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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow nav light re-wiring

Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@...>
 

Thomas
We had a similar re-wiring problem. We simply tied a leader line to the electrical wire and gently pulled it through the opening.  Once through we  re-threaded the new wire back up the stanchion.

Paul & Sue LaFrance
Former owners of SV NOMAD SM#362



From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of thomas.kleman
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 10:16 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow nav light re-wiring
 
 

In investigating my starboard nav light failure I've encountered deteriorating wiring. I suspect I will have to remove the pulpit to thread the new wire, but was hoping someone had a miraculous and novel technique for leaving it in place.

Tom Kleman, SV L'ORIENT SM2K 422, Puerto Velero Colombia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re:Heading to S Pacific

Mark Erdos
 

Kent,

 

While in T&C, if you opt to stay at Turtle Cove Marina, be sure to use the free pilot boat to guide you in (at high tide). Else, Blue Haven is a nice alternative but very expensive and not near anything.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 2:09 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Cc: Capt Iris Clarke
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re:Heading to S Pacific

 

 

Hi James.

Sounds like we will be in T&C at the same time.  Would like to be in Panama before the hurricane season.

 

Let’s stay in touch, would love to meet and have a beer/wine/rum

 

Kent & Iris

Kent Robertson

S/V Kristy

USA cell: 828-234-6819


On Jan 4, 2019, at 9:56 AM, James Cromie jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent - when are you projecting you'll be near Panama?  We are heading that way around July - August approximately. We are going to be in Turks and Caicos in about a month. 

 

Best. 

James

Soteria

SM2k 347. Currently in eleuthera

 

On Jan 4, 2019 8:21 AM, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Danny,

Thanks, I’ll experiment a bit and let the group know what I figure out.

 

Yes we are finally starting our SPac cruise, first leg to Turks and Caicos, thru the Caribbean, Belize, Panama, and thru the Canal.  Will probably go S this Summer to Ecuador and spend some time in S America, then on to the S Pac next Spring.

 

It seems that no matter how much prep is done, there are always delays like this jib furler problem.  I’m trying not to get too frustrated and hope that finances don’t cut our journey short.

 

Iris is a good sport and contributes greatly to my state of mind.  She’s also got a great mind for problem-solving and we are becoming a good team. I’m confident we will be in your neck of the woods in a few years as long as the finances don’t give out.

 

All the best,

Kent & Iris

Kristy

SM 243

 


On Jan 3, 2019, at 1:53 PM, Danny Simms sailorman.ds@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

I haven't had to use it so can't answer the tension thing, but if you consider the posts on the  mainsail out-haul it would seem that more tension would help.Likewise the type of rope could be an issue. Ordinary polyester braid would be good for this application since stretch is not an issue. For tension I could imagine a few wraps on the idle winch and holding the tail in one hand while grinding on the other winch with the self tailer engaged would be the method but of course for me that is but a theory.

All the best for the new year. Are you still planning voyaging to the South Pacific?

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

Mangonui New Zealand 

 

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 03:49, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Yes, Danny, the line is crossed after it leaves the drum.  Do I have to keep a lot of pressure on both sides of the line while furling and unfurling?  When single-handing, cranking on one side, tailing on the other side, and tailing the sheet to get a reasonably tight furl leaves me one hand short.  Admittedly, I’ve only tried it a couple of times so I may not have figured out something obvious.  What’s the trick?

 

Thank you Duane, I’ll let you know what I find...hope that’s the problem!

Kent & Iris

Kristy

SM243

 


On Jan 3, 2019, at 3:10 AM, simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent, when you run the manual furling line do you cross it after it leaves the pulley on the forestay. If not you are losing a big part if the rope/ pulley contact friction.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 

Ocean Pearl

 

On 3/01/2019 08:12, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

 

Before you condemn the gearing inside the box, be sure that the drive pin in the furling drum is fully engaging in the drive plate that is mounted on top of the gearbox.  We had our drive plate blow apart a few years ago, and other people have had trouble with the hole rounding over and pushing the pin up.  That sounds like the more likely cause.

 

Having just had our furling gearbox apart for routine maintenance, I think it very unlikely that the gearing inside the gearbox is the problem.  Certainly possible, but unlikely given what you describe as symptoms.

 

For the manual furling line, we have 10mm double braid dacron.  That worked great for us on the two occasions we needed it.  I wonder if the StaySet might be too stiff?  7/16" would not be too big.

 

If you need this unit disassembled and looked at, you might try Nance and Underwood, riggers in Fort Lauderdale.  They know Amel's very well, and Roger Underwood has been a help when we have used him.  If you need a new drive plate, I know they can make one for you.

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA

 

 


Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

mfmcgovern@...
 

James,

We are still good.  I'll shoot you an email.

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Galapagos

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Heinz,
Don't forget to sail THRU Leon Dormido (aka Kicker Rock) on your way to Puerto Baquerizo Moreno then jump in for a dip. 
Cheers, Craig Briggs SN68



Bow nav light re-wiring

thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>
 

In investigating my starboard nav light failure I've encountered deteriorating wiring. I suspect I will have to remove the pulpit to thread the new wire, but was hoping someone had a miraculous and novel technique for leaving it in place.

Tom Kleman, SV L'ORIENT SM2K 422, Puerto Velero Colombia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

James Cromie
 

Mark - I'd be interested in a pair of pulleys if you have enough material for another set. 
My contact is Jamescromie "at" Yahoo dot com

Please let me know  Thanks! 

James
Soteria sm2k  #347

On Jan 4, 2019 10:19 AM, "mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Danny,


Thanks for the endorsement.  It does seem like an odd choice of both material (Aluminum) and the manufacturing process (Casting vs.Machining) especially in light of all the excellent engineering choices made in the design and construction of Amels.

In any case, I am proceeding to make a set of 316 Stainless Steel pulleys for myself and for a few other owners who reached out to me.  My materials supplier had a drop (short stick) of 4" diameter 316L Stainless Steel on hand which will allow me to make a set of pulleys for myself and for the owners that have contacted me.  It will also allow me to make a few sets of spare pulleys "on the shelf" and available for immediate shipment.  The cost will be US$190/pulley.  I expect to have them completed on or around January 18th.  

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Galapagos

Heinz Stutenbaeumer
 

Hallo

first of all thanks for the quick answers to all.

Of course I know the reports on noonside and the books of Jimmy Cornell. but I think it's always better to get first hand news from sailors who have been there recently, because I read that the basics change monthly on Galapagos. I would be grateful if anyone could contribute to this.

For example, does anyone know anything about Ill Malpelo? can you moor there?

Heinz

Quetzal SM 2000 292

Von: amelyachtowners@...
Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Januar 2019 17:32
An: amelyachtowners@...
Betreff: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Galapagos

 

 

Heinz,

 

The agent in Galapagos is Ricardo Arenas and his email address ricardo@...

 

This guy is the referent agent of the Workd ARC and we found him very reliable 

 

Fair winds

 

Donato 

Ocean Bird #468

Now in Sidney 

 

Il giorno ven 4 gen 2019 alle 14:42 heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

Hello everyone and happy new year, 

We plan to sail to Galapagos in late February. 

Does anyone know a good agent and mail address in Galapagos? There are so many rumours circulating on the internet that it would be nice to get some reasonable information. 

Thanks, fair Winds 

Heinz 

Quetzal, SM 2000, 292


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

mfmcgovern@...
 

Redouan,

I will have enough to send you a set.  Email me your shipping address at mfmcgovern@... (mfmcgovern at gmail dot com).  

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


---In amelyachtowners@..., <Stella.AmelSM359@...> wrote :

Hi Mark,

I am interested to get a set of these pulleys in SS if it is still possible.
I would have them shipped to the Baleares.

Regards,

Redouan Assar
Stella SM359

On 4 Jan 2019, at 17:19, mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Danny,


Thanks for the endorsement.  It does seem like an odd choice of both material (Aluminum) and the manufacturing process (Casting vs.Machining) especially in light of all the excellent engineering choices made in the design and construction of Amels.

In any case, I am proceeding to make a set of 316 Stainless Steel pulleys for myself and for a few other owners who reached out to me.  My materials supplier had a drop (short stick) of 4" diameter 316L Stainless Steel on hand which will allow me to make a set of pulleys for myself and for the owners that have contacted me.  It will also allow me to make a few sets of spare pulleys "on the shelf" and available for immediate shipment.  The cost will be US$190/pulley.  I expect to have them completed on or around January 18th.  

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Mark,

If the extras have not already been spoken for, I’ll take a set. Let me know if you still have some available, and I will provide you with shipping info and payment. Thanks for taking on this project. 

