Date   

Mainsail drive replacement.

JOHN HAYES
 

Morning Ian

Below are the details of what I put in to my Santorin 

The same gearbox goes in the mast and on the boom out haul

We had a second issue recently but found the aluminium peg that links the in mast foil to the gearbox had snapped so had a new one made by a local engineer from a hi tensile aluminium 

The gear boxes have worked fine and were sourced from bonfigilioli in Auckland 

Best

John Hayes 
NGA Waka 
Wellington 
New Zealand 



From: Karl Paterson <karl.paterson@...>
Date: Wednesday, 23 November 2016 at 10:07 AM
To: JOHN HAYES <johnhayes862@...>
Subject: RE: Mainsail drive replacement.

Hi John,

 

We can offer the following gearbox to suit.

 

1 x VF44P 70:1 P63 B14 B3                             $325.90 net + GST.

This is usually supplied as a raw aluminium finish however we can paint it using a two pot epoxy if you’d like. Allow an extra $45 + GST for this and 1 – 2 days for the paint to fully cure.  

Parts available ex stock NZ.  

 

For the DC motor, we’d need to know power, voltage and speed in order to offer a replacement.

 

Prices exclude GST and freight.

 

Please see attached dimensional info for reference.

 

Kind regards

 

Karl

 

 

From: JOHN HAYES [mailto:johnhayes862@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 22 November 2016 8:05 p.m.
To: Karl Paterson
Subject: Re: Mainsail drive replacement.

 

HI KARL

 

Photos are attached. 4.jpg has the best picture of the gear box.

 

Let me know if you need more

 

The part number came from a fellow in Europe who has the same gearbox on his boat and he says he got a gear box with that part number from the UK

 

Best

 

John

 

From: Karl Paterson <karl.paterson@...>
Date: Tuesday, 22 November 2016 at 4:14 PM
To: JOHN HAYES <johnhayes862@...>
Subject: Mainsail drive replacement.

 

Hi John,

 

Thanks for your enquiry regarding a replacement Bonfiglioli worm drive. If you can please provide photos of the gearbox as well as any motor details available I’ll have a look into what we can offer.

 

Kind regards

 

Karl Paterson | PT Application Engineer

SAECOWilson
88 Hastie Ave, Mangere Bridge,

PO Box 22 256, Otahuhu, Auckland, NZ
tel.
 09 622 8918  fax. 09 633 0074

mob. 029 294 0435
www.saecowilson.co.nz

 

 


SM main furler motor

Ian Townsend
 

I have a new Bonfiglioli MVF44 gearbox on order for our mainsail furler. Does anyone know the proper motor that goes with this? I've searched the database and can only find information on the SN with a different gearbox. 

Thanks all.

Ian
SM153
Loca Lola II 
Exumas, Bahamas


Re: Using email

Mark Erdos
 

Paul,

 

Yes, you can reply just as you would any email.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - San Blas Islands, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 3:07 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Using email

 

Hi,

With this new group I now get all messages emailed, which is very convenient. Is it possible to use email to reply and therefore not need to go to the forum on the web?

--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Using email

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Hi,

With this new group I now get all messages emailed, which is very convenient. Is it possible to use email to reply and therefore not need to go to the forum on the web?

--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

eric freedman
 

Hi Mike,

Yes that’s it.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 9:34 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

 

Hi Eric,

 

This is what we used, based on your research as posted on the Amel Owners Group site on 5APR18. Gotta love the easy search with this new format! Thanks so much to those that made this move.

 

GE SilPruf SCS2002 Silicone Sealant

Mike

Aletes SM#240

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 11:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

 

Hi Mike,

I tried that last year and after a while it shrank and dropped down below the track. I have a new silicone that I will be using.

I called GE and they told me what special silicone to use. I do not recall the name . I am not aboard Kimberlite.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 8:14 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

 

Hi Eric,

We are trying an alternative to the plastic plugs that deteriorate with sunlight.

