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Re: Engine room lining on Amel 54

Theo s/v Paloma
 
Edited

Is the A54 lining same as the one in the picture below?

If yes, Amel is still using the same lining on the A50... In which case, I would like to find a way to slow down or prevent deterioration. Also, they probably used the same on the A55 and A64.

s/v Paloma
2019 A50, #18


Re: New Member - Amel Mango Hull #63-Is there an electronic Owners Manual in existence

Ian Bone
 

Thanks sincerely...much appreciated.
Ian

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019, 10:45 PM Ian Bone via Groups.Io <auscaptain=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hello all,
I've recently purchased Hull #63 Mango. 
I'm in the process of reviewing documentation and wondered if there was an electronic Owners Manual for the Amel Mango available.

Ian


Re: K1 & K2 Location - Amel 54

Jamie Wendell
 

Thanks Olivier, I see that on the original schematics. I never had the inverter or the transformer, but I do see what you are saying. I installed a 4kVA inverter and switch it through a manual switch. That allows me to have 50hz power to the wall plugs and microwave when I am using US shore power (60hz) for the battery chargers and the AC units. I also installed an isolation transformer, which does the same function as the plug you are referencing through a dedicated receptacle on the transom, and it also isolates the ground to prevent galvanic corrosion from faulty shore power supplies.
Jamie


Re: K1 & K2 Location - Amel 54

Faial Livingston
 

Thank you all for the very quick answer! 

@Bill: Yes I did look at the drawings and have made pictures of these. Which would you like? From the pictures you have uploaded ours is rather different, have uploaded to the link you supplied.

@Olivier: Ok that is the one then! I have found it but did not know it was it, attached is the image of what we have and there is nothing connected to it. Do not know when and which electrician has circumvented it. The original inverter has been replaced with a Victron unit. 

@Jamie: We have the converter too! As seen on the image.

Next actions: Will have a look in the coming days and see if the GE has too been rewired to somewhere else. 


Re: K1 & K2 Location - Amel 54

Beaute Olivier
 

Hi Jamie,

in the original AMEL option for a 2.5kVA inverter, K2 is allowing the inverter to feed the 230V circuits only if generator is OFF and shore power cord is disconnected.

In case a 120V/230V step up transformer is installed, its 230V is not delivered through an automatic relay but through a big plug located at top front bulkhead of the engine room. You change the plug (feeding K1) from "230V quai" outlet to "230V transformer" outlet.

Olivier


On Sunday, March 17, 2019, 4:58:37 PM GMT+1, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


I uploaded 2 photos that will help you at: https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/album?id=87146
--
 
Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: K1 & K2 Location - Amel 54

 

I uploaded 2 photos that will help you at: https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/album?id=87146
--
 
Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: K1 & K2 Location - Amel 54

Jamie Wendell
 

Faial, you probably have only the K1 switch. It is located in a white box mounted on the wall behind the generator. On my 54, K1 automatically switches between shore power and generator feed. K2 is installed if you have a 120V transformer for use in the US.
Hope that helps.
Jamie
Phantom A54


Re: K1 & K2 Location - Amel 54

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Faial,

these automatic relays are located in a grey box, at aft top portside of the engine room, behind the 230V blower cooling the genset. The box is labeled "QUAI/GE/CONVERTISSEUR"
If you don't have the option of a 2.5kVA inverter feeding the 230V outlets network, then there is only one relay, and the box is labeled "QUAI/GE"

Good luck in your search.

Olivier

On Sunday, March 17, 2019, 3:57:55 PM GMT+1, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Did you look at electrical drawings of the 54 in APPENDIX 4 of your manual. I don't have a copy of this...do you?

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:29 AM Faial Livingston <flivingston@...> wrote:
Hello,

I've been trying to find where K1 & K2 are located on the Amel 54.

Unfortunately I am unable to do the check by finding the sound they make when switching off shore power and neither the second option with the Generator.

Could someone please share where exactly these automatic switches are in the Engine Room!

Best regards,
Faial Livingston
Cataya - 046 - Amel 54


Re: Olivier goes to TRINIDAD

 

Olivier,

I have a client in Trinidad who really needs to meet with you and his SM. I will put him in touch with you.
--
 
Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: K1 & K2 Location - Amel 54

 

Did you look at electrical drawings of the 54 in APPENDIX 4 of your manual. I don't have a copy of this...do you?

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:29 AM Faial Livingston <flivingston@...> wrote:
Hello,

I've been trying to find where K1 & K2 are located on the Amel 54.

Unfortunately I am unable to do the check by finding the sound they make when switching off shore power and neither the second option with the Generator.

Could someone please share where exactly these automatic switches are in the Engine Room!

Best regards,
Faial Livingston
Cataya - 046 - Amel 54


Re: New Member - Amel Mango Hull #63-Is there an electronic Owners Manual in existence

 

I uploaded the Mango Manual that Rob Dillmann attached to the files section

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:06 AM Rob Dillmann <rob.dillmann@...> wrote:
Dear Ian,

We own an Amel Mango (nr 43) since the end of 2017, which we are fitting out in the south of France.
Attached you will find the manual I have found.

Regards,

Rob Dillmann
Amel Mango 'Westwind'



Op zo 17 mrt. 2019 om 13:45 schreef Ian Bone <auscaptain@...>:

Hello all,
I've recently purchased Hull #63 Mango. 
I'm in the process of reviewing documentation and wondered if there was an electronic Owners Manual for the Amel Mango available.

Ian


K1 & K2 Location - Amel 54

Faial Livingston
 

Hello,

I've been trying to find where K1 & K2 are located on the Amel 54.

Unfortunately I am unable to do the check by finding the sound they make when switching off shore power and neither the second option with the Generator.

Could someone please share where exactly these automatic switches are in the Engine Room!

Best regards,
Faial Livingston
Cataya - 046 - Amel 54


Re: New Member - Amel Mango Hull #63-Is there an electronic Owners Manual in existence

rob dillmann
 

Dear Ian,

We own an Amel Mango (nr 43) since the end of 2017, which we are fitting out in the south of France.
Attached you will find the manual I have found.

Regards,

Rob Dillmann
Amel Mango 'Westwind'



Op zo 17 mrt. 2019 om 13:45 schreef Ian Bone <auscaptain@...>:

Hello all,
I've recently purchased Hull #63 Mango. 
I'm in the process of reviewing documentation and wondered if there was an electronic Owners Manual for the Amel Mango available.

Ian


New Member - Amel Mango Hull #63-Is there an electronic Owners Manual in existence

Ian Bone
 

Hello all,
I've recently purchased Hull #63 Mango. 
I'm in the process of reviewing documentation and wondered if there was an electronic Owners Manual for the Amel Mango available.

Ian


Olivier goes to TRINIDAD

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Everybody,

I will be in Trinidad on second week of April.
If your AMEL is berthed there and you need some advice, I will be glad to help.

You may contact me on my yahoo address or at olivierbeaute at gmail dot com

Have a nice sunday.

Olivier


Re: Bahamas airports

Ian Townsend
 

H Pat, we have spent quite a bit of time in the Bahamas over the last four years. Any help or info we can get or you, feel free to email us at smlocaloca@....

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Exumas, Bahamas

On Mar 16, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32@...> wrote:

We may return north thru the Bahamas ,I have never sailed there before and have a question. We will have crew that will need to fly home, are there a few islands in the Exumas where there is an airport to fly from over to Fla. to make a connection home? 
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
Nevis/St.Kitts


Re: Anode wear

Scott SV Tengah
 

Have you checked for continuity between the two anodes? I had a similar problem and in my case, it was easily solved: The bolt holding on the starboard rudder anode was too short, preventing a good connection. I replaced it with a slightly longer one and now both anodes wear evenly. The rudder, as you probably know, is hollow, so you don't have to be precise. Can't recall the bolt length but I literally just took the old one and went to a chandlery and got the next longest one available.

Scott
Tengah A54 #69


Re: Engine room lining on Amel 54

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

We have the same problem, black dandruff coming off everywhere.  I believe the idea was to provide a water and oil resistant surface in the equipment space.  Good idea by Amel, poorly executed.  To that end I have used the Flex Seal spray on product, it seems to work well so far.  Like others I have had to remove the duct tape applied over the original black coating by the prior owner.  I don’t understand why anyone would think applying tape over a surface that is falling off would accomplish anything.  Oh well……

 

Mark Mueller

Brass Ring  A54


Easy way to access the Amel Yacht Owners Group has been provided and paid for by longtime member.

 

All,

Bob Rossi, longtime member of this group and owner of Super Maramu "KAIMI" has provided us with a domain name and easy to remember and use URL. From now on, you can use the URL of AmelYachtOwnersGroup.com to get to our group. Bob did the work and paid the costs.

Thanks, Bob, we appreciate it.
--
 
Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: Anode wear

Gary Silver
 
Edited

Hi Paul, Bill has seen a lot more Amel's than I have, but for what it is worth, on my SM 53 the anodes always seem to erode equally.  Knowing that the anodes are part of an electrical circuit I am careful to always clean the bolts, and the installed anode contact areas and assure adequate torque of the bolts (not overkill so as to strip things but snug).  As long as you are seeing some anode erosion then you are probably safe but at your next haul out it would be worth checking the continuity (resistance) between each anode bolt (i.e. side to side) and between each bolt individually relative to the cluster of bonding wires at the bilge bonding strap.  

Basically I would continue to monitor this and diagnose further during the next haul out. 

Best, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona 
Amel SM 2000 #335