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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Changing Dessalator membranes

Mark Erdos
 

Mark,

 

This is exactly what I was thinking about. There are some very good pics and diagrams. Thanks!

 

James,

 

When you undertake this project, the best advice I can give you is to label EVERYTHING. When it comes time to put the membranes in and put it all back together, it can get very confusing very quickly.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 2:21 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Changing Dessalator membranes

 

 

Mark/James,


I'm not aware of the PDF you are referring to but there is a folder in the Photos section of the forum that has a bunch of great pics from Gary Silver and Bill Rouse called "Dessalator Water Maker Service" found here:  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1219017177

 

This forum is a treasure trove of great information.  It's just not always easy to find!

 

Mark McGovern

SM #440 Cara

Deale, MD USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Changing Dessalator membranes

mfmcgovern@...
 

Mark/James,

I'm not aware of the PDF you are referring to but there is a folder in the Photos section of the forum that has a bunch of great pics from Gary Silver and Bill Rouse called "Dessalator Water Maker Service" found here:  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1219017177

This forum is a treasure trove of great information.  It's just not always easy to find!

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Changing Dessalator membranes

Mark Erdos
 

James,

 

You’re welcome. I also failed to mention Gary Silver did a very detailed pdf about changing membranes. I do not recall where it is on the forum (perhaps someone else can provide a link/location). He includes very detailed pictures. I like pictures.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 9:57 AM
To: Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners]
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Changing Dessalator membranes

 

 

Thanks Mark!  I did not realize the extent of the online library on the owners group!

 

-James

On Jan 7, 2019, at 7:49 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

James,

 

In the FILES section of the forum there are very detailed instructions. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/files/Dessalator%20Technical%20Info/

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@...[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] 
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 9:17 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Changing Dessalator membranes

 

  

Hello Friends - 

 

I am about to embark on changing the two membranes in my Dessalator Duo 60 (160L/hr).  I have Super Maramu 2000, #347.  

 

I am interested to hear of the experience others have had changing the membranes, any tips, difficulties, etc.  

I cannot seem to find any step by step instructions for membrane change elsewhere.  

 

Thank you!

 

James

SV Soteria

SM2K 347

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Changing Dessalator membranes

James Cromie
 

Thanks Mark!  I did not realize the extent of the online library on the owners group!

-James

On Jan 7, 2019, at 7:49 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


James,

 

In the FILES section of the forum there are very detailed instructions. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/files/Dessalator%20Technical%20Info/

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@...[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] 
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 9:17 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Changing Dessalator membranes

 

  

Hello Friends - 

 

I am about to embark on changing the two membranes in my Dessalator Duo 60 (160L/hr).  I have Super Maramu 2000, #347.  

 

I am interested to hear of the experience others have had changing the membranes, any tips, difficulties, etc.  

I cannot seem to find any step by step instructions for membrane change elsewhere.  

 

Thank you!

 

James

SV Soteria

SM2K 347




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

mfmcgovern@...
 

Mike,

No problem.  I plan to keep a few sets of completed pulleys "in stock" so if those don't work out I will have some.  And just to be clear my machine shop is actually MY machine shop.  I own a company that makes automotive parts. 

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Changing Dessalator membranes

James Cromie
 

Hello Friends - 


I am about to embark on changing the two membranes in my Dessalator Duo 60 (160L/hr).  I have Super Maramu 2000, #347.  


I am interested to hear of the experience others have had changing the membranes, any tips, difficulties, etc.  

I cannot seem to find any step by step instructions for membrane change elsewhere.  


Thank you!


James

SV Soteria

SM2K 347


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Changing Dessalator membranes

Mark Erdos
 

James,

 

In the FILES section of the forum there are very detailed instructions. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/files/Dessalator%20Technical%20Info/

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 9:17 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Changing Dessalator membranes

 

 

Hello Friends - 

 

I am about to embark on changing the two membranes in my Dessalator Duo 60 (160L/hr).  I have Super Maramu 2000, #347.  

 

I am interested to hear of the experience others have had changing the membranes, any tips, difficulties, etc.  

