defective pressure gauge issue. I had him turn the pressure valve to about 1/2" short of the green. His system did not shut down and began making about 60 liters per hour.
  5. Flow indication when the pressure valve is completely turned anticlockwise and flushing with freshwater may be an indication of incorrect orientation of the tube end caps causing the shaped brine seal to be ineffective i.e. oriented the wrong way. It might also be caused by the hoses connected in reversed locations.
Take a look at the attached PDF, which is a page from my book. 

Be very careful because even the slightest reverse pressure (1-2 BAR) through the membranes will damage the membranes and cause them to be ineffective. By reverse pressure, I mean water flowing backwards from the product water output back into the membrane tubes. Unfortunately some people refer to the process of freshwater flushing as "backwashing." It is not. Freshwater flushing flushes the entire saltwater pathway and only the outside of the membranes.

I hope this helps.
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 7:15 PM Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:
Hi Eric, yes I removed both hoses from the membranes and I got water out.
We turned the knob increasing the pressure slowly. We were just in the green and we had product water start to flow, however we had looked away from the gauge when everything stopped and the warning light came on. We can fresh water flush and water flows thru and we have 10 liters  per hour on the flow meter.
Regards
Alan
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Sent: Saturday, 23 March 2019 11:46:39 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator duo 60 warning light
 

HI,

If I understand you correctly you disconnected both hoses from the membranes and the unit still went to the red alarm position. I assume you had no low pressure showing on the gauge, is that correct?

Or do you have low pressure in the green but the alarm light is on .

With the hoses disconnected from the membranes did water come out of either hose?

 

I went through the entire system last system with a problem  it even stumped  the USA Desalator rep.

I do have the 160, however, I might be able to help if you would reply.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Grayson
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 7:21 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator duo 60 warning light

 

Hi All, I started my water maker for the first time and I have a problem.
i put new membranes in and flushed it with fresh water for about 15 mins. I ran sea water thru it for about 5mins then started to slowly increase the pressure while checking for leaks. Once the needle was in the green it started producing product water but after about 1 min the warning light came on and now nothing runs. I was using the 24v side. I released the pressure knob and even unhooked the pressure lines then tried again. The red warning light came straight on. I reset the 24V breaker in the engine bay and checked the 2 fuses in the control box in the lazarette. I then tried the 220v side and had the same result.
does anyone have any ideas?
Regards
Alan Grayson
SV Ora Pai, SM 406
Cat Cay Bahamas

PDF
Dessalator Membrane Orientation and HP hose connections.pdf

Re: Long term storage options in southern Caribbean

Giorgio Ardrizzi
 

James, it is true that there have been some episodes of attacks in past years, but lately the situation is calm. The Coast Guard of Trinidad controls the coasts and in any case they were Venezuelan fishermen with small motor boats. Their attacks were no more than 10 miles from the coast.
However, to avoid problems, I left Grenada ten days ago and took a route that took me 10 miles east of Boca del Dragon, arriving at first light in the morning. Except for a few ships, I didn't see anyone, not even fishermen. In the following days many boats arrived and many more will be arriving from Virgin Islands next month.
By now the pirates issue has become an exaggerated urban legend, fueled also by the various Marina of the islands who are interested in retaining their boats from them.
I don't particularly like Trinidad, but I consider Chaguaramas Bay a very well organized place to leave my boat safe for 8 months from theft, various accidents and hurricanes at a reasonable price.


Il Sab 23 Mar 2019, 22:56 James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> ha scritto:
Giorgio - Thank you so much for the info!  I will definitely contact Daniella.  I have heard that there is some concern of piracy / theft when sailing between Trinidad and Grenada or near the Venezuela coast in that region. I believe that air and sea travel has been suspended on the border of Trinidad and Venezuela based on the UK.gov website.. 

-James
On Mar 23, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Giorgio Ardrizzi <giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:

Hi James, I left for the second year my Amel Sharki from Peake Shipyard in Chaguaramas Bay Trinidad.
The shipyard works like a Swiss watch and all the staff is very helpful.
The prices compared to the various marinas on the islands are much lower and the service it's great.
They have a shipchandler inside and various technicians capable of performing any kind of work.
In addition, Trinidad is practically at the lower end of the hurricane belt and is an event that occurred 3 or 4 times in a century.
In this moment there are 4 Amel in the yard.
Write an email to Daniella, the person responsible for the reservations and get a quote for your boat.
The address is: reservations@...

If you want more info I am at your disposal.
Good luck.
Giorgio Ardrizzi
Saudade III - Sharki #1


Il Sab 23 Mar 2019, 21:19 James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> ha scritto:
I'd like to ask the forum for recommendations on safe and affordable locations for storing our boat for 3 - 4 months.  
Martinique is a great option, but there are perhaps better locations for getting work manual labor type jobs done at more affordable rates.  
Grenada seems to be historically a popular place, but I wonder about the current situation with more instability in nearby Venezuela.

Any advice or recommendations is greatly appreciated!