After cleaning out the decomposed plugs and dust, we filled the hole with white silicone. We filled considerably higher than the surface of the track, and after it cured a few days cut off the silicone with a razor flush with the top of the track. It’s a pretty neat job, and we’ll see how it last.

Mike Ondra,

Aletes SM#240

Returning from St Augustine to Rock Hall, MD mid-April

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 9:58 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

 

Hi Woody,

Where did you get the plastic plugs for the track. Amel did not have any.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan "Woody" Wood
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 9:59 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

 

Hi Danny

We had a double whammy in that there was gel coat cracking under the track where (we think) the backing plate had expanded AND the car inserts had disintegrated and needed replacing. We did it as part of a fit out in Tunisia.. even with an impact driver we still couldn't get the whole track off but managed to free the track enough to slide the cars off.
Heres the link to the video, time stamped at the track repair.. hope it helps
https://youtu.be/6nHe3zU--rU?t=511

Woody
SM189


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

 

Thanks, Gary. We seem to never stop learning.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 10:16 AM Gary Silver via Groups.Io <garysilver=mac.com@groups.io> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Mike, Eric and all:

This is coming from my background as an A & P (FAA airframe and power plant mechanic).  RTV (room temperature vulcanizing) sealants, aka silicone, comes in two basic curing regimens;  acidic curing (Acetoxy or acetic acid) and natural curing.   The acidic curing is prohibited in aircraft as it is corrosive to aluminum structures (also applicable for aluminum structures on sailboats).  Acidic curing RTV is ok on fiberglass.  When selecting any sealant (RTV or otherwise) it is best to avoid acid curing type.  Dow 737 is a natural cure RTV that I use a lot on aircraft but there are others as well. I usually have to order it online (not hard these days) as it isn't widely available in chandleries or the Home Depot type suppliers. 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 # 335
Puerto Del Rey Marina, Puerto Rico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

Mike Ondra
 

Good information Gary.

Looking up the specs is see this product uses atmospheric moisture to cure. Don’t know if that is “natural”. No mention of “acid” cure.

Recommended for exterior aluminum glazing systems. Anyway, its done and we will see.

Thanks,

Mike

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Silver via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 11:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

 

Mike, Eric and all:

This is coming from my background as and A & P (FAA airframe and power plant mechanic).  RTV (room temperature vulcanizing) sealants, aka silicone, comes in two basic curing regimens;  acidic curing (Acetoxy or acetic acid) and natural curing.   The acidic curing is prohibited in aircraft as it is corrosive to aluminum structures (also applicable for aluminum structures on sailboats).  Acidic curing RTV is ok on fiberglass.  When selecting any sealant (RTV or otherwise) it is best to avoid acid curing type.  Dow 737 is a natural cure RTV that I use a lot on aircraft but there are others as well. I usually have to order it online (not hard these days) as it isn't widely available in chandleries or the Home Depot type suppliers. 

Gary S Silver
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 # 335
Puerto Del Rey Marina, Puerto Rico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

Gary Silver
 
Edited

Mike, Eric and all:

This is coming from my background as an A & P (FAA airframe and power plant mechanic).  RTV (room temperature vulcanizing) sealants, aka silicone, comes in two basic curing regimens;  acidic curing (Acetoxy or acetic acid) and natural curing.   The acidic curing is prohibited in aircraft as it is corrosive to aluminum structures (also applicable for aluminum structures on sailboats).  Acidic curing RTV is ok on fiberglass.  When selecting any sealant (RTV or otherwise) it is best to avoid acid curing type.  Dow 737 is a natural cure RTV that I use a lot on aircraft but there are others as well. I usually have to order it online (not hard these days) as it isn't widely available in chandleries or the Home Depot type suppliers. 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 # 335
Puerto Del Rey Marina, Puerto Rico


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

Mike Ondra
 

Bill,

White

Regards,

Mike

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 9:55 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

 

Mike,

 

What color did you use?

 

Best,

 

Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St.

Galveston, Texas 77550

832-380-4970

Image removed by sender.

