Re: Gears of bow thruster worn out after 12 times of use, two questions
Germain Jean-Pierre
FWIW, I had a set of gears machined by shop in NZ. Works well although we use it rarely as we anchor most times.
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GL with your repair. JP Germain, Eleuthera, SM 007
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Re: Gears of bow thruster worn out after 12 times of use, two questions
Mark McGovern
Willem, Can you post some pictures of your gears to show us the wear that you are seeing? I changed out the bearings on my bowthruster this past winter for no real reason other than the fact that they were 15 years old. I was surprised with how loose the gears fit together and found that there was a lot of "play" or "slop" in them. However, there was no appreciable wear on the teeth. I sent a video to my surveyor Olivier Beaute showing the amount of play and he said it was what he would consider a normal amount of play.
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Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu
Stephen Davis
Hi Jose, That looks like a great system. How is the fuller attached at the bow, and at the mast? Thanks, Steve Davis Aloha SM 72 Hawaii
On Jun 17, 2019, at 12:26, Jose Venegas via Groups.Io <josegvenegas@...> wrote:
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Re: Gears of bow thruster worn out after 12 times of use, two questions
Willem,
When we replaced bow thruster parts in Fiji last year, Amel told us this : -Bowthruster mechanism (see photo): the parts composing this mechanism cannot be sold separately as everything is perfectly adjusted together (especially the gears and shaft and black cap) to avoid any failure in the system. The price is 582.40 euros without taxes and without transport. I am sure you can find the roller bearing locally. I can give you the exact SKF reference if needed.
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Re: Petrol questions/survey
Ouch !
I have seen stanchions / lifelines damaged on boats that had "stuff" lashed to them after tough up wind passages. Our SSB tuner is not in the lazarette, nor do we have power supplies or outlets in there. Our fuel tank doesn't smell and doesn't leak. Sorry Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu
Jose Venegas
James,
I have an asymmetric spy on a top-down furling RollGen 20 by Bamar. Spy dimensions: Luff=17.07mtr
Leech=15.4 mtr
Foot=7.9mtr
SMG=7.105mtr
I have enjoyed it for more than 6 years with the main advantage of being able to deploy and furl back with just my wife, something that is a major plus for me. Also, it takes a lot of turns to furl but we use the electric winch to do it. It is also important to make sure that the apparent wind is not less than 90 degrees or more than ~150 degrees to furl correctly.
A couple of times we totally lost all wind and furling could be done poorly and had to be redone as soon as we got back some wind.
Here are a couple of pix of Ipanema under spy Jose Ipanema SM 2K 278 Boston
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Re: Furuno Weather Fax do not get much and have switched to Navtex but to be frank the internet apps are more practical. Depends where you are.
Nick again, I have to admit though that it is probably going to be a service that will not survive the internet. It is free to the user and paid for by presumably various government agencies. This kind of “soft” power was very valuable in the good old days. Now I am not sure. A bit like the BBC world service.......or VOA.
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Nick Amelia Corfu town AML 54-019
On 17 Jun 2019, at 21:56, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington@...> wrote:
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Re: Furuno Weather Fax do not get much and have switched to Navtex but to be frank the internet apps are more practical. Depends where you are.
Love my weather fax but it depends where. Across the North Atlantic, Halifax Nova Scotia pumped out great charts as did UK. In the Med it is a different story.
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Nick Amelia in Corfu AML 54-019
On 17 Jun 2019, at 04:41, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:
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Re: Sailing /Rowing dinghy
Eric Meury
We went tjr Portaboat route. We have a 8hp two stroke and also have inflatable dinghy dogs for it so it is extremely stable and we can snorkle off the sides. All in all it is the dinghy I hate the least
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 2:33 PM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: bow locker water.
Steve, I do not know what you mean by the "bow thruster breathing pipe." Photo? Some thoughts:
Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 12:06 PM steve b via Groups.Io <stevect=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Hi All.
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bow locker water.
Steve Bell s/y Dusk SM378
Hi All.
We have just purchased a sm 2000 (378). The previous owner has had a small issue of water in the bow locker not a lot just one or two cups. We have tried to find any leaks by sealing each locker and shining a bright light around the seals etc.and previously hosing down the lockers whilst also inside to find any leaks to no avail. Recently the yacht was in the carribean and we had a lot of saragosi weed and upon arriving in the med and cleaning out the lockers we found a lot of seeds from this weed therefore where ever the water is coming in must be large enough for the seeds to come through we have come to the following possibility that the water is actually coming through the bow thrusters breather pipe. the only way we will test this is by placing some tissue or something similar on the top of the pipe to see if it gets wet. As we will not be on the boat for another few months i just wondered if anyone has had the same issue and can confirm this can be a possibiity. regards steve sm378 Dusk
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Re: TMD22 Emergency Shutoff
I've since wrapped a piece of bright tape around the lever and have a similarly bright zip-tie, without being snipped, to help show the way to the shutoff lever. I know the topic's old but wanted to share that I have indeed tried this shutoff and it works perfectly and without harm.
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Re: Furuno Weather Fax
James Cromie
haha!
