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Re: Outhaul shaft removal
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
On 05 MarHi, Hi Barry In Shelter Bay Marina Colon, Panama I was addressing this problem. I approached the yard asking for a man with a gas torch to heat it. Instead I got a big man with a big hammer and a puller. The result was a shattered housing. We were 36 hours from transiting the Canal. Fun. He then used the gas torch as I had asked and it slipped off. So in my opinion beware a big man with a big hammer. I advised everyone after this to regularly remove and lanacote this shaft and avoid this issue forever. If done regularly it slips out easily. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl ch 2019 at 10:35 seagasm <seagasm@...> wrote:
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Re: Prop shaft bearing
Rainer Huthmacher
Thanks again for all the feedback... Miles, I bought a normal car alternator and isolated the ground myself. It’s a small 30amp alternator which produces some charging at low revs. Then I put a 25 cm pulley to the shaft and a 5cm pulley on the alternator... All together the cost was less than 400.- €. Changing from a SM to a Sharki was not so easy. I don’t miss any living room space, but I do miss the storage space of the SM. Basically I carry the same equipment. I installed 600w of solar power and a Silent Wind aero generator ( which I don’t recommend, the regulator is a piece of crap) because I want to make my fresh water without any engine. I even installed a washing machine.... But I miss the SM still very much. Fair winds, Rainer
On 4. Mar 2019, at 03:33, smiles bernard via Groups.Io <smilesbernard@...> wrote:
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Re: Outhaul shaft removal
Thanks José, Bob & Eric, now understand how it is done, and will get the “tool” fabricated after I take the measures later this month. Have also ordered some anti-seize...
Kind regards, Guillaume s/v Carpathia III – SM2K #293
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Re: Additional solar location?
James Alton
Amel Santorin, Thanks, James SV Sueno Maramu #220
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Re: Outhaul shaft removal
Gary Silver
Barry & Robyn
If you experience any difficulty during re-assembly just ease the tension of the outhaul line. That line, if under a great deal of tension, can cock the Anderson Winch "cap" slightly causing a small misalignment with the gearbox slotted shaft. Usually the rubber grommets that isolate the gearbox from the boom bracket allow for enough movement to allow the well lubricated outhaul shaft to be inserted very easily without having to do this. Gary S. Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM 2000 #335 Puerto Del Rey Marina, Puerto Rico
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Re: Outhaul shaft removal
I would like to confirm that I believe that it is important to exert pressure only on the slotted shaft and shaft and not to apply pressure to the gearbox housing or, perhaps even more importantly, the aluminum bracket of the main boom to which the gearbox attaches. Both of those items are aluminum whereas the shaft and the slotted shaft are steel. When using any type of pusher/puller it is important that the pressure/counter-pressure be applied only to the steel parts involved and not to the seals, bearings, housings, or other parts lest those parts be damaged or distorted. For the same reason I recommend agains "hammering" with large hammers against the inner shaft as a method of removal.
I have found that with annual removal and re-greasing of the outhaul shaft, all that is required is either just pushing the shaft out by hand or at the max very light tapping with a hammer against the bolt that I thread into the threaded lower aspect of the shaft. In my opinion, re-greasing every 6 months is probably over doing it a bit (no harm but annual is adequate in my experience). All the best to all who own Amel boats. f Gary S. SIlver s/v Liahona Amel SM 2000 #335 Puerto Rico
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Re: US State taxes
Gregory Shea
John,
Just to add to Craig's comments, the Florida sales tax people are amazingly approachable and helpful. When I had businesses in Florida,
I dealt with them many times, both on the phone and in person. I could not believe that a government bureaucracy were so keen to help resolve your Sales Tax issues. But that wa a few years ago ....? I suggest you take Craig's advice.
Greg Shea Sharki 133
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Craig Briggs via Groups.Io <sangaris@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 8:28 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] US State taxes Hi John,
I just did a quick scan on SC's boat tax website and see what you point out, that they don't title/register USCG documented boa. I then looked at FL and it seems they may have changed their tax laws about 2011 and would, indeed, collect tax on your boat. So our situation of no sales tax, having bought the boat in FL in 1999, may no longer be the case, as Mark suggested. My suggestion would be to call the FL Sales Tax department in Tallahassee, try to get to the manager of the boat/yacht division and discuss it with him, which is what I did. Craig, SN68
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Re: US State taxes
Hi John,
I just did a quick scan on SC's boat tax website and see what you point out, that they don't title/register USCG documented boa. I then looked at FL and it seems they may have changed their tax laws about 2011 and would, indeed, collect tax on your boat. So our situation of no sales tax, having bought the boat in FL in 1999, may no longer be the case, as Mark suggested. My suggestion would be to call the FL Sales Tax department in Tallahassee, try to get to the manager of the boat/yacht division and discuss it with him, which is what I did. Craig, SN68
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Re: Outhaul shaft removal
Jose Venegas <josegvenegas@...>
I agree with Eric
This is pretty much like my tool but the hole in the top is square and large while in mine is circular and of the same size as the shaft. Actually, l should have made it slightly larger than the shaft and for that reason, I had to add a washer as a spacer between the two parts of the top unit.
