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Re: Cook top dimensions

Jérémy Lajotte,
 

Hi Bill,

Yes, I've seen the discount you negociate for your clients... but I'm not (yet?...) :)  So I have to find my way to save some bucks on this... Unless I misunderstood and every members of this forum can use the discount you negociate ?

Jérémy Lajotte
06 74 07 1000
Le 24/05/2021 à 14:07, CW Bill Rouse a écrit :

Jeremy,

I negotiated an Amel Owners Yacht School discount for my clients. It is significant. Every one of my clients that have bought from Gn Espace seems to really like the product. I actually think that they are the best and since ENO was acquired, I am not sure that there is any other choice at any price that provides you with reasonable quality. Frankly, I am surprised that Amel has not moved to GN Espace. It is not only about electric/conductive solutions it is about quality and engineering. You should also check out how the stove and the containers that GN Espace have been engineered.

Posting it here may be viewed as an advertisement for Amel Owners Yacht School. Sometimes I find myself in this "slippery situation." But follow this link: https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/gn-espace.html

Let me know if you have any questions. I know the principles of GN Espace and can probably get you any information you need.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:49 AM Jérémy Lajotte, <jeremy@...> wrote:

Who would be interested in a group buy for the OceanChef3 ?

For owners who already installed it : how much was it ? GN website only mentions a price starting at ~£2000...

Thanks,

Jérémy
SM#121
Le 24/05/2021 à 00:45, Nicolas Klene via groups.io a écrit :
Perfect ! 
Thanks a lot Denise.
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: Cook top dimensions

Jérémy Lajotte,
 

Hi Barry,

I'm installing a Quattro 8000/200 too. I'm curious about the charging at 170A you mentioned, using the genset. Can't you reach the max 200A ? What genset do you have ?

I have a 6.5KW. Theoretically it should reach 225A at 28.8V. Including some lost, I though the 200A could be achieved with the genset... but I may be wrong. (well 170A is already a very good number ;) )

(Sorry for the off-topic).

Thanks,

Jérémy
SM#121
Le 24/05/2021 à 22:50, Barry Connor via groups.io a écrit :

Hi again Bill,

Attaching a few photos but will post more and explanation how it all was put together.
The 220V from the Victron now powers completely the 220V panel in the galley. 
The generator and shore power go straight from the Amel installed switching devise through the Victron to only charge the batteries.
The 170amp engine 24V alternator is controlled through a Wakespeed direct to the batteries, I will send you photos of the engine room soon.

I can actually simultaneously charge the batteries from - Generator 170amp + Engine Alternator 120amp + Arch solar panels 20amp + Bimini solar panels 12amp. have actually put in over 300amp at one time.


Very Best

Barry


On May 24, 2021, at 15:26, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Barry,

Yes, I know about the GN Espace cookware and the chicken and the egg, but GN Espace really impresses me.

Please send me photos of your V 8000 install.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 2:10 PM Barry Connor via groups.io <connor_barry=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill,

I did notice at the time that Gn Espace sold cookware. Did not know this about cooking standards though. Thanks for the info.
Maybe. if the rep had offered new oven trays and baking dishes I would have gone further with him. Just Kidding.

I will try to post very soon our complete experience with the conversion. I actually fitted the Victron Quattro 8000, all is now working as should. 

Very Best

Barry

On Monday, May 24, 2021, 2:42:49 PM EDT, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Thanks, Barry.

I will contact him. BTW, the oven and other dimensions on GN Espace are driven by standard dimensions of pans. As far as I know, no other manufacturer of stoves for boats does this.

"These systems have been designed around the Gastronorm standard sizes of containers used in commercial, professional, and catering kitchens. These standards form the building block of GN Espace's integrated systems. The GN Espace stoves and sinks have been designed to transform the galley space into an ergonomic, functional, and significantly safer place to prepare and cook food while at sea."

Gastronorm (GN), sometimes spelled Gastro-Norm, is a European standard for kitchenware tray and container sizes that is commonly seen worldwide in the catering and professional food industry, as well as in certain parts of the high-end consumer market.

So now you know where the "GN" comes from in their name. Big is not always better, but usually perfectly engineered is BEST.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 1:34 PM Barry Connor via groups.io <connor_barry=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill and All,

When we were looking at electric ovens with induction cooktops the only 2 basic choices were the Ocean Chef 3 from Gn Espace UK and the Horizon 3 from Marine Cookers "Techimpex.tv".
The retail price we found initially was about £4,000 for each from different Marine Suppliers in UK.
We actually spoke to the Techimpex representative in Italy and he gave us a special price of 1,850 euro without tax.

What the main advantage was between the 2 units was that the Horizon 3 had bigger inside width and we could still use the baking trays from our Eno 4 burner gas oven and all S/S pans still fitted on the cook top. The Ocean Chef oven was a smaller width inside and we would have had to buy smaller baking pans. The Horizon 3 as well as the Ocean Chef 3 overall oven is smaller than the old Eno but we have roasted 2 chickens with vegetables. It heats up much faster (200deg in 10min) and holds even temperature constant when set.

We had a lot of back and forth between the 2 companies to get all the exact specifications and measurements. The Ocean Chef rep was disappointed when we pointed out his inside oven measurements were less than the Horizon 3 and that we would need to buy new baking pans. We didn't then try to negotiate any special price with him so I can't say that he would have matched the Horizon 3 price.

As we took all the LPGas out we also bought the Techimpex electric grill which fits perfectly inside our Kumma LPGas s/s frame.
Was fun fitting this, took a few tests to get it inside and are still doing the High Temp Silicone seal. Had to put in a cooling fan to keep the electric switches cool. See Photos. BBQ with lid off.

Bill, I think if you contacted the Techimpex representative "Frederico" that you could get a very good deal for the group. He was relentless in keeping in touch and answering email and queries immediately. 

Very Best

Barry and Penny
"SV Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54.  #17
Sainte Anne anchorage Martnique



On Monday, May 24, 2021, 8:08:06 AM EDT, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Jeremy,

I negotiated an Amel Owners Yacht School discount for my clients. It is significant. Every one of my clients that have bought from Gn Espace seems to really like the product. I actually think that they are the best and since ENO was acquired, I am not sure that there is any other choice at any price that provides you with reasonable quality. Frankly, I am surprised that Amel has not moved to GN Espace. It is not only about electric/conductive solutions it is about quality and engineering. You should also check out how the stove and the containers that GN Espace have been engineered.

Posting it here may be viewed as an advertisement for Amel Owners Yacht School. Sometimes I find myself in this "slippery situation." But follow this link: https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/gn-espace.html

Let me know if you have any questions. I know the principles of GN Espace and can probably get you any information you need.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:49 AM Jérémy Lajotte, <jeremy@...> wrote:

Who would be interested in a group buy for the OceanChef3 ?

For owners who already installed it : how much was it ? GN website only mentions a price starting at ~£2000...

Thanks,

J��rémy
SM#121
Le 24/05/2021 à 00:45, Nicolas Klene via groups.io a écrit :
Perfect ! 
Thanks a lot Denise.
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


locked Q sails operational?

smiles bernard
 

Hi there folks

Turkey has been in a national lockdown for a few weeks but heard they were emerging from that again last week, however, I’ve not had any response to emails for a long time now

Does anyone else know if they are operational and if so, if they have managed to ship sails at all recently ?

Many thanks
M


Re: Companionway hatch removal

william reynolds
 

Two of the pictures were missing. in the post here they are.

Chris in Jolly Harbor is a very good friend and after seeing my door,he will be offering the cut and hinge method in the future
Bill Reynolds
Cloud Street


Re: New Zealand

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello Robert,

You might get in if your combined contracts are for many 10’s of thousand. 

Rigging: 2 companies in Opua. NSR. Or my preferred option: NZ Yacht Services. They rigged my boat 8 months ago and the work is perfect. The owner, Paul Smith, rigs nearly all racing boats in the area.. and there are loads of them. Price was very reasonable!!!

Lift out:  Bay of Islands Marina. Either hydraulic trailer or Travelift depending on your size. If you boat is a 64 or 60; it will be hydraulic. 

AntiFoul and Painting: Total Yacht Care

Bow thruster and Cdrive, Winches:  do it yourself. Simple chores!  But if you must, Brian Douglas Marine or Seapower. 

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain, SV Eleuthera, SM007, Opua




On 25 May 2021, at 12:22, Robert Thomson <yachtmemo@...> wrote:

Thanks for your reply. As far as we can see we need to enter into a contract for the work before being allowed in. Is there any particular yard/company that you could recommend for the variety of work required, rerigging, lift out, antfouling, bowthruster, cdrive, winch service etc.


Re: New Zealand

Robert Thomson
 

Thanks for your reply. As far as we can see we need to enter into a contract for the work before being allowed in. Is there any particular yard/company that you could recommend for the variety of work required, rerigging, lift out, antfouling, bowthruster, cdrive, winch service etc.


Re: New Zealand

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello Robert,

We are in Opua since November 2019 and we’ve had considerable work done on our super Maramu. 

To be honest, the work force is very qualified. 

Whangerei is also good as is Auckland... (hence why Kiwis keep winning the America’s Cup) 

However, other than the Marlborough sounds area, the further south you go from Opua The more expensive things get. OPUA IS CHEAPEST. 

Remark: please include your signature,  name and type of Amel and its serial number and location. this allows people to better advise you on your request. 

Jean-Pierre Germain, SV Eleuthera, SM007, NZ


On 25/05/2021, at 10:06 AM, Robert Thomson <yachtmemo@...> wrote:

We are thinking of trying to get into New Zealand later this year on the basis Memo will need a refit. Can any one recommend New Zealand yards that would have experience of Amel yachts.


New Zealand

Robert Thomson
 

We are thinking of trying to get into New Zealand later this year on the basis Memo will need a refit. Can any one recommend New Zealand yards that would have experience of Amel yachts.


Re: Cook top dimensions

Barry Connor
 

Hi again Bill,

Attaching a few photos but will post more and explanation how it all was put together.
The 220V from the Victron now powers completely the 220V panel in the galley. 
The generator and shore power go straight from the Amel installed switching devise through the Victron to only charge the batteries.
The 170amp engine 24V alternator is controlled through a Wakespeed direct to the batteries, I will send you photos of the engine room soon.

I can actually simultaneously charge the batteries from - Generator 170amp + Engine Alternator 120amp + Arch solar panels 20amp + Bimini solar panels 12amp. have actually put in over 300amp at one time.


Very Best

Barry


On May 24, 2021, at 15:26, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Barry,

Yes, I know about the GN Espace cookware and the chicken and the egg, but GN Espace really impresses me.

Please send me photos of your V 8000 install.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 2:10 PM Barry Connor via groups.io <connor_barry=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill,

I did notice at the time that Gn Espace sold cookware. Did not know this about cooking standards though. Thanks for the info.
Maybe. if the rep had offered new oven trays and baking dishes I would have gone further with him. Just Kidding.

I will try to post very soon our complete experience with the conversion. I actually fitted the Victron Quattro 8000, all is now working as should. 

Very Best

Barry

On Monday, May 24, 2021, 2:42:49 PM EDT, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Thanks, Barry.

I will contact him. BTW, the oven and other dimensions on GN Espace are driven by standard dimensions of pans. As far as I know, no other manufacturer of stoves for boats does this.

"These systems have been designed around the Gastronorm standard sizes of containers used in commercial, professional, and catering kitchens. These standards form the building block of GN Espace's integrated systems. The GN Espace stoves and sinks have been designed to transform the galley space into an ergonomic, functional, and significantly safer place to prepare and cook food while at sea."

Gastronorm (GN), sometimes spelled Gastro-Norm, is a European standard for kitchenware tray and container sizes that is commonly seen worldwide in the catering and professional food industry, as well as in certain parts of the high-end consumer market.

So now you know where the "GN" comes from in their name. Big is not always better, but usually perfectly engineered is BEST.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 1:34 PM Barry Connor via groups.io <connor_barry=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill and All,

When we were looking at electric ovens with induction cooktops the only 2 basic choices were the Ocean Chef 3 from Gn Espace UK and the Horizon 3 from Marine Cookers "Techimpex.tv".
The retail price we found initially was about £4,000 for each from different Marine Suppliers in UK.
We actually spoke to the Techimpex representative in Italy and he gave us a special price of 1,850 euro without tax.

What the main advantage was between the 2 units was that the Horizon 3 had bigger inside width and we could still use the baking trays from our Eno 4 burner gas oven and all S/S pans still fitted on the cook top. The Ocean Chef oven was a smaller width inside and we would have had to buy smaller baking pans. The Horizon 3 as well as the Ocean Chef 3 overall oven is smaller than the old Eno but we have roasted 2 chickens with vegetables. It heats up much faster (200deg in 10min) and holds even temperature constant when set.

We had a lot of back and forth between the 2 companies to get all the exact specifications and measurements. The Ocean Chef rep was disappointed when we pointed out his inside oven measurements were less than the Horizon 3 and that we would need to buy new baking pans. We didn't then try to negotiate any special price with him so I can't say that he would have matched the Horizon 3 price.