 

 

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 8:34 AM Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Eric,

 

This is what we used, based on your research as posted on the Amel Owners Group site on 5APR18. Gotta love the easy search with this new format! Thanks so much to those that made this move.

 

GE SilPruf SCS2002 Silicone Sealant

Mike

Aletes SM#240

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 11:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

 

Hi Mike,

I tried that last year and after a while it shrank and dropped down below the track. I have a new silicone that I will be using.

I called GE and they told me what special silicone to use. I do not recall the name . I am not aboard Kimberlite.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 8:14 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

 

Hi Eric,

We are trying an alternative to the plastic plugs that deteriorate with sunlight.

After cleaning out the decomposed plugs and dust, we filled the hole with white silicone. We filled considerably higher than the surface of the track, and after it cured a few days cut off the silicone with a razor flush with the top of the track. It’s a pretty neat job, and we’ll see how it last.

Mike Ondra,

Aletes SM#240

Returning from St Augustine to Rock Hall, MD mid-April

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 9:58 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

 

Hi Woody,

Where did you get the plastic plugs for the track. Amel did not have any.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan "Woody" Wood
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 9:59 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

 

Hi Danny

We had a double whammy in that there was gel coat cracking under the track where (we think) the backing plate had expanded AND the car inserts had disintegrated and needed replacing. We did it as part of a fit out in Tunisia.. even with an impact driver we still couldn't get the whole track off but managed to free the track enough to slide the cars off.
Heres the link to the video, time stamped at the track repair.. hope it helps
https://youtu.be/6nHe3zU--rU?t=511

Woody
SM189


Re: Potential Yahoo Email Problems if you are using a Yahoo! email address #Yahoo

Rick Grimes
 

Great info. So glad you left Yahoo. It was always confusing—and maddening when out at sea with very slow internet service. 

On Mar 22, 2019, at 9:51 AM, CW Bill Rouse <main+owner@amelyachtowners.groups.io> wrote:

I hate long emails sent to everyone when the email applies to only a few. This email does not apply to you UNLESS you use a Yahoo! email address to send and/or receive emails from the Amel Yacht Owners Group. If you use a Yahoo! email address, please read the following.

Over half of the Amel Yacht Owners Group members use a Yahoo! email account. Many of these members were forced to add a Yahoo! email account because they wanted to register for our group when we were located at Yahoo!. That requirement no longer exists.

I am monitoring a small, but growing problem with Yahoo! email that you may not be aware of. It seems that Yahoo! is deleting "dormant accounts." Apparently, Yahoo considers an account dormant that has not been "signed in" for over a year. I am told that this has been a longstanding policy at Yahoo!, but only intermittently enforced. It appears that they have begun enforcing the policy. The fact that you send and receive Yahoo! email apparently isn't good enough for Yahoo! at this time. They appear to be considering your Yahoo! email account dormant, if you have not signed into the account in over a year. If an email account continues to bounce, Groups.io is forced remove the account from the Amel Yacht Owners Group email distribution. They have removed over 100 members from email distribution, and unfortunately, those people are not receiving this email. For more information on why and how this process works, go to https://groups.io/static/help#bouncing 
 
Bottom line:
Don't panic, if you received this email, you have not been removed. But, if you haven't recently "signed in" to your Yahoo! Email Account with your Yahoo! password and want to avoid problems, I suggest that you go to Yahoo! Mail  and sign in with your password. Unfortunately, I cannot suggest anything else except possibly changing to another email provider. You can use any provider to receive group emails, but personally I would avoid Yahoo!, Hotmail, and Earthlink. Google is probably the best.

If you want to change your email delivery address in the Amel Yacht Owners Group:
  1. Go to https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/
    Note: If you don't have a password already, you will be prompted to create one from the main Groups.io page 
  2. On the home page for Amel Yacht Owners Group, click on your name in the top right corner.
  3. Click Account.
  4. On the login page that appears, enter your new email address in the Email field
  5. Click the Change Email button.
  6. Be sure to use your newly registered email address to send emails to the group


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

 

Mike,

What color did you use?