Best,
James Cromie
SV Soteria #347
Culebra



Re: Lee Sails or equivalent

Hajé Weisfelt
 

Hi Miles,

I bought mine 10 years ago. Als plain slab reefs. Saved more then 70% compared to Elstrom or Gaastra. G1 and Mizzen are now bit worn, but still in shape. Main, g2, jib, storm jib still as new. Level of communication to customer was great. I wanted the stainless wire in the reefs and they didn't understand this at first. Several photos and drawing further they said oké and four weeks later I had my sails.
Still 100% satisfied. 
Cheers, Hajé 
Sharki 104, Charmed II, Herkingen, Holland

Op ma 18 mrt. 2019 20:16 schreef smiles bernard via Groups.Io <smilesbernard=yahoo.com@groups.io>:

Hello

Does anyone have any experience of Lee Sails?

We are considering them as an almost half price alternative for UK manufactured sails.

Normally we get what we pay to a degree  but the price difference is enough for me to pause and consider.

Our Maramu has the single spreader isomat masts without furler ( just slab reefing ) so reasonably simple sails

I am being quoted for fully battened with cars that go into the mast luff box - we have them currently and they work ok.

Any thoughts or experience most welcome

Many thanks

Miles
Maramu 162
Anchor Chain - Amel Mango

Ian Bone
 

Hello All, 
I am seeking information about the anchor chain on my Mango.
The chain is due for replacement soon and I'm considering replacement options. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Ian
Dessalator duo 60 warning light

eric freedman
 

Hi Alan,

Sounds similar to my problem. I had a bad hose connected to the membranes. It looked fine outside but partially collapsed on the inside.  That could be your problem. I basically rebuilt everything and the last thing that I did not replace or rebuild was the 2 hoses on the hp pump.

 

Does your water quality sensor actually work? On many older Super Maramu’s  Dessalator

supplied a water quality sensor but it was not connected to the circuitry, do you know if you water quality sensor is actually working? On the older Super Maramu’s the green light was connected to a timer circuit and in about 2 minutes the green light went on regardless of the quality of the water—just an aside.

 

Just as an aside, if I recall correctly you are supposed to disconnect the output water from a new set of membranes and hook the output to a hose and run it into the bilge. You should run the watermaker for 20-30 minutes to flush out the sanitizing solution. That was from the USA Dessalator rep.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Grayson
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 8:15 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator duo 60 warning light

 

Hi Eric, yes I removed both hoses from the membranes and I got water out.
We turned the knob increasing the pressure slowly. We were just in the green and we had product water start to flow, however we had looked away from the gauge when everything stopped and the warning light came on. We can fresh water flush and water flows thru and we have 10 liters  per hour on the flow meter.
Regards
Alan

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Sent: Saturday, 23 March 2019 11:46:39 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator duo 60 warning light

 

HI,

If I understand you correctly you disconnected both hoses from the membranes and the unit still went to the red alarm position. I assume you had no low pressure showing on the gauge, is that correct?

Or do you have low pressure in the green but the alarm light is on .

With the hoses disconnected from the membranes did water come out of either hose?

 

I went through the entire system last system with a problem  it even stumped  the USA Desalator rep.

I do have the 160, however, I might be able to help if you would reply.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Grayson
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 7:21 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator duo 60 warning light

 

Hi All, I started my water maker for the first time and I have a problem.
i put new membranes in and flushed it with fresh water for about 15 mins. I ran sea water thru it for about 5mins then started to slowly increase the pressure while checking for leaks. Once the needle was in the green it started producing product water but after about 1 min the warning light came on and now nothing runs. I was using the 24v side. I released the pressure knob and even unhooked the pressure lines then tried again. The red warning light came straight on. I reset the 24V breaker in the engine bay and checked the 2 fuses in the control box in the lazarette. I then tried the 220v side and had the same result.
does anyone have any ideas?
Regards
Alan Grayson
SV Ora Pai, SM 406
Cat Cay Bahamas

Re: Dessalator duo 60 warning light

Alan Grayson
 

Hi Eric, yes I removed both hoses from the membranes and I got water out.
We turned the knob increasing the pressure slowly. We were just in the green and we had product water start to flow, however we had looked away from the gauge when everything stopped and the warning light came on. We can fresh water flush and water flows thru and we have 10 liters  per hour on the flow meter.
Regards
Alan
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Sent: Saturday, 23 March 2019 11:46:39 PM
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HI,

If I understand you correctly you disconnected both hoses from the membranes and the unit still went to the red alarm position. I assume you had no low pressure showing on the gauge, is that correct?

Or do you have low pressure in the green but the alarm light is on .

With the hoses disconnected from the membranes did water come out of either hose?

 

I went through the entire system last system with a problem  it even stumped  the USA Desalator rep.

I do have the 160, however, I might be able to help if you would reply.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Grayson
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 7:21 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator duo 60 warning light

 

Hi All, I started my water maker for the first time and I have a problem.
i put new membranes in and flushed it with fresh water for about 15 mins. I ran sea water thru it for about 5mins then started to slowly increase the pressure while checking for leaks. Once the needle was in the green it started producing product water but after about 1 min the warning light came on and now nothing runs. I was using the 24v side. I released the pressure knob and even unhooked the pressure lines then tried again. The red warning light came straight on. I reset the 24V breaker in the engine bay and checked the 2 fuses in the control box in the lazarette. I then tried the 220v side and had the same result.
does anyone have any ideas?
Regards
Alan Grayson
SV Ora Pai, SM 406
Cat Cay Bahamas