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Re: Yacht insurance

John Clark
 

Hi James,
   Yes we got booted from TopSail UK for 2019 thanks to the US registration.  We eventually settled with IMIS and the Jackline policy.  It is about 40% more expensive than the policy we had with TopSail, but their hurricane exclusion area is north of Grenada and south of Jacksonville FL. 

Be careful a few of the other policies we quoted would not cover the vessel at all for any casualty during hurricane season when inside the hurricane zone even if there was no storm present. 

John Clark
SV Annie  SM37
Brunswick GA


On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:09 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello fellow Amelians - 
I know that there has been recent discussion on various insurance carriers, and many people have found the need to change insurers due to geographic limitations or extremely restrictive policies.  

I am now in the same predicament and am looking to change from Pantaenius to another insurer while in the Southern / Western Caribbean during the hurricane season.  
 I have inquired with Y-Yachts and Top Sail, and both of these informed me that they cannot yet insure US documented yachts. 
I have found Novamar to be reasonably priced and will allow us to keep our boat in the ABC's during the hurricane season.  

Do any of you have experience with Novamar?  
I am also interested in recommendations for other carriers.  

As always, I greatly appreciate the time and shared experience of the group!  

Best,
James
Soteria SM2000 #347
Frederiksted, St. Croix


Re: Yacht insurance

Courtney Gorman
 

Thanks James! 


-----Original Message-----
From: James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 4, 2019 10:41 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Yacht insurance

Courtney-
Pantaenius provided coverage if we remained north of 7 degrees north, and south of 10 degrees north during July 15 and November 1. This excludes Grenada, Trinidad, and the ABCs. Of course, they will provide coverage without that restriction if we were willing to pay $8,200 premium and have a deductible of $63,000.  This renders the policy prohibitively expensive for us.  In addition, their securement  policy during a named tropical storm would be difficult to execute in most locations. 

So, yes, you can get coverage without them but it is not amenable to our needs.  

James

On Apr 4, 2019 10:27, "Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io" <Itsfun1@...> wrote:
James what is the issue with Pantaenius they have told me that I'm fine in Grenada?
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101 St Thomas


-----Original Message-----
From: James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Apr 3, 2019 10:09 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Yacht insurance

Hello fellow Amelians - 
I know that there has been recent discussion on various insurance carriers, and many people have found the need to change insurers due to geographic limitations or extremely restrictive policies.  

I am now in the same predicament and am looking to change from Pantaenius to another insurer while in the Southern / Western Caribbean during the hurricane season.  
 I have inquired with Y-Yachts and Top Sail, and both of these informed me that they cannot yet insure US documented yachts. 
I have found Novamar to be reasonably priced and will allow us to keep our boat in the ABC's during the hurricane season.  

Do any of you have experience with Novamar?  
I am also interested in recommendations for other carriers.  

As always, I greatly appreciate the time and shared experience of the group!  

Best,
James
Soteria SM2000 #347
Frederiksted, St. Croix


Vetus Coupling - When to Service and Replace Rubber Donuts - Warning

 

All,

A client of mine recently replaced the Rubber Bushings inside his Vetus Coupling. His SM Yanmar had 4500 hours and zero vibration. Please look at the Rubber Bushings which were removed. It is estimated that within a few hundred hours, there would have been serious problems.
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I recommend that you seriously plan on replacing these rubber bushings (Vetus K018 Bushing Kit) beginning at 3500 hours. Be careful because this job really requires some experience in realigning the engine/transmission/C-Drive. If you are in the Caribbean I recommend Didier at La Marina du Marin. Contact: Didier Lohezic <vaguesca"at"gmail.com> Mobile +596696815722. If you do not use Didier, I recommend that you source the Amel alignment coupling blank seen here:
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You will likely replace the 4 bolts and nuts with: 
  • 4 each 10mm diameter, 9cm long threaded studs 
  • 8  nylon-insert lock nut 
  • Specify for the studs and nuts: Hardened Steel (Grade 8 in the US and normally black in color). 