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 8:34 AM Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Eric,

 

This is what we used, based on your research as posted on the Amel Owners Group site on 5APR18. Gotta love the easy search with this new format! Thanks so much to those that made this move.

 

GE SilPruf SCS2002 Silicone Sealant

Mike

Aletes SM#240

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 11:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

 

Hi Mike,

I tried that last year and after a while it shrank and dropped down below the track. I have a new silicone that I will be using.

I called GE and they told me what special silicone to use. I do not recall the name . I am not aboard Kimberlite.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 8:14 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

 

Hi Eric,

We are trying an alternative to the plastic plugs that deteriorate with sunlight.

After cleaning out the decomposed plugs and dust, we filled the hole with white silicone. We filled considerably higher than the surface of the track, and after it cured a few days cut off the silicone with a razor flush with the top of the track. It’s a pretty neat job, and we’ll see how it last.

Mike Ondra,

Aletes SM#240

Returning from St Augustine to Rock Hall, MD mid-April

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 9:58 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

 

Hi Woody,

Where did you get the plastic plugs for the track. Amel did not have any.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan "Woody" Wood
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 9:59 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

 

Hi Danny

We had a double whammy in that there was gel coat cracking under the track where (we think) the backing plate had expanded AND the car inserts had disintegrated and needed replacing. We did it as part of a fit out in Tunisia.. even with an impact driver we still couldn't get the whole track off but managed to free the track enough to slide the cars off.
Heres the link to the video, time stamped at the track repair.. hope it helps
https://youtu.be/6nHe3zU--rU?t=511

Woody
SM189


Potential Yahoo Email Problems if you are using a Yahoo! email address #Yahoo

 

I hate long emails sent to everyone when the email applies to only a few. This email does not apply to you UNLESS you use a Yahoo! email address to send and/or receive emails from the Amel Yacht Owners Group. If you use a Yahoo! email address, please read the following.

Over half of the Amel Yacht Owners Group members use a Yahoo! email account. Many of these members were forced to add a Yahoo! email account because they wanted to register for our group when we were located at Yahoo!. That requirement no longer exists.

I am monitoring a small, but growing problem with Yahoo! email that you may not be aware of. It seems that Yahoo! is deleting "dormant accounts." Apparently, Yahoo considers an account dormant that has not been "signed in" for over a year. I am told that this has been a longstanding policy at Yahoo!, but only intermittently enforced. It appears that they have begun enforcing the policy. The fact that you send and receive Yahoo! email apparently isn't good enough for Yahoo! at this time. They appear to be considering your Yahoo! email account dormant, if you have not signed into the account in over a year. If an email account continues to bounce, Groups.io is forced remove the account from the Amel Yacht Owners Group email distribution. They have removed over 100 members from email distribution, and unfortunately, those people are not receiving this email. For more information on why and how this process works, go to https://groups.io/static/help#bouncing 
 
Bottom line:
Don't panic, if you received this email, you have not been removed. But, if you haven't recently "signed in" to your Yahoo! Email Account with your Yahoo! password and want to avoid problems, I suggest that you go to Yahoo! Mail  and sign in with your password. Unfortunately, I cannot suggest anything else except possibly changing to another email provider. You can use any provider to receive group emails, but personally I would avoid Yahoo!, Hotmail, and Earthlink. Google is probably the best.

If you want to change your email delivery address in the Amel Yacht Owners Group:
  1. Go to https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/
    Note: If you don't have a password already, you will be prompted to create one from the main Groups.io page 
  2. On the home page for Amel Yacht Owners Group, click on your name in the top right corner.
  3. Click Account.
  4. On the login page that appears, enter your new email address in the Email field
  5. Click the Change Email button.
  6. Be sure to use your newly registered email address to send emails to the group


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

Mike Ondra
 

Hi Eric,

 

This is what we used, based on your research as posted on the Amel Owners Group site on 5APR18. Gotta love the easy search with this new format! Thanks so much to those that made this move.

