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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

Mark Erdos
 

Oooooh! Good idea. They can be a real bear to get off when needing replacement. Perhaps you should sell some to Amel J

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 3:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

 

 

Mark,


They are still available through Amel intermittently.  The ones that I am making for Cara will be made from 316 Stainless Steel vs. cast Aluminum so they will be stronger to start with and won't have the galvanic corrosion issues the Aluminum ones have.

 

Mark McGovern

SM #440 Cara

Deale, MD USA

 

 



---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Mark,

 

A couple of years ago, I purchased toe pulleys from Amel. Are they no longer available?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 11:27 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail) [1 Attachment]

 

 

We are making good progress on the pulley project.  Attached is a picture of a production prototype of one half of the pulley machined from 6061 Aluminum next to the original cast Aluminum pulley.  316 Stainless Steel material is on order as well as some new tooling for machining Stainless Steel since we mostly machine Aluminum.  I will have final pricing tomorrow.

 

Mark McGovern

SM #440 Cara

Deale, MD USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommendation for an SSB technician in Western Med

Joerg Esdorn
 

Thanks, Mark!!  What model would I get and where would I get it?  Joerg


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Head sail furling

Danny Simms
 

Hi Kent,
I haven't had to use it so can't answer the tension thing, but if you consider the posts on the  mainsail out-haul it would seem that more tension would help.Likewise the type of rope could be an issue. Ordinary polyester braid would be good for this application since stretch is not an issue. For tension I could imagine a few wraps on the idle winch and holding the tail in one hand while grinding on the other winch with the self tailer engaged would be the method but of course for me that is but a theory.
All the best for the new year. Are you still planning voyaging to the South Pacific?
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
Mangonui New Zealand 

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 03:49, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Yes, Danny, the line is crossed after it leaves the drum.  Do I have to keep a lot of pressure on both sides of the line while furling and unfurling?  When single-handing, cranking on one side, tailing on the other side, and tailing the sheet to get a reasonably tight furl leaves me one hand short.  Admittedly, I’ve only tried it a couple of times so I may not have figured out something obvious.  What’s the trick?

Thank you Duane, I’ll let you know what I find...hope that’s the problem!
Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM243



On Jan 3, 2019, at 3:10 AM, simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent, when you run the manual furling line do you cross it after it leaves the pulley on the forestay. If not you are losing a big part if the rope/ pulley contact friction.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 
Ocean Pearl

On 3/01/2019 08:12, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Kent,


Before you condemn the gearing inside the box, be sure that the drive pin in the furling drum is fully engaging in the drive plate that is mounted on top of the gearbox.  We had our drive plate blow apart a few years ago, and other people have had trouble with the hole rounding over and pushing the pin up.  That sounds like the more likely cause.

Having just had our furling gearbox apart for routine maintenance, I think it very unlikely that the gearing inside the gearbox is the problem.  Certainly possible, but unlikely given what you describe as symptoms.

For the manual furling line, we have 10mm double braid dacron.  That worked great for us on the two occasions we needed it.  I wonder if the StaySet might be too stiff?  7/16" would not be too big.

If you need this unit disassembled and looked at, you might try Nance and Underwood, riggers in Fort Lauderdale.  They know Amel's very well, and Roger Underwood has been a help when we have used him.  If you need a new drive plate, I know they can make one for you.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommendation for an SSB technician in Western Med

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi;

We had an intermittent VHF transmission/reception issue with our ICOM. We had several electronic techs look and non came up with an answer since it was intermittent and hard to duplicate.

We ran into a very old school tech in Malta that immediately diagnosed the issue to a failed filter INSIDE the VHF, replaced it for us and had it back on board in a day and charged us 50 euros for the entire effort.

It’s a day sail to Malta and they have other good services also.

If Malta is too far, we do have a contact in Licata Sicily as well that I found knowledgeable.

Let me know your preference and I will send you the contact information.

Mohammad and Aty
B&B KOKOMO
Amel 54 #099

 


From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 10:10 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommendation for an SSB technician in Western Med
 
 

Consider installing an in-line filter on the antenna cable toward the automatic antenna tuner between the radio and auto-tuner. This will make a world of difference.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 1:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommendation for an SSB technician in Western Med

 

 

My Amel 55 is on the hard in Marina di Ragusa and I'm trying to line up an SSB specialist who can look at my installation this spring/summer as I make my way west in the Med to Gibraltar.  I seem to have a lot of RFI from the alternator, Mastervolt chargers, Solar installation, refrigerator etc and I'm also thinking that the grounding isn't the best.  Anyone have a recommendation for someone in Sicily, East Coast of Sardinia, Barcelona, Valencia, Gibraltar or in between?  Many thanks in advance!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jib furler overhaul kit contents?