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970


Re: Yacht insurance

Mark Erdos
 

Bill,

 

Our existing Pantaenius policy was changed after the big storms a couple of years ago. Our coverage with them was since 2012 ish. The big change was in the past we would submit a storm plan to them and they would base our deductable on the location and the plan. I thought this to be very fair and flexible. Instead they opted to use a rigid policy where they dictate the storm plan to us. I could not find anywhere inside the Caribbean where I felt I could meet the parameters outlined in the policy amendment. I mean seriously, how am I suppose to know how much the concrete blocks weight or the breaking strength of the straps used. And according to the policy wording, if one of the blocks weighed 4999 lbs, the entire claim would be voided if we had damage. And, where the heck to we find room to store 22 fenders aboard the vessel? As soon as I read this, I decided it was time to change. I was just slow about it. But, when the rate increase came it was added motivation. I was basically paying for hurricane coverage knowing I couldn’t meet the requirements last season. Anyone know of anywhere in the entire Carib where you can secure the vessel between two fixed concrete piers, assuming you have the 22 fenders? This was just all very ridiculous! But not as ridiculous as this, “The insured vessel shall be hauled and stored in a building rated to withstand CAT 4 or greater storms”. I mean com’ on!!!!  Now I am suppose to be a structural engineer?

 

 

IT IS EXPRESSLY WARRANTED BY THE INSURED THAT DURING A NTS THE VESSEL SHALL FULLY COMPLY WITH THE NAMED TROPICAL STORM PLAN REQUIREMENTS STATED BELOW. IT IS ACKNOWLEDGED, UNDERSTOOD, AND AGREED BY THE INSURED THAT ANY DEVIATION FROM THE NAMED TROPICAL STORM PLAN REQUIREMENTS BELOW SHALL BE DEEMED A BREACH OF THIS WARRANTY AND WILL VOID COVERAGE FOR ANY AND ALL DAMAGE OR LOSS, DEFENSE COSTS, AND LIABILITIES ARISING FROM THE NTS REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE DEVIATION WAS A CAUSE OF THE DAMAGE OR LOSS. THERE SHALL BE NO COVERAGE FOR DAMAGE OR LOSS ARISING FROM A NTS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES IF REASONABLE CARE IS NOT EXERCISED TO SECURE OR MOVE THE VESSEL IN ORDER TO PREVENT DAMAGE AND LOSS.

 

NAMED TROPICAL STORM PLAN REQUIREMENTS:

 

1.                   The insured vessel shall be hauled and secured a unitized cradle suitable for the vessel or in a hurricane pit.  With either arrangement, the vessel is to be lashed directly to the ground or to concrete blocks, one concrete block with a minimum weight of 5000 lbs to be located at each lashing anchor point.  Lashing is to be accomplished using a minimum of one (1) tensioning strap located symmetrically on each side of the vessel for every10 feet of vessel length. Each strap shall have a minimum breaking strength of 5000 lbs. Single straps may be run transversely across the vessel and lashed to the ground or concrete blocks on both sides of the vessel to accomplishrequired lashings.In addition, the vessel interior and stowage lockers shall be secured and locked to prevent theft and vandalism and all loose or removable items, components, parts, and equipment, including but not limited to personal effects, sails, cushions, canvas, covers, and booms, must be removed and properly secured to prevent damage or loss.

 

-or-

 

2.                   The insured vessel shall be hauled and stored in a building rated to withstand CAT 4 or greater storms.

 

-or-

 

3.         The insured vessel shall be secured between two fixed piers or a fixed pier and a bulkhead or two bulkheads; these fixed structures to which the insured vessel is secured must be suitable to sustain the wave action of the NTS. The size of the berth and the manner in which the insured vessel is secured shall be such that there is a minimum of 6 feet of distance between the vessel and each fixed pier or bulkhead and any adjacent vessels or pilings. The insured vessel shall NOT be secured to floating piers or docks. The insured vessel shall be secured by a minimum of 8 doubled lines on each side of the vessel (16 total lines) with appropriate chaffing protection and shall include a minimum of bow, stern, head spring, and back spring lines. The insured vessel shall be fendered every 5 feet on its sides.

