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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Freezer Insulation

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Alan, yes we don't have the dishwasher, a second fridge replaced that space. However the plumbing is still there and I will check the clothes washer plumbing.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean pearl

On 18 January 2019 at 13:07 "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

And also the water connection to the dishwasher...we had that.


Danny, one thing to bear in mind , it doesn't matter whether or not you've used the washing machine, the pressure water is still connected to it. Same with the dishwasher, but I seem to remember you don't have that?

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

 


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat Cabin AC

seagasm
 

Thank you Alexandre, when you replaced the capacitors, did you find that fixed the problem and didn't trip your mains again.

Barry, TW3


seals and bottom paint...

eric freedman
 

Hi Bill,

When I first took delivery of Kimberlite, I was rather anal about bottom painting and maintenance of the bow thruster and C drive seals. I painted the bottom and changed all the seals etc. every year for about 10 years. As you mentioned, Amel in LA Rochelle mentioned the screwdriver method to remove the seals. I have always done it with a big 20 inch long screwdriver and the seals pop out like magic.

You must be careful about the orientation of the tip of the blade. However if done correctly the long screwdriver does a wonderful job.

.

Just as a point of interest, I always used Ablative paint and sanded between coats. Last year the bottom was looking rather rough.

After about 14 coats of bottom paint it was time to remove it all  . Just so I would not harm the gelcoat, and media blast,  I had the yard use a chemical stripper to get back down to gelcoat. It required 13 gallons of paint stripper.

 

We decided to weigh the paint that was removed. It filled 2 very large drums weighing a total exceeding 300 pounds of old paint.

I guess I will have to lower the boot stripe.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 7:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Since we are talking about seals...

 

 

Bill 

 

I read your seal write-up and recognized NIKIMAT's bow thruster photo with an added "red don't do X."

 

I have found that there is usually more than one good way to perform almost every procedure. There are many Amel owners that use the screw method that was illustrated by Alex. I certainly don't intend to debate which is the best method and I don't believe anyone in this group is uniquely qualified to do so.

 

When I audited Amel workers removing C-Drive seals, they placed the flat tip screwdriver under a seal at 9 o'clock and the other side of the screwdriver at 3 o'clock. Then levered the seals out one at a time. I asked for a printed copy of the Amel instructions and discovered those exact instructions using a screwdriver. A month later, I had the opportunity to try it and found it worked perfectly.

 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
My calendar: 
https://theamelschool.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html

 

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 9:57 AM Paul Stascavage pstas2003@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:

 

Bill,

Thanks for taking the time to do this write up. It was very informative and very well done. The link to the seal puller tool was greatly appreciated.

Your contributions as well as all the other seasoned owners and former owners on this forum are greatly appreciated.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM 466 S/V Rita Kathryn
St Augustine, Florida


Solar Panels Panama

Oscar de schaetzen
 

Hello,

Has anyone installed solar panels on his/her boat in Panama? Could you please share your contacts?

Kind regards,

Oscar


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat Cabin AC

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Barry,

No .pdf but may be the illustration I did will help you as I labeled some of the wiring.

http://www.nikimat.com/air_conditioning_climma_marine_compact_9_eh.html

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Thu, 1/17/19, seagasm@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat Cabin AC
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Thursday, January 17, 2019, 6:39 PM


 









Does anyone have a PDF file relating to
the Frigoboat Cabin Air Conditioner installed in SM's,
particularly late 1990 - early 2000. The unit installed in
TW3 I believe is Schematic Split 4-6-8 with FC Evaporator.
In particular, any electrical wiring diagram or, anyone who
knows where I can obtain this information. I believe a
capacitor has failed and I am not sure where to start
looking.
Thank
youBarry & RobynTradewinds III SM
#171


A54 : can I switch from butane to propane? + advise how to sail to Taiwan?

Oscar de schaetzen
 

Hello,

We left France on Sept 1st and we're now in Panama. 

I have two question for you - thank you in advance for your help :


1/ COOKING GAS.


The boat (Amel 54) was bought in France. We always used the blue 2.75kg bottles (i.e BUTANE).

Here in Panama they don't sell BUTANE but Tropigas or Panagas, which