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Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Duane Siegfri
 

We're headed south and if the timing works out would like to attend...sounds like loads of fun!


Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Freezer kaput

Duane Siegfri
 

We replaced the insulation for the air cooled-under seat- freezer and when we put all back in place, the freezer does not work.


The only thing I disconnected was the DC power, nothing else.  Checked all the connections and nothing amiss.  I can feel the compressor running and refrigerant flowing but no cool.  I tried it on both refrigerator and freezer and nothing.  Prior to this it was working flawlessly.


Any ideas on what to check?


Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer SM#477


Bamar electric furler / extracting the sheaves - Extractors … Never leave home without one!

galacsea galacsea
 

Recently, the belt in my Bamar genoa electric fuller ruptured while furling in.  Opening the box, I realized both sheaves had to be replaced. Here comes the hard work of extracting these little guys.  Bamar tells you to lever them out with the help of two screwdrivers.  Good luck!!  After a good three days of hard work, plenty of penetrating WD40, and runs to local hardware stores, I finally succeeded in pulling them out.  Why was it such a hard job?  Can’t explain as the axel on which each each sheave is fitted was perfectly smooth and clean.  No rust.  So, it’s just a faulty design on Bamar’s part.  Just another one.




Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Gary Wells
 

We are also spending time in the Caribbean and would love to join up. Currently in the BVIs/USVIs but heading down to Martinique soon, then returning to BVIs.

If it's of interest to come this far north, I can ask a couple of businesses about 'sponsoring' us (although I don't know what that might mean...).  

We've spent two winters here already and I have a couple of contacts.

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries in Caribbean

Mark Erdos
 

Miles,

 

You do not say which direction you are heading when leaving Grenada or what type of batteries you are seeking.

Throughout most of the islands, batteries are going to be expensive, about 50% or more over USA prices. The bigger challenge is getting the quantity you need and fresh batteries. If you seek specialty batteries, this is going to be harder still. If you seek wet cell, the choices and availability will be greater.

 

You have three choices:

 

1)    Buy from a local store such as Budget Marine or Island Water World and just swallow the price

2)    Freight batteries from the USA using one of many freight shipping options – This will be lower than option 1 but require an agent in Grenada for YIT status and of course will take time.

3)    Sail to another country such as Puerto Rico and buy batteries at Costco or West Marine. You can buy on-line and have them delivered to a store for free in PR (sometimes) – it’s only a 4 day sail from Grenada to get there. Some of the other islands also offer a good battery selection such as Martinique and St. Martin.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 7:44 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries in Caribbean

 

 

Hi folks
My service batteries seem to be on the way out.
Does anyone know where batteries can be purchased economical in the Caribbean chain?
Currently in Grenada where they seem expensive and so wondering about delaying the replacement till we get somewhere else.
Any info most gratefully received
All the very best
Miles


Batteries in Caribbean

smiles bernard
 

Hi folks
My service batteries seem to be on the way out.
Does anyone know where batteries can be purchased economical in the Caribbean chain?
Currently in Grenada where they seem expensive and so wondering about delaying the replacement till we get somewhere else.
Any info most gratefully received
All the very best
Miles


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Joe Nance
 

Hi Bill,

This sounds like a great idea.  Tracie & I would love to participate if the timing works out.  We never know our schedule so if this happens & a date is set, we can most likely block it our of our work schedule back in the States.  Currently in St. Vincent,, heading to Martinique where we will keep the boat for a while.

Thanks for spearheading this!

Joe

On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 2:58 PM Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I would like to know what you think about having an Amel Caribbean Rally in 2019.

I would be happy to spearhead it and believe I might be able to get some discounts from marinas, marine vendors, and possibly restaurants. If we get enough participants, we might even quality for Tourism Board support from places like the BVI, St. Maarten, Martinique, St. Lucia, and Grenada. I know that the Tourism Boards have participated in past rallies by supplying transportation and tours which promote their islands.

As a participant in the Amel Rendezvous in the Chesapeak, I know how much fun these can be.

This email opens it up for discussion. Let me know if you are interested and/or if you can help put this together. Many of us probably have at least one contact in the Caribbean who could help.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
My calendar: 
https://theamelschool.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Paul Osterberg
 

We would like to participate if place and timing work. We are in St Martin heading south. Probably laying up on Trinidad for the Hurricane season.
Paul and Kerstin on SY Kerpa SM 259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

OMG!
I have got to hear your story before your subconscious blocks the bad parts from your memory. Count us in. 
Kim and Chuck 
Joy #388
In st.martin slow waking south 

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 3:44 PM Sailing Island Pearl colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Island Pearl II just arrived in Caribbean early this morning from Brisbane, Australia via Asia, most Indian Ocean Islands, South Atlantic Islands and Brazil.

In Prickly Bay now, then a slow trip up the Windward then Leewards before BVI's & US BVI's etc then across to Bonaire in late May/June for Hurricane season.

Would love to participate if the dates work out, and/or say HI to any other Amel owners as we travel the Caribbean this season. If you see us anchored near you feel free to come over for a cold beer. We love Amel talk!

Cheers
Colin



On Tue, 22 Jan. 2019, 13:01 alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Hello Bill,

I think it is a great idea, our Maramu is based in Venezuela, if we get and idea of the overall plan with dates included, we would seriously consider participating. Also the cost would be an important factor, in my opinion. Thanks for promoting such an activity. Maybe we can convince other Amel owners here to participate.
Alex Paquin
SIMPATICO
Maramu #94, 1981


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

 

Alex,

I envision no cost for the participation in the rally. Of course there may be other costs (food & drink). If there is enough interest, we might get some of the individual island's tourist bureaus to contribute something, like bus transportation for a tour of some sort. We will surely have island stopovers, and if we get enough interest we may be able to get a significant discount for marina fees.

It all starts with how many boats express interest....then some of us will go to work seeing what we can get in terms of support from the various entities. As of now there are about 8 responses to my original posting. I am thinking that if we had 20 or more, we could leverage that number to get something...maybe I am wrong.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 11:01 AM alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Bill,

I think it is a great idea, our Maramu is based in Venezuela, if we get and idea of the overall plan with dates included, we would seriously consider participating. Also the cost would be an important factor, in my opinion. Thanks for promoting such an activity. Maybe we can convince other Amel owners here to participate.
Alex Paquin
SIMPATICO
Maramu #94, 1981


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Donald Patterson
 

Do you have a return scheduled 


On Jan 22, 2019, at 2:17 PM, Sailing Island Pearl colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Island Pearl II just arrived in Caribbean early this morning from Brisbane, Australia via Asia, most Indian Ocean Islands, South Atlantic Islands and Brazil.

In Prickly Bay now, then a slow trip up the Windward then Leewards before BVI's & US BVI's etc then across to Bonaire in late May/June for Hurricane season.

Would love to participate if the dates work out, and/or say HI to any other Amel owners as we travel the Caribbean this season. If you see us anchored near you feel free to come over for a cold beer. We love Amel talk!

Cheers
Colin



On Tue, 22 Jan. 2019, 13:01 alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Hello Bill,

I think it is a great idea, our Maramu is based in Venezuela, if we get and idea of the overall plan with dates included, we would seriously consider participating. Also the cost would be an important factor, in my opinion. Thanks for promoting such an activity. Maybe we can convince other Amel owners here to participate.
Alex Paquin
SIMPATICO
Maramu #94, 1981


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Mark Erdos
 

Colin,

 

Also consider an extended stay in Aruba during hurricane season. Curacao, not so much. You will love the diving and snorkeling in Bonaire, it is really first rate. If you opt to go to Aruba, the Renaissance marina is right downtown in the heart of everything and have reasonable monthly rates. You will need to book way ahead since due to many people’s insurances companies making changes, the ABC’s are becoming a destination for those wanting to stay in the Caribbean.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 3:17 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

 

 

Island Pearl II just arrived in Caribbean early this morning from Brisbane, Australia via Asia, most Indian Ocean Islands, South Atlantic Islands and Brazil.

 

In Prickly Bay now, then a slow trip up the Windward then Leewards before BVI's & US BVI's etc then across to Bonaire in late May/June for Hurricane season.

 

Would love to participate if the dates work out, and/or say HI to any other Amel owners as we travel the Caribbean this season. If you see us anchored near you feel free to come over for a cold beer. We love Amel talk!

 

Cheers

Colin

 

 

 

On Tue, 22 Jan. 2019, 13:01 alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:

 

Hello Bill,

I think it is a great idea, our Maramu is based in Venezuela, if we get and idea of the overall plan with dates included, we would seriously consider participating. Also the cost would be an important factor, in my opinion. Thanks for promoting such an activity. Maybe we can convince other Amel owners here to participate.

Alex Paquin

SIMPATICO

Maramu #94, 1981


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Island Pearl II just arrived in Caribbean early this morning from Brisbane, Australia via Asia, most Indian Ocean Islands, South Atlantic Islands and Brazil.

In Prickly Bay now, then a slow trip up the Windward then Leewards before BVI's & US BVI's etc then across to Bonaire in late May/June for Hurricane season.

Would love to participate if the dates work out, and/or say HI to any other Amel owners as we travel the Caribbean this season. If you see us anchored near you feel free to come over for a cold beer. We love Amel talk!

Cheers
Colin



On Tue, 22 Jan. 2019, 13:01 alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Hello Bill,

I think it is a great idea, our Maramu is based in Venezuela, if we get and idea of the overall plan with dates included, we would seriously consider participating. Also the cost would be an important factor, in my opinion. Thanks for promoting such an activity. Maybe we can convince other Amel owners here to participate.
Alex Paquin
SIMPATICO
Maramu #94, 1981


Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Alejandro Paquin
 

Hello Bill,
I think it is a great idea, our Maramu is based in Venezuela, if we get and idea of the overall plan with dates included, we would seriously consider participating. Also the cost would be an important factor, in my opinion. Thanks for promoting such an activity. Maybe we can convince other Amel owners here to participate.
Alex Paquin
SIMPATICO
Maramu #94, 1981


Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill, Diane and I would attend,depending on where and when.Ordered the water pump from Caribb Marine and said your hello to Sabin for you, she smiled,you devil. Hoping the pump will be in Wed.Thanks for the help on that.
Pat & Diane,
SM Shenanigans
Le Marin Martinique


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re- port bow locker floor

 

Tom,

I believe that you have received very good first-hand accounts from very good owners, especially Mark Erdos s/v CREAM PUFF. I never experienced this locker floor cracking problem first-hand, and couldn't add anything to what others have said. I am curious as to why some SMs have this problem at an early age, more latter in life, and some never. My guess is it must be correlated with dampness in the chain locker, or storage of heavy items such as anchors that will bounce up and down in heavy seas (I see a lot of pointed anchors and chain in these sail lockers, but I just don't know the cause.

To answer your question about the first things I look for when doing a pre-purchase review of a resale Amel: I look for signs of "owner care" and whether the condition is Satisfactory, Average, or Poor. Sometimes the clues are very subtle, but once I determine the level of "owner care," it is easy to find issues that are: many times are not found on a survey, sometimes hidden by the current owner, or in some cases, not known by the current owner. Obviously, if I saw a cracked and unrepaired sail locker bottom, I will suspect a "poor level of care" by the current owner. I absolutely love it when I see an Amel that is prepared for an inspection by Henri Amel. I see this about 15% of the time.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 9:10 AM thomas.kleman <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

I wanted to thank all of you for the help. I’m planning on incorporating many/most of the ideas put forward. If I was in the E Carib I know where I could find competent help; Im headed for shelter Bay, Panama so it might be just us (again).

Questions (because Im ordering raw materials for this project from Miami to meet me in Shelter Bay).

1) thickness of marine plywood for floor ?
2) My chainlocker bulkhead wall seems Ok. Precise name of product to seal it ?
3) Glass in the seams of new floor ? The whole floor ? The bulkhead too ?
4) starboard floor seemed Ok. Just go ahead and do that too ?

Bill Rouse (if youre reading this)- noted that your biz is booming and you survey many SMs. Is this the first thing you look for ? And interested in your remediation preferences on this issue.

Thanks Much

Tom and Kirstin
SV L’ORIENT
Green Island Panama
SM2K 422


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

John Clark
 

Arno, I thought you were going to stay in Curacao? 

John

SV Annie SM 37
Just arrived Le Marin.

On Sun, Jan 20, 2019, 10:09 Arno Luijten arno.luijten@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

We are “permanently” based in Marigot, Saint Martin. Let me know if I can help in some way.

Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

John Clark
 

I think it is a great idea.  I had the great fun last summer sailing with three other  SMs between Grenada and Trinidad.  We "raced" a few legs for fun and of course took each other's pictures.  

I had the nite watch last nite and thought a really cool picture would be a "fleet" of Amels running downwind on the double pole.  St Maarten to St Thomas maybe....  From the USVI/BVI we could run south to Martinique with no stress at all.

On Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 14:58 Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

I would like to know what you think about having an Amel Caribbean Rally in 2019.

I would be happy to spearhead it and believe I might be able to get some discounts from marinas, marine vendors, and possibly restaurants. If we get enough participants, we might even quality for Tourism Board support from places like the BVI, St. Maarten, Martinique, St. Lucia, and Grenada. I know that the Tourism Boards have participated in past rallies by supplying transportation and tours which promote their islands.

As a participant in the Amel Rendezvous in the Chesapeak, I know how much fun these can be.

This email opens it up for discussion. Let me know if you are interested and/or if you can help put this together. Many of us probably have at least one contact in the Caribbean who could help.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
My calendar: 
https://theamelschool.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


Re- port bow locker floor

thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>
 

Thanks again (with a special tip of the cap to Bill K and Mark E). Got my order ready- my Miami to Shelter Bay freighter leaves in a week so the project planning was urgent.

Regarding people’s sage advice to get help- We do everything ourselves except bottom sanding (even canvas).....but if I can find someone to assist Im all over that. We are going west for the first time and I dont know what I will find in Shelter Bay. Like most of us, when I have a boat problem its pretty much all I can think of since this is both my vehicle and home.

Armed with this site and youtube, we are not the quickest but we fix things the right way, if slowly.

One thing about the inside of the chain locker and port bow locker- there are several places on SMs where fiberglass work was not “finished” but painted (look in your mizzen line storage basin). Depending on how much weight Ive lost and how my relationship is going with Kirstin beside me in the chain locker, I might delay some of the finishing work in these places.


Re: Re- port bow locker floor

Craig Briggs
 

Tom,

I'd add three suggestions to Bill's excellent post:

A.) put a prefabricated access panel in at least one side for easy access to the chain locker in the future
B.) check the condition of your hawse pipe, which is galvanized iron. The anchor chain wears off the galvanizing and the pipe rusts - mine rusted right through. Easier to replace when you're doing the floors, too. I used Schedule 80 CPVC.
3.) Consider a penetrating epoxy like Git-Rot for the forward side of the watertight bulkhead in the chain locker area, possibly in addition to glass if it's really compromised like Bill Kinney's - mine was still in very solid condition and I decided the Git-Rot would be sufficient.

Good luck with it.
Craig Briggs SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <greatketch@...> wrote :

Tom,

1) thickness of marine plywood for floor ?
For this span, 1/2 inch ply should be fine.

2) My chainlocker bulkhead wall seems Ok. Precise name of product to seal it ? 
For the bulkhead, we just ground off all compromised wood, then used polyester resin and glass cloth to cover it. It's a pretty tough environment. 

3) Glass in the seams of new floor ? The whole floor ? The bulkhead too ?
Definitely glass cloth over the WHOLE floor, both sides!  Not only will it seal and protect the wood from water and mechanical damage, it makes the whole structure a lot stiffer.  And definitely glass cloth to tab the new floor to the hull.  Do not butt the plywood tight against the hull; leave a bit of a gap to avoid making a hard spot.

4) starboard floor seemed Ok. Just go ahead and do that too ?
I would.

When you remove the old floor, be sure to leave a fiberglass shelf around the edge for the new one to sit on.  Trying to build that from underneath would truly be a nightmare.

This was one of those jobs that I kept looking at and saying... I'll do that.  I know fiberglass, it's not hard. Karen insisted that we hire someone.  Watching him come up out of the locker in a full suit, and respirator, covered from head to toe in fiberglass grinding dust, I realized once again she is smarter than I am.

Here is a detailed process for what was done for our floors:
  • Cut around about 2 to 3 inches in from the hull.
  • Pull out all of the old plywood.
  • Solvent wipe, and then grind hull where the new tabbing will go and the top of "shelf" to ensure adhesion of new parts.
  • Make a template for each side.
  • Cut out core material (plywood, foam, whatever)
  • Check fit.
  • Glass both sides of panel core. (Doing the bottom is a lot easier now than after it is installed!) Be sure to seal the edges of the plywood all around.
  • Check fit.
  • Solvent wipe and grind the new glass on the bottom of panel where it will rest on the old floor tabbing.
  • Check fit.
  • Use thickened epoxy to bed the panel down on the shelf. Let cure.
  • Tab the top side of the panel to the hull.
  • Sand smooth.
  • Apply gelcoat--if desired.
Pretty much everything was done with polyester resin.  

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Cape Eleuthera, Eleuthera Is., Bahamas

---In amelyachtowners@..., <no_reply@...> wrote :

I wanted to thank all of you for the help. I’m planning on incorporating many/most of the ideas put forward. If I was in the E Carib I know where I could find competent help; Im headed for shelter Bay, Panama so it might be just us (again).

Questions (because Im ordering raw materials for this project from Miami to meet me in Shelter Bay).

1) thickness of marine plywood for floor ?
2) My chainlocker bulkhead wall seems Ok. Precise name of product to seal it ?
3) Glass in the seams of new floor ? The whole floor ? The bulkhead too ?
4) starboard floor seemed Ok. Just go ahead and do that too ?

Bill Rouse (if youre reading this)- noted that your biz is booming and you survey many SMs. Is this the first thing you look for ? And interested in your remediation preferences on this issue.

Thanks Much

Tom and Kirstin
SV L’ORIENT
Green Island Panama
SM2K 422