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Re: Petrol questions/survey
Joel, Totally agree. And, foredeck storage is good when you are stern-to in a marina. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 8:33 AM amelforme <jfpottercys@...> wrote:
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Re: Gears of bow thruster worn out after 12 times of use, two questions
If your bow thruster needs shims, it is the first time I have heard of this issue. How much oil was in the bow thruster when the overhaul was done and the bow thruster reinstalled? What type of oil did you use? How much oil and/or water was in the bow thruster when you discovered the gears worn this time? Do you know if the horizontal shaft is original? Is it worn? Did you replace it when the gears were replaced? Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 2:11 AM Willem Kroes <kavanga@...> wrote: Dear Amelians,
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Re: Petrol questions/survey
amelforme
Another 2 cents… If you can smell the aroma of gasoline, it is explosive. As Mark said, the SSB tuner is NOT a spark or arc proof unit and it says so on the installation instructions. It is not unusual for them to make sparks capable of ignition of gasoline vapors. Gasoline vapor is much heavier than atmosphere and difficult to displace. The Amel 54 has special lockers on the port side for all flammables on board including gasoline as was a major request from SM 53 owners we asked/heard from. I have resold two SM 53 where the furthest aft bulkhead in the owners cabin was displaced forward when the SSB tuner ignited gasoline vapors. This bulkhead is the weak link in an overpressure situation of the aft deck locker. In is not an inexpensive repair to do correctly. Gasoline containers secured on the aft deck are less likely to get swept and cause damage to the stanchions, as they are generally travelling away from the boarding wave which diminishes the initial ‘pop’ of the wave strike. Containers on the foredeck area have the force of the wave strike increased by the speed that the boat is travelling increasing the initial pop which is the part of the wave action that does the most damage. I have seen stanchions that were twisted from this. Most damage to the life line tubes is caused by large people sitting on the middle of the span. I have spent a lot of time straightening bent stanchions and lifelines in preparing an otherwise nice listing for sale, it is tedious and not much fun.
Have fun with your Amel, Joel
JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C. THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE Office 954-462-5869 Cell 954-812-2485
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io
Mark, I also agree with you, I sometimes see some small amount of leakage of gas from tanks due to heat and expansion and would never store gas below for the reason you stated . I store my tanks far aft ,where they are less prone to be impacted by waves. Pat SM #123 -----Original Message----- I often see world cruisers with cans lashed to stanchions. It seems many of the boats on which I observe this have a set up not as solid as Amel. I have never once heard of a large wave causing damage due to cans lashed. Improperly lashed, maybe. But not damage just because of the location. So I have to ask the question, has this ever happened?
“We NEVER have anything lashed to the stanchions. (my 2¢) My school of thought is I would rather repair stanchion damage due to a freak wave (if this is possible) than to file an insurance claim because the back end of my boat blow up from gasoline fumes. In my lazarette there are several items that could spark highly explosive gas fumes such as a short in the SSB antenna tuner, outlets or power supplies. Plastic gas cans are not immune to leakage and the threat of a leak can be amplified by abrasion during passages. Gasoline fumes are highly explosive (and heavier than air) and should never be stored in an area not adequately vented.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Leslie
1. 10 litre
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Re: Petrol questions/survey
Thanks to all for your time in replying. The rear small cockpit lockers are vented or at least a drain hole in the bottom. Port side cockpit locker will fit my 6 gal yamaha tank that came with the dinghy. These are great quality tanks. It fits perfectly there. Is that sufficient ventilation?
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 1:42 AM Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote: 1. 10 litre
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Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu
James Cromie
It helps tremendously Joerg. Sounds like I need both!
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-James
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Re: Petrol questions/survey
Patrick McAneny
Mark, I also agree with you, I sometimes see some small amount of leakage of gas from tanks due to heat and expansion and would never store gas below for the reason you stated . I store my tanks far aft ,where they are less prone to be impacted by waves.
Pat
SM #123
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From: Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2019 7:53 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Petrol questions/survey I often see world cruisers with cans lashed to stanchions. It
seems many of the boats on which I observe this have a set up not as solid as
Amel. I have never once heard of a large wave causing damage due to cans lashed.
Improperly lashed, maybe. But not damage just because of the location. So I
have to ask the question, has this ever happened?
“We
NEVER have anything lashed to the stanchions.
One decent wave and it would be gone and damage the stanchions.” (my 2¢) My
school of thought is I would rather repair stanchion damage due to a freak wave
(if this is possible) than to file an insurance claim because the back end of
my boat blow up from gasoline fumes. In my lazarette there are several items
that could spark highly explosive gas fumes such as a short in the SSB antenna tuner,
outlets or power supplies. Plastic gas cans are not immune to leakage and the threat
of a leak can be amplified by abrasion during passages. Gasoline fumes are
highly explosive (and heavier than air) and should never be stored in an area
not adequately vented.
With best
regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing Vessel
- Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently
cruising - Vista Mar, Panama
www.creampuff.us
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Alan Leslie
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 1:42 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Petrol questions/survey 1. 10 litre
2. External outboard motor tank 3. Lazarette - the tank doesn't leak 4. No and I wouldn't do that We NEVER have anything lashed to the stanchions. One decent wave and it would be gone and damage the stanchions. Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: Sailing /Rowing dinghy
Patrick McAneny
Bill, I agree with you, we have not needed to use our dinghy to propel us yet,but review how we would do that,in case we need to deploy in an emergency. I also have rescued a sailboat just before it was going up on a reef on the south coast of Grenada with my rib and its 18 hp two stroke. We also dinghy miles to snorkel and get groceries . Our 10.5 aluminum rib only weighs 98 lbs. ,we love it and it can do 25 to 30 mph in flat water ,just measured by my brother next to me on his jet ski the other day. BTW, we store two six gal. fuel tanks tied to the stanchions ,one is normally in the dinghy.
Pat
SM Shenanigans
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From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Sent: Sun, Jun 16, 2019 12:16 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Sailing /Rowing dinghy One downside is that what you have will not propel your boat to safety when necessary. If you have considered this and are OK with it, fine. But, if you haven't considered this, you need to re-think. You are going to places that you will need to self-rescue, and/or move your boat when you have no wind and no motor. It is hard to beat all of the advantages of a traditional RIB with a 10-20hp 2 cycle motor. I know of 2 SMs which were moved away from dangerous situations with a dinghy lashed to the stern quarter.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 10:48 AM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi all,
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