Regards,

Steve Davis
Aloha SM 72
Ko Olina, Hawaii

On Jan 4, 2019, at 05:19, mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Danny,


Thanks for the endorsement.  It does seem like an odd choice of both material (Aluminum) and the manufacturing process (Casting vs.Machining) especially in light of all the excellent engineering choices made in the design and construction of Amels.

In any case, I am proceeding to make a set of 316 Stainless Steel pulleys for myself and for a few other owners who reached out to me.  My materials supplier had a drop (short stick) of 4" diameter 316L Stainless Steel on hand which will allow me to make a set of pulleys for myself and for the owners that have contacted me.  It will also allow me to make a few sets of spare pulleys "on the shelf" and available for immediate shipment.  The cost will be US$190/pulley.  I expect to have them completed on or around January 18th.  

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Galapagos

Donato Valente
 

Heinz,

The agent in Galapagos is Ricardo Arenas and his email address ricardo@...

This guy is the referent agent of the Workd ARC and we found him very reliable 

Fair winds

Donato 
Ocean Bird #468
Now in Sidney 

Il giorno ven 4 gen 2019 alle 14:42 heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:
 

Hello everyone and happy new year, 

We plan to sail to Galapagos in late February. 

Does anyone know a good agent and mail address in Galapagos? There are so many rumours circulating on the internet that it would be nice to get some reasonable information. 

Thanks, fair Winds 

Heinz 

Quetzal, SM 2000, 292


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Galapagos

 

Heinz,   

Sadly, Jimmy Cornell sold Noonsite about 8-10 years ago when he sold the ARC. The owners of the ARC own Noonsite. 

And, although I agree with you on visiting Galapagos when crossing from Panama, there has been some changes since we were there in 2008.

I suggest that you check Noonsite's Galapagos page: https://www.noonsite.com/Countries/Galapagos AND Noonsite's page on the primary port of entry, San Cristobal: https://www.noonsite.com/Countries/Galapagos?a=SanCristobal

The port captain did not clear us in, but allowed us 24 hours there. I believe if you arrive early one morning, he will allow you to stay overnight. He held our passports while we were there and allowed us to go ashore. We saw "Lonesome George" and bought fuel which was delivered to our boat at anchor. If you do this, I strongly recommend that you get permission from the port captain...find him. We were lucky because 15 minutes after we dropped anchor he came alongside in a small wooden boat. As always, a friendly and courteous attitude toward go a very long way with some official bending the rules.

BTW, when we arrived at the San Cristobal (main island), we had to drop a stern anchor because of the swell entering the bay and because it was very crowded. If you are not familiar with the process, practice before you go. We also had some heavy petroleum substance on our water line. If this happens to your boat, be sure to clean this before it dries...if not, you will have a very difficult time.

I hope this helps, but my personal information is 10 years old.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 9:13 AM Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Heinz,

Check with Noonsite,com. This is Jimmy Cornell’s (and son) website for updated & verified world cruising information by cruisers. This info coupled with his World Cruising routes and Cruising Atlas are the bible. The Galapagos are worth the any headache.  

Ric

Bali Hai SN 24

Annapolis

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 8:39 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Galapagos

 

 

Hello everyone and happy new year, 

We plan to sail to Galapagos in late February. 

Does anyone know a good agent and mail address in Galapagos? There are so many rumours circulating on the internet that it would be nice to get some reasonable information. 

Thanks, fair Winds 

Heinz 

Quetzal, SM 2000, 292


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail) [1 Attachment]

eric freedman
 

Mark,

I would like 2 sets of pulleys.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 10:27 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail) [1 Attachment]

 

 

We are making good progress on the pulley project.  Attached is a picture of a production prototype of one half of the pulley machined from 6061 Aluminum next to the original cast Aluminum pulley.  316 Stainless Steel material is on order as well as some new tooling for machining Stainless Steel since we mostly machine Aluminum.  I will have final pricing tomorrow.

 

Mark McGovern

SM #440 Cara

Deale, MD USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 50

Porter McRoberts
 

That’s outstanding!!!!!

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Jan 4, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

A little bird just told me that Amel has sold 36 Amel 50s!

This is the best news possible for Amel and all of us.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

Red1 Stella SM359
 

Hi Mark,

I am interested to get a set of these pulleys in SS if it is still possible.
I would have them shipped to the Baleares.

Regards,

Redouan Assar
Stella SM359

On 4 Jan 2019, at 17:19, mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Danny,


Thanks for the endorsement.  It does seem like an odd choice of both material (Aluminum) and the manufacturing process (Casting vs.Machining) especially in light of all the excellent engineering choices made in the design and construction of Amels.

In any case, I am proceeding to make a set of 316 Stainless Steel pulleys for myself and for a few other owners who reached out to me.  My materials supplier had a drop (short stick) of 4" diameter 316L Stainless Steel on hand which will allow me to make a set of pulleys for myself and for the owners that have contacted me.  It will also allow me to make a few sets of spare pulleys "on the shelf" and available for immediate shipment.  The cost will be US$190/pulley.  I expect to have them completed on or around January 18th.  

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

mfmcgovern@...
 

Danny,

Thanks for the endorsement.  It does seem like an odd choice of both material (Aluminum) and the manufacturing process (Casting vs.Machining) especially in light of all the excellent engineering choices made in the design and construction of Amels.

In any case, I am proceeding to make a set of 316 Stainless Steel pulleys for myself and for a few other owners who reached out to me.  My materials supplier had a drop (short stick) of 4" diameter 316L Stainless Steel on hand which will allow me to make a set of pulleys for myself and for the owners that have contacted me.  It will also allow me to make a few sets of spare pulleys "on the shelf" and available for immediate shipment.  The cost will be US$190/pulley.  I expect to have them completed on or around January 18th.  

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Galapagos

Ric Gottschalk <ric@...>
 

Heinz,

Check with Noonsite,com. This is Jimmy Cornell’s (and son) website for updated & verified world cruising information by cruisers. This info coupled with his World Cruising routes and Cruising Atlas are the bible. The Galapagos are worth the any headache.  

Ric

Bali Hai SN 24

Annapolis

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 8:39 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Galapagos

 

 

Hello everyone and happy new year, 

We plan to sail to Galapagos in late February. 

Does anyone know a good agent and mail address in Galapagos? There are so many rumours circulating on the internet that it would be nice to get some reasonable information. 

Thanks, fair Winds 

Heinz 

Quetzal, SM 2000, 292


Amel 50

 

A little bird just told me that Amel has sold 36 Amel 50s!

This is the best news possible for Amel and all of us.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Head sail furling, Heading to S Pacific

James Cromie
 

Kent - when are you projecting you'll be near Panama?  We are heading that way around July - August approximately. We are going to be in Turks and Caicos in about a month. 

Best. 
James
Soteria
SM2k 347. Currently in eleuthera

On Jan 4, 2019 8:21 AM, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Danny,

Thanks, I’ll experiment a bit and let the group know what I figure out.

Yes we are finally starting our SPac cruise, first leg to Turks and Caicos, thru the Caribbean, Belize, Panama, and thru the Canal.  Will probably go S this Summer to Ecuador and spend some time in S America, then on to the S Pac next Spring.

It seems that no matter how much prep is done, there are always delays like this jib furler problem.  I’m trying not to get too frustrated and hope that finances don’t cut our journey short.

Iris is a good sport and contributes greatly to my state of mind.  She’s also got a great mind for problem-solving and we are becoming a good team. I’m confident we will be in your neck of the woods in a few years as long as the finances don’t give out.

All the best,
Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM 243


On Jan 3, 2019, at 1:53 PM, Danny Simms sailorman.ds@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,
I haven't had to use it so can't answer the tension thing, but if you consider the posts on the  mainsail out-haul it would seem that more tension would help.Likewise the type of rope could be an issue. Ordinary polyester braid would be good for this application since stretch is not an issue. For tension I could imagine a few wraps on the idle winch and holding the tail in one hand while grinding on the other winch with the self tailer engaged would be the method but of course for me that is but a theory.
All the best for the new year. Are you still planning voyaging to the South Pacific?
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
Mangonui New Zealand 

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 03:49, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Yes, Danny, the line is crossed after it leaves the drum.  Do I have to keep a lot of pressure on both sides of the line while furling and unfurling?  When single-handing, cranking on one side, tailing on the other side, and tailing the sheet to get a reasonably tight furl leaves me one hand short.  Admittedly, I’ve only tried it a couple of times so I may not have figured out something obvious.  What’s the trick?

Thank you Duane, I’ll let you know what I find...hope that’s the problem!
Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM243



On Jan 3, 2019, at 3:10 AM, simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent, when you run the manual furling line do you cross it after it leaves the pulley on the forestay. If not you are losing a big part if the rope/ pulley contact friction.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 
Ocean Pearl

On 3/01/2019 08:12, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Kent,


Before you condemn the gearing inside the box, be sure that the drive pin in the furling drum is fully engaging in the drive plate that is mounted on top of the gearbox.  We had our drive plate blow apart a few years ago, and other people have had trouble with the hole rounding over and pushing the pin up.  That sounds like the more likely cause.

Having just had our furling gearbox apart for routine maintenance, I think it very unlikely that the gearing inside the gearbox is the problem.  Certainly possible, but unlikely given what you describe as symptoms.

For the manual furling line, we have 10mm double braid dacron.  That worked great for us on the two occasions we needed it.  I wonder if the StaySet might be too stiff?  7/16" would not be too big.

If you need this unit disassembled and looked at, you might try Nance and Underwood, riggers in Fort Lauderdale.  They know Amel's very well, and Roger Underwood has been a help when we have used him.  If you need a new drive plate, I know they can make one for you.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA



Galapagos

Heinz Stutenbaeumer
 

Hello everyone and happy new year, 

We plan to sail to Galapagos in late February. 

Does anyone know a good agent and mail address in Galapagos? There are so many rumours circulating on the internet that it would be nice to get some reasonable information. 

Thanks, fair Winds 

Heinz 

Quetzal, SM 2000, 292


Re: Head sail furling, Heading to S Pacific

karkauai
 

Hi Danny,
Thanks, I’ll experiment a bit and let the group know what I figure out.

Yes we are finally starting our SPac cruise, first leg to Turks and Caicos, thru the Caribbean, Belize, Panama, and thru the Canal.  Will probably go S this Summer to Ecuador and spend some time in S America, then on to the S Pac next Spring.

It seems that no matter how much prep is done, there are always delays like this jib furler problem.  I’m trying not to get too frustrated and hope that finances don’t cut our journey short.

Iris is a good sport and contributes greatly to my state of mind.  She’s also got a great mind for problem-solving and we are becoming a good team. I’m confident we will be in your neck of the woods in a few years as long as the finances don’t give out.

All the best,
Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM 243


On Jan 3, 2019, at 1:53 PM, Danny Simms sailorman.ds@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,
I haven't had to use it so can't answer the tension thing, but if you consider the posts on the  mainsail out-haul it would seem that more tension would help.Likewise the type of rope could be an issue. Ordinary polyester braid would be good for this application since stretch is not an issue. For tension I could imagine a few wraps on the idle winch and holding the tail in one hand while grinding on the other winch with the self tailer engaged would be the method but of course for me that is but a theory.
All the best for the new year. Are you still planning voyaging to the South Pacific?
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
Mangonui New Zealand 

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 03:49, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Yes, Danny, the line is crossed after it leaves the drum.  Do I have to keep a lot of pressure on both sides of the line while furling and unfurling?  When single-handing, cranking on one side, tailing on the other side, and tailing the sheet to get a reasonably tight furl leaves me one hand short.  Admittedly, I’ve only tried it a couple of times so I may not have figured out something obvious.  What’s the trick?

Thank you Duane, I’ll let you know what I find...hope that’s the problem!
Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM243



On Jan 3, 2019, at 3:10 AM, simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent, when you run the manual furling line do you cross it after it leaves the pulley on the forestay. If not you are losing a big part if the rope/ pulley contact friction.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 
Ocean Pearl

On 3/01/2019 08:12, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Kent,


Before you condemn the gearing inside the box, be sure that the drive pin in the furling drum is fully engaging in the drive plate that is mounted on top of the gearbox.  We had our drive plate blow apart a few years ago, and other people have had trouble with the hole rounding over and pushing the pin up.  That sounds like the more likely cause.

Having just had our furling gearbox apart for routine maintenance, I think it very unlikely that the gearing inside the gearbox is the problem.  Certainly possible, but unlikely given what you describe as symptoms.

For the manual furling line, we have 10mm double braid dacron.  That worked great for us on the two occasions we needed it.  I wonder if the StaySet might be too stiff?  7/16" would not be too big.

If you need this unit disassembled and looked at, you might try Nance and Underwood, riggers in Fort Lauderdale.  They know Amel's very well, and Roger Underwood has been a help when we have used him.  If you need a new drive plate, I know they can make one for you.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA