Re: Greek Cruising Tax
Mohammad Shirloo
James; the agents name is Chris with A1. He is half British and half Greek. Very nice and trustworthy guy. We’ve known him for 2 years now. His number +30 693 7165050. Let him know I referred you to him. He knows almost every one related to boating
in Corfu. A great resource.
There’s only one marina in Corfu, Gouvia. Can get very busy in the high season. I would highly recommend booking ahead. He can also make arrangement for you to anchor out and take your papers in by dinghy/ Respectfully;
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54 #099
On Jun 2, 2019, at 10:28 PM, James Alton via Groups.Io <lokiyawl2@...> wrote:
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Re: Greek Cruising Tax
Ken Powers SV Aquarius
The only place we went in the Pacific that requested a license was
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Mainland Ecuador. Aquarius Currently in Fiji Youtube - Sailing Aquarius Around the World
On 6/3/19, s/v Paloma <sailingpaloma1@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Greek Cruising Tax
James Alton
Mohammad and Aty,
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This all sounds good to me. I especially like the point about gaining a good source of information. Could you send me the name of the agent you used in Corfu? Also, which marina he operates out of. James SV Sueno Maramu #220
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Re: Batteries: single failed battery in the house bank, impact for other batteries
Paul Stascavage
David,
I have a spare PCB board if you are interested. It is used and was working when I removed it from our failed Onan generator (engine failure). We are currently in the Bahamas and will be for about another 4-6 days. There is a FedEx office here so I should be able to ship it to you in Panama. Email me at pstas2003 at yahoo dot com if interested. All the Best, Paul Stascavage S/V Rita Kathryn SM #466 RitaKathryn.com Currently Cruising Bahamas
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Re: Greek Cruising Tax
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi james,
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The cost of the agent varies, typically anywhere between 50 and 100 euros depending on the island. This can easily be done by yourself, but we’ve found that the process goes a lot smoother and the requirements a lot more lax when done by agents who typically
either know the customs agents well or they are friends.
The agent takes your paper work, goes and takes care of all required formalities and returns with the Greek cruising permit. There will be some other government fees that will be separate from the agent fees.
We do know a very nice agent in Corfu which will be the first island you will encounter sailing south from the Adriatic. We actually had him on board today for drinks while doing a sea trial with the Volvo dealer in Corfu, who again are friends.
In my experience you get a lot more than what you pay in agent costs. You find a Great source of information and a lot better service from others that happen to be the agents friend. Respectfully;
Mohammad And Aty
B&B Kokomo
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On Jun 2, 2019, at 1:26 PM, James Alton via Groups.Io <lokiyawl2@...> wrote:
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Re: Greek Cruising Tax
Gerald Bassin
And for France, I was checked two times by customs within 2 years but thes were more intereted in enforcing the 18 month rule
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On 2 Jun 2019, at 17:51, s/v Paloma <sailingpaloma1@...> wrote:
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Just FYI, nobody even in New Zealand, requested any kind of license during our 3 seasons in the S. Pacific with a USA flagged boat.