 

Bill, 

Mr. Vignando  bluewin.ch> can tell you exactly what is in the kit he made for Amel. Use Google translate to send him an email and include a photo of your Genoa Furler.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 10:51 AM greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Does anyone know what parts the "jib furler overhaul kit" includes?  Specifically, does it include the worm, and or the drive gear?


We have had no trouble sourcing everything else (seals and bearings) as industry standard parts.


Bill Kinney

Sm160, Harmonie

Hollywood, FL, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail) [1 Attachment]

 

Mark,

That prototype looks excellent. 

I recommend that all SM owners take advantage of you doing the hard work here. I will certainly refer all of my SM clients to you. Please keep me in the loop with final photos and cost. With your permission, I would like to add this to the Amel School book.

Great Job!

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 9:27 AM mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

We are making good progress on the pulley project.  Attached is a picture of a production prototype of one half of the pulley machined from 6061 Aluminum next to the original cast Aluminum pulley.  316 Stainless Steel material is on order as well as some new tooling for machining Stainless Steel since we mostly machine Aluminum.  I will have final pricing tomorrow.


Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Recommendation for an SSB technician in Western Med

Joerg Esdorn
 

My Amel 55 is on the hard in Marina di Ragusa and I'm trying to line up an SSB specialist who can look at my installation this spring/summer as I make my way west in the Med to Gibraltar.  I seem to have a lot of RFI from the alternator, Mastervolt chargers, Solar installation, refrigerator etc and I'm also thinking that the grounding isn't the best.  Anyone have a recommendation for someone in Sicily, East Coast of Sardinia, Barcelona, Valencia, Gibraltar or in between?  Many thanks in advance!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TMD22 Turbo

Mark Erdos
 

Bill,

 

Good info!!!

 

Does your client have a kit for the Yanmar 4JH4-HTE?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 11:37 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TMD22 Turbo

 

 

Steve,

 

Another Amel School client, who, BTW is in the turbo business researched this for a Super Maramu TMD-22 client and reported this information:

 

"Based on that, the best choices for your clients as I see them are:

1.  Buy a new replacement for $1544 ($1844 with a $300 refund when the send back their old turbo): http://www.invasionautoproducts.com/petrtbtu464.html

2.  Get a $350 rebuild:  http://gpopshop.com/services/rebuilding/

If it were me, I would most likely choose #3.  It's basically a brand new turbo for $295 and some elbow grease.  They just need to see if the wastegate works and that there is no damage to the exhaust and compressor housings after removal and cleaning."

 

I believe this is the best information available.

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  
http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

 

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 9:44 PM pandmdegroot@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

My TMD22 has a Garrett 466770-0006S turbo on it.  I purchased a new “cartridge”  (compressor/turbine and bearing block) for $300.  I’m waiting for the gaskets to arrive from Volvo, so I can’t tell you if it’s a success or not.  I could not find a complete “rebuild kit” on line anywhere. Feel free to contact me if you would like more supplier details on the cartridge supplier. They are in North Hollywood California.

 

Peter de Groot

La Querida SM207

Moss Landing, CA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommendation for an SSB technician in Western Med

Mark Erdos
 

Consider installing an in-line filter on the antenna cable toward the automatic antenna tuner between the radio and auto-tuner. This will make a world of difference.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 1:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommendation for an SSB technician in Western Med

 

 

My Amel 55 is on the hard in Marina di Ragusa and I'm trying to line up an SSB specialist who can look at my installation this spring/summer as I make my way west in the Med to Gibraltar.  I seem to have a lot of RFI from the alternator, Mastervolt chargers, Solar installation, refrigerator etc and I'm also thinking that the grounding isn't the best.  Anyone have a recommendation for someone in Sicily, East Coast of Sardinia, Barcelona, Valencia, Gibraltar or in between?  Many thanks in advance!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail) [1 Attachment]

Mark Erdos
 

Mark,

 

A couple of years ago, I purchased toe pulleys from Amel. Are they no longer available?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 11:27 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail) [1 Attachment]

 

 

We are making good progress on the pulley project.  Attached is a picture of a production prototype of one half of the pulley machined from 6061 Aluminum next to the original cast Aluminum pulley.  316 Stainless Steel material is on order as well as some new tooling for machining Stainless Steel since we mostly machine Aluminum.  I will have final pricing tomorrow.

