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Damaged c-drive female bearing

Larry Salibra
 

Hello everyone! 

Long time lurker and new caretaker of 1995 Super Maramu #140 "Sula," taking over from Graham after his 15 years of excellent stewardship.

I've got Sula on the hard for anti-fouling and regular maintenance and in the process of replacing the C-drive wear bushing and seals, I had a lot of trouble removing the seals - they hadn't been changed since 2013. I tried both the screws and slide hammer method recommended by Bill Rouse and the Amel-recommended flat screw driver method without success over a period of a couple hours. A new boat owner in desperation, I hired one of the boatyard's mechanics to assist me in removing the seals and in the 90 minute process of trying to remove the seals, he scraped the inside of the in situ female bearing (the brass cavity the wear bushing fits into). I've attached a photo with the damage circled in red.

Has anyone else had this problem, and if so, how did you repair it? 

Thanks!

Larry
SM140 Sula
Hong Kong

Has anyone else had
Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Steve Bell
 

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 03:40 AM, Jeff Williams wrote:
Hi All,
Just bought Spruzzo SM#379.  Dishwasher was removed and the Admiral insists I install one.   
 
Any suggestions?
 
Thanks,
Jeff
Marina di Ragusa, Sicily

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 10:08 AM Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...> wrote:
The most useful domestic appliance on board. It uses less water and frees your sink space. You power it on when you charge your batteries with the generator and produce water by the watermaker. Thank you captain for installing it on board

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 

On 18 Dec 2020, at 00:05, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii

 

 


 On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 03:40 AM, Jeff Williams wrote:
Hi All,
Just bought Spruzzo SM#379.  Dishwasher was removed and the Admiral insists I install one.   
 
Any suggestions?
 
Thanks,
Jeff
Marina di Ragusa, Sicily

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 10:08 AM Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...> wrote:
The most useful domestic appliance on board. It uses less water and frees your sink space. You power it on when you charge your batteries with the generator and produce water by the watermaker. Thank you captain for installing it on board

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 

On 18 Dec 2020, at 00:05, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii

 

 


 On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 03:40 AM, Jeff Williams wrote:
Hi All,
Just bought Spruzzo SM#379.  Dishwasher was removed and the Admiral insists I install one.   
 
Any suggestions?
 
Thanks,
Jeff
Marina di Ragusa, Sicily

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 10:08 AM Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...> wrote:
The most useful domestic appliance on board. It uses less water and frees your sink space. You power it on when you charge your batteries with the generator and produce water by the watermaker. Thank you captain for installing it on board

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 

On 18 Dec 2020, at 00:05, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii

 

 


 Hi Jeff. Just for your info SM 377 & SM 378 (Dusk) are also in Scicly (Licata).

regards
Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Alan Leslie
 

When we bought Elyse in 2013, I didn't think I'd ever use it, but I do !
With just two on the boat it doesn't seem justified, but with 4 I have used it a lot.
With just two on the boat, we wash dishes by hand and put them in the dishwasher to drip dry.
This works really well at sea.
After a couple of weeks we run it to drain the water out of it.
Brilliant !
Alan
Elyse SM437
Re: It´s time to introduce ourselves.

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Welcome Anke and Martin, welcome on aboard to this great group,

 

I’m sure you will enjoy and appreciate your new Amel, as much as we do.

We are cruising with our 54 in the Med and we winterize in Spain right now. We had the plan to cross the Atlantic this winter, but the virus delayed our plan. We started our cruising-live 5 years ago in New Zealand and spend some time in the Pacific and Asian waters. We are dreaming to go back to the Pacific after spending some time in the Med last 2 years.  Our plan is to leave the Med end of 2021 for Caribean, same as you. Maybe we will meet somewhere coming year. Where are you based right now? 

 

Wishing you fair winds with Mago del Sur.

 

Ruedi & Sabina Waldispuehl-Trazza

SY WASABI

A54#55

MMSI: 269322000  

Call Sign: HBY3811
Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

That sounds good Dimitris, Had it still been in place when we bought Ocean Pearl we may have discovered its value. However I dont think I will change back.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 18 December 2020 at 22:08 Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...> wrote:

The most useful domestic appliance on board. It uses less water and frees your sink space. You power it on when you charge your batteries with the generator and produce water by the watermaker. Thank you captain for installing it on board

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 

On 18 Dec 2020, at 00:05, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

~~~ ⛵️~~~ Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman < lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii


 


 
Santorini 12v panel miniature bulbs

Ian Park
 

Can anyone tell me the type of bulb used for the fridge/bilge/fridge breakers?
Thanks
Ian

Ocean Hobo SN 96 wintering North Wales
Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Jose Venegas
 

We kept the dishwasher intact but removed and saved all internal parts and installed a bred maker which we have greatly enjoyed, particularly when crossing the Atlantic

José
Ipanema SM 2k 277
Santa Marta
Re: SM2K dishwasher space

amelforme
 

Hi Jeff and congratulations on your acquisition. Unfortunately, the early boats that had the front opening dishwasher, it is no longer available and is not supported for spare parts.  Same thing with the later top opening version. The “brain’ on the top opening version seems to be particularly vulnerable. Any electrical/computer engineers out there who could reverse engineer one? I am told it is a very simple device.

 

Tom and Kirstin on L’Orient, I could tell by the petulant look on Tom’s face when I showed him how to operate the dishwasher that likely this would be the only time it would be used. If you do convert this space to storage, refridgeration, icemaker or ???, could you operate it one more time to prove that the brain is functioning and then save the brain for me so I can get it reverse engineered?

 

If you repurpose this area thoughtfully and to Amel quality standards, it will not adversely affect your resale value. I used and appreciated the dishwasher on both of the Super Maramus I was fortunate to own and enjoy. Got the water up to 180F and used less of it than hand washing while being whisper quiet while doing so. That said, about 1/3 of the boats I resell, the owners indicate that

the dishwasher was not used much if ever.

 

All the best,

Joel

 

           JOEL F. POTTER ~ CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST, L.L.C.

                                         The Experienced AMEL Guy

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                  Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Williams
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 4:40 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM2K dishwasher space

 

Hi All,

Just bought Spruzzo SM#379.  Dishwasher was removed and the Admiral insists I install one.   

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

Jeff

Marina di Ragusa, Sicily

 

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 10:08 AM Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...> wrote:

The most useful domestic appliance on board. It uses less water and frees your sink space. You power it on when you charge your batteries with the generator and produce water by the watermaker. Thank you captain for installing it on board

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 



On 18 Dec 2020, at 00:05, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

 

~~~⛵️~~~Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27


On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin

SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii
Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Jeff Williams
 

Hi All,
Just bought Spruzzo SM#379.  Dishwasher was removed and the Admiral insists I install one.   

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Jeff
Marina di Ragusa, Sicily

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 10:08 AM Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...> wrote:
The most useful domestic appliance on board. It uses less water and frees your sink space. You power it on when you charge your batteries with the generator and produce water by the watermaker. Thank you captain for installing it on board

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 

On 18 Dec 2020, at 00:05, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii
Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Dimitris Krasopoulos
 

The most useful domestic appliance on board. It uses less water and frees your sink space. You power it on when you charge your batteries with the generator and produce water by the watermaker. Thank you captain for installing it on board

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 

On 18 Dec 2020, at 00:05, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii
Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Randall Walker
 

Repurposed into a storage space by the previous owner. It may become a space for icemaker.

Randall
A54#56

Virus-free. www.avg.com


On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 9:19 PM Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:
On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii
Re: SM2K dishwasher space

michael winand
 

We use it for pots pans then it's free for dishes after dinner. 
Michael Nebo sm251 


On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 9:05 am, Matt Salatino via groups.io
<helmsmatt@...> wrote:
We always thought it would use less water than hand washing.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt Salatino SV Speed of Life A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:33 PM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:

And it only uses 2 liters per load 😄


On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:


Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii
Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Matt Salatino
 

We always thought it would use less water than hand washing.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt Salatino SV Speed of Life A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:33 PM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:

And it only uses 2 liters per load 😄


On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii
Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Courtney Gorman
 

And it only uses 2 liters per load 😄


On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii
Re: Rudder seal packing material

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello Paul,

Any good chandler should handle this item.  I got mine in NZ at Cater Marine in Opua.  I believe all Amels use a 8 mm width.  Check yours and let us know the width; if you do not find it in OZ, contact Cater and they’ll ship to you.

Very easy to change; Google is your friend.

Cheers,


Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, Opua, NZ



On 18 Dec 2020, at 10:27, Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

Can you please assist?

I would like to purchase a stock of rudder packing material for my Amel 55 locally in Australia. Is there a supplier other than Amel or can I purchase from other distributors?

thank you in advance 

kind regards, Paul Brown - Fortuna II Amel 55 #17

Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Matt Salatino
 

Cindy actually likes using our dishwasher. Who am I to diminish her happiness?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt, SV Speed of Life, A50#27

On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii
Rudder seal packing material

Paul Brown
 

Can you please assist?

I would like to purchase a stock of rudder packing material for my Amel 55 locally in Australia. Is there a supplier other than Amel or can I purchase from other distributors?

thank you in advance 

kind regards, Paul Brown - Fortuna II Amel 55 #17
Re: SM2K dishwasher space

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Tom and Kirtin,

we have a top opening fridge in the dishwasher space installed by the PO and not the most elaborate but we are very happy with it and it gets a lot of use.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 18 December 2020 at 09:19 Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii
SM2K dishwasher space

Thomas Kleman
 

On SM2K 422, we've adhered to the "keep it original" mantra pretty faithfully. No panels of aircraft breakers, holes in wood, etc. 

10.5 years ago Joel Potter activated the dishwasher to show me it works. That's the last time it was used. Having lived aboard for 9 years now we are pretty sure our habits won't change. We consider it unnecessary and wasteful for 2 people to have one on this boat. We keep wine in it now.

Wondering if anyone out there has re-purposed this space in some clever way. Wine fridge ? Storage ? Something else ?

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
Oahu, Hawaii
Re: In mast furler - Brake - Amel 54

Stefan Schaufert
 

To bring this story to an end:

 

I disassembled the brake as far as possible.

It is a simple electric powered magnet completely embedded in a resin, thus you can not check the wires etc..

It holds (usually) a ring of metall the moment you use the furler.

The ring is (all the other time) pressing against a brake disc (plastic, connected with the shaft of the electric motor via a gearwheel) by 8 small spiral springs - arranged in 2 circles.

I checked the wires going in to the magnet. There are appr. 25V when furling. But the magnet was not reacting. I „helped“ him by pressing and then it worked.

Thus I assume the magnet is getting „old“, reduced the springs from 8 to 4 (keeping the outer ones).

 

Now it is working fine again and there is still enough pressure to hold the foil.

 

Be aware of the 3 screws on the outside of the device. They are for adjusting the space/ pressure to the brake disc. So when there is slip (e.g. the main is furling out itself in a gust), you have to turn them a bit out. When it seems like the brake is not releasing the furler (enough), the screws need to be tightened a bit (pressing the disc more to the springs and the magnet).

I assume that was what Alexander (A54#156) meant with, „It (the brake) needs a carefull synchronisation with the furler engine.“ 

 

You can take the brake out of the furler by only disconnecting the down cap. The brake is the first thing you see when the cap is open.

Overall, the access is much more complex and difficult than the thing itself.


Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to all of you.

Stefan
A54 #119 Lady Charlyette, currently Bahamas, Long Island
1101 - 1120 of 56798