 

 

-or-

 

4.                   The insured vessel maybe moved in order to avoid the effects of the NTS and prevent damage or loss, provided the vessel is moved in a time, manner, and direction reasonably calculated to avoid the NTS based on the projected path of the NTS and provided the projected path of the NTS is monitored by the insured at all times. If the vessel is moved and then secured, it must be secured in accordancewith requirement 1, 2, or 3 above, unless the projected path of the NTS indicates the vessel will not be affected by the NTS. 

 

 

To me, this was basically saying they no longer wanted our business, a fine example of a great company implementing crap policies. I regretted having to leave Pantaenius because I really like working with Scott. He was always very quick to respond and helpful. I have since found this same business acumen at Y-Yacht.

 

BTW – The Pacific Ocean coverage with Pantaenius was in excess of $10,000 and would not cover a Panama Canal transit. In addition, three people would be required on passages over 36 hours adding an expense of hiring additional crew. Our next highest policy quote was 20% less.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - San Blas Islands, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill RoBiuse
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Yacht insurance

 

Courtney, 

 

Something to consider:

When was your Pantaenius policy written? It is possible that newer Pantaenius policies are even more restrictive. If so, what James is reporting may come to be true for you when your Pantaenius policy renews.

 

Best,

 

Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St.

Galveston, Texas 77550

832-380-4970

Image removed by sender.

 

 

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 9:41 AM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Courtney-

Pantaenius provided coverage if we remained north of 7 degrees north, and south of 10 degrees north during July 15 and November 1. This excludes Grenada, Trinidad, and the ABCs. Of course, they will provide coverage without that restriction if we were willing to pay $8,200 premium and have a deductible of $63,000.  This renders the policy prohibitively expensive for us.  In addition, their securement  policy during a named tropical storm would be difficult to execute in most locations. 

 

So, yes, you can get coverage without them but it is not amenable to our needs.  

 

James

 

On Apr 4, 2019 10:27, "Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io" <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

James what is the issue with Pantaenius they have told me that I'm fine in Grenada?

Cheers

Courtney

Trippin

54 #101 St Thomas

 

-----Original Message-----
From: James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Apr 3, 2019 10:09 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Yacht insurance

Hello fellow Amelians - 
I know that there has been recent discussion on various insurance carriers, and many people have found the need to change insurers due to geographic limitations or extremely restrictive policies.  

I am now in the same predicament and am looking to change from Pantaenius to another insurer while in the Southern / Western Caribbean during the hurricane season.  
 I have inquired with Y-Yachts and Top Sail, and both of these informed me that they cannot yet insure US documented yachts. 
I have found Novamar to be reasonably priced and will allow us to keep our boat in the ABC's during the hurricane season.  

Do any of you have experience with Novamar?  
I am also interested in recommendations for other carriers.  

As always, I greatly appreciate the time and shared experience of the group!  

Best,
James
Soteria SM2000 #347
Frederiksted, St. Croix

 


MANGO folding Table

Mark McGovern
 

Hello to the owner of a MANGO who has asked me for information on the Tórtola's folding table.
 
Unfortunately your email has disappeared from my inbox, possibly inadvertently erased by myself.

Here are some pictures of the table.  You can also find them i
n The following link. 







But If you want to build it you should send me your email again to give you the details.

Best regards
Juan
MANGO 56
Cartagena de Indias


Re: Yacht insurance

 

Courtney, 

Something to consider:
When was your Pantaenius policy written? It is possible that newer Pantaenius policies are even more restrictive. If so, what James is reporting may come to be true for you when your Pantaenius policy renews.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 9:41 AM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Courtney-
Pantaenius provided coverage if we remained north of 7 degrees north, and south of 10 degrees north during July 15 and November 1. This excludes Grenada, Trinidad, and the ABCs. Of course, they will provide coverage without that restriction if we were willing to pay $8,200 premium and have a deductible of $63,000.  This renders the policy prohibitively expensive for us.  In addition, their securement  policy during a named tropical storm would be difficult to execute in most locations. 

So, yes, you can get coverage without them but it is not amenable to our needs.  

James

On Apr 4, 2019 10:27, "Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io" <Itsfun1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
James what is the issue with Pantaenius they have told me that I'm fine in Grenada?
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101 St Thomas


-----Original Message-----
From: James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Apr 3, 2019 10:09 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Yacht insurance

Hello fellow Amelians - 
I know that there has been recent discussion on various insurance carriers, and many people have found the need to change insurers due to geographic limitations or extremely restrictive policies.  

I am now in the same predicament and am looking to change from Pantaenius to another insurer while in the Southern / Western Caribbean during the hurricane season.  
 I have inquired with Y-Yachts and Top Sail, and both of these informed me that they cannot yet insure US documented yachts. 
I have found Novamar to be reasonably priced and will allow us to keep our boat in the ABC's during the hurricane season.  

Do any of you have experience with Novamar?  
I am also interested in recommendations for other carriers.  

As always, I greatly appreciate the time and shared experience of the group!  

Best,
James
Soteria SM2000 #347
Frederiksted, St. Croix


Re: Yacht insurance

James Cromie
 

Courtney-
Pantaenius provided coverage if we remained north of 7 degrees north, and south of 10 degrees north during July 15 and November 1. This excludes Grenada, Trinidad, and the ABCs. Of course, they will provide coverage without that restriction if we were willing to pay $8,200 premium and have a deductible of $63,000.  This renders the policy prohibitively expensive for us.  In addition, their securement  policy during a named tropical storm would be difficult to execute in most locations. 

So, yes, you can get coverage without them but it is not amenable to our needs.  

James

On Apr 4, 2019 10:27, "Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io" <Itsfun1@...> wrote:
James what is the issue with Pantaenius they have told me that I'm fine in Grenada?
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101 St Thomas


-----Original Message-----
From: James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Apr 3, 2019 10:09 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Yacht insurance

Hello fellow Amelians - 
I know that there has been recent discussion on various insurance carriers, and many people have found the need to change insurers due to geographic limitations or extremely restrictive policies.  

I am now in the same predicament and am looking to change from Pantaenius to another insurer while in the Southern / Western Caribbean during the hurricane season.  
 I have inquired with Y-Yachts and Top Sail, and both of these informed me that they cannot yet insure US documented yachts. 
I have found Novamar to be reasonably priced and will allow us to keep our boat in the ABC's during the hurricane season.  

Do any of you have experience with Novamar?  
I am also interested in recommendations for other carriers.  

As always, I greatly appreciate the time and shared experience of the group!  

Best,
James
Soteria SM2000 #347
Frederiksted, St. Croix


Re: Yacht insurance

Courtney Gorman
 

James what is the issue with Pantaenius they have told me that I'm fine in Grenada?
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101 St Thomas


-----Original Message-----
From: James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Apr 3, 2019 10:09 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Yacht insurance

Hello fellow Amelians - 
I know that there has been recent discussion on various insurance carriers, and many people have found the need to change insurers due to geographic limitations or extremely restrictive policies.  

I am now in the same predicament and am looking to change from Pantaenius to another insurer while in the Southern / Western Caribbean during the hurricane season.  
 I have inquired with Y-Yachts and Top Sail, and both of these informed me that they cannot yet insure US documented yachts. 
I have found Novamar to be reasonably priced and will allow us to keep our boat in the ABC's during the hurricane season.  

Do any of you have experience with Novamar?  
I am also interested in recommendations for other carriers.  

As always, I greatly appreciate the time and shared experience of the group!  

Best,
James
Soteria SM2000 #347
Frederiksted, St. Croix


Bow Thruster Primary Circuit Protection

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

There has been discussions about high amperage fusing & disconnects for the bow thruster.  Has anyone been able to source a high amperage circuit breaker?  I believe ours is an 8.8kw motor that draws 375 amps, a 500amp circuit breaker would be reasonable to protect the cabling, motor, & boat. 

 

If you know of a source for a breaker of this size please advise.  Thanks.


--
Mark & Debbie Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: Dessalator shuts down for no apparent reason - CAT Pump Modification for less than 160 liters

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

Hi Paul,
If not to much trouble could you please forward a photo of the TDS sensor, I would like to see if the Dessalator on our version includes this item.  I have always heard that the TDS sensor on at least the Dessalator 160's is a myth.  That the "Good Quality" light related only to a time delay circuit in the control system not an actual internal check.  Thanks.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: Yacht insurance

Mark Erdos
 

James,

 

I just made the same change due to the parameters of Pantaenius. We are not US flagged and I have a British citizenship so this gave us a lot more options. We opted to go with Y-Yacht and found them super easy to deal with and less expensive than our current policy with Pantaenius. Our second choice was Novamar based on recommendations of other cruising sailors, also cheaper than Pantaenius. We chose Y because the Pacific coverage offered by them was superior. If we would be staying in the Caribbean we probably would have opted for Novamar. Novamar is an A-rated company using the USA rating system. There is a very good agent we worked with (it cost nothing more to work with him) who can help negotiate the initial requirements to get a policy:

 

Chris Boome Insurance Agency

LIC# 0A99058

751 Laurel Street #216

San Carlos, CA 94070

O: 650-517-3160  C: 650-464-0728

WWW.CHRISBOOME.COM

E-mail: chris@...

 

 

Based on many recommendations, we also look at a Jackline policy from IMIS – Gowrie. We found this company very rude and unresponsive. The quote was also very high.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - San Blas Islands, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Cromie via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 10:09 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Yacht insurance

 

Hello fellow Amelians - 
I know that there has been recent discussion on various insurance carriers, and many people have found the need to change insurers due to geographic limitations or extremely restrictive policies.  

I am now in the same predicament and am looking to change from Pantaenius to another insurer while in the Southern / Western Caribbean during the hurricane season.  
 I have inquired with Y-Yachts and Top Sail, and both of these informed me that they cannot yet insure US documented yachts. 
I have found Novamar to be reasonably priced and will allow us to keep our boat in the ABC's during the hurricane season.  

Do any of you have experience with Novamar?  
I am also interested in recommendations for other carriers.  

As always, I greatly appreciate the time and shared experience of the group!  

Best,
James
Soteria SM2000 #347
Frederiksted, St. Croix


Battery Replacement 2019

Alan "Woody" Wood
 

'afternoon folks..

I flicked through the forum for the latest info on battery replacements for my SM 1997 but seems the topic hasn't come up for a while.. and I know battery technology has moved on a bit in the last few years as well as the Chinese flooding the market with unfamiliar brands. Forgetting Lithium for now (too expensive!) what brands/sizes/makes are SM owners currently replacing their banks with?

We're wintering in Spain where Varta and Vetus seem to be popular brands and can be ordered quickly and cheaply from SVB Marine. 

(We currently have 8 x 90ah Victron gels and 1 x Bosh S5 100ah for engine and a Mastervolt 24/100-3 charger. We're also currently installing 735w of solar with a Victron 100/50 controller - not sure if that makes any difference!).

Cheers for now

Woody  
SV Haddock SM #189


Re: Dessalator shuts down for no apparent reason - CAT Pump Modification for less than 160 liters

Gary Silver
 

Hi Bill and Paul:

If the run capacitors on the 230 volt motor are old and out of specification they can cause your motor to run hot.  It might be worth disconnecting the capacitors and testing their capacitance with a multimeter that has a capacitance measuring capability.  My experience is that these capacitors are good for about 10 years.  Just one more thing to consider.

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 #335
Puerto Del Rey Marina, Puerto Rico


Yacht insurance

James Cromie
 

Hello fellow Amelians - 
I know that there has been recent discussion on various insurance carriers, and many people have found the need to change insurers due to geographic limitations or extremely restrictive policies.  

I am now in the same predicament and am looking to change from Pantaenius to another insurer while in the Southern / Western Caribbean during the hurricane season.  
 I have inquired with Y-Yachts and Top Sail, and both of these informed me that they cannot yet insure US documented yachts. 
I have found Novamar to be reasonably priced and will allow us to keep our boat in the ABC's during the hurricane season.  

Do any of you have experience with Novamar?  
I am also interested in recommendations for other carriers.  

As always, I greatly appreciate the time and shared experience of the group!  