 

GE SilPruf SCS2002 Silicone Sealant

Mike

Aletes SM#240

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 11:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

 

Hi Mike,

I tried that last year and after a while it shrank and dropped down below the track. I have a new silicone that I will be using.

I called GE and they told me what special silicone to use. I do not recall the name . I am not aboard Kimberlite.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 8:14 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

 

Hi Eric,

We are trying an alternative to the plastic plugs that deteriorate with sunlight.

After cleaning out the decomposed plugs and dust, we filled the hole with white silicone. We filled considerably higher than the surface of the track, and after it cured a few days cut off the silicone with a razor flush with the top of the track. It’s a pretty neat job, and we’ll see how it last.

Mike Ondra,

Aletes SM#240

Returning from St Augustine to Rock Hall, MD mid-April

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 9:58 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

 

Hi Woody,

Where did you get the plastic plugs for the track. Amel did not have any.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan "Woody" Wood
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 9:59 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

 

Hi Danny

We had a double whammy in that there was gel coat cracking under the track where (we think) the backing plate had expanded AND the car inserts had disintegrated and needed replacing. We did it as part of a fit out in Tunisia.. even with an impact driver we still couldn't get the whole track off but managed to free the track enough to slide the cars off.
Heres the link to the video, time stamped at the track repair.. hope it helps
https://youtu.be/6nHe3zU--rU?t=511

Woody
SM189


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

I use black rubber plugs. They work very good. I installed them 3 years ago.

Vladimir
SM 345 "Life is Good"

On Mar 21, 2019 11:03 PM, "eric freedman" <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Mike,

I tried that last year and after a while it shrank and dropped down below the track. I have a new silicone that I will be using.

I called GE and they told me what special silicone to use. I do not recall the name . I am not aboard Kimberlite.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 8:14 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

 

Hi Eric,

We are trying an alternative to the plastic plugs that deteriorate with sunlight.

After cleaning out the decomposed plugs and dust, we filled the hole with white silicone. We filled considerably higher than the surface of the track, and after it cured a few days cut off the silicone with a razor flush with the top of the track. It’s a pretty neat job, and we’ll see how it last.

Mike Ondra,

Aletes SM#240

Returning from St. Augustine to Rock Hall, MD mid-April

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 9:58 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

 

Hi Woody,

Where did you get the plastic plugs for the track. Amel did not have any.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan "Woody" Wood
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 9:59 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

 

Hi Danny

We had a double whammy in that there was gel coat cracking under the track where (we think) the backing plate had expanded AND the car inserts had disintegrated and needed replacing. We did it as part of a fit out in Tunisia.. even with an impact driver we still couldn't get the whole track off but managed to free the track enough to slide the cars off.
Heres the link to the video, time stamped at the track repair.. hope it helps
https://youtu.be/6nHe3zU--rU?t=511

Woody
SM189



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

eric freedman
 

Hi Mike,

I tried that last year and after a while it shrank and dropped down below the track. I have a new silicone that I will be using.

I called GE and they told me what special silicone to use. I do not recall the name . I am not aboard Kimberlite.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 8:14 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

 

Hi Eric,

We are trying an alternative to the plastic plugs that deteriorate with sunlight.

After cleaning out the decomposed plugs and dust, we filled the hole with white silicone. We filled considerably higher than the surface of the track, and after it cured a few days cut off the silicone with a razor flush with the top of the track. It’s a pretty neat job, and we’ll see how it last.

Mike Ondra,

Aletes SM#240

Returning from St. Augustine to Rock Hall, MD mid-April

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 9:58 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

 

Hi Woody,

Where did you get the plastic plugs for the track. Amel did not have any.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan "Woody" Wood
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 9:59 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

 

Hi Danny

We had a double whammy in that there was gel coat cracking under the track where (we think) the backing plate had expanded AND the car inserts had disintegrated and needed replacing. We did it as part of a fit out in Tunisia.. even with an impact driver we still couldn't get the whole track off but managed to free the track enough to slide the cars off.
Heres the link to the video, time stamped at the track repair.. hope it helps
https://youtu.be/6nHe3zU--rU?t=511

Woody
SM189


locked Re: Paying for our group through Advertising

Duncan Hagemeyer
 

I'm having a tough time learning how to follow and reply to the conversation.  This follow-up is directed to Ian's comment.  He has a great point on having a surveyor that could be  "certified" as an Amel expert that is located over in Europe and here in the western hemisphere.  Again I am not suggesting that this program should be the judge and jury of what any particular boat is worth.  All surveys are based on many factors.  