 

Mark McGovern

SM #440 Cara

Deale, MD USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rough engine at idle

greatketch@...
 

Miles,

I don't have any help to add to what you already have been given that is specific to your problem, but just a couple of pieces of general advice:

First, Do not mess with any of the stops on the injection pump.  Adjusting these is a complex and fussy job, and unless they have obviously moved, they are not going to be the source of the issue.

Second,  The throttle cable should have enough "throw" that the throttle arm on the injection pump  comes to rest on its stop when fully pulled to "slow".  If it does not, adjusting the throttle cable is certainly something easy and low risk.

Last, if the engine mounts are "old" (15-20 years?) they probably are due for replacement anyway.  The do wear out and replacing them is a scheduled maintenance item.

Good luck with sorting out your issue!

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, FL, USA


Jib furler overhaul kit contents?

greatketch@...
 

Does anyone know what parts the "jib furler overhaul kit" includes?  Specifically, does it include the worm, and or the drive gear?


We have had no trouble sourcing everything else (seals and bearings) as industry standard parts.


Bill Kinney

Sm160, Harmonie

Hollywood, FL, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rough engine at idle

smiles bernard
 

Thanks so much for the help guys.
 
Joel - good point I’ve been getting lazy with the signature!

I’ve tried to rock the engine to test the mounts but it does not rock at all easily. The mounts seem/look ok too to my untrained eye. 

I’ll bleed again and perhaps also spin on some new fuel filters for good measure. 

I was also looking at the throttle cable which is slack on neutral so I could adjust that a little and also a ‘stop’ position screw it has that is currently set so that is does nothing. It looks as if this should be setup to prevent the throttle rocker arm from rocking back beyond a set position. I’m keen not to just crank the throttle cable though and mask a bigger issue but perhaps at least till I get to Martinique (or perhaps Grenada)

Thanks Bill for Dediers contact details. I’ll try him and let the group know if he is still around. 

All the very best

Miles
1986 Maramu 46 #162
Currently Barbados 🇧🇧 



On 3 Jan 2019, at 11:23, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I am fairly sure (not certain) that your engine has two-stage injectors...one stage for less than about 1600-1800 and the other for higher RPM. Most of these two-stage injectors I have seen fail in the low range first. Several months ago I could find nobody in le Marin to test injectors or service them. I agree that Dedier is a good diesel mechanic and knows his way around Amels. I am not sure if he is still there. The number I have is +596 696 81 57 22. 

Good luck.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 12:39 PM smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello fellow amelians
In the canaries our engine purred nicely
When we arrived in the Cape Verde’s it was a little rough on idle
On first running since the roughish Atlantic crossing (40-45kts during last 5 days) its even rougher still
I have a Perkins m65 with around 3k hours
It starts on the button but vibrates lots until the revs are increased.
Would be great to hear thoughts on any simple things I could try. I don’t think I can adjust the idle speed on the engine. Perhaps I could via the throttle cable but don’t want to make matters worse.
I’ve bled the fuel

I’m currently in Barbados where I can’t seem to find a diesel mechanic
Next stop Martinique where I’m sure I’ll find good professional
We ran the prop shaft alternator on the long crossing for 2 weeks straight. I started to notice that in the higher winds towards the end of the trip the noise from the rotating prop would change to a less regular sound at speed - almost a knocking sound
I think perhaps the prop shaft alignment needs adjusting. Perhaps the two issues are related although if so I’d imagine the vibrations to get worse with increased revs rather than get better

Any thoughts most appreciated and any pointers to good mechanics in Martinique would be great too

All the very best

Miles



Re: Rough engine at idle

Ian Park
 

Miles
Just a thought. Have you tried removing the belt from the prop shaft alternator. It still turns even when switched off (just no resistance). That might eliminate the alternator as a cause (or otherwise).
Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Rubber caps for Lofrans [10 Attachments]

svsunnyside
 

Hi Gerhard
I can confirm that all info reported on your e-m are correct.
Next week I will be on board and I will install two switches bought at ebay Germany (corresponding to your last line but with different part #) . 
I will post the results .