As we took all the LPGas out we also bought the Techimpex electric grill which fits perfectly inside our Kumma LPGas s/s frame.
Was fun fitting this, took a few tests to get it inside and are still doing the High Temp Silicone seal. Had to put in a cooling fan to keep the electric switches cool. See Photos. BBQ with lid off.

Bill, I think if you contacted the Techimpex representative "Frederico" that you could get a very good deal for the group. He was relentless in keeping in touch and answering email and queries immediately. 

Very Best

Barry and Penny
"SV Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54.  #17
Sainte Anne anchorage Martnique



On Monday, May 24, 2021, 8:08:06 AM EDT, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Jeremy,

I negotiated an Amel Owners Yacht School discount for my clients. It is significant. Every one of my clients that have bought from Gn Espace seems to really like the product. I actually think that they are the best and since ENO was acquired, I am not sure that there is any other choice at any price that provides you with reasonable quality. Frankly, I am surprised that Amel has not moved to GN Espace. It is not only about electric/conductive solutions it is about quality and engineering. You should also check out how the stove and the containers that GN Espace have been engineered.

Posting it here may be viewed as an advertisement for Amel Owners Yacht School. Sometimes I find myself in this "slippery situation." But follow this link: https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/gn-espace.html

Let me know if you have any questions. I know the principles of GN Espace and can probably get you any information you need.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:49 AM Jérémy Lajotte, <jeremy@...> wrote:

Who would be interested in a group buy for the OceanChef3 ?

For owners who already installed it : how much was it ? GN website only mentions a price starting at ~£2000...

Thanks,

Jérémy
SM#121
Le 24/05/2021 à 00:45, Nicolas Klene via groups.io a écrit :
Perfect ! 
Thanks a lot Denise.
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: House Bank vs. Engine Start

karkauai
 

Hi Mark,
I had a lot of work done at Deltaville Boatyard between 2010 and 2016, including the isolated bonding system for the new Yanmar I had installed in Puerto Rico in 2015.  That electrician has moved on (not sure where), but the yard has always gotten the job done right, although at a price.  You might call Keith Ruse ( keith@...; (804) 776-9812 and ask if they have a new electrician who knows Amels. He loves working on Amels, and tried for a while to be a US certified Amel facility...they never even replied, even after I wrote them to recommend him.

If you contact him, tell him I said hi.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy



--
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243


Re: Cook top dimensions

 

Barry,

Yes, I know about the GN Espace cookware and the chicken and the egg, but GN Espace really impresses me.

Please send me photos of your V 8000 install.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 2:10 PM Barry Connor via groups.io <connor_barry=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill,

I did notice at the time that Gn Espace sold cookware. Did not know this about cooking standards though. Thanks for the info.
Maybe. if the rep had offered new oven trays and baking dishes I would have gone further with him. Just Kidding.

I will try to post very soon our complete experience with the conversion. I actually fitted the Victron Quattro 8000, all is now working as should. 

Very Best

Barry

On Monday, May 24, 2021, 2:42:49 PM EDT, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Thanks, Barry.

I will contact him. BTW, the oven and other dimensions on GN Espace are driven by standard dimensions of pans. As far as I know, no other manufacturer of stoves for boats does this.

"These systems have been designed around the Gastronorm standard sizes of containers used in commercial, professional, and catering kitchens. These standards form the building block of GN Espace's integrated systems. The GN Espace stoves and sinks have been designed to transform the galley space into an ergonomic, functional, and significantly safer place to prepare and cook food while at sea."

Gastronorm (GN), sometimes spelled Gastro-Norm, is a European standard for kitchenware tray and container sizes that is commonly seen worldwide in the catering and professional food industry, as well as in certain parts of the high-end consumer market.

So now you know where the "GN" comes from in their name. Big is not always better, but usually perfectly engineered is BEST.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 1:34 PM Barry Connor via groups.io <connor_barry=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill and All,

When we were looking at electric ovens with induction cooktops the only 2 basic choices were the Ocean Chef 3 from Gn Espace UK and the Horizon 3 from Marine Cookers "Techimpex.tv".
The retail price we found initially was about £4,000 for each from different Marine Suppliers in UK.
We actually spoke to the Techimpex representative in Italy and he gave us a special price of 1,850 euro without tax.

What the main advantage was between the 2 units was that the Horizon 3 had bigger inside width and we could still use the baking trays from our Eno 4 burner gas oven and all S/S pans still fitted on the cook top. The Ocean Chef oven was a smaller width inside and we would have had to buy smaller baking pans. The Horizon 3 as well as the Ocean Chef 3 overall oven is smaller than the old Eno but we have roasted 2 chickens with vegetables. It heats up much faster (200deg in 10min) and holds even temperature constant when set.

We had a lot of back and forth between the 2 companies to get all the exact specifications and measurements. The Ocean Chef rep was disappointed when we pointed out his inside oven measurements were less than the Horizon 3 and that we would need to buy new baking pans. We didn't then try to negotiate any special price with him so I can't say that he would have matched the Horizon 3 price.

As we took all the LPGas out we also bought the Techimpex electric grill which fits perfectly inside our Kumma LPGas s/s frame.
Was fun fitting this, took a few tests to get it inside and are still doing the High Temp Silicone seal. Had to put in a cooling fan to keep the electric switches cool. See Photos. BBQ with lid off.

Bill, I think if you contacted the Techimpex representative "Frederico" that you could get a very good deal for the group. He was relentless in keeping in touch and answering email and queries immediately. 

Very Best

Barry and Penny
"SV Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54.  #17
Sainte Anne anchorage Martnique



On Monday, May 24, 2021, 8:08:06 AM EDT, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Jeremy,

I negotiated an Amel Owners Yacht School discount for my clients. It is significant. Every one of my clients that have bought from Gn Espace seems to really like the product. I actually think that they are the best and since ENO was acquired, I am not sure that there is any other choice at any price that provides you with reasonable quality. Frankly, I am surprised that Amel has not moved to GN Espace. It is not only about electric/conductive solutions it is about quality and engineering. You should also check out how the stove and the containers that GN Espace have been engineered.

Posting it here may be viewed as an advertisement for Amel Owners Yacht School. Sometimes I find myself in this "slippery situation." But follow this link: https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/gn-espace.html

Let me know if you have any questions. I know the principles of GN Espace and can probably get you any information you need.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:49 AM Jérémy Lajotte, <jeremy@...> wrote:

Who would be interested in a group buy for the OceanChef3 ?

For owners who already installed it : how much was it ? GN website only mentions a price starting at ~£2000...

Thanks,

Jérémy
SM#121
Le 24/05/2021 à 00:45, Nicolas Klene via groups.io a écrit :
Perfect ! 
Thanks a lot Denise.
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: Cook top dimensions

Barry Connor
 

Hi Bill,

I did notice at the time that Gn Espace sold cookware. Did not know this about cooking standards though. Thanks for the info.
Maybe. if the rep had offered new oven trays and baking dishes I would have gone further with him. Just Kidding.

I will try to post very soon our complete experience with the conversion. I actually fitted the Victron Quattro 8000, all is now working as should. 

Very Best

Barry

On Monday, May 24, 2021, 2:42:49 PM EDT, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Thanks, Barry.

I will contact him. BTW, the oven and other dimensions on GN Espace are driven by standard dimensions of pans. As far as I know, no other manufacturer of stoves for boats does this.

"These systems have been designed around the Gastronorm standard sizes of containers used in commercial, professional, and catering kitchens. These standards form the building block of GN Espace's integrated systems. The GN Espace stoves and sinks have been designed to transform the galley space into an ergonomic, functional, and significantly safer place to prepare and cook food while at sea."

Gastronorm (GN), sometimes spelled Gastro-Norm, is a European standard for kitchenware tray and container sizes that is commonly seen worldwide in the catering and professional food industry, as well as in certain parts of the high-end consumer market.

So now you know where the "GN" comes from in their name. Big is not always better, but usually perfectly engineered is BEST.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 1:34 PM Barry Connor via groups.io <connor_barry=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill and All,

When we were looking at electric ovens with induction cooktops the only 2 basic choices were the Ocean Chef 3 from Gn Espace UK and the Horizon 3 from Marine Cookers "Techimpex.tv".
The retail price we found initially was about £4,000 for each from different Marine Suppliers in UK.
We actually spoke to the Techimpex representative in Italy and he gave us a special price of 1,850 euro without tax.

What the main advantage was between the 2 units was that the Horizon 3 had bigger inside width and we could still use the baking trays from our Eno 4 burner gas oven and all S/S pans still fitted on the cook top. The Ocean Chef oven was a smaller width inside and we would have had to buy smaller baking pans. The Horizon 3 as well as the Ocean Chef 3 overall oven is smaller than the old Eno but we have roasted 2 chickens with vegetables. It heats up much faster (200deg in 10min) and holds even temperature constant when set.

We had a lot of back and forth between the 2 companies to get all the exact specifications and measurements. The Ocean Chef rep was disappointed when we pointed out his inside oven measurements were less than the Horizon 3 and that we would need to buy new baking pans. We didn't then try to negotiate any special price with him so I can't say that he would have matched the Horizon 3 price.

As we took all the LPGas out we also bought the Techimpex electric grill which fits perfectly inside our Kumma LPGas s/s frame.
Was fun fitting this, took a few tests to get it inside and are still doing the High Temp Silicone seal. Had to put in a cooling fan to keep the electric switches cool. See Photos. BBQ with lid off.

Bill, I think if you contacted the Techimpex representative "Frederico" that you could get a very good deal for the group. He was relentless in keeping in touch and answering email and queries immediately. 

Very Best

Barry and Penny
"SV Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54.  #17
Sainte Anne anchorage Martnique



On Monday, May 24, 2021, 8:08:06 AM EDT, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Jeremy,

I negotiated an Amel Owners Yacht School discount for my clients. It is significant. Every one of my clients that have bought from Gn Espace seems to really like the product. I actually think that they are the best and since ENO was acquired, I am not sure that there is any other choice at any price that provides you with reasonable quality. Frankly, I am surprised that Amel has not moved to GN Espace. It is not only about electric/conductive solutions it is about quality and engineering. You should also check out how the stove and the containers that GN Espace have been engineered.

Posting it here may be viewed as an advertisement for Amel Owners Yacht School. Sometimes I find myself in this "slippery situation." But follow this link: https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/gn-espace.html

Let me know if you have any questions. I know the principles of GN Espace and can probably get you any information you need.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:49 AM Jérémy Lajotte, <jeremy@...> wrote:

Who would be interested in a group buy for the OceanChef3 ?

For owners who already installed it : how much was it ? GN website only mentions a price starting at ~£2000...

Thanks,

Jérémy
SM#121
Le 24/05/2021 à 00:45, Nicolas Klene via groups.io a écrit :
Perfect ! 
Thanks a lot Denise.
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: Cook top dimensions

 

Thanks, Barry.

I will contact him. BTW, the oven and other dimensions on GN Espace are driven by standard dimensions of pans. As far as I know, no other manufacturer of stoves for boats does this.

"These systems have been designed around the Gastronorm standard sizes of containers used in commercial, professional, and catering kitchens. These standards form the building block of GN Espace's integrated systems. The GN Espace stoves and sinks have been designed to transform the galley space into an ergonomic, functional, and significantly safer place to prepare and cook food while at sea."

Gastronorm (GN), sometimes spelled Gastro-Norm, is a European standard for kitchenware tray and container sizes that is commonly seen worldwide in the catering and professional food industry, as well as in certain parts of the high-end consumer market.

So now you know where the "GN" comes from in their name. Big is not always better, but usually perfectly engineered is BEST.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 1:34 PM Barry Connor via groups.io <connor_barry=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill and All,

When we were looking at electric ovens with induction cooktops the only 2 basic choices were the Ocean Chef 3 from Gn Espace UK and the Horizon 3 from Marine Cookers "Techimpex.tv".
The retail price we found initially was about £4,000 for each from different Marine Suppliers in UK.
We actually spoke to the Techimpex representative in Italy and he gave us a special price of 1,850 euro without tax.

What the main advantage was between the 2 units was that the Horizon 3 had bigger inside width and we could still use the baking trays from our Eno 4 burner gas oven and all S/S pans still fitted on the cook top. The Ocean Chef oven was a smaller width inside and we would have had to buy smaller baking pans. The Horizon 3 as well as the Ocean Chef 3 overall oven is smaller than the old Eno but we have roasted 2 chickens with vegetables. It heats up much faster (200deg in 10min) and holds even temperature constant when set.

We had a lot of back and forth between the 2 companies to get all the exact specifications and measurements. The Ocean Chef rep was disappointed when we pointed out his inside oven measurements were less than the Horizon 3 and that we would need to buy new baking pans. We didn't then try to negotiate any special price with him so I can't say that he would have matched the Horizon 3 price.

As we took all the LPGas out we also bought the Techimpex electric grill which fits perfectly inside our Kumma LPGas s/s frame.
Was fun fitting this, took a few tests to get it inside and are still doing the High Temp Silicone seal. Had to put in a cooling fan to keep the electric switches cool. See Photos. BBQ with lid off.

Bill, I think if you contacted the Techimpex representative "Frederico" that you could get a very good deal for the group. He was relentless in keeping in touch and answering email and queries immediately. 

Very Best

Barry and Penny
"SV Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54.  #17
Sainte Anne anchorage Martnique



On Monday, May 24, 2021, 8:08:06 AM EDT, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Jeremy,

I negotiated an Amel Owners Yacht School discount for my clients. It is significant. Every one of my clients that have bought from Gn Espace seems to really like the product. I actually think that they are the best and since ENO was acquired, I am not sure that there is any other choice at any price that provides you with reasonable quality. Frankly, I am surprised that Amel has not moved to GN Espace. It is not only about electric/conductive solutions it is about quality and engineering. You should also check out how the stove and the containers that GN Espace have been engineered.

Posting it here may be viewed as an advertisement for Amel Owners Yacht School. Sometimes I find myself in this "slippery situation." But follow this link: https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/gn-espace.html

Let me know if you have any questions. I know the principles of GN Espace and can probably get you any information you need.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:49 AM Jérémy Lajotte, <jeremy@...> wrote:

Who would be interested in a group buy for the OceanChef3 ?

For owners who already installed it : how much was it ? GN website only mentions a price starting at ~£2000...

Thanks,

Jérémy
SM#121
Le 24/05/2021 à 00:45, Nicolas Klene via groups.io a écrit :
Perfect ! 
Thanks a lot Denise.
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: Cook top dimensions

Barry Connor
 

Hi Bill and All,

When we were looking at electric ovens with induction cooktops the only 2 basic choices were the Ocean Chef 3 from Gn Espace UK and the Horizon 3 from Marine Cookers "Techimpex.tv".
The retail price we found initially was about £4,000 for each from different Marine Suppliers in UK.
We actually spoke to the Techimpex representative in Italy and he gave us a special price of 1,850 euro without tax.

What the main advantage was between the 2 units was that the Horizon 3 had bigger inside width and we could still use the baking trays from our Eno 4 burner gas oven and all S/S pans still fitted on the cook top. The Ocean Chef oven was a smaller width inside and we would have had to buy smaller baking pans. The Horizon 3 as well as the Ocean Chef 3 overall oven is smaller than the old Eno but we have roasted 2 chickens with vegetables. It heats up much faster (200deg in 10min) and holds even temperature constant when set.

We had a lot of back and forth between the 2 companies to get all the exact specifications and measurements. The Ocean Chef rep was disappointed when we pointed out his inside oven measurements were less than the Horizon 3 and that we would need to buy new baking pans. We didn't then try to negotiate any special price with him so I can't say that he would have matched the Horizon 3 price.

As we took all the LPGas out we also bought the Techimpex electric grill which fits perfectly inside our Kumma LPGas s/s frame.
Was fun fitting this, took a few tests to get it inside and are still doing the High Temp Silicone seal. Had to put in a cooling fan to keep the electric switches cool. See Photos. BBQ with lid off.

Bill, I think if you contacted the Techimpex representative "Frederico" that you could get a very good deal for the group. He was relentless in keeping in touch and answering email and queries immediately. 

Very Best

Barry and Penny
"SV Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54.  #17
Sainte Anne anchorage Martnique



On Monday, May 24, 2021, 8:08:06 AM EDT, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Jeremy,

I negotiated an Amel Owners Yacht School discount for my clients. It is significant. Every one of my clients that have bought from Gn Espace seems to really like the product. I actually think that they are the best and since ENO was acquired, I am not sure that there is any other choice at any price that provides you with reasonable quality. Frankly, I am surprised that Amel has not moved to GN Espace. It is not only about electric/conductive solutions it is about quality and engineering. You should also check out how the stove and the containers that GN Espace have been engineered.

Posting it here may be viewed as an advertisement for Amel Owners Yacht School. Sometimes I find myself in this "slippery situation." But follow this link: https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/gn-espace.html

Let me know if you have any questions. I know the principles of GN Espace and can probably get you any information you need.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:49 AM Jérémy Lajotte, <jeremy@...> wrote:

Who would be interested in a group buy for the OceanChef3 ?

For owners who already installed it : how much was it ? GN website only mentions a price starting at ~£2000...

Thanks,

Jérémy
SM#121
Le 24/05/2021 à 00:45, Nicolas Klene via groups.io a écrit :
Perfect ! 
Thanks a lot Denise.
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: Where best to locate Raymarine Evolution Autopilot EV-1 Sensor Core on Santorin - What Linear Drive is this...type 2 Long? or Type 2 short

Eric Meury
 

Antonio

We have a santorin as well.  1993 ...  What model of linear drive is this?  Thanks for you help.


Re: Companionway hatch removal

 

I agree that there should be an easy way to do this, and I found a woodshop owned by a New Zealander in Antigua who repairs this door without removing it. Chris Waelen in Jolly Harbour Boatyard, Jolly Harbour, Antigua. Chris works wonders with anything wood. I looked him up because he replaced the veneer on the companionway door of an Amel 54 with a teak veneer. Here is a photo, and here is a link for contact and more information: 
https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/anything-wood.html. Chris uses a 3M self-adhesive veneer and has choices of several different kinds of wood, including cherry.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:57 AM william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:
I've heard much discussion about renewing the vertical  companionway hatch.  The veneer on the hatch takes a beating from sun and rain. I've seen several boats that had their doors sanded and new veneer applied. The new veneer surface is less than 1/32nd thick and cannot be sanded.  It is an easy process.  A one day DIY project and shouldn't cost more than $100.00 US. (Woodworkers are charging much more)

A better solution - I  cut the door horizontally, in the middle,  reattached the pieces with a piano  hinge, added a gasket between the two halves, replaced the sweep and viola! I can now remove the hatch in less than 5 minutes. (See the results on the attached photos.) Cost was about $100.00 US including the hinge, sweep and varnish.   I have a full set of pictures of the process if anyone is interested
Bill Reynolds
Cloud Street SM2K 331


Re: Cook top dimensions

 

Jeremy,

I negotiated an Amel Owners Yacht School discount for my clients. It is significant. Every one of my clients that have bought from Gn Espace seems to really like the product. I actually think that they are the best and since ENO was acquired, I am not sure that there is any other choice at any price that provides you with reasonable quality. Frankly, I am surprised that Amel has not moved to GN Espace. It is not only about electric/conductive solutions it is about quality and engineering. You should also check out how the stove and the containers that GN Espace have been engineered.

Posting it here may be viewed as an advertisement for Amel Owners Yacht School. Sometimes I find myself in this "slippery situation." But follow this link: https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/gn-espace.html

Let me know if you have any questions. I know the principles of GN Espace and can probably get you any information you need.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:49 AM Jérémy Lajotte, <jeremy@...> wrote:

Who would be interested in a group buy for the OceanChef3 ?

For owners who already installed it : how much was it ? GN website only mentions a price starting at ~£2000...

Thanks,

Jérémy
SM#121
Le 24/05/2021 à 00:45, Nicolas Klene via groups.io a écrit :
Perfect ! 
Thanks a lot Denise.
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: Cook top dimensions

Vladan SV PAME
 

Jeremy,

If you are referring to induction OceanChef3 I'm interested.

Here is quote I got 3 days ago: The cost of our OceanChef 3 zone gimbaled Induction model (with a glass door) is: £3995.83 excluding VAT and the current lead time on this model is 3- 4 weeks from order confirmation payment

Shipment is extra cost.

I asked confirmation is quoted price is before or after Yacht School Clients discount but no answer yet.

Best Regards, 
--
Vladan

A54 #157 PAME


Companionway hatch removal

william reynolds
 

I've heard much discussion about renewing the vertical  companionway hatch.  The veneer on the hatch takes a beating from sun and rain. I've seen several boats that had their doors sanded and new veneer applied. The new veneer surface is less than 1/32nd thick and cannot be sanded.  It is an easy process.  A one day DIY project and shouldn't cost more than $100.00 US. (Woodworkers are charging much more)

A better solution - I  cut the door horizontally, in the middle,  reattached the pieces with a piano  hinge, added a gasket between the two halves, replaced the sweep and viola! I can now remove the hatch in less than 5 minutes. (See the results on the attached photos.) Cost was about $100.00 US including the hinge, sweep and varnish.   I have a full set of pictures of the process if anyone is interested
Bill Reynolds
Cloud Street SM2K 331


Re: Cook top dimensions

Jérémy Lajotte,
 

Who would be interested in a group buy for the OceanChef3 ?

For owners who already installed it : how much was it ? GN website only mentions a price starting at ~£2000...

Thanks,

Jérémy
SM#121
Le 24/05/2021 à 00:45, Nicolas Klene via groups.io a écrit :

Perfect ! 
Thanks a lot Denise.
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille

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