I cannot seem to find any step by step instructions for membrane change elsewhere.  

 

Thank you!

 

James

SV Soteria

SM2K 347


!986 Amel Sharki 'JOSS' for sale

Willem Kroes
 

For those visiting this website looking for an older model Amel, I uploaded a file with all the details and pictures of a 1986 Sharki named JOSS. I am helping the owner (not commercially) to sell his boat. 


If interested, don't hesitate to contact me.


Willem Kroes


SM # 351 KAVANGA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] How to remove the Mainsail furling motor on a 54? [2 Attachments]

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi Porter

It will come out, just a bit shoehorned. 
Make sure you protect the mast paint to avoid chipping. I used a single layer if sunbrella and it  went ok. Mohammad is right that the spacers between the mast and the furling motor need to be removed. 

Having said that, you may be disappointed with the inspection. Opening that box is a bit of a challenge. Amel told me it couldn’t be repaired.    But we didn’t really have a choice and a ‘Guy’ in Morocco helped us out regluing the permanent magnets. I also had to readjust the clutch, but it never felt quite right. Bought a spare clutch (a nightmare to source) and eventually coughed up for a new furler from Amel in Martinique. 


Thomas 
GARULFO 
A54-122
San Blas, Panama, on a miracle mobile internet connection. 


On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 at 19:16, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Gentlemen and ladies,

May I please impose a question on you?

Because the mainsail is furling ever more slowly and in a “tired” fashion I want to remove the mainsail furling motor and examine it.

Today I tried, unsuccessfully, to do just that. I could not get the motor and housing out of the mast. There appeared to be no way of removing it. I removed all the mounting screws and dropped it down, but the motor and housing diameter appears larger than the exiting width of the mast. There must be a trick. Surely we don’t have to take down the mast to do this. Does anyone have any insight on how to do this? I can’t believe Amel would make this as easy and obvious as they have with everything else. I am most certainly just not thinking of it.

Pictures below.

Many thanks in advance,

Porter McRoberts
Amel 54-152 S/V IBIS. Panama








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Re: what's the best line for my mainsail boom?

Paul Osterberg
 

I agree with Bill K, I have a 12 mm Vectran line, works very well.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 now in Culebra


Re: Rough engine at idle

Gary Wells
 

.... annnnd... I forgot my signature ;)

Gary W.
S/V Adagio, SM #209
Virgin Gorda



Re: Rough engine at idle

Gary Wells
 

I can't say about the actual rough idle, but I ~thought~ I had a rough idle.  Turned out that the metal exhaust muffler was just touching, and therefore rattling, on the engine room floor.  A new piece of insulating pad solved that.
Second, I just had the visually 'ok' looking motor mounts on Adagio changed out in Martinique.  The mechanic threw everything ounce of his weight into the motor to check the mounts, and I was surprised how far he got the engine to wiggle.  After that, he said 'the mounts are good' so, it takes heroic effort to get the motor to move around :).
We did find one point that was weeping a tiny bit of oil, so I opted to swap them all (6).  Also changed out the donuts in the coupler and the vibration dampener on the flywheel.
The results, while I wouldn't say 'dramatic', were quite noticeable at idle and it really does run more smoothly overall now. I have to learn the new sounds :)



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

Mike Ondra
 

Hi Mark,

I am going to hold off on ordering the stainless sheaves for now since I already have Bernard’s PETP pulleys and his additional explanation below which I will test out and perhaps modify if necessary. In the event this doesn’t work do you think your machine shop would take orders at a later date?

For those who have ordered or are using Bernard’s PETP sheaves,  what have been the success or failure results? His updated installation instructions are attached.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

St. Augustine, FL

Home port: Rock Hall, MD

 

Hi Mike

I was away with a daughter to country skiing in mountains...

I had a phone call with Jean-Luc Mertz who installed first these pulleys with me and I looked at the message of Peter you join.

 

Peter used ropes with too small diameter 3/8" equals 9.52 mm, and according to Jean-Luc and I, did not pull enough on the rope (which is probably too soft and extensible). I would advice him to use a rope compatible with the wedge principle.

 

The principle of wedge contact of a cable or a rope is universally used in elevators, electric motors,..., and needs a minimum of pairing between the pulley and the rope.

 

A good pairing needs :

- a tight rope of aramid fibers with diameter of minimum 10 mm, never less,

- a rope with a maximum extension of 2% at half load and

- a rope tension above a few kN.

 

Due to the mechanical thinning of the rope when tensioned (Poisson

coefficient) the rope must be tight enough to not reduce its transversal dimension too much.

Outside these rules good working is only chance.

 

I have joined the updated manual.

 

Wish you an Happy New Year.

Bernard

_._,___


Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

mfmcgovern@...
 

Paul, Vladimir, and Ian,

You guys are good.  I will send you emails offline.

Thanks to you all for the support on this project.

Mark McGovern
SM#440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: what's the best line for my mainsail boom?

greatketch@...
 

Alex,

New England Ropes makes a Vectran cored line called "V-100" that has very low stretch, a high friction polyester cover, is available in 12 mm, is very tolerant of going around the small diameter sheaves in the mainsheet system, and is easy to splice.  It is a very "solid" line with no tendency to squash down under load.

There are other lines that are also suitable, but this is the one I have been using with good success on the Amel outhauls and travelers.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
North Bimini, Bahamas


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] what's the best line for my mainsail boom?

 

Alex,

Originally on early 54s the line was 10mm kevlar core, polyester sheath.

Amel now recommends 12mm. You probably will not find kevlar. Use a core fiber that has the less stretch.

Do you know how to correctly rig the outhaul? Do you have my procedures?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sun, Jan 6, 2019, 10:51 Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Dear Amelians, 

I had all lines of my 54 replaced two years ago in Florida. It turns out that the line in the boom which is pulling the mainsail ,doesn't hold the sail in its position, even if the sail is under normal pressure. In relatively light winds already, the line slides around the pullies and the sail looses the desired shape.

Can anyone tell me what the original line was that AMEL used or what your best practices and experience is in case you also replaced that line?

Fair winds,
Alex
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54 #15



what's the best line for my mainsail boom?

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Dear Amelians, 

I had all lines of my 54 replaced two years ago in Florida. It turns out that the line in the boom which is pulling the mainsail ,doesn't hold the sail in its position, even if the sail is under normal pressure. In relatively light winds already, the line slides around the pullies and the sail looses the desired shape.

Can anyone tell me what the original line was that AMEL used or what your best practices and experience is in case you also replaced that line?

Fair winds,
Alex
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54 #15



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

Ian Townsend
 

Mark, I'd be interested if it's still possible. Thx.

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153

On Jan 4, 2019, at 10:19 AM, mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Danny,


Thanks for the endorsement.  It does seem like an odd choice of both material (Aluminum) and the manufacturing process (Casting vs.Machining) especially in light of all the excellent engineering choices made in the design and construction of Amels.

In any case, I am proceeding to make a set of 316 Stainless Steel pulleys for myself and for a few other owners who reached out to me.  My materials supplier had a drop (short stick) of 4" diameter 316L Stainless Steel on hand which will allow me to make a set of pulleys for myself and for the owners that have contacted me.  It will also allow me to make a few sets of spare pulleys "on the shelf" and available for immediate shipment.  The cost will be US$190/pulley.  I expect to have them completed on or around January 18th.  

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

I am also interested.

SM 345 "Life is Good"
Vladimir Sonsev
202 258 1916

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019, 3:47 AM carpathia3@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Hi Mark,

I would be interested in two pulleys too, if you still have a couple available! Shipping to France or US if easier. I will write to your email. Mine is carpathia3 at yahoo dot com.

Many thanks for your help on this!

Guillaume
s/v Carpathia III
SM2K #293


Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

Cathy & Guillaume
 

Hi Mark,

I would be interested in two pulleys too, if you still have a couple available! Shipping to France or US if easier. I will write to your email. Mine is carpathia3 at yahoo dot com.

Many thanks for your help on this!

Guillaume
s/v Carpathia III
SM2K #293