On Sunday, 30 December 2018, 09:16:10 GMT-3, carcodespam@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Hi Dave,
the original foot switches are mounted on deck, same as at my Sharki #60, see picture FootSwitch5.jpg.
You can buy such switches e.g. here: https://www.svb.de/de/lofrans-fussschalter-taster.html
They are available in black or red. See pics.
Later on Amel has integrated the switches into the windlass, see pics FootSwitch3.png + FootSwitch4.png.
However the power circuit is always the same, see pic FootSwitch6.png for all Lofrans windlasses.
As far as I know all people with buildin switches to the windlass uses these types as spare parts:

Gerhard
Sharki #60


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TMD22 Turbo

 

Steve,

Another Amel School client, who, BTW is in the turbo business researched this for a Super Maramu TMD-22 client and reported this information:

"Based on that, the best choices for your clients as I see them are:
1.  Buy a new replacement for $1544 ($1844 with a $300 refund when the send back their old turbo): http://www.invasionautoproducts.com/petrtbtu464.html
If it were me, I would most likely choose #3.  It's basically a brand new turbo for $295 and some elbow grease.  They just need to see if the wastegate works and that there is no damage to the exhaust and compressor housings after removal and cleaning."

I believe this is the best information available.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 9:44 PM pandmdegroot@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

My TMD22 has a Garrett 466770-0006S turbo on it.  I purchased a new “cartridge”  (compressor/turbine and bearing block) for $300.  I’m waiting for the gaskets to arrive from Volvo, so I can’t tell you if it’s a success or not.  I could not find a complete “rebuild kit” on line anywhere. Feel free to contact me if you would like more supplier details on the cartridge supplier. They are in North Hollywood California.

 

Peter de Groot

La Querida SM207

Moss Landing, CA


Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

mfmcgovern@...
 

We are making good progress on the pulley project.  Attached is a picture of a production prototype of one half of the pulley machined from 6061 Aluminum next to the original cast Aluminum pulley.  316 Stainless Steel material is on order as well as some new tooling for machining Stainless Steel since we mostly machine Aluminum.  I will have final pricing tomorrow.

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rough engine at idle

 

I am fairly sure (not certain) that your engine has two-stage injectors...one stage for less than about 1600-1800 and the other for higher RPM. Most of these two-stage injectors I have seen fail in the low range first. Several months ago I could find nobody in le Marin to test injectors or service them. I agree that Dedier is a good diesel mechanic and knows his way around Amels. I am not sure if he is still there. The number I have is +596 696 81 57 22. 

Good luck.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 12:39 PM smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello fellow amelians
In the canaries our engine purred nicely
When we arrived in the Cape Verde’s it was a little rough on idle
On first running since the roughish Atlantic crossing (40-45kts during last 5 days) its even rougher still
I have a Perkins m65 with around 3k hours
It starts on the button but vibrates lots until the revs are increased.
Would be great to hear thoughts on any simple things I could try. I don’t think I can adjust the idle speed on the engine. Perhaps I could via the throttle cable but don’t want to make matters worse.
I’ve bled the fuel

I’m currently in Barbados where I can’t seem to find a diesel mechanic
Next stop Martinique where I’m sure I’ll find good professional
We ran the prop shaft alternator on the long crossing for 2 weeks straight. I started to notice that in the higher winds towards the end of the trip the noise from the rotating prop would change to a less regular sound at speed - almost a knocking sound
I think perhaps the prop shaft alignment needs adjusting. Perhaps the two issues are related although if so I’d imagine the vibrations to get worse with increased revs rather than get better

Any thoughts most appreciated and any pointers to good mechanics in Martinique would be great too

All the very best

Miles



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Head sail furling

 

Kent.