Best,
James
Soteria SM2000 #347
Frederiksted, St. Croix


Re: Dessalator shuts down for no apparent reason - CAT Pump Modification for less than 160 liters

Paul Dowd <paul.dowd@...>
 

Hi Arno,

Ok, I have found the problem: it was the TDS sensor connections that were corroded so it was shutting down because it thought the water quality was bad. However, what confused me is that I thought the red alarm light should go on in this case but it does not. The other thing that confused me was that after you suggested it was the motor thermal cut-out I checked the temperature of the motor and it was too hot to touch, but it now seems that was just because the generator was running. Then when I tries the 240V motor that also seemed very hot, but in that occasion it stopped because the pulley wheel bearing was not holding.

After cleaning the TDS connections and changing the pulley wheel it has now been working fine for an hour with the generator running. I am now getting the old pulley wheel welded so it can still be used but without the other side connected. I paid €300 for it and it lasted only a year!

I also checked the TDS and its 420ppm and I believe less than 500 is ok.

About belt tightness, they can be tightened by sliding the motor on its mounting.

In reply to Bill's request about the CAT pump, when my last one gave up I got a used CAT 277 but the 24V breaker kept tripping. I asked Dessalator and they said you cannot use the this one as it will burn out the motor. That's when I ordered one from Dessalator, and they sent me a CAT 237. My old one had the centre piston removed and blocked off. I don’t know if the new one is the same and I'm not about to take it apart to find out. I note that BHP pumps sells a CAT 237 for USD1113 whereas I paid Dessalator EUR1300 = USD1450. I note some differences in the spec between the 277 and 237, but I still don’t know if the blocked centre piston is a standard feature or a Dessalator modification.

Cheers,
Paul
S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arno Luijten
Sent: 03 April 2019 12:56
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator shuts down for no apparent reason - CAT Pump Modification for less than 160 liters

Hi Paul,

When I took apart my watermaker last week I saw no way to tighten the belts. So over tightening the belts seems unlikely unless you have replace them with shorter ones.
It seems like your pump is taking more power than expected to rotate. Did something change about the pump?
I did replace the oil in mine (using standard 15W40 motor oil as prescribed). There is a small indicator that tells you about the oil level.
Did you take any of the single direction pulleys off? Did you put them back on in the correct way?
Also you may have introduced a blockage in the path after the pump. Does it run smoothly when you take off the HP hose from the mebranes?

Just some suggestions to help determine what is wrong…

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna
A54-121


Re: Bruntons older than1996 maintance manuel

 

Thanks. I thought that you would have this model AutoProp.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 1:09 AM ahmet kipcak <ahmetkipcak@...> wrote:
Hi everbady,
I would like to share email came from Bruntos about older 1996 model propeller.

Safe sailing

Ahmet KIPCAK
SM247
Cesme / Izmir




İleti başlangıcı:

Kimden: David Sheppard <david@...>
Tarih: 1 Nisan 2019 17:58:47 GMT+3
Kime: ahmet kipcak <ahmetkipcak@...>
Konu: Ynt:⁨ Greasing ⁩

Dear Ahmet,

You have an original Autoprop open ball bearing type from about 1995/97. Thease models went out of production shortly after this date and where replaced with the sealed bearing version. Your propeller therefore does not require greasing, see attached.  



Kind Regards      
David Sheppard
   T: +44 (0) 1255 420005             M: +44 (0) 7808 571 359



Brunton's Propellers Ltd | Oakwood Business Park | Stephenson Road | Clacton-on-Sea | Essex | CO15 4TL | UK


Re: Dessalator shuts down for no apparent reason - CAT Pump Modification for less than 160 liters

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Paul,

When I took apart my watermaker last week I saw no way to tighten the belts. So over tightening the belts seems unlikely unless you have replace them with shorter ones.
It seems like your pump is taking more power than expected to rotate. Did something change about the pump?
I did replace the oil in mine (using standard 15W40 motor oil as prescribed). There is a small indicator that tells you about the oil level.
Did you take any of the single direction pulleys off? Did you put them back on in the correct way?
Also you may have introduced a blockage in the path after the pump. Does it run smoothly when you take off the HP hose from the mebranes?

