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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM2K Main Sail Furling Motor Act 2

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

My wife corrected me. I should have used 'empathy'. It it shows a stronger feeling and understanding. 

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:34 PM Chuck Lacey <clacey9@...> wrote:
Hi Don,
I have complete sympathy with you and wish you the absolute best of luck on your quest for a 12v outhaul motor. I am looking for a 24v mainsail furling motor. If anyone has had recent experience with this please let me know. 
Chuck 
SM #388

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 5:12 PM donald patterson donaldpatterson533@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Based on my telephone call to Amel last week they are not available.  If you find a source would you please provide it to me.


Don Patterson


On Jan 31, 2019, at 3:36 PM, clacey9@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi All,

I looked for my earlier post regarding my mainsail furling motor but could not find it to tag onto. As you might remember mine cease to work and thanks for all the responses on what to look for. It was not the gearbox but the motor. It had water in the white plastic housing and upon opening it up there was corrosion and a cracked in half magnet. DOA? If so I thought I remembering someone ordering furling motors directly as not to incur Amel markup. Am I wrong on this and are they the only source? If so that is fine (I guess). Any suggestions for speediest fix would be appreciated.


Chuck

Joy SM #388

St. Martin


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM2K Main Sail Furling Motor Act 2

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Hi Don,
I have complete sympathy with you and wish you the absolute best of luck on your quest for a 12v outhaul motor. I am looking for a 24v mainsail furling motor. If anyone has had recent experience with this please let me know. 
Chuck 
SM #388

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 5:12 PM donald patterson donaldpatterson533@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Based on my telephone call to Amel last week they are not available.  If you find a source would you please provide it to me.


Don Patterson


On Jan 31, 2019, at 3:36 PM, clacey9@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi All,

I looked for my earlier post regarding my mainsail furling motor but could not find it to tag onto. As you might remember mine cease to work and thanks for all the responses on what to look for. It was not the gearbox but the motor. It had water in the white plastic housing and upon opening it up there was corrosion and a cracked in half magnet. DOA? If so I thought I remembering someone ordering furling motors directly as not to incur Amel markup. Am I wrong on this and are they the only source? If so that is fine (I guess). Any suggestions for speediest fix would be appreciated.


Chuck

Joy SM #388

St. Martin


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Furler motors & Headsail - Santorin

JOHN HAYES
 

Hi Don

I’m dealing with similar problems and have 2 motors with a company in Petone near Wellington 

I’m on my boat and in and out of cover

If you are in NZ as seems and to avoid cluttering others inboxes try calling me on 021546072 or an email to johnhayes862@... early next week and I’ll let you know how good the fellow is.  

Seems good but not really sure

Best John


On 31/01/2019, at 5:04 PM, donald patterson donaldpatterson533@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

The boom out haul motor has failed.  I talked to Ms. Maud at Amel. She advised me that Amel does not have replacement available for my 1987 Amel Mango.  Do you have any suggestions as to a source for a replacement or a company that rebuilds the 12 volt motors?


Don Patterson


On Jan 28, 2019, at 8:48 PM, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi John.

I started a new topic for you as you had buried your post in a thread about insurance which is quite confusing.


It may be more helpful if you would describe what problem you have that suggests you want to replace your original furler motors, or are you looking for spares, or what?  Usually, the reduction gears are the problem, not the motors and if you tell us bit more about your problem we may be able to offer more helpful suggestions.  As to your headsail, again, some more information about what you want to do would help you to get more useful replies. Have you approached a sailmaker about this and have a question, or what?


Best regards,

Craig Briggs, SN68 - Sangaris, Ft Pierce, Florida


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Happy new year one and all

Anyone out there replaced the original furler motors in past and head sail on a Santorini and if so be really great full to learn the name and spec of replacement units

Best 

John Hayes 
NGA Waka
SN 41

New Zealand


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM2K Main Sail Furling Motor Act 2

Donald Patterson
 

Based on my telephone call to Amel last week they are not available.  If you find a source would you please provide it to me.

Don Patterson


On Jan 31, 2019, at 3:36 PM, clacey9@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi All,

I looked for my earlier post regarding my mainsail furling motor but could not find it to tag onto. As you might remember mine cease to work and thanks for all the responses on what to look for. It was not the gearbox but the motor. It had water in the white plastic housing and upon opening it up there was corrosion and a cracked in half magnet. DOA? If so I thought I remembering someone ordering furling motors directly as not to incur Amel markup. Am I wrong on this and are they the only source? If so that is fine (I guess). Any suggestions for speediest fix would be appreciated.


Chuck

Joy SM #388

St. Martin


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Furler motors & Headsail - Santorin

Donald Patterson
 

I have to one company but they were not familiar with the four configuration.  Would know of a company that has rebuilt these motors?