Emergency Furler:
Regarding the emergency genoa furling operation, it should work if you have crossed the leaves to the deck blocks which are used for the "foreguy" for the downwind poles. Of course, the line needs to be tight. If the 3/8” (10mm) StaSet slips in the drum when tight, possibly the StaSet is suffering from the same issue as all of the other lines out there. Most 10mm lines made today will compress to 7mm when pinching with your fingers. This is the primary reason we have switched from 10mm to 12mm for the main outhaul. Take a look at the line on the drum when it is tight. It should be obvious when you see the line go to the bottom of the sheave that the line is too small because of this compression issue. I believe that all rope manufacturers have taken guts out of line in the last 10-20 years and 10mm isn't what it used to be. Unless you are using line with an Anderson Line Tender (no longer made), the emergency genoa furler on a SM, or the genoa traveler adjustment blocks, you probably wouldn't notice that some of the guts of your line was left out by the manufacturer.  It's funny, but unless you own an Amel, you would probably never know that the line manufacturers have taken material out of lines!

SM2k Genoa Furler Gearbox:
A French company owned by a Mr. Vignando’s  made the Genoa furler for Amel. The company is now closed, and Mr. Vignando is retired. But he had several overhaul service kits for SM2000 genoa furler. An Amel School Client recently purchased a service kit  for 750 CHF which converts to 667 Euro or $758USD. The problem is, Mr. Vignando speaks only French, so you should contact him in French language. Mr. Vignando:  a.vignando"at"bluewin.ch, and, of course, a photo will go a long way in translating what you want.

Nance and Underwood is a Preferred OEM vendor for Amel School Clients, offering discounts to you as a client. Their contact information is;
Nance and Underwood
262 SW 33rd ST, Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33315
954-764-6001 Toll Free 800-328-9782
Fax 954-764-5977
For more information on Nance & Underwood and their products and discounts go to www.amelschool.com > CLIENT ACCESS (with your password) >
then click on DISCOUNTS. You could also try another preferred dealer MACK Sails and Rigging in Ft Lauderdale. You will see their discount information
and contact information when you login above.

I would not hesitate long on buying the overhaul service kit...it's going to be a hassle, but I believe that Swiss guy has the only ones in existence.

I hope this helps you. Let me know if you need more information.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 12:41 PM karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 


Hi all, Happy 2019!!!
We finally got away from the Chesapeake just before Christmas. Now in Lake Worth to visit friends.

Our jib furler failed to hold while shortening sail in 20kts of wind. The motor turns but sounds like the gears are grinding. After a few turns it gives and the sail unfurls. I just bought a new line for manually furling, 150’ of 3/8” StaSet. It doesn’t hold the sail furled part way, the line slips in the drum.

We managed to get it furled (loosely) completely, by augmenting the manual furling line with short bursts of the motor.

I think the gears are stripped or out of alignment. Does anyone know of a place in Palm Beach or Ft Lauderdale that might be able to do repairs? If not, will 7/16” line hold better on the furling drum until we can get to Amel Caraibes? Any other suggestions or thoughts?
I don’t want to disassemble the gearbox unless I’m pretty sure I can complete repairs before heading out again.

Thanks in advance for any help,
Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM 243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Head sail furling

karkauai
 

Yes, Danny, the line is crossed after it leaves the drum.  Do I have to keep a lot of pressure on both sides of the line while furling and unfurling?  When single-handing, cranking on one side, tailing on the other side, and tailing the sheet to get a reasonably tight furl leaves me one hand short.  Admittedly, I’ve only tried it a couple of times so I may not have figured out something obvious.  What’s the trick?

Thank you Duane, I’ll let you know what I find...hope that’s the problem!
Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM243



On Jan 3, 2019, at 3:10 AM, simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent, when you run the manual furling line do you cross it after it leaves the pulley on the forestay. If not you are losing a big part if the rope/ pulley contact friction.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 
Ocean Pearl

On 3/01/2019 08:12, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Kent,


Before you condemn the gearing inside the box, be sure that the drive pin in the furling drum is fully engaging in the drive plate that is mounted on top of the gearbox.  We had our drive plate blow apart a few years ago, and other people have had trouble with the hole rounding over and pushing the pin up.  That sounds like the more likely cause.

Having just had our furling gearbox apart for routine maintenance, I think it very unlikely that the gearing inside the gearbox is the problem.  Certainly possible, but unlikely given what you describe as symptoms.

For the manual furling line, we have 10mm double braid dacron.  That worked great for us on the two occasions we needed it.  I wonder if the StaySet might be too stiff?  7/16" would not be too big.

If you need this unit disassembled and looked at, you might try Nance and Underwood, riggers in Fort Lauderdale.  They know Amel's very well, and Roger Underwood has been a help when we have used him.  If you need a new drive plate, I know they can make one for you.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA