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Event: ZOOM Meeting with Bill Rouse Presenting what he offers Amel Owners and Amel Buyers - 06/05/2021 #cal-reminder

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Reminder: ZOOM Meeting with Bill Rouse Presenting what he offers Amel Owners and Amel Buyers

When:
06/05/2021
20:00 to 21:00
(UTC+00:00) Etc/GMT

Where:
Galveston, TX

Organizer: Bill Rouse brouse@... +18323806969

An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP

Description:

Note Date Change: As most of you know Tilo Peters, a group member does an amazing job hosting our zoom meetings. He had a conflict with 25 May. Our meeting date has changed to 5 June. I hope that this does not conflict with any attendees' schedules.

 

This ZOOM Meeting will be presented by me, Bill Rouse. This meeting will be for Group Members interested in buying an Amel and Amel Owners wanting more information about their Amels. I will have a special gift for all of those attending the meeting:

I will review all of the things that I offer Amel Buyers and Amel Owners including: 

·       The Amel Book

·       Pre-Purchase Consulting

·       Training Courses

·       24/7 Support

·       The Online Amel Book 

All those that RSVP and attend will receive 30 days of free access to my new Online Amel Book. To receive this, you must RSVP regardless of whether you will attend via Zoom or YouTube. Access instructions and your password to the Online Amel Book will be emailed to each RSVP’d member after the meeting is completed. Access to the Online Amel Book is timely as many of you will be returning to sailing in the coming months. Also, included with access to the Online Amel Book is 30 days of free access to Amel Book Supplements, which if printed would be 20,000 pages. 


Time: June 05, 2021 20:00 GMT

Join Zoom Meeting
https://epfl.zoom.us/j/83048158394?pwd=bzVuSmw5VHVoNHZqMUJEVmhKbm05UT09

Meeting ID: 830 4815 8394
Passcode: 537093

YouTube Live Stream:
https://youtu.be/4j5LXsXxuwA


Re: For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

James Watkins
 

Thanks the Maramu rail is quite different. 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 6:17 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

 

I do not have a line drawing from the manufacturer. 

This is a drawing that I received from Maud. 

The insert that was made is identical to this drawing. 


Pat

SM Shenanigans

 



On May 29, 2021, at 11:15 AM, James Watkins via groups.io <ewatk49734@...> wrote:



It is quite different I am pretty sure it is different.  Do you have a die line drawing?   Thanks

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 2:53 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

 

Jim, Is the rub rail on the Maramu different from the SM ,if not you could use the die already made for SM. 

Pat

SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: James Watkins via groups.io <ewatk49734@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sat, May 29, 2021 3:24 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

I know this is a SM thread but I have ordered a new rub rail for my Maramu and I too have have had good experience with Technorubber.  I will have the die drawings in the next couple of weeks and I will post on site.  The die is $600 and rubrail $1,400.  I did a very unAmel thing and truly improved the sturdiness of the rubber protection.  I will post if anyone is interested.  Some contribution to the die would be great but I am doing the new rail regardless.

 

Best Regards

Jim Watkins

Act II Maramu Hull 186

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Powers SV Aquarius
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 5:47 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

 

Thanks Pat,

But, it's only fair if we should share in the cost of the die as well somehow!  Let's see how many owners that are looking to upgrade their rub rails!

Can you tell me the weight of a set of rub rails for a SM?

Thanks,

Ken Powers
Sailing Aquarius
SM2K#262

 

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Re: For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

Patrick McAneny
 

I do not have a line drawing from the manufacturer. 
This is a drawing that I received from Maud. 
The insert that was made is identical to this drawing. 

Pat
SM Shenanigans


On May 29, 2021, at 11:15 AM, James Watkins via groups.io <ewatk49734@...> wrote:



It is quite different I am pretty sure it is different.  Do you have a die line drawing?   Thanks

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 2:53 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

 

Jim, Is the rub rail on the Maramu different from the SM ,if not you could use the die already made for SM. 

Pat

SM Shenanigans

-----Original Message-----
From: James Watkins via groups.io <ewatk49734@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sat, May 29, 2021 3:24 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

I know this is a SM thread but I have ordered a new rub rail for my Maramu and I too have have had good experience with Technorubber.  I will have the die drawings in the next couple of weeks and I will post on site.  The die is $600 and rubrail $1,400.  I did a very unAmel thing and truly improved the sturdiness of the rubber protection.  I will post if anyone is interested.  Some contribution to the die would be great but I am doing the new rail regardless.

