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Re: AMEL 54 main furler
Teun, Furling solenoid is behind the Velcro'd panel just inside the forward watertight door near the ceiling, or behind the Velcro'd panel in the forward port side berth. I don't think this is the problem, but Willie should check it and the helm mounted toggle switch. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Wed, May 1, 2019, 10:17 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
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Re: AMEL 54 main furler
Hi Bill,
Correct – furling motor/gearbox.
Did loosen as you described below; can furl & unfurl manually - no sail jam.
Did NOT rap the gearbox; it is night now; will do tomorrow. Willie is coming on board 2nd thing tomorrow morning; was holiday here today.
Brushes motor – didn’t think about those. l did study your AMEL bible but missed that.
Where is the solenoid – I tried to find in the manual as well as your “A B”. As this is similar problem I had 2 weeks ago with the windlass (not down but luckily did go up) which was the solenoid I have been trying to locate.
Thanks for the help.
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 2009 NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA May 1, 2019 20:15:11
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 19:32 To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler
First check the simple things:
I assume you are having an issue with the furling motor/gearbox and not the outhaul motor/gearbox.
Loosen the 4 bolts on the furling motor/gearbox, lower the unit enough to disengage the main foil fr the motor/gearbox, then test the manual furler with a winch handle. If it works, you've eliminated a sail jam. Next try the furler motor while disconnected. Take a rubber mallet a rap the gearbox sharply. If either of these work, call Willie and tell him you probably need new brushes in the motor. You may have spares... check my Amel Book for changing brushes.
It is possible that the large solenoid has failed, but I have yet to actually see this happen.
Get back to me. Best,
On Wed, May 1, 2019, 5:51 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
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Re: AMEL 54 main furler
First check the simple things: I assume you are having an issue with the furling motor/gearbox and not the outhaul motor/gearbox. Loosen the 4 bolts on the furling motor/gearbox, lower the unit enough to disengage the main foil fr the motor/gearbox, then test the manual furler with a winch handle. If it works, you've eliminated a sail jam. Next try the furler motor while disconnected. Take a rubber mallet a rap the gearbox sharply. If either of these work, call Willie and tell him you probably need new brushes in the motor. You may have spares... check my Amel Book for changing brushes. It is possible that the large solenoid has failed, but I have yet to actually see this happen. Get back to me. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Wed, May 1, 2019, 5:51 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote: Was on my way to TANNA VANUATU and can NOT unfurl the main sail. It will furl but NOT unfurl.
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Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k
Joerg Esdorn
I have had very good experiences with my Superwind half way up the mizzen mast. It substantially contributes to balancing the power needs on Kincsem on most days without anyone noticing it is there. My 400 W solar usually contributes more here in the Med, and when offshore, my Watt & Sea blows them both away, but in my view it’s all about alternative sources. Wind is great at anchor particularly in the Aegean and sailing on all courses other than a broad reach or downwind.
Joerg Esdorn A55 #53 Kincsem
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AMEL 54 main furler
Was on my way to TANNA VANUATU and can NOT unfurl the main sail. It will furl but NOT unfurl.
The switch in the cockpit is good. Any suggestions? Have returned to NOUMEA as I need to have this working before crossing to VANUATU Thanks. Teun BAAS AMELIT A54 2009 NOUMEA, NEW CALEDONIA
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Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k
David Vogel
Greetings all,
I have a top-of-mizzen Rutland 1200, installed 2018, cost to purchase-and-install ~$2,200-. The running count for the wind-gen since it was last reset 920 hours ago Arriving on-anchor, La Playita, Panama), is 547Ah contributed to battery charge; =~ 0.6Ah per hour, =~ 15W average per.hour contribution. Since last reset, we have been in a typical steady wind, but not-so-windy location. Previously, when in windy locations (meaning, wind in general blowing always 18 knots, but often 20-30), we were seeing easily double, sometimes triple this, on-average.
These overall production figures are somewhat BELOW what would otherwise be seen in a stand-alone wind-gen set-up (without solar), because at mid-day +/-2.5H when your solar cells pumping it in, or when the batteries are sensed as fully charged, the wind-gen switches off.
Also, when you are on genset (or motoring), sometimes the wind-gen senses this and shuts down also.
But when the wind-turbine is spinning, the output is within 5% of the manufacturers curve (case: windy at night, no solar in competition, for example).
Overall, with the solar and wind-gen, my need to run the genset whilst on anchor is reduced to about 50% of what is was before (no solar or wind). On longer offshore passages, we have only a few days here and there, so not really able to say. So I am still planning fuel burn for offshore work on the pre-wind/solar basis of 2 x 1.5 hour genset runs per day. I am happy with ‘free’ power from the shaft gen – enough to cover the NAV Station – when STW >7 knots. I switch the shaft-gen off if I really need to squeeze for speed, as I estimate that the shaft-gen pulls the STW down by between 0.5 and 1.0 knot. For really long-distance work (say, >3,000nm), that 1knot pull-down relates to an extra 2 days passage-time. There is always a trade-off.
I am glad to have the redundancy provided by solar and wind in combination, although this is only partial at best.
We are not at this time considering a second wind-gen. We are thinking to increase the solar to 800-1,200 watts. The panels themselves will pay for themselves over time, but the capital expense of the arch is harder to reconcile.
Cheers,
David SM#396, Perigee Pacific-bound
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Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k
JOHN HAYES
.......am sure your right Bill unless you live in the roaring 40’s and do most of your sailing in higher latitudes!!
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The Rutland wind mill having sailed from the Med to NZ lost its feathers in gusts of 45 to 55 knots off Kaikoura on the west coast of the South Island. It was replaced with a silent wind generator which, while expensive, has been excellent at maintaining power levels in the batteries and has a built in breaking system John Hayes NGA Waka sn41 Wellington
On 1/05/2019, at 9:34 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k
Kent,
I have to agree with Bill. We have a wind generator, it came with the boat when we purchased it and then broke. We replaced it with a clone but probably should have saved the money for something else that hasn’t broken yet.
If the wind is blowing 20-25 knots consistently it is worth it. But how often does this happen? At this wind speed it will put out about 5 amps per hour and help during the night when solar panels are sleeping. It is just enough that I do not have to run the genset in the morning to top off the batteries until the solar kicks in (we are running all three ref/frz).
You can do the math for the number of days you spend per year cruising, the number of days you will have ample wind and compare to the cost and wear on the genset running we you need the extra omph. My guess is you will find it is not feasible.
Right now we have winds of 5-10 knots and it is the same for the rest of this week. We are on the hook and the wind generator is totally useless.
If I had to do things over, I would add more solar and increase the size of the battery bank
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - San Blas Islands, Panama www.creampuff.us
From:
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Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
I would save your money on the wind. Best,
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 9:14 PM karkauai via Groups.Io
<karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io>
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Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k
I would save your money on the wind. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 9:14 PM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k
I had an 80A charger from the time I bought Kristy and it was plenty. I’ve added Solar since then and rarely run the charger for more than 45min per day. Still thinking about a wind generator at the top of the mizzen, but haven’t pulled the trigger on that yet.
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On Apr 29, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> wrote:
Kent, why did you choose the 80/24 vs. the 100/24? Ian & Margaret S/V Loca Lola II SM153 Exumas, Bahamas
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Re: Insurance updates.
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Well done. But wait to see the detail before you open the champagne. Danny SS 299 Ocean pearl
On 01 May 2019 at 03:13 "Alexandre Uster von Baar via Groups.Io" <uster@...> wrote:
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Re: Insurance updates.
eric freedman
Congratulations
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Fair Winds Eric
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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alexandre Uster von Baar via Groups.Io Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 11:13 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance updates. Back in December Helvetia (subscribed through DeLassee Insurance) made a better (still very unfair) offer, which my french lawyers pressed me to accept, but it came with a special clause or exemption that would completely exonerate Helvetia from anything now on… I was a bit stunned my lawyers did not warn me that this meant that “I” would be responsible for dealing with “the rest” of the stuff (for example the Simpson Bay Marina suing boat owners for damages to the dock). I said no and wrote one of them that I was questioning which interest they were defending… Mine? The insurance? or theirs? … and in the case of refuse by the insurance I will seek another lawyer to sue the insurance. There was a back and forth letters asking for the removal then modification of the clause, lots of delay from the insurance to reply, either the guy was on vacation for 3 weeks or the office was closed for the Holliday, etc. but, phrase differently, still the insurance kept some of the clause, lawyers suggest I would add a hand written note, which the insurance refused yesterday. So now I was heading to court. So yesterday I wrote the lawyers that, since the insurance said NO, I was going to hire a different lawyer for the “full amount” (not the unfair offer), plus everything that was always denied even thought written in the contrat such as expertise fee, lawyers fee, etc. Then today guess what? While it usually take 30 days for the insurance to reply to any letter, my lawyer email me “the insurance has cracked” with a document to signed without the exemption… Sincerely, Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 2/28/19, Alexandre Uster von Baar via Groups.Io <uster=rocketmail.com@groups.io> wrote: Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance updates. To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Date: Thursday, February 28, 2019, 12:56 PM Over 2 months later, and despite 2 more letters from my lawyers to ask the settlement clauses to be notified still nothing. So today I called Helvetia and said these clauses were not acceptable, that they should know by now that I will not let go, that personally I wanted to go to trial, but my lawyers want to solve the issue peacefully. The person said he will contact the legal department to see about changing the clauses. (last time my lawyers ask them, they supposedly were very busy and needed more time). Always excuses.. So will see. Now regarding Pantaneus (reminder: one of their insured lost control and hit my vessel in Nassau in July 2014). They still not have sent the ridiculous amount they agreed to pay. Helvetia said that Mr Thomas Mullady does not reply any of their email. Helvetia assures me, they do everything to obtain that payment. I told them, if in 2014 then you did not want to hire a lawyer for $20.000 I doubt you will hire one for less. They assure me again I would be reimbursed. Personally I will NEVER use insurance again (aside for the required liability). It is obvious they are ALL dishonest. In the pasts, I heard many “horror” stories, I thought this was exaggerations from upset people, unfortunately this is all true. On a side note, the french customs asked me to pay “this year” (2019) annual fee for the boat (which they know sunk in 2017), but we solved that. Sincerely, Alexandre
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Re: Insurance updates.
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Back in December Helvetia (subscribed through DeLassee Insurance) made a better (still very unfair) offer, which my french lawyers pressed me to accept, but it came with a special clause or exemption that would completely exonerate Helvetia from anything now on…
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I was a bit stunned my lawyers did not warn me that this meant that “I” would be responsible for dealing with “the rest” of the stuff (for example the Simpson Bay Marina suing boat owners for damages to the dock). I said no and wrote one of them that I was questioning which interest they were defending… Mine? The insurance? or theirs? … and in the case of refuse by the insurance I will seek another lawyer to sue the insurance. There was a back and forth letters asking for the removal then modification of the clause, lots of delay from the insurance to reply, either the guy was on vacation for 3 weeks or the office was closed for the Holliday, etc. but, phrase differently, still the insurance kept some of the clause, lawyers suggest I would add a hand written note, which the insurance refused yesterday. So now I was heading to court. So yesterday I wrote the lawyers that, since the insurance said NO, I was going to hire a different lawyer for the “full amount” (not the unfair offer), plus everything that was always denied even thought written in the contrat such as expertise fee, lawyers fee, etc. Then today guess what? While it usually take 30 days for the insurance to reply to any letter, my lawyer email me “the insurance has cracked” with a document to signed without the exemption… Sincerely, Alexandre --------------------------------------------
On Thu, 2/28/19, Alexandre Uster von Baar via Groups.Io <uster=rocketmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance updates. To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Date: Thursday, February 28, 2019, 12:56 PM Over 2 months later, and despite 2 more letters from my lawyers to ask the settlement clauses to be notified still nothing. So today I called Helvetia and said these clauses were not acceptable, that they should know by now that I will not let go, that personally I wanted to go to trial, but my lawyers want to solve the issue peacefully. The person said he will contact the legal department to see about changing the clauses. (last time my lawyers ask them, they supposedly were very busy and needed more time). Always excuses.. So will see. Now regarding Pantaneus (reminder: one of their insured lost control and hit my vessel in Nassau in July 2014). They still not have sent the ridiculous amount they agreed to pay. Helvetia said that Mr Thomas Mullady does not reply any of their email. Helvetia assures me, they do everything to obtain that payment. I told them, if in 2014 then you did not want to hire a lawyer for $20.000 I doubt you will hire one for less. They assure me again I would be reimbursed. Personally I will NEVER use insurance again (aside for the required liability). It is obvious they are ALL dishonest. In the pasts, I heard many “horror” stories, I thought this was exaggerations from upset people, unfortunately this is all true. On a side note, the french customs asked me to pay “this year” (2019) annual fee for the boat (which they know sunk in 2017), but we solved that. Sincerely, Alexandre
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Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k
When I purchased Amelia in 2017 both Dolphins were dead. I replaced the 100 amp with a Xantrex inverter charger(Special offer at Budget marine Grenada)8 and a 30A Mastervolt, which still works fine but judging from this forum I shoulda gone Victron. It is easy to be wise. Still I am happy with solar, wind, 175A Alternator, Xantrex, Mastervolt. Between that lot we gonna be well charged whatever.....on my last quick passsage north from La Palma, my battery bank stayed at 100% for the entire passage despite running deep freeze and two fridges, radar and autopilot 24/7. Mind you the apparent wind was drumming permanent 20-35kn. The wind generators were cranking. Enjoying peace and tranquility of Funchal....
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On 29 Apr 2019, at 21:20, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington@...> wrote:
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Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k
.....king Mastervolt
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On 28 Apr 2019, at 08:16, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:
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Re: Changing engine bearings Amel Mango Perkins 4.236
Frederic F
Hello James,
excellent that are the pictures I was looking for! Thank you very much. All the best, Frederic
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Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k
Kent, why did you choose the 80/24 vs. the 100/24? Ian & Margaret S/V Loca Lola II SM153 Exumas, Bahamas
On Apr 28, 2019, at 9:40 PM, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:
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Re: SM Fairlead
christian alby <calbyy@...>
Hi there Stainless steel is smoother & harder, therefore may be better choice to keep lines under tension & avoid chafing Under heavy stress; do not know effect of heating when tension is constant & applies compression to strands. Easy to clean from salt deposits. Only drawback would be that Stainless steel grade 316 is brittle & does not like shocks (unlikely to happen) … Still cheaper (@30%) than Alm However, I have 38 years old Aluminium faileads on our 'Big Mama' & being slightly softer allow lines to compress & move without damage other than heating when under heavy constant strain. Alm casting is resilient & can take blows, easy to smooth down … your choice, Shine & save vs Light & soft … fair winds, & smooth moorings christian alby - Désirade VIII ( Maramu 116 - now in Canet
Le dimanche 28 avril 2019 13:40:11 AST, Keith Tice <amel@...> a écrit :
Hi Christian,
Thanks for the hint. I checked out the web site and believe that I can find a good solution with them. For friction reduction, I wonder if Stainless Steel or Aluminum is preferable. Fair winds Keith Tice Bikini - SM2K #282
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Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k
I have had the Skylla 80/24 for 3 years now for my 520AHr bank of deep cycle lead-acid batteries. So far no problems whatsoever.
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Kent SM 243
On Apr 28, 2019, at 7:16 PM, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
We have had a Victron Skylla 100/24 on Elyse since the old Dolphins died 5 years ago. Very good experience, no problems at all. Very flexible and versatile charger, mode selectable for all types of batteries. We have 660Ah of 6V AGM batteries in 3 banks of 4 with balancers, works very well. Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k
We have had a Victron Skylla 100/24 on Elyse since the old Dolphins died 5 years ago. Very good experience, no problems at all. Very flexible and versatile charger, mode selectable for all types of batteries. We have 660Ah of 6V AGM batteries in 3 banks of 4 with balancers, works very well.
Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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