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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi again Alan, I see I only answered one question. I believe it goes into an embedded plate. The other nut, I forget (i'm not on board) but it was not an issue. Regards Danny
On 24 March 2019 at 00:20 Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
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Re: Ballooner
Patrick McAneny
Danny, That is everything I wanted to know and then some. Thanks for the extra tips at no extra charge. Glad you are enjoying the pics,that’s Diane’s doing .
Thanks again, Pat SM Shenanigans The Baths, BVIs
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Re: Ballooner
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Pat, you can get 15 to 20 degrees either side. 20 can be tricky and you need to play with sheet tensions. The Amel owners manual say reef if the true wind gets above 20 knots at which time the apparent would be 10 to 12 as you would be exceeding 8 knots and over 10 at times. If the wind does shift on you on a long passage, just go with it for some hours, it is quite likely to change back again and the deviation from the rhumb line wont cost you much in time.And if it doesn't change back you will have got yourself on to a good reach as you come back up on course. win win. Another tip. If you get a sudden change that brings you on to a reach you can just drop the windward sail across to lie inside the other. You can carry on like that for some time. Another tip. The swivel at the top of the fore stay has a small locating tongue going into the track. This has a habit of wearing through. Without it it is near impossible to get the latch to hold the ballooner up. We are enjoying your face book posts Kind Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 24 March 2019 at 00:26 "Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io" <sailw32@...> wrote:
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Re: SM main furler motor
Ian,
A few years ago, I burned out the furling motor. I ordered a new one from Amel and keep the old one to repair one day. I just had it repaired in Colombia at an electric motor shop (US$60 – Gotta love Colombia). Here are the pictures of the original. Perhaps this will help.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - San Blas Islands, Panama www.creampuff.us
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Ian Townsend
Thx Bill. I have done so, just awaiting response. I know the
gearbox model/specs and have ordered it from the distributor in the US. Last
time I communicated with Maude they did not have any stock. I'm really looking
for the RPM and HP/KW and can match to the using dimensions I have from the
Bonfiglioli catalog. I think it must be a fairly standard electric motor
otherwise it would likely be sold together with the gearbox. But maybe I am
wrong about this. S/V Loca Lola II SM153 Exumas, Bahamas
On Mar 22, 2019, at 5:34 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: SM main furler motor
Ian,
A few years ago, I burned out the furling motor. I ordered a new one from Amel and keep the old one to repair one day. I just had it repaired in Colombia at an electric motor shop (US$60 – Gotta love Colombia). Here are the pictures of the original. Perhaps this will help.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - San Blas Islands, Panama www.creampuff.us
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Ian Townsend
Thx Bill. I have done so, just awaiting response. I know the
gearbox model/specs and have ordered it from the distributor in the US. Last
time I communicated with Maude they did not have any stock. I'm really looking
for the RPM and HP/KW and can match to the using dimensions I have from the
Bonfiglioli catalog. I think it must be a fairly standard electric motor
otherwise it would likely be sold together with the gearbox. But maybe I am
wrong about this. S/V Loca Lola II SM153 Exumas, Bahamas
On Mar 22, 2019, at 5:34 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Allan, yes that eye bolt comes out. I approached it with trepidation but it came free quite easily. Take care it doesnt wring off. This still doesnt give enough room to get the car off. I removed the screws from the staunchon base and pushed it sideways. Some others have cut the sides off the track to get it off. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 24 March 2019 at 00:20 Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
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Re: Med Berth
Gerhard Mueller
Steve
Majorca is one of the most expensive places in the Med. Better look in Spain or Italy or Greece. Even the French Cote d'Azur is cheaper than Majorca. The cheapiest place is however Tunisia e.g. Monastir where I got all services done for a very low price. -- Gerhard Mueller Amel Sharki #60 Currently Kalamata, Greece
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Med Berth
Steve Bell s/y Dusk SM378
Hi All, We are looking for a berth for a sm2k in Majorca from June for 9 months, whilst we transverse to full time liveaboards.If anyone has or knows of one up for rent please pm me. Alternatively as close to Majorca as possible .
Regards steve
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs
eric freedman
Hi Gary, I have the same damn plugs-a real pain. I will be doing the silicone next week. I will let you know how it goes. Fair Winds Eric
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Silver via Groups.Io
Hi Eric:
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Ballooner
Patrick McAneny
I have never had an opportunity to sail down wind using the ballooner other than a couple of short hops years ago. I may have an opportunity to use it between the BVIs and Bahamas. A couple of questions . How many degrees either side of downwind can you sail with the ballooner and at what apparent wind would you begin to reef sails ?
Thanks , Pat SM Shenanigans Virgin Gorda,BVI
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars
So,in view of no comment on this issue, I assume that it is possible to remove the block at the FWD end of the genoa track to allow the car to be removed.
I can barely turn the eye bolt that goes through the axis of the the pulley block. Could one of you at least confirm that is how it is removed...is there a nut under the gunwale, or does it screw into a steel plate ....or..... AND what about the aft bolt on that block ....what's that connected to .... if anything ?? Thanks for advice Cheers Alan Elyse Sm437
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs
Gary Silver
Hi Eric:
I reviewed the specifications and data sheet for that product and it looks like their recommendation is sound. It is neutral cure, and has good environmental exposure specs. Let us know how it works out. I still have a full bag (a couple of hundred) of those plugs but I must admit that I get tired of timing them to length and installing them as they only last about 5 years. I do believe that it is important to prevent water intrusion into those holes. The stainless screws, aluminum track and mild steel backing plates is a bad combination when water gets between those metals. All the best, Gary S. Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM 2000 #335
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Re: Navionics chart plotter chips --Discontinued??
eric freedman
I heard from a friend that Navionics is discontinuing the compact flash cards for many chart plotters. Have anyone heard this? If so what can be done to upgrade the chart chips or get new ones? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs
eric freedman
Hi Gary, This is what GE recommended. Is this a good one? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
GE SilPruf SCS2002 Silicone Sealant
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Silver via Groups.Io
Mike, Eric and all:
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Re: Mainsail drive replacement.
JOHN HAYES
Hi Ian
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When we did the gear boxes we just did the brushes However both the I mast furler and Genoa curlers died. The latter full of water the former was a short in the armature Bugger! So I have just had both motors rebuilt. (We are heading in to the pacific early June) The guy who dealt to the motors said he could build two new ones if I wanted but someone in the Amel group when I asked if anyone new a source for the motors response that I should just rebuild cause that’s what they did......so I followed that advice. I now have two completely rebuilt motors at cost of $1100 NZ or about us$750 Best John
On 23/03/2019, at 1:35 PM, Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> wrote:
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Re: Mainsail drive replacement.
John, did you use your existing electric motor? Or did you get a new one? If new, what was it ie. manufacturer and model? Thanks. Ian & Margaret S/V Loca Lola II SM153 Exumas, Bahamas
On Mar 22, 2019, at 4:24 PM, JOHN HAYES <johnhayes862@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs
James Alton
Gary,
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That is a good point about not using an acid based Silicone on Aluminum. I have not used the 737 but will give that one a try thanks for the tip. I do have long term experience with the Dow Corning 3145 Grey silicone caulking on boats caulking in large windows, deck hardware etc.. This is a Mil-spec non acid based caulking that can be used even for electrical work. This caulking has higher adhesion and elongation qualities than any other silicones that I am familiar with. The UV and weathering resistance is the best I have seen in a silicone but this only applies to the Grey (there is also a clear version which is also a bit runny) which colour wise blends in pretty well with the aluminum Genoa tracks. My bulk supplier has a minimum so when I just need a small amount I normally buy it on Ebay, in fact a small tube arrived just today. Thanks Gary for sharing your knowledge base. I especially like the slider seal that you came up with. My boat has what may be the original slider that has become hard and the noise that the slider makes in use is almost blood curdling. (grin) I really need to get that changed this season! Dow Corning 3145 Gray specs: https://www.polymer-g.com/prdFiles/3145gray.pdf James Alton SV Sueno Maramu #220
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Re: SM main furler motor
Let me know how it works out. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Fri, Mar 22, 2019, 4:52 PM Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> wrote:
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Re: SM main furler motor
Thx Bill. I have done so, just awaiting response. I know the gearbox model/specs and have ordered it from the distributor in the US. Last time I communicated with Maude they did not have any stock. I'm really looking for the RPM and HP/KW and can match to the using dimensions I have from the Bonfiglioli catalog. I think it must be a fairly standard electric motor otherwise it would likely be sold together with the gearbox. But maybe I am wrong about this. Ian & Margaret S/V Loca Lola II SM153 Exumas, Bahamas
On Mar 22, 2019, at 5:34 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: SM main furler motor
Ian, I think you should ask SAV. Over the years, I believe there was more than one Bonfiglioli gearbox used by for Amel.
On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 3:02 PM Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> wrote: I have a new Bonfiglioli MVF44 gearbox on order for our mainsail furler. Does anyone know the proper motor that goes with this? I've searched the database and can only find information on the SN with a different gearbox.
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