Just some suggestions to help determine what is wrong…

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna
A54-121


Re: Copper earthing/bonding strap broken in bilge on Amel 54

JOHN HAYES
 

No sweat managed with some difficulty to find the inside nuts which hold the earth plate on. The old one munted but found a replacement which should arrive in 24 hours

 

On the copper bar I thought the connection might be better to drill and tap a small hole it the top of the nut and screw the bar onto it rather than putting under the keel boat nut. . Access looks a bit easier without an engine. Putting a D250 volvo in which is identical to the prima but has the advantage of a gear not a cam driven water. Pump and a timing chain not a rubber band……..and it comes with a 5 year warranty.

 

Best

 

John SN 41

 

From: John Hayes <johnhayes862@...>
Date: Wednesday, 3 April 2019 at 12:50 PM
To: <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Copper earthing/bonding strap broken in bilge on Amel 54

 

Brilliant Denise Bill and others

 

NGA Waka is on the slip so brought copper bar and following your contributions 

 

Any one replaced the HF radio earth sitting under the hills bit abaft of the mizzenmast on a Santorin?  Ours is pretty pitted and could usefully be replaced

 

Any thoughts gratefully received 

 

Best John Hayes hull 41

 


On 3/04/2019, at 4:46 AM, Denise McGovern <Mcgovern.denise@...> wrote:

Luckily there is a YouTube video from Mother Ship Adrift on exactly this: https://youtu.be/NYPxUt55tjk 

 

Denise

s/v CARA

Chesapeake Bay


Bruntons older than1996 maintance manuel

ahmet kipcak
 

Hi everbady,
I would like to share email came from Bruntos about older 1996 model propeller.

Safe sailing

Ahmet KIPCAK
SM247
Cesme / Izmir




İleti başlangıcı:

Kimden: David Sheppard <david@...>
Tarih: 1 Nisan 2019 17:58:47 GMT+3
Kime: ahmet kipcak <ahmetkipcak@...>
Konu: Ynt:⁨ Greasing ⁩

Dear Ahmet,

You have an original Autoprop open ball bearing type from about 1995/97. Thease models went out of production shortly after this date and where replaced with the sealed bearing version. Your propeller therefore does not require greasing, see attached.  



Kind Regards      
David Sheppard
   T: +44 (0) 1255 420005             M: +44 (0) 7808 571 359



Brunton's Propellers Ltd | Oakwood Business Park | Stephenson Road | Clacton-on-Sea | Essex | CO15 4TL | UK


Re: Greasing autoprop

ahmet kipcak
 

Hello Olivier,

Thanks for info,as you said my one is previous model without greasing nipple. I got an maintance instruction from Bruntons which will be very helpfull for me.I will forward email came from Bruntons.


Best tehatds

Ahmet KİPCAK






Beaute Olivier via Groups.Io <atlanticyachtsurvey@...> şunları yazdı (1 Nis 2019 19:58):

Hello Ahmet,

I checked SM 246 and it had an AUTOPROP with open bearings, so, you probably have the same kind. Unlike the later models, which have sealed bearings with steel balls, your prop has stainless steel balls on open tracks. Although they don't really need it, you may grease these balls from the outside. This will prevent too much scaling on the balls.
If you feel the bearings make a grinding noise, then it's time to replace the balls and tracks, which you can order from Brunton's. The stainless steel balls don't stand wear as much as the steel ones (which rust, nobody's perfect, that's why they are sealed with grease nipples for renewing the grease).
No grease nipples on the first model of the Autoprop.

Good luck.

FYI (everybody) hull #259 has an Autoprop with sealed bearings, the change is around 250.

Olivier

On Monday, April 1, 2019, 4:25:19 PM GMT+2, ahmet kipcak <ahmetkipcak@...> wrote:


Dear all,
Thanks for your valuable feedback, As BilI said my one seems to be an old model, I will contact with Mr David from Bruntons.

Ahmet KİPCAK
SM247
Cesme/Izmir




Brent Cameron <brentcameron61@...> şunları yazdı (1 Nis 2019 16:38):

The new forum with its ability to easily embed pictures into your posts as Mark has done to answer Ahmet's excellent question is a vast improvement.  It makes it so much easier for everyone to understand the topic in context.  It's been said many times now but kudos to all of the moderators for making this happen - especially as seamlessly as they did! 
--
Brent Cameron

Future Super Maramu 2000 Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada