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Re: Cook top dimensions

Barry Connor
 

Hi Bill and All,

When we were looking at electric ovens with induction cooktops the only 2 basic choices were the Ocean Chef 3 from Gn Espace UK and the Horizon 3 from Marine Cookers "Techimpex.tv".
The retail price we found initially was about £4,000 for each from different Marine Suppliers in UK.
We actually spoke to the Techimpex representative in Italy and he gave us a special price of 1,850 euro without tax.

What the main advantage was between the 2 units was that the Horizon 3 had bigger inside width and we could still use the baking trays from our Eno 4 burner gas oven and all S/S pans still fitted on the cook top. The Ocean Chef oven was a smaller width inside and we would have had to buy smaller baking pans. The Horizon 3 as well as the Ocean Chef 3 overall oven is smaller than the old Eno but we have roasted 2 chickens with vegetables. It heats up much faster (200deg in 10min) and holds even temperature constant when set.

We had a lot of back and forth between the 2 companies to get all the exact specifications and measurements. The Ocean Chef rep was disappointed when we pointed out his inside oven measurements were less than the Horizon 3 and that we would need to buy new baking pans. We didn't then try to negotiate any special price with him so I can't say that he would have matched the Horizon 3 price.

As we took all the LPGas out we also bought the Techimpex electric grill which fits perfectly inside our Kumma LPGas s/s frame.
Was fun fitting this, took a few tests to get it inside and are still doing the High Temp Silicone seal. Had to put in a cooling fan to keep the electric switches cool. See Photos. BBQ with lid off.

Bill, I think if you contacted the Techimpex representative "Frederico" that you could get a very good deal for the group. He was relentless in keeping in touch and answering email and queries immediately. 

Very Best

Barry and Penny
"SV Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54.  #17
Sainte Anne anchorage Martnique



On Monday, May 24, 2021, 8:08:06 AM EDT, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Jeremy,

I negotiated an Amel Owners Yacht School discount for my clients. It is significant. Every one of my clients that have bought from Gn Espace seems to really like the product. I actually think that they are the best and since ENO was acquired, I am not sure that there is any other choice at any price that provides you with reasonable quality. Frankly, I am surprised that Amel has not moved to GN Espace. It is not only about electric/conductive solutions it is about quality and engineering. You should also check out how the stove and the containers that GN Espace have been engineered.

Posting it here may be viewed as an advertisement for Amel Owners Yacht School. Sometimes I find myself in this "slippery situation." But follow this link: https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/gn-espace.html

Let me know if you have any questions. I know the principles of GN Espace and can probably get you any information you need.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:49 AM Jérémy Lajotte, <jeremy@...> wrote:

Who would be interested in a group buy for the OceanChef3 ?

For owners who already installed it : how much was it ? GN website only mentions a price starting at ~£2000...

Thanks,

Jérémy
SM#121
Le 24/05/2021 à 00:45, Nicolas Klene via groups.io a écrit :
Perfect ! 
Thanks a lot Denise.
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: Where best to locate Raymarine Evolution Autopilot EV-1 Sensor Core on Santorin - What Linear Drive is this...type 2 Long? or Type 2 short

Eric Meury
 

Antonio

We have a santorin as well.  1993 ...  What model of linear drive is this?  Thanks for you help.


Re: Companionway hatch removal

 

I agree that there should be an easy way to do this, and I found a woodshop owned by a New Zealander in Antigua who repairs this door without removing it. Chris Waelen in Jolly Harbour Boatyard, Jolly Harbour, Antigua. Chris works wonders with anything wood. I looked him up because he replaced the veneer on the companionway door of an Amel 54 with a teak veneer. Here is a photo, and here is a link for contact and more information: 
https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/anything-wood.html. Chris uses a 3M self-adhesive veneer and has choices of several different kinds of wood, including cherry.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:57 AM william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:
I've heard much discussion about renewing the vertical  companionway hatch.  The veneer on the hatch takes a beating from sun and rain. I've seen several boats that had their doors sanded and new veneer applied. The new veneer surface is less than 1/32nd thick and cannot be sanded.  It is an easy process.  A one day DIY project and shouldn't cost more than $100.00 US. (Woodworkers are charging much more)

A better solution - I  cut the door horizontally, in the middle,  reattached the pieces with a piano  hinge, added a gasket between the two halves, replaced the sweep and viola! I can now remove the hatch in less than 5 minutes. (See the results on the attached photos.) Cost was about $100.00 US including the hinge, sweep and varnish.   I have a full set of pictures of the process if anyone is interested
Bill Reynolds
Cloud Street SM2K 331


Re: Cook top dimensions

 

Jeremy,

I negotiated an Amel Owners Yacht School discount for my clients. It is significant. Every one of my clients that have bought from Gn Espace seems to really like the product. I actually think that they are the best and since ENO was acquired, I am not sure that there is any other choice at any price that provides you with reasonable quality. Frankly, I am surprised that Amel has not moved to GN Espace. It is not only about electric/conductive solutions it is about quality and engineering. You should also check out how the stove and the containers that GN Espace have been engineered.

Posting it here may be viewed as an advertisement for Amel Owners Yacht School. Sometimes I find myself in this "slippery situation." But follow this link: https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/gn-espace.html

Let me know if you have any questions. I know the principles of GN Espace and can probably get you any information you need.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:49 AM Jérémy Lajotte, <jeremy@...> wrote:

Who would be interested in a group buy for the OceanChef3 ?

For owners who already installed it : how much was it ? GN website only mentions a price starting at ~£2000...

Thanks,

Jérémy
SM#121
Le 24/05/2021 à 00:45, Nicolas Klene via groups.io a écrit :
Perfect ! 
Thanks a lot Denise.
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: Cook top dimensions

Vladan SV PAME
 

Jeremy,

If you are referring to induction OceanChef3 I'm interested.

Here is quote I got 3 days ago: The cost of our OceanChef 3 zone gimbaled Induction model (with a glass door) is: £3995.83 excluding VAT and the current lead time on this model is 3- 4 weeks from order confirmation payment

Shipment is extra cost.

I asked confirmation is quoted price is before or after Yacht School Clients discount but no answer yet.

Best Regards, 
--
Vladan

A54 #157 PAME


Companionway hatch removal

william reynolds
 

I've heard much discussion about renewing the vertical  companionway hatch.  The veneer on the hatch takes a beating from sun and rain. I've seen several boats that had their doors sanded and new veneer applied. The new veneer surface is less than 1/32nd thick and cannot be sanded.  It is an easy process.  A one day DIY project and shouldn't cost more than $100.00 US. (Woodworkers are charging much more)

A better solution - I  cut the door horizontally, in the middle,  reattached the pieces with a piano  hinge, added a gasket between the two halves, replaced the sweep and viola! I can now remove the hatch in less than 5 minutes. (See the results on the attached photos.) Cost was about $100.00 US including the hinge, sweep and varnish.   I have a full set of pictures of the process if anyone is interested
Bill Reynolds
Cloud Street SM2K 331


Re: Cook top dimensions

Jérémy Lajotte,
 

Who would be interested in a group buy for the OceanChef3 ?

For owners who already installed it : how much was it ? GN website only mentions a price starting at ~£2000...

Thanks,

Jérémy
SM#121
Le 24/05/2021 à 00:45, Nicolas Klene via groups.io a écrit :

Perfect ! 
Thanks a lot Denise.
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: Cook top dimensions

Nicolas Klene
 

Perfect ! 
Thanks a lot Denise.
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: Cook top dimensions

Nicolas Klene
 

Lovely !
thanks a lot Denise
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: Cook top dimensions

Denise McGovern
 

Hi Nicolas,

Mark is busy wrapping up another project so I am jumping back in.  If you mean the SS plate with 3 screws in this photo, it is included with your oven from GN Espace.

Denise McGovern
S/V CARA SM#400
Chesapeake Bay 


Re: Simpson Davits Maintenance

Scott SV Tengah
 

Personally, I think double braided dyneema (with polyester core) in this application is a mistake.

4mm Single braid (uncovered) dyneema has almost TWICE the strength as 4mm double braid (dyneema core with polyester cover). Further, with double-core, I am unable to reliably form an eye splice with a tucked cover. If I was concerned about chafe, I would rather have dyneema exposed than a polyester cover.  

Also, I don't think you should rely on the lifting lines to hold your dinghy. I only use it to lift and then use ratchet straps to secure the dinghy.

On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 1:34 PM Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:
Dear Thomas, dear Scott,
 
thx a lot for your appreciated responses.
I will do it the same way, but (first) trying Dyneema with a polyester cover to have a better protection for the core.
 
Best regards
Stefan
A54 #119 Lady Charlyette, currently Azores, Santa Maria


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Cook top dimensions

Nicolas Klene
 

Hello Mark

May I ask if he ss plate surrounding the gimble U holes for the rodes are the old ones or you made them yourself ?
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: mounting 12" chart plotter

 

Herman,

That area behind the B&G analog devices or chain counter is accessible by opening the sliding panel in the ceiling above the galley sink. Inside that panel, you will see 2 or 3 conduits that lead to the Nav Station. Amel left a pull-string inside the conduit and it is there unless someone has removed it.

You can use a cable gland, or there is another solution for the cable which I used. 
My solution: When not in use my cockpit monitor laid face down at the Nav Station with the cable coiled on top. When in use, we brought the monitor and cable through the companionway hatch. No holes to drill. I initially did it this way because I was not certain of the final location of the monitor. Since I also resist drilling holes of any kind, and because this worked so well, it became the permanent solution for me. If I were you, I would try my solution at least temporarily.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 1:44 PM Herman Goverse <h.goverse@...> wrote:

This is how and where we plan to mount the plotter, on the wooden latch. 


I’m wondering if the cable gland could be mounted to the starboard side of the chain counter. Does the void behind the instrument panel extend that far to allow the cables to exit there? I would rather have the scanstrut gland in the vertical plane to avoid water ingress. 

Herman
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SY-Kolibri - SM #174


Re: mounting 12" chart plotter

Herman Goverse
 

This is how and where we plan to mount the plotter, on the wooden latch. 


I’m wondering if the cable gland could be mounted to the starboard side of the chain counter. Does the void behind the instrument panel extend that far to allow the cables to exit there? I would rather have the scanstrut gland in the vertical plane to avoid water ingress. 

Herman
--
SY-Kolibri - SM #174


Re: Silicone BT seals

william reynolds
 

Hi 
Have you still got any of the BT seals you bought that wee designed by Jose?
If so, I'd like 2 if you still them. 
Bill Reynolds
Cloud Street SM2K 331
Sain Martin


Re: Simpson Davits Maintenance

Stefan Schaufert
 

Dear Thomas, dear Scott,
 
thx a lot for your appreciated responses.
I will do it the same way, but (first) trying Dyneema with a polyester cover to have a better protection for the core.
 
Best regards
Stefan
A54 #119 Lady Charlyette, currently Azores, Santa Maria


Re: Display VDS 215 MDS - nav table A54

Stefan Schaufert
 

Dear Arno,

thx a lot for your appreciated help.
I will try it, but study my display at first extensively. It seems to have slightly different (smaller) dimensions.
I hope the „old“ one works a few more month/ that long.

Best regards
Stefan
A54 #119 Lady Charlyette, currently Azores, Santa Maria


Re: C- Drive oil

 

8+ Liters in the C-Drive. Buy 9 because you need 0.3 liters for the bow thruster. the following is a part of the original Amel maintenance schedule. The red-colored note and the photo of a container of 80/90 oil I added.

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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 9:21 AM Arnold Mente via groups.io <Arnold.mente=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Pat, on the red sign you can read 8 Liters

Am 23.05.2021 um 16:12 schrieb Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32@...>:

Arnold, I did not remember it taking that much oil for the C-drive or my engine . I believe my engine only takes five qts., maybe my memory is failing,why not everything else is.
Thanks,
Pat
SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: Arnold Mente via groups.io <Arnold.mente@...>
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, May 23, 2021 10:08 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] C- Drive oil

Hi Pat,

is is the same as for the engine 10-40 8 Liter.


Best

Arnold
SY Zephyr
SM 203

Am 23.05.2021 um 16:00 schrieb Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32@...>:

Its been awhile and I can't remember what oil is now recommended for the C-drive 10-40 or 90 ,also can't remember how many qts.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans

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Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203
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Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203


Re: Simpson Davits Maintenance

Scott SV Tengah
 

Stefan,

I refused to pay any more money to Simpson so I just changed the wires without any modifications to the davits themselves. No problems so far and I wish I did it far earlier. 

When I had them changed, I didn't know how to splice a metal eye into uncovered dyneema and well, I had other things to get done, so I just paid someone to buy and make the lines for me. That said, it's really not that hard to splice an eye on uncovered dyneema. The end that attaches inside the davit has a regular spliced eye and the other end, the other end has a metal thimble to prevent chafe and strengthen the eye. I believe I used 5 meter lines. Very useful when I'm on the hard and wanted to raise big items up. :)

About the weights, I left the big weight on starboard side and the port side, I put a much smaller weight. Agree with Thomas that the big weight is another thing to worry about as it has hit me on the head once or twice. :) But I do think a smaller weight is useful as it helps when you have the lines fully wound up (eg- when you store dinghy on deck for passage) and then need to lower them. Not sure the weight of the lines alone will allow for easy lowering and winding onto the spool.

But yes, get rid of the heavy weight.

On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 4:33 AM Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:
Dear Scott,

I also intend to change the wires to dyneema.
After checking the gearbox I can not see why it is not possible without this expensive Simpson „dyneema“ set.
What do you needed the 100 Euros for?
4mm Dyneema is not that expensive :-)
Did you use dyneema with a polyester cover or without protection?
Did you do any changings on the gearbox/ motor?

Best regards
Stefan
A54 #119 Lady Charlyette, currently Azores, Santa Maria


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: C- Drive oil

Arnold Mente
 

Pat, on the red sign you can read 8 Liters

Am 23.05.2021 um 16:12 schrieb Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32@...>:

Arnold, I did not remember it taking that much oil for the C-drive or my engine . I believe my engine only takes five qts., maybe my memory is failing,why not everything else is.
Thanks,
Pat
SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: Arnold Mente via groups.io <Arnold.mente@...>
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, May 23, 2021 10:08 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] C- Drive oil

Hi Pat,

is is the same as for the engine 10-40 8 Liter.


Best

Arnold
SY Zephyr
SM 203

Am 23.05.2021 um 16:00 schrieb Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32@...>:

Its been awhile and I can't remember what oil is now recommended for the C-drive 10-40 or 90 ,also can't remember how many qts.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans

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--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203
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--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203

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