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Re: US State taxes
Hi Mark,
The Fl tax department did not consider it a grey area and actually gave us a letter confirming we had no liability for Fl sales tax. And when we returned to the US (in Fl), again, there was no question that we had any sales tax liability whatsoever. They do not consider this "avoiding tax", which carries a, shall-we-say, shady connotation. In fact, it's just the opposite; they consider it being in full compliance with the FL tax laws. The end result was that we paid 0% sales tax on our Amel AND were in 100% compliance with all state tax laws - nothin' shady or grey or risky or dodgy or whatever. Craig
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Re: Outhaul shaft removal
rossirossix4
Hi Eric-
Well, there's the RIGHT WAY, the WRONG WAY, and the AMEL WAY! Regarding the Amel way, according to Albon, plan B was to remove the boom, bring it into the shop and use their press. If the press placed pressure directly on the slotted disc while pressing the shaft, pressure on the case could be avoided. It is possible that our habit of frequently spraying just a bit of CorrosionX (regular as well as CorrosionXHD) on the shaft and rinsing the gearbox area with fresh water every time we washed off the boat may have helped--again, removal with the tool was effortless. Albon suggested Tef-Gel where the metal of the gear box meets the shaft upon reassembly. Bob and Suzanne, KAIMI
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Re: Turbo heat shield for Perkins M80T
JEFFREY KRAUS
Those heat shields on the Volvo cost a fortune. The shield for the d3 110 is $500 we run a dry exhaust on big diesels we have heat wrap insulation, with a fibercloth to secure it. I did my d3 110 with leftover scraps from my muffler replacement. You could get what you need to wrap the turbo for $25, and have better insulation then their overpriced wrap, and it will look good to if you cut the pieces and fit them well Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.
-------- Original message -------- From: John Clark <john.biohead@...> Date: 3/4/19 5:56 PM (GMT-04:00) To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Turbo heat shield for Perkins M80T insulation. It is held on with wire and clips. I would replace if oil soaked. I cannot imagine it costs much. You could make one by using fire retardant high temp fabric surrounding fiberglass insulation. John SV Annie SM37 Brunswick. GA On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 1:15 PM Dan Wilcox via Groups.Io <dwilcox123= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: > Has anyone replaced the turbo heat shield on a Perkins M80T? I think it's > supposed to be white and cloth like. Mine is oil soaked and embedded with > rust. > > Thanks, Dan > Feierabend #86 > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group.
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Re: Outhaul shaft removal
eric freedman
That looks like it puts a lot of pressure in the gearbox casting. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of rossirossix4
For some reason the most informative pics did not post.....(again, this is what Albon and Francois cooked up at the Amel Caraibes Center in Martinique) here they are:
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Re: crossing BVI to Florida.
Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
Wolfgang,
We can not give you useful information about Cuba, or the Dominican Republic, but we have spent a lot of time in the Bahamas over the last three years and greatly enjoyed it. People will talk about how you need a shallow draft to explore the Bahamas, but a two meter draft is not too deep to enjoy the country. You can can find our route, and comments about where we have been on our blog at http://fetchinketch.net Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Mayaguana, Bahamas
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Re: Outhaul shaft removal
rossirossix4
For some reason the most informative pics did not post.....(again, this is what Albon and Francois cooked up at the Amel Caraibes Center in Martinique) here they are:
Bob and Suzanne, KAIMI SM 429
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Re: Outhaul shaft removal
eric freedman
It Should just slide in. Fair Winds Eric SM 376 KImberlite
On Mon, Mar 04, 2019 at 04:35 PM, seagasm wrote:
OK, so how difficult to re-assemble it? do you have to use such force?
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Re: US State taxes
John Clark
Craig, I wonder how that would work for a vessel purchased overseas, USCG documented but never registered in a State. South Carolina does not register USCG documented vessels. Annie SM 37 is documented with Charleston SC as home port, my home and state of residence. She has however only passed thru SC during my ownership. At this writing she is berthed in Georgia where I am working but does not have to stay. I would be curious how FL would treat her for sales tax.
On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 9:23 AM Craig Briggs via Groups.Io <sangaris=aol.com@groups.io> wrote: Mark,
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Re: Turbo heat shield for Perkins M80T
John Clark
I have not replaced mine but yes it is cloth-like material covering insulation. It is held on with wire and clips. I would replace if oil soaked. I cannot imagine it costs much. You could make one by using fire retardant high temp fabric surrounding fiberglass insulation. John SV Annie SM37 Brunswick. GA
On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 1:15 PM Dan Wilcox via Groups.Io <dwilcox123=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Has anyone replaced the turbo heat shield on a Perkins M80T? I think it's supposed to be white and cloth like. Mine is oil soaked and embedded with rust.
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Re: Outhaul shaft removal
I don't know anyone who had and difficulty with reassembly. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 3:35 PM seagasm <seagasm@...> wrote: OK, so how difficult to re-assemble it? do you have to use such force?
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Re: Outhaul shaft removal
OK, so how difficult to re-assemble it? do you have to use such force?
Kind Regards Barry & Robyn Tradewinds III SM#171
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