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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

eric freedman
 

Hi Bill.

You forgot me.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 11:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

 

 

Update

 

I have received some level of interest from 15 owners. I was hoping for more interest in a Caribbean Rally. Is there anyone else? I am not aking for a commitment, just Interest. Here is the list that I have so far:

Arno Luijten 

SV Luna A54-121

Miles Bidwell 

Ladybug SM 216

Kent & Iris Robertson

Kristy SM 243

John Clark 

Annie SM 37

Pat & Diane

SM Shenanigans SM 123

Alex Paquin 

SIMPATICO Maramu #94

Colin Streeter

Island Pearl SM 332

Donald Patterson 

?Mango?

Kim and Chuck 

Joy SM 388

Paul and Kerstin

Kerpa SM 259

Gary Wells

Adagio SM 209

Duane & Peg

Wanderer, SM 477

Derick Gates

Brava SM 400

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  
http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

 

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 5:56 PM derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I am on Brava in Le Marin, Martinique getting some maintenance done. By mid March I expect to start traveling North to Antigua, and by late April set off for the Azores and then Gibraltar. The rally sounds like a great idea.

Derick Gates
SM2K #400 Brava


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Mark Pitt
 

Bill,

I am interested.

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM #419, Martinique 



On Jan 24, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Update

I have received some level of interest from 15 owners. I was hoping for more interest in a Caribbean Rally. Is there anyone else? I am not aking for a commitment, just Interest. Here is the list that I have so far:
Arno Luijten  SV Luna A54-121
Miles Bidwell  Ladybug SM 216
Kent & Iris Robertson Kristy SM 243
John Clark  Annie SM 37
Pat & Diane SM Shenanigans SM 123
Alex Paquin  SIMPATICO Maramu #94
Colin Streeter Island Pearl SM 332
Donald Patterson  ?Mango?
Kim and Chuck  Joy SM 388
Paul and Kerstin Kerpa SM 259
Gary Wells Adagio SM 209
Duane & Peg Wanderer, SM 477
Derick Gates Brava SM 400

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 5:56 PM derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I am on Brava in Le Marin, Martinique getting some maintenance done. By mid March I expect to start traveling North to Antigua, and by late April set off for the Azores and then Gibraltar. The rally sounds like a great idea.

Derick Gates
SM2K #400 Brava


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

 

Update

I have received some level of interest from 15 owners. I was hoping for more interest in a Caribbean Rally. Is there anyone else? I am not aking for a commitment, just Interest. Here is the list that I have so far:
Arno Luijten  SV Luna A54-121
Miles Bidwell  Ladybug SM 216
Kent & Iris Robertson Kristy SM 243
John Clark  Annie SM 37
Pat & Diane SM Shenanigans SM 123
Alex Paquin  SIMPATICO Maramu #94
Colin Streeter Island Pearl SM 332
Donald Patterson  ?Mango?
Kim and Chuck  Joy SM 388
Paul and Kerstin Kerpa SM 259
Gary Wells Adagio SM 209
Duane & Peg Wanderer, SM 477
Derick Gates Brava SM 400

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 5:56 PM derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I am on Brava in Le Marin, Martinique getting some maintenance done. By mid March I expect to start traveling North to Antigua, and by late April set off for the Azores and then Gibraltar. The rally sounds like a great idea.

Derick Gates
SM2K #400 Brava


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Masse - and Masse + lights

 

It would work...If you are going to go to the trouble of installing a switch, install a double pole switch and turn off both positive and negative. As you know there is better than a 95% chance the offending item is one of the macerator pumps. I am guessing that you might get a 2-6 months more  life.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 6:36 PM derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I have been diligently checking the Masse- and + lights in the companionway. Over the past 5 years when one of the lights go on (usually the Masse - ) I go and disconnect the power lines to the forward or aft head and sure enough, the leak of current to ground stops and I replace that Jabsco pump. Recently the Masse light did not go out until I had unplugged both the heads at the same time, indicating to me that both the head pumps were leaking to ground.