I will offer this though...some might call it a criticism.  For years I have sort of followed the exchanges on the Amel site.  It occurred to me that this site, if viewed by a prospective buyer - would come away thinking that something is always going wrong with the Amel boats.  Fix this, repair that, and banter about price and who can be trusted to fix it.  Oliver in Guadeloupe did work for me and I found him polite, competent and did what he said he would do.  I should have rewarded him with a Kudo Mon...good job on the web.  I ran into others that were just in it for the buck and shove you off the dock thinking they will not see you again.  I would suggest that the site include more of the good days and good experiences we have had and reward our group with some positive thought that make others want to be an Amel owner..  I personally think the Caribbean has changed and those that are competent and want to earn the right to service our Amel's should also have our site as a forum for selling their services.  Advertising is worthless unless the vendor does more than pay a fee that maintains our website.  It's worse than worthless it cost a boat owner money if they go to the wrong vendor and get screwed.  OK....unless I have an epiphany I'm done.  I do hope that the Amel'ians' grow and prosper and I hope that one day I make one last sail around the Caribbean.  Fair winds to all of you. 

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 1:40 AM SY STELLA <stella@...> wrote:
Actually I just noticed that Gary W has put this idea more eloquently and comprehensively than I.
i agree with Gary.
Dean
SY STELLA
A54-154



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet track plugs

Mike Ondra
 

Hi Eric,

We are trying an alternative to the plastic plugs that deteriorate with sunlight.

After cleaning out the decomposed plugs and dust, we filled the hole with white silicone. We filled considerably higher than the surface of the track, and after it cured a few days cut off the silicone with a razor flush with the top of the track. It’s a pretty neat job, and we’ll see how it last.

Mike Ondra,

Aletes SM#240

Returning from St. Augustine to Rock Hall, MD mid-April

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 9:58 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

 

Hi Woody,

Where did you get the plastic plugs for the track. Amel did not have any.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan "Woody" Wood
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 9:59 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars

 

Hi Danny

We had a double whammy in that there was gel coat cracking under the track where (we think) the backing plate had expanded AND the car inserts had disintegrated and needed replacing. We did it as part of a fit out in Tunisia.. even with an impact driver we still couldn't get the whole track off but managed to free the track enough to slide the cars off.
Heres the link to the video, time stamped at the track repair.. hope it helps
https://youtu.be/6nHe3zU--rU?t=511

Woody
SM189


Re: Oil amount for MD22 / Prima M50

Gary Wells
 

Ah, Craig you are exactly right.  I actually have a TMD 22.  Different animal. 

Gary


locked Re: Paying for our group through Advertising

Dean Gillies
 

Actually I just noticed that Gary W has put this idea more eloquently and comprehensively than I.
i agree with Gary.
Dean
SY STELLA
A54-154


locked Re: Paying for our group through Advertising

Dean Gillies
 

Interesting thread. 
Personally, I do not like the idea of advertising by a sponsor.  With sponsorship, particularly narrow sponsorship, comes the expectation of the sponsor (sooner or later), which is not necessarily unmanageable, but inevitably causes strife.

Maybe the group could consider a more broadly based revenue stream such as a ‘directory’, where a range of individual suppliers can be listed in return for a small fee, which cumulatively pays the groups.io site fees.  This model is possibly less likely to suffer from the demands of a single large sponsor, may be more robust in terms of cash-flow  and would possibly be more useful to owners.

Bill, are we considering the implementation of this revenue generation idea immediately? 

Dean
SY STELLA 
A54-154