Theo. s/v Paloma, Amel 50 #18
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On Jun 2, 2019, at 11:12 AM, James Alton via Groups.Io <lokiyawl2@...> wrote:
Kent and Iris, With regards to Mediterranean countries, it is my understanding that most require a competency license these days. In Italy we sailed for 3 seasons before getting our ICC licenses and the license was never requested. In Tunisia, they didn't ask either. I am aware of a number of requests by authorities in Greece and Croatia for a license which pushed us to get this handled. If you want your ICC license and will be doing the testing in the States I believe that Mark Thompson with RYA in Florida is the only option. He is a great guy and we enjoyed the process. I will be very interested in the responses you get for the Pacific etc. Since we also hope to be there in a few more years. Best, James Alton SV Sueno Maramu #220 On Jun 2, 2019 11:22 AM, "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote:
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James Alton
Kent and Iris, With regards to Mediterranean countries, it is my understanding that most require a competency license these days. In Italy we sailed for 3 seasons before getting our ICC licenses and the license was never requested. In Tunisia, they didn't ask either. I am aware of a number of requests by authorities in Greece and Croatia for a license which pushed us to get this handled. If you want your ICC license and will be doing the testing in the States I believe that Mark Thompson with RYA in Florida is the only option. He is a great guy and we enjoyed the process. I will be very interested in the responses you get for the Pacific etc. Since we also hope to be there in a few more years. Best, James Alton SV Sueno Maramu #220
On Jun 2, 2019 11:22 AM, "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote:
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This discussion has made me realize that I really don’t have a clue about rules and regulations in countries we’ll be visiting on our 5-10 year cruise in the S Pacific and Med. I’ve sailed the Caribbean extensively and have never been asked for any paperwork other than USCG boat registration, passports, and occasionally insurance coverage. What about Central and S America and the S Pacific? Other than Noonsite, are there any internet resources that spell out in detail what paperwork, insurance, taxes, permits, etc are required of cruisers? Thanks for any ideas about how to assure we will have everything we need. Kent& Iris S/V Kristy SM243
On Jun 2, 2019, at 6:26 AM, James Alton via Groups.Io <lokiyawl2@...> wrote:
Mohammad and Aty Thanks for the advice and for the offer to help find an agent. I am not sure of what the cost for this service my be but this option certainly sounds appealing for at least our first entry into Greece to insure that all of the i’s are dotted and the t’s crossed. Mostly likely we will arrive in Greece from the North so a suggestion for a Port of entry and of an agent there would be very helpful. We will be sailing around the boot of Italy from Sardinia and we want to visit Croatia and Greece for sure. The gulf of Kotor in Montenegro looks appealing as well. My wife would really like to see Venice so if the conditions are good we will head up to the North end first and work our way down the West coast to Greece. If the conditions are not favourable for the trip North up the Adriatic the general plan is to cross to the West coast to Croatia somewhere, any suggestions on a port of entry? We will have a bit over 4 months this season so we will need to plan to be outside the Schengen area for a bit over a month so I think Croatia and Montenegro are our two options in that regard. Any general routing suggestions from those familiar with this area would be appreciated. Best, James SV Sueno Maramu #220 Arbatax, Sardinia
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James Alton
Mohammad and Aty
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Thanks for the advice and for the offer to help find an agent. I am not sure of what the cost for this service my be but this option certainly sounds appealing for at least our first entry into Greece to insure that all of the i’s are dotted and the t’s crossed. Mostly likely we will arrive in Greece from the North so a suggestion for a Port of entry and of an agent there would be very helpful. We will be sailing around the boot of Italy from Sardinia and we want to visit Croatia and Greece for sure. The gulf of Kotor in Montenegro looks appealing as well. My wife would really like to see Venice so if the conditions are good we will head up to the North end first and work our way down the West coast to Greece. If the conditions are not favourable for the trip North up the Adriatic the general plan is to cross to the West coast to Croatia somewhere, any suggestions on a port of entry? We will have a bit over 4 months this season so we will need to plan to be outside the Schengen area for a bit over a month so I think Croatia and Montenegro are our two options in that regard. Any general routing suggestions from those familiar with this area would be appreciated. Best, James SV Sueno Maramu #220 Arbatax, Sardinia
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James Alton
Hallo Michael,
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Yes, my boat is non-EU so perhaps I do need to pay through customs. I am thinking of using an agent for at least the first clearing in to be sure that I get everything correct. I check the link that you provided and also explored your website some, very nice! I hope that you and Sioned have a good sailing season. Maybe we will cross wakes sometime. James SV Sueno Maramu #220 Arbatax Sardinia
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James Alton
Tony and Lel Wells,
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Thanks for providing the details of the insurance required for sailing Greek waters. My renewal is coming up shortly and I will check to be sure that all of these requirements including the translation are included. I have printed out your post for reference. Best, James SV Sueno Maramu #220 Arbatax, Sardinia
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Re: 220 volt exhaust blower replacement
rossirossix4
Agree on the wimpy 220V exhaust blower.....after installing a new capacitor (original spec) it works OK but seems about half the flow of the engine fans--others, trying to juice it up with a capacitor have noted burning smells, I think. The watermaker pump is another device that has to work in high heat. We have a 220V outlet high up on the forward bulkhead of the engine room and a 220v fan aimed at the watermaker and charger (also used off the inverter or shore power when working in the engine room). Like many others with solar we only run the generator to make water....so that and the charger are always working when the generator is on. If others are not close around I open the engine compartment to keep things cooler but we shouldn't have to do so.
Maybe someone has a good, more powerful, replacement for the extractor fan--by definition when the generator is going we don't need to skimp on 220 power. Or maybe there is a way to activate the engine blowers when the generator is on. I like the idea of manually switched engine blowers. In hot climates, frequently when we switch off the motor we like to vent the heat out of the engine room and usually open the engine hatch to do so. In many situations the batteries are charged up and we would still have enough solar to offset the fans. Bob and Suzanne, KAIMI SM429 Spaanse Water, Curacao
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Thomas Kleman
Thanks Bill- mine is just bungied to the ceiling and puts out very little air now. I think I know why my previous Mastervolt 100 amp charger may have failed. Not sure it had an ambient temp cutoff circuit. It may have just baked over time due to high temp in the engine room during use of the genset. Based on what spare parts from Climma/veco cost, an industrial exhaust extractor fan (available everywhere and cheap) will fit nicely and dramatically boost airflow. To avoid the Amel purist red card, I'll save the old fan for a possible next owner of #422.
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Re: Greek Cruising Tax
tony wells
You should have a “Greek Compulsory Third Party Yacht Liability Endorsement” from your insurer, translated into Greek. It needs to clearly state the following levels of cover to satisfy Greek legal requirements: Personal injury / death: €500k per accident Personal injury: €50k per passenger Material damage of any type: €150k per accident or occurrence in aggregate for the policy year Pollution: €150k per accident or occurrence in the aggregate for the policy year The above wording is copied from my document. I’m sure your insurance broker / provider will be familiar with this requirement and issue the one page document required. I have seen skippers applications for their Dekpa’s being rejected by the Port Police when not having this precise document with clearly stated limits. Incidentally, all the permit/tax processes are straightforward - not much more cumbersome than the many pre-registration websites / island formalities experienced around the Caribbean. Assuming the Tepai tax website works, of course, as others have noted! Hope this helps Tony & Lel Wells A54 #102 Balthazar, Ionian Sea, Greece
On 1 Jun 2019, at 09:10, Gerhard Mueller via Groups.Io <carcode@...> wrote:
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@Sioned
I wrote a summary of the whole process on my website:
https://www.sionell.de/sioned/index.php/tips-und-tricks/72-griechische-yachtsteuer-t German language only, sorry, but you might engage Google Translate... There is also a comprehensive summary for members of the British Cruising Association in their member area with a lot of discussion about in the member forums. @Rink: You can pay either with a SEPA transfer from your bank account using the IBAN you find in the official FAQ or at one of the authorized collection agencies listed in that FAQ in cash. I would recommend an ELTA office as they seem to have the least problems. As for non EU boats, as far as I know you have to pay through customs.
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Gerhard Mueller
Thomas
You can get spare parts fror Victron devices directly from Victron. See: https://www.victronenergy.com/chargers -- Gerhard Mueller Amel Sharki #60 Currently Kalamata, Greece
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Gerhard Mueller
James
No, there is no need to have translated papers of any kind into Greek language. However recently the Hellenic Coastguard here in Kalamata (Messinian Bay) fined a German motorboat owner for his papers. He has had only papers to use his boat in german inland waters (rivers and chanels) but not at coastal waters or even at sea. We others first thought the fine was because his papers are not greek language. After some investigation we found out that he has no licenses to drive at sea. -- Gerhard Mueller Amel Sharki #60 Currently Kalamata, Greece
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Re: Greek Cruising Tax
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi james;
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There are several agents in most ports of entry in Greece. Most agents have counterparts that they work with in neighboring countries. We always ask for referrals from the agent we check out with for the next port of entry for the country we plan to check
in.
This system has always worked for us. I find that most good people like to do business with people who have similar philosophy in business.
Let me know where you intend to check in at and I can try to find you a referral.
Respectfully;
Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
54 #099
On Jun 1, 2019, at 2:11 AM, James Alton via Groups.Io <lokiyawl2@...> wrote:
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