 

Best Regards

Jim Watkins

Act II Maramu Hull 186

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Powers SV Aquarius
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 5:47 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

 

Thanks Pat,

But, it's only fair if we should share in the cost of the die as well somehow!  Let's see how many owners that are looking to upgrade their rub rails!

Can you tell me the weight of a set of rub rails for a SM?

Thanks,

Ken Powers
Sailing Aquarius
SM2K#262

 

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Re: For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

James Watkins
 

It is quite different I am pretty sure it is different.  Do you have a die line drawing?   Thanks

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 2:53 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

 

Jim, Is the rub rail on the Maramu different from the SM ,if not you could use the die already made for SM. 

Pat

SM Shenanigans

-----Original Message-----
From: James Watkins via groups.io <ewatk49734@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sat, May 29, 2021 3:24 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

I know this is a SM thread but I have ordered a new rub rail for my Maramu and I too have have had good experience with Technorubber.  I will have the die drawings in the next couple of weeks and I will post on site.  The die is $600 and rubrail $1,400.  I did a very unAmel thing and truly improved the sturdiness of the rubber protection.  I will post if anyone is interested.  Some contribution to the die would be great but I am doing the new rail regardless.

 

Best Regards

Jim Watkins

Act II Maramu Hull 186

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Powers SV Aquarius
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 5:47 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

 

Thanks Pat,

But, it's only fair if we should share in the cost of the die as well somehow!  Let's see how many owners that are looking to upgrade their rub rails!

Can you tell me the weight of a set of rub rails for a SM?

Thanks,

Ken Powers
Sailing Aquarius
SM2K#262

 


Re: For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

Patrick McAneny
 

Jim, Is the rub rail on the Maramu different from the SM ,if not you could use the die already made for SM. 
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: James Watkins via groups.io <ewatk49734@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sat, May 29, 2021 3:24 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

I know this is a SM thread but I have ordered a new rub rail for my Maramu and I too have have had good experience with Technorubber.  I will have the die drawings in the next couple of weeks and I will post on site.  The die is $600 and rubrail $1,400.  I did a very unAmel thing and truly improved the sturdiness of the rubber protection.  I will post if anyone is interested.  Some contribution to the die would be great but I am doing the new rail regardless.
 
Best Regards
Jim Watkins
Act II Maramu Hull 186
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Powers SV Aquarius
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 5:47 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails
 
Thanks Pat,

But, it's only fair if we should share in the cost of the die as well somehow!  Let's see how many owners that are looking to upgrade their rub rails!

Can you tell me the weight of a set of rub rails for a SM?

Thanks,

Ken Powers
Sailing Aquarius
SM2K#262


Re: For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

Patrick McAneny
 

Ken, You know just this morning ,thinking about the potential for another group buy  ,I  wished that I had measured the shipping box and weight . I would guess the boxes were 3'x3' ,(each insert come in a separate box) ,I would estimate the weight to be about 35 lbs. each. There may be another owner who has yet to install their inserts and can provide the exact size and weight, if not the manufacturer may have that info. They are very nice people to deal with and will do anything to help and answer questions. 
As to the die, I would have to check to see what I paid for it ,about $600 or so, which cost each of us approx. about $54 or so. I am not personally concerned about further reimbursement for the die. Maybe a contribution to the Amel site ,if it is needed?
I would be happy to obtain any further info from the manufacturer if needed.
Good Luck ,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Fri, May 28, 2021 11:46 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

Thanks Pat,

But, it's only fair if we should share in the cost of the die as well somehow!  Let's see how many owners that are looking to upgrade their rub rails!

Can you tell me the weight of a set of rub rails for a SM?

Thanks,

Ken Powers
Sailing Aquarius
SM2K#262


Re: Downwind sailing on Amel 54 and storm jibs

Arno Luijten
 

Our 54 has the twin headsail downwind option. It has the custom forestay foil with three grooves and the swivel with the latching system. We have two whisker poles which are huge and heavy. One is mounted at the mast and the second one is on deck. They are a pig to handle.
They work differently compared to the Super Maramu as they are attached to the base of the mast when in operation and one-piece. The reason for this is that the rigging is different with swept-back spreaders and a different stay set up.
I think it works as well as on the Super Maramu but I have not used in in anger yet. We also have a gennaker on a top-down furler. It all was part of the boat when we bought her.
Setting up the whisker-pole is quite the effort as you need to attach a lot of lines at the tip of the pole being in front of the forestay at that moment. The weight and size of the pole makes it intimidating. I had a look at replacing the aluminum tubes with carbon fibre but found that intimidating as well, on financial level...
Once you manage to set up the poles it works pretty easy and you can furl both sails together.

Using the staysail is easy, You just need to use the running back-stays in high wind situations. As the cars for the sheets are movable you can also furl this sail to a smaller area, removing the need for a storm-jib. At least that is my opinion.

I don’t think the is a significant difference in the rolling motion for the 54 compared to the SM. Although the underwatership is a bit more rounded, it also has a bit more stability aft because of the wider hull at that point.  I guess is these factors cancel each other out in this respect.
That does not mean the rolling motion cannot be annoying at times on a 54. I fell almost out of bed once when anchored at Guadeloupe. I’m afraid that is one of the perks of owning a monohull. 


Regards,
Arno Luijten,
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

James Watkins
 

I know this is a SM thread but I have ordered a new rub rail for my Maramu and I too have have had good experience with Technorubber.  I will have the die drawings in the next couple of weeks and I will post on site.  The die is $600 and rubrail $1,400.  I did a very unAmel thing and truly improved the sturdiness of the rubber protection.  I will post if anyone is interested.  Some contribution to the die would be great but I am doing the new rail regardless.

 

Best Regards

Jim Watkins

Act II Maramu Hull 186

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Powers SV Aquarius
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 5:47 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

 

Thanks Pat,

But, it's only fair if we should share in the cost of the die as well somehow!  Let's see how many owners that are looking to upgrade their rub rails!

Can you tell me the weight of a set of rub rails for a SM?

Thanks,

Ken Powers
Sailing Aquarius
SM2K#262


Re: For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

michael winand
 

Hi Ken, we would be happy to buy a set,  made enquiries last time. Shipping costs to Australia were not viable. 
So we are a maybe,  once we know what it takes to get them to Australia. 
Ours are still in good shape. But we will be doing a topside rejuvenation in the next few years, so they would be great to have ready. 
Michael  Nebo sm251 


On Sat, 29 May 2021 at 1:46 pm, Ken Powers SV Aquarius
<ken@...> wrote:
Thanks Pat,

But, it's only fair if we should share in the cost of the die as well somehow!  Let's see how many owners that are looking to upgrade their rub rails!

Can you tell me the weight of a set of rub rails for a SM?

Thanks,

Ken Powers
Sailing Aquarius
SM2K#262


Re: For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
 

Thanks Pat,

But, it's only fair if we should share in the cost of the die as well somehow!  Let's see how many owners that are looking to upgrade their rub rails!

Can you tell me the weight of a set of rub rails for a SM?

Thanks,

Ken Powers
Sailing Aquarius
SM2K#262


Re: Downwind sailing on Amel 54 and storm jibs

Courtney Gorman
 

Two down wind poles are available for the 54 and can be sailed as the supermaramu 
Cheers 
Courtney 
54#101


On May 28, 2021, at 5:36 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Twin poles was an option for the A54. Some 54s have a twin pole ballooner option, but not many. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Fri, May 28, 2021, 10:57 AM Paul Harries via groups.io <Pharries=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
As a prospective buyer of an Amel I am so appreciative of the information on this forum, reading the forum messages provides a superb education unavailable elsewhere. I have recently been reading "Heavy Weather Sailing" and my obsession with the Amel approach to boat design and build has been further reinforced!

I do have a couple of questions I cant find answers to though:

I am unable to find anything on the internet regarding downwind sailing on the 54s, I gather unlike the Super Maramou it is not possible to fly true twin headsails, but the 54 is Spinnaker ready and has an inner forestay with furling staysail. Does this setup work as well downwind as the Super Maramou? Does the 54 rock more than the Super Maramou on prolonged downwind passages? Has anyone done a video on 54 sail utilization?

Do any of you carry storm jibs?
Any problems with jibs unfurling in heavy weather on either a 54 or super Maramou?

Thank you

--
Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer


Re: Downwind sailing on Amel 54 and storm jibs

 

Twin poles was an option for the A54. Some 54s have a twin pole ballooner option, but not many. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Fri, May 28, 2021, 10:57 AM Paul Harries via groups.io <Pharries=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
As a prospective buyer of an Amel I am so appreciative of the information on this forum, reading the forum messages provides a superb education unavailable elsewhere. I have recently been reading "Heavy Weather Sailing" and my obsession with the Amel approach to boat design and build has been further reinforced!

I do have a couple of questions I cant find answers to though:

I am unable to find anything on the internet regarding downwind sailing on the 54s, I gather unlike the Super Maramou it is not possible to fly true twin headsails, but the 54 is Spinnaker ready and has an inner forestay with furling staysail. Does this setup work as well downwind as the Super Maramou? Does the 54 rock more than the Super Maramou on prolonged downwind passages? Has anyone done a video on 54 sail utilization?

Do any of you carry storm jibs?
Any problems with jibs unfurling in heavy weather on either a 54 or super Maramou?

Thank you

--
Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer


Re: For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

Patrick McAneny
 

Ken, you would not need that many to make it financially attractive, I paid for the die to be made up front, and then each owner that joined into the purchase  reimbursed me their share of the expense of the die, about $600-$700. We had about eleven in the initial purchase and it was a good value , it would even be a better value for the next group as they would not be paying the cost of having the die made. That is why I was encouraging owners to join ,as each additional buyer brought down the price for everyone.
Good Luck ,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Thu, May 27, 2021 10:07 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

For those Amel Owners who would like to procure new Rub Rails within the next 6 months:

Add your name to the list.  If we can get about 15 boats, we will move forward with the purchase.

1.  Aquarius, Ken Powers
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.

Sailing Aquarius
SM2K#262
Currently in Thailand


Downwind sailing on Amel 54 and storm jibs

Paul Harries
 

As a prospective buyer of an Amel I am so appreciative of the information on this forum, reading the forum messages provides a superb education unavailable elsewhere. I have recently been reading "Heavy Weather Sailing" and my obsession with the Amel approach to boat design and build has been further reinforced!

I do have a couple of questions I cant find answers to though:

I am unable to find anything on the internet regarding downwind sailing on the 54s, I gather unlike the Super Maramou it is not possible to fly true twin headsails, but the 54 is Spinnaker ready and has an inner forestay with furling staysail. Does this setup work as well downwind as the Super Maramou? Does the 54 rock more than the Super Maramou on prolonged downwind passages? Has anyone done a video on 54 sail utilization?

Do any of you carry storm jibs?
Any problems with jibs unfurling in heavy weather on either a 54 or super Maramou?

Thank you

--
Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer


Shower water mixer on SuperMaramu

smnefeli
 

I am away from Nefeli right now and cannot take the measure myself.

Can anybody check the diameter of the hole that hosts the shower water mixer on the SuperMaramu?

Any help wiil be appreciated.

Fernando
s/y Nefeli
SM 38


Re: Security Alarm system)Anxhor Alarm

Billy Newport
 

I looked at a GOST system last year for my old boat but at 14k installed, I stopped looking. I just self installed a Ring security alarm on my Amel 55. A spotlight battery wifi camera in the cockpit looking AFT, a contact sensor on the rear lazerrete and cockpit door and then PIR motion sensors in fwd cabin, main cabin and captain berth (easier than hatch contact switches). It's a pretty clean install, all wireless, sirens are inside on the base unit and the spotlight camera. I mean, it works and works offline but for video snapshots you'd need an LTE hotspot type thing which is what I do. For 500 bucks, not bad.


Re: Installing rub rail inserts

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Darren & Karen (how alliterative ;-) and any others interested in replacement rubber rub rail inserts. 
You're right - these are not Stainless rub rails. These are replacements for the original brown rubber inserts that go the full length of the FRP Rub Rails and which over the years take on a nasty chalky brown that cannot be restored effectively. 
Pat McEnery on Shenanigans found a Miami, FL manufacturer of extruded rubber products (like dinghy rub rails and dock bumpers) and sent them a section of his old insert from which they made an extrusion die and several of us ordered our replacements, sharing the cost of the die. 
The product was excellent and was an off-white instead of the original brown. So far it seems not to be prone to UV deterioration and looks great.
See my previous posts for the direct contact with the company - they do ship internationally, although I do not know the cost. Mine were $890US (no shipping charge as I picked them up at the factory) and I only needed 88 feet, being a SN not a SM. Your cost would be somewhat more, of course.
This is a small family business which I found very creditable after visiting the factory.  The contact person, Paula Murador (the owners daughter)  is most helpful and can certainly walk you through a purchase. I think she would like to get several orders together and then offer a group discount, but you need to contact her directly. Here's her contact info:

Paula Murador

Director, Account Manager
 

9401 NW 106th ST # 111 | Medley, FL 33178
Office: (305)888-6324

Fax:(305)888-6325
www.technorubberindustries.com  

Here's a picture of a sample section installed on my boat.

--
Cheers, Craig - SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
 

For those Amel Owners who would like to procure new Rub Rails within the next 6 months:

Add your name to the list.  If we can get about 15 boats, we will move forward with the purchase.

1.  Aquarius, Ken Powers
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.

Sailing Aquarius
SM2K#262
Currently in Thailand


Re: Installing rub rail inserts

Darren Moore
 

Hi Craig,

I am new to the SM and are wondering what these rub rail inserts are? and what costs are involved

I looked in the photo's section under rub rail and found some Stainless rub rails, but I don't think that is what you are talking about

--
Darren & Karen
SM171
Tradewinds III
Tasmania, Australia


Re: New Zealand

David Vogel
 

Greetings all,

Yes, the maritime border to NZ is closed. But it is possible to apply for and be granted an exception to arrive in NZ via sea. We have done so.

You can make the application the relevant authorities yourself, at no cost to lodge, but increased uncertainty as to the outcome. Or you can engage an agent who has processed applications into the system before = greater certainty. We used an agent. Cost was a one-off agent’s fee of USD650- to do so.

The time was 4 weeks to complete the paperwork in coordination with the Agent. Then, once the (32-page) application was submitted, it took three weeks to be granted the exemption. The exemption does not have an expiry date on it; but your application paperwork does have time-and-cost elements as a component of the committed work schedule/s, so the timing is inherent in the approval.

Apart from humanitarian / compassionate grounds, the only grounds for approval with be on the basis of delivering Economic Benefit to NZ. There are only two main reasons that will be considered in support of an application for exemption.

1. Delivering your boat to a business (e.g. for sale); or
2. Major refit, repairs, &/or refurbishment.

We used the term “significant programme of repairs & refurbishment” to support our application.

There is no exact defined figure for economic benefit, but (based on seeing who got approved, and who not) the baseline amount before your application will be considered is NZD50k.

Marina fees, yards fees, part & paid labour, and project management fees may be included. Costs incurred by crew (such as food, accommodation, lodging, land-travel, or consuming copious quantities of great Kiwi wine) are not.

To start with, we baulked at that amount. But, upon reflection, we realised that, by the time we get to NZ, we will have been sailing more-or-less constantly for almost 5 years. And so it will be high time to take some time-out, pause and find a base from where to attend to those many items of repairs and maintenance (“The List”) that cannot be so easily done in remote areas, or while there is an imperative to keep the boat in one piece and in a seaworthy condition (meaning, available to move to avoid adverse seasonal weather – i.e. the cyclone season in the South Pacific).

So, I totalled up all of those items of repairs & maintenance (including planned upgrades), and were able to easily exceed the NZ$50k threshold amount. It is also made easier to swallow, considering that we plan to be in NZ for 18 months, and additional items of repairs & maintenance will naturally arise within that timeframe.

When you consider the difficulty in getting *quality* work done in many other places, especially whilst on-the-move, the lure of NZ is undeniable. And if we are going to do the work in any case, then the cost is really not so much of an issue. Compare this to the rule-of-thumb, 5 to 10% of the value of the boat on R&M in any one year, spread over two years, with guaranteed quality, then it becomes a much easier decision.

All that said, we plan to travel from French Polynesia to Fiji, before heading southwards to NZ. Things are very changeable out here at the moment, with Fiji closing up a little more this past week, so another season in FP may become a necessity. The list of R&M won’t get any shorter …

Hope this information helps inform the debate.

And thanks to those providing recommendations for vendors and suppliers in NZ – very much appreciated.

David
Perigee, SM#396
On the dock attending to turbo issues
Papeete Marina, Tahiti


From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Robert Thomson <yachtmemo@gmail.com>
Reply-To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Monday, 24 May 2021 at 11:27 am
To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New Zealand

We are thinking of trying to get into New Zealand later this year on the basis Memo will need a refit. Can any one recommend New Zealand yards that would have experience of Amel yachts.

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