It occurs to me that instead of replacing the pump, I could just install a toggle switch to the offending brown or blue wire, so that I can turn the circuit on when anyone uses the head, and turn it off in th interim. Then I could continue to use the offending pump until it does a natural death.

Am I fooling myself or would installing that switch stop the current leakage to the Amel bonding system?

Derick Gates
SM2K #400 Brava


Masse - and Masse + lights

Derick Gates
 
Edited

I have been diligently checking the Masse- and + lights in the companionway. Over the past 5 years when one of the lights go on (usually the Masse - ) I go and disconnect the power lines to the forward or aft head and sure enough, the leak of current to ground stops and I replace that Jabsco pump. Recently the Masse light did not go out until I had unplugged both the heads at the same time, indicating to me that both the head pumps were leaking to ground.

It occurs to me that instead of replacing the pump, I could just install a toggle switch to the offending brown or blue wire, so that I can turn the circuit on when anyone uses the head, and turn it off in the interim. Then I could continue to use the offending pump until it dies a natural death.

Am I fooling myself or would installing that switch stop the current leakage to the Amel bonding system?

Derick Gates
SM2K #400 Brava


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Batteries

karkauai
 

Hi Mark & Tom,
Thanks for your thoughts.
To answer your questions:

I have battery voltage monitors on my solar panels as well as having checked with my multimeter, the voltages appear correct. I am measuring under load of refrigeration and know I will get slightly lower readings.
I’ve tested them individually with my electronic tester and they all appear to be ok.

I just heard back from Crown Battery’s tech department.  He was very interested in the issue and asked a million questions about my systems and charging regimen.  He corrected me and said these batteries are actually 130AHr capacity.  So I have a 520AHr house bank
.
I used the charging recommendations I got from the same tech department  when I got the batteries...28v abs, 26.4v float, 29.4v equalize.  This engineer says I should be using 29v Abs, 27v float, and 31v equalize, and that I should equalize for 3 hours at least once a month.

It’s hard to know what’s right when I get two regimens from the same department, but I think this latest recommendation will probably solve the problem.

My solar panel regulators ( one for each of three pairs) have an equalization cycle that happens automatically, so I set it at 29v to avoid damaging equipment rated for 24-30v.  I will have to turn off all equipment when I equalize with the Victron Skylla charger set at 31v for 3 hours.

I’ll try this and report back what happens.

Kent & Iris
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Jan 24, 2019, at 10:45 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

 

Your math is correct and you should be reading slightly higher voltage reads than you are getting.

 

A couple of thoughts:

 

Are you depending solely on the meter in the panel to monitor the batteries? If so, the meter may be out of adjustment of failing. Did you adjust the Peukert exponent when installing the new battery bank?

 

The best way to check the voltage of the bank is to disconnect the bank for a while by turning off the red handle switches, check the voltage with a good quality meter from the main studs in the battery well.

Do you have any load on the batteries when checking the voltage. A load such as a refrigerator running will cause lower voltage reads.

 

Have you load tested each battery to determine if you were sold a faulty or defective battery?

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 11:50 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Batteries in Caribbean

 

 

I have a battery issue too, that I’d like opinions about.

I just bought 8 new series 31 120 AHr deep cycle marine batteries in August (while in Maryland). They were kept fully charged with solar before we headed S in late Dec. After only a month, they are not acting like 120 AHr batteries.. They stay charged fully during the day with solar (900watts) but at night they discharge to ~24.7V and the monitor says I’ve only used ~45AHrs. I reset the monitor at dusk when the solar is no longer charging. 24.7V should be about 70% of capacity. That is where I’d like to set my minimum voltage before recharging, in the interest of battery life. But my 480 AHr battery bank shouldn’t get there until I’ve used 30% of capacity, which would be about 160 AHrs.

Am I thinking correctly about that?

I checked the batteries which consistently showed low specific gravity of 1..225 to 1.250 (in the”Fair” range). This didn’t change appreciably after running two equalization cycles with my Victron Skylla charger. It does seem that the batteries are a bit better in that they are now at about 24.8 V just before sunrise.

What do you think is going on here? Should I just keep running equalization cycles until the SG gets back to normal?

Thanks for any advice, thoughts, etc in advance.

Kent & Iris
SM 243
Kristy
Still in Ft Lauderdale (We’re calling it Hotel California...you can check out but you can never leave.)


Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Derick Gates
 

I am on Brava in Le Marin, Martinique getting some maintenance done. By mid March I expect to start traveling North to Antigua, and by late April set off for the Azores and then Gibraltar. The rally sounds like a great idea.

Derick Gates
SM2K #400 Brava


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Batteries in Caribbean

Thomas Peacock
 

Agree with Mark’s excellent advice. However, some battery load testers may show a poor rating on deep cycle batteries, as they are designed primarily for starter batteries. They may claim to be good for deep cycle, but take that claim with a grain of salt. I would certainly isolate each battery and check individual voltages.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Awesome advice, thanks Mark.

We have been off-line for so long on this last 5700nm crossing from Cape Town  so had not yet got time to research the ABC's. 

We joined Y Insurance this year who have incredibly good rates compared to Panteanius & Velos, and also include "in water" hurricane cover in the ABC's only hence our decision to go there.

Cheers 
Colin & Lauren Streeter
Prickly Bay Marina

Ps...All who meet us....Please don't disown or mock us when you see our "off-pink" boat stripe and rub rail!!  We remain good Amelians... and promise to fix it at the next haulout..... the painter in Durban got the  "Amel 54 Dessert Sand"  colour we love completely wrong .....just when a weather window opened up to bolt around to Cape Town..... So we decided to take the weather gap and fix the colour at next haulout.


On 22 Jan. 2019 16:27, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Colin,

 

Also consider an extended stay in Aruba during hurricane season. Curacao, not so much. You will love the diving and snorkeling in Bonaire, it is really first rate. If you opt to go to Aruba, the Renaissance marina is right downtown in the heart of everything and have reasonable monthly rates. You will need to book way ahead since due to many people’s insurances companies making changes, the ABC’s are becoming a destination for those wanting to stay in the Caribbean.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 3:17 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

 

 

Island Pearl II just arrived in Caribbean early this morning from Brisbane, Australia via Asia, most Indian Ocean Islands, South Atlantic Islands and Brazil.

 

In Prickly Bay now, then a slow trip up the Windward then Leewards before BVI's & US BVI's etc then across to Bonaire in late May/June for Hurricane season.

 

Would love to participate if the dates work out, and/or say HI to any other Amel owners as we travel the Caribbean this season. If you see us anchored near you feel free to come over for a cold beer. We love Amel talk!

 

Cheers

Colin

 

 

 

On Tue, 22 Jan. 2019, 13:01 alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:

 

Hello Bill,

I think it is a great idea, our Maramu is based in Venezuela, if we get and idea of the overall plan with dates included, we would seriously consider participating. Also the cost would be an important factor, in my opinion. Thanks for promoting such an activity. Maybe we can convince other Amel owners here to participate.

Alex Paquin

SIMPATICO

Maramu #94, 1981



FOR SALE FURUNO system

Teun BAAS
 

I have for sale the complete (AMEL installed on 2009 AMEL 54) FURUNO navigation system: including radar, large monitors for nav station as well as in cockpit etc.

All in good working condition.

 

System/equipment is in NEW CALEDONIA; I am currently in USA.

 

If interested pls send Email to: teun at amelit dot net

 

 

Best Regards Teun

Jan 24, 2019   15:06:26

 

 

 

 


Insurance

Mark Erdos
 

(changed name of thread)

 

 

Hi Colin,

 

Interesting about insurance. I have spent the past couple of months shopping for insurance to get us through the Panama canal and across the S. Pacific. I have it narrowed down to Y-Yacht (UK), Novamar (USA) and Top Sail (UK) – We currently have Pantaenius and it is going to be cost prohibitive for us to continue with them. If we decide to stay in the Caribbean, the Pantaenius requirements a virtually impossible to adhere to. Either way we need to change.

 

When you say “Y Insurance” do you mean Y-Yacht?

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 6:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

 

 

Awesome advice, thanks Mark.

 

We have been off-line for so long on this last 5700nm crossing from Cape Town  so had not yet got time to research the ABC's. 

 

We joined Y Insurance this year who have incredibly good rates compared to Panteanius & Velos, and also include "in water" hurricane cover in the ABC's only hence our decision to go there.

 

Cheers 

Colin & Lauren Streeter

Prickly Bay Marina

 

Ps...All who meet us....Please don't disown or mock us when you see our "off-pink" boat stripe and rub rail!!  We remain good Amelians... and promise to fix it at the next haulout...... the painter in Durban got the  "Amel 54 Dessert Sand"  colour we love completely wrong .....just when a weather window opened up to bolt around to Cape Town..... So we decided to take the weather gap and fix the colour at next haulout.

 

 

On 22 Jan.. 2019 16:27, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Colin,

 

Also consider an extended stay in Aruba during hurricane season. Curacao, not so much. You will love the diving and snorkeling in Bonaire, it is really first rate. If you opt to go to Aruba, the Renaissance marina is right downtown in the heart of everything and have reasonable monthly rates. You will need to book way ahead since due to many people’s insurances companies making changes, the ABC’s are becoming a destination for those wanting to stay in the Caribbean.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 3:17 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

 

 

Island Pearl II just arrived in Caribbean early this morning from Brisbane, Australia via Asia, most Indian Ocean Islands, South Atlantic Islands and Brazil.

 

In Prickly Bay now, then a slow trip up the Windward then Leewards before BVI's & US BVI's etc then across to Bonaire in late May/June for Hurricane season.

 

Would love to participate if the dates work out, and/or say HI to any other Amel owners as we travel the Caribbean this season. If you see us anchored near you feel free to come over for a cold beer. We love Amel talk!

 

Cheers

Colin

 

 

 

On Tue, 22 Jan. 2019, 13:01 alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:

 

Hello Bill,

I think it is a great idea, our Maramu is based in Venezuela, if we get and idea of the overall plan with dates included, we would seriously consider participating. Also the cost would be an important factor, in my opinion. Thanks for promoting such an activity. Maybe we can convince other Amel owners here to participate.

Alex Paquin

SIMPATICO

Maramu #94, 1981

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries in Caribbean

Patrick McAneny
 

Today I checked on the price in Le Marine for 12v deep cycle at a battery warehouse,$328 about double of in the states.
Hope this helps,I will be nursing my batteries til I get home.
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Perfect in appearance aft deck cushions

Porter McRoberts
 

Hello Amelians.
We have decided to give away our Amel brand aft cabin cushions. We simply need the space. Would anyone be interested?
We’re in Vista Mar Marina, Panama

Thank you

Porter McRoberts
A54-152 S/V IBIS

Excuse the errors.
Sent from my IPhone
Www.fouribis.com


FOR SALE Amel Super Maramu 2000

Niklas Glöggler
 

Hello
My Amel Super Maramu 2000 #333 year 2001 is for sale.

Location Le Marin Martinique

For more information contact me on gloggler at gmail dot com


Re: Batteries in Caribbean

karkauai
 

I have a battery issue too, that I’d like opinions about.

I just bought 8 new series 31 120 AHr deep cycle marine batteries in August (while in Maryland). They were kept fully charged with solar before we headed S in late Dec. After only a month, they are not acting like 120 AHr batteries. They stay charged fully during the day with solar (900watts) but at night they discharge to ~24.7V and the monitor says I’ve only used ~45AHrs. I reset the monitor at dusk when the solar is no longer charging. 24.7V should be about 70% of capacity. That is where I’d like to set my minimum voltage before recharging, in the interest of battery life. But my 480 AHr battery bank shouldn’t get there until I’ve used 30% of capacity, which would be about 160 AHrs.

Am I thinking correctly about that?

I checked the batteries which consistently showed low specific gravity of 1.225 to 1.250 (in the”Fair” range). This didn’t change appreciably after running two equalization cycles with my Victron Skylla charger. It does seem that the batteries are a bit better in that they are now at about 24.8 V just before sunrise.

What do you think is going on here? Should I just keep running equalization cycles until the SG gets back to normal?

Thanks for any advice, thoughts, etc in advance.

Kent & Iris
SM 243
Kristy
Still in Ft Lauderdale (We’re calling it Hotel California...you can check out but you can never leave.)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Batteries in Caribbean

Mark Erdos
 

Kent,

 

Your math is correct and you should be reading slightly higher voltage reads than you are getting.

 

A couple of thoughts:

 

Are you depending solely on the meter in the panel to monitor the batteries? If so, the meter may be out of adjustment of failing. Did you adjust the Peukert exponent when installing the new battery bank?

 

The best way to check the voltage of the bank is to disconnect the bank for a while by turning off the red handle switches, check the voltage with a good quality meter from the main studs in the battery well.

Do you have any load on the batteries when checking the voltage. A load such as a refrigerator running will cause lower voltage reads.

 

Have you load tested each battery to determine if you were sold a faulty or defective battery?

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 11:50 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Batteries in Caribbean

 

 

I have a battery issue too, that I’d like opinions about.

I just bought 8 new series 31 120 AHr deep cycle marine batteries in August (while in Maryland). They were kept fully charged with solar before we headed S in late Dec. After only a month, they are not acting like 120 AHr batteries. They stay charged fully during the day with solar (900watts) but at night they discharge to ~24.7V and the monitor says I’ve only used ~45AHrs. I reset the monitor at dusk when the solar is no longer charging. 24.7V should be about 70% of capacity. That is where I’d like to set my minimum voltage before recharging, in the interest of battery life. But my 480 AHr battery bank shouldn’t get there until I’ve used 30% of capacity, which would be about 160 AHrs.

Am I thinking correctly about that?

I checked the batteries which consistently showed low specific gravity of 1..225 to 1.250 (in the”Fair” range). This didn’t change appreciably after running two equalization cycles with my Victron Skylla charger. It does seem that the batteries are a bit better in that they are now at about 24.8 V just before sunrise.

What do you think is going on here? Should I just keep running equalization cycles until the SG gets back to normal?

Thanks for any advice, thoughts, etc in advance.

Kent & Iris
SM 243
Kristy
Still in Ft Lauderdale (We’re calling it Hotel California...you can check out but you can never leave.)


Re: Freezer kaput

Arno Luijten
 

What makes you think you hear the refrigirant flowing? A little hissing sound is not eough to go by. My guess is you need to re-pressurize the system. You may also need to replace the seals inside the connection points and replace the drying filter inside the circuit. Best to call a tech for this as you need some speciality tools for this.
I just had had my crash course in marine refrigiration unfortunatly...

Regards,

Arno Luijten,
SY Luna,
A54-121


Re: Freezer kaput

greatketch@...
 

Duane,

Poke around on Coastal Climate Control website for a bit, and you'll find a great trouble shooting guide for cooling systems.  Follow it carefully and you'll find your problem--for better or worse.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Cape Eleuthera, Eleuthera Is, Bahamas



Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Duane Siegfri
 

We're headed south and if the timing works out would like to attend...sounds like loads of fun!


Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Freezer kaput

Duane Siegfri
 

We replaced the insulation for the air cooled-under seat- freezer and when we put all back in place, the freezer does not work.


The only thing I disconnected was the DC power, nothing else.  Checked all the connections and nothing amiss.  I can feel the compressor running and refrigerant flowing but no cool.  I tried it on both refrigerator and freezer and nothing.  Prior to this it was working flawlessly.


Any ideas on what to check?


Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer SM#477