Don Patterson


On Jan 31, 2019, at 12:07 AM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Most electric motors can be refurbished by companies that work on electric motors all over the world. They are not complex beasts and often the fixes are quite simple. I would try to locate a "motor rewinder" or repairer to take a look at it, it is more than likely repairable

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 


SM2K Main Sail Furling Motor Act 2

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Hi All,

I looked for my earlier post regarding my mainsail furling motor but could not find it to tag onto. As you might remember mine cease to work and thanks for all the responses on what to look for. It was not the gearbox but the motor. It had water in the white plastic housing and upon opening it up there was corrosion and a cracked in half magnet. DOA? If so I thought I remembering someone ordering furling motors directly as not to incur Amel markup. Am I wrong on this and are they the only source? If so that is fine (I guess). Any suggestions for speediest fix would be appreciated.


Chuck

Joy SM #388

St. Martin


Mainsail Motor Covers

oceanhobo@...
 

I can’t find the reference number for the Plastimo covers used on the mainsail furling and outhaul motors. I recall it was posted here some 2 years ago. Can anyone help?


Mainsail Motor Cover

oceanhobo@...
 

I can’t find the reference number for the Plastimo covers used on the mainsail furling and outhaul motors. I recall it was posted here some 2 years ago. Can anyone help?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Furler motors & Headsail - Santorin

Alan Leslie
 

Most electric motors can be refurbished by companies that work on electric motors all over the world. They are not complex beasts and often the fixes are quite simple. I would try to locate a "motor rewinder" or repairer to take a look at it, it is more than likely repairable
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries in Caribbean

Donald Patterson
 

It takes about 2 to3 weeks depending when you place the order.


On Jan 23, 2019, at 6:43 AM, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi folks
My service batteries seem to be on the way out.
Does anyone know where batteries can be purchased economical in the Caribbean chain?
Currently in Grenada where they seem expensive and so wondering about delaying the replacement till we get somewhere else.
Any info most gratefully received
All the very best
Miles



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries in Caribbean

Donald Patterson
 

When I replace the service batteries I have them shipped to St. Lucia by Tropical shipping out of Florida.

I call Nationwide battery (1-914-527-4640).  Since I have expanded the service battery to 8 and I also use the same batteries as my engine starting batteries.  I order 10 Trojan T105 6 volt batteries.  The cost of the batteries and shipping is around $1,500.00 US dollars.  The clearance and transportation from Castries is around $150. US.


On Jan 23, 2019, at 6:43 AM, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi folks
My service batteries seem to be on the way out.
Does anyone know where batteries can be purchased economical in the Caribbean chain?
Currently in Grenada where they seem expensive and so wondering about delaying the replacement till we get somewhere else.
Any info most gratefully received
All the very best
Miles



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propeler shaft

Donald Patterson
 

It is not difficult to do!  You need to be on the hard and have access to a puller and an acetylene torch.  I heat the area of the propeller that that slips on the shaft (not the shaft).  Once it is hot I use a spray bottle to spray water on the end of the propeller ( this sound strange) but the water is sucked into the hub of the propeller and breaks up any corrosion between the hub and shaft.  I several times and then I put the puller on with tension and heat the hub again.  I usually use a breaker bar on the puller bolt after heating.  I have not experience a failure.

One further note when you reinstall the shaft make sure you dimple the shaft where the locking bolts secure the shaft to the transmission and make sure you use a locking wire.

Based on personal experience I also a zine on the interior portion of the shaft ahead of the stuffing box about 5 inches ahead of the box.  If you have a failure at the transmission connection (which I did experience) it is an easy fix.  Hope this helps.




On Jan 29, 2019, at 7:34 AM, maggouilloux maggouilloux@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning,


I'm the owner from Masim's, a Mango from 1988.

I'have a problem with my propeler shaft and my propeler. I have To change them. Maybe somebody on the Amel group can help me : what are the difficulties ? and maybe somebody knows the reference of the Mango's propeler. 

We are actually in Panama. 

Thanks a lot

Eric 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Furler motors & Headsail - Santorin

Donald Patterson
 

The boom out haul motor has failed.  I talked to Ms. Maud at Amel. She advised me that Amel does not have replacement available for my 1987 Amel Mango.  Do you have any suggestions as to a source for a replacement or a company that rebuilds the 12 volt motors?

Don Patterson


On Jan 28, 2019, at 8:48 PM, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi John.

I started a new topic for you as you had buried your post in a thread about insurance which is quite confusing.


It may be more helpful if you would describe what problem you have that suggests you want to replace your original furler motors, or are you looking for spares, or what?  Usually, the reduction gears are the problem, not the motors and if you tell us bit more about your problem we may be able to offer more helpful suggestions.  As to your headsail, again, some more information about what you want to do would help you to get more useful replies. Have you approached a sailmaker about this and have a question, or what?


Best regards,

Craig Briggs, SN68 - Sangaris, Ft Pierce, Florida


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Happy new year one and all

Anyone out there replaced the original furler motors in past and head sail on a Santorini and if so be really great full to learn the name and spec of replacement units

Best 

John Hayes 
NGA Waka
SN 41

New Zealand


Re: Ping pong ball valve?

paul.cooper74@...
 

Interesting that Porter has a ping pong ball on his A54, too.  So it is a relatively recent thing, clearly a French thing (the PVC fitting containing the ball says, "FRANCE" on it), but is it an Amel thing?  And is it a necessary thing?


Re: Ping pong ball valve?

paul.cooper74@...
 

Yes, seems like a non-return valve, but why would there be an issue with back flow towards the washer?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries in Caribbean

Alan Leslie
 

We 12 x 6V AGM batteries in our house bank and one 12v AGM battery as the starting battery.
AGM batteries as I understand it, can be used as both start and deepcycle. We have had this setup for nearly 5 years now without problems. 
One thing we did do on the house bank was to install battery balancers to ensure each battery in the bank gets fully charged. Because of small differences in internal resistance, with 4 6v batteries in a series chain charged as a  24v system, the voltage across each battery will be different and this will mean that some batteries are continually undercharged...and they die. 
The same applies to 2 x 12V batteries in series but perhaps not so critical. If you have a 2 x 12v system I would suggest at least tying the middle + -  links together in each set of 2 x 12. and best, do that and install a battery balancer to keep that mid voltage at exactly half whatever the charging voltage happens to be. 
AGM batteries are also virtually maintenance free and have a higher charge acceptance rate than flooded.

Cheers
Alan
SV Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries in Caribbean

 

Marine Warehouse might be an answer jonathan"at"marinewarehouse.net

Best,

Bill Rouse
Amel School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 3:16 PM sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

My batteries are shot and I have only been able to find Dual purpose AGMs ,here in Martinique,and that was not easy,slim pickings. Question, Is dual much less desirable than dedicated deep cell,which I would prefer,if only they were available.
Thank You,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries in Caribbean

Patrick McAneny
 

My batteries are shot and I have only been able to find Dual purpose AGMs ,here in Martinique,and that was not easy,slim pickings. Question, Is dual much less desirable than dedicated deep cell,which I would prefer,if only they were available.
Thank You,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ping pong ball valve?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Sounds like it is an innovative low cost non return valve.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 31 January 2019 at 09:28 "Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We also have the ping pong ball!


Porter
a54-152

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Jan 30, 2019, at 12:51 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Paul,

 

Sorry I can’t help but wanted to say this made me laugh hard. This has to be the funniest post to make the forum. Cheers!

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 1:31 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ping pong ball valve?

 

 

Very strange.  The T-fitting where the drain hose from the washing machine T's into the hose under the floor running to the bilge broke.  I removed the fitting--a gray plastic T with a white PVC fitting glued on the 
T part going towards the washer--and inside the white PVC fitting, which is sort of cup-shaped, was a ping pong ball!   Not a plumbing part, a REAL ping pong ball with the name of the big French sporting goods store, Decathlon, printed on it.  it appears to fit very nicely inside the PVC "cup", a bit loose-- perhaps some sort of one-way valve or flow decreasing device??  No way a ping pong ball could have gone through the wash.

 

Does anyone else have a ping pong ball in their plumbing?  Is there any need to regulate the drainage out of the washer or prevent back-flow, because if not I would just as soon replace it with a simple T, sans ping pong ball.  

 

What next?  Perhaps I will find a badminton birdie being use as a filter?

 

Paul

SM 238 "Maracuya"

Martinique

 


 

 


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ping pong ball valve?

Porter McRoberts
 

We also have the ping pong ball!

Porter
a54-152

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Jan 30, 2019, at 12:51 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Paul,

 

Sorry I can’t help but wanted to say this made me laugh hard. This has to be the funniest post to make the forum. Cheers!

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 1:31 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ping pong ball valve?

 

 

Very strange.  The T-fitting where the drain hose from the washing machine T's into the hose under the floor running to the bilge broke.  I removed the fitting--a gray plastic T with a white PVC fitting glued on the 
T part going towards the washer--and inside the white PVC fitting, which is sort of cup-shaped, was a ping pong ball!   Not a plumbing part, a REAL ping pong ball with the name of the big French sporting goods store, Decathlon, printed on it.  it appears to fit very nicely inside the PVC "cup", a bit loose-- perhaps some sort of one-way valve or flow decreasing device??  No way a ping pong ball could have gone through the wash.

 

Does anyone else have a ping pong ball in their plumbing?  Is there any need to regulate the drainage out of the washer or prevent back-flow, because if not I would just as soon replace it with a simple T, sans ping pong ball.  

 

What next?  Perhaps I will find a badminton birdie being use as a filter?

 

Paul

SM 238 "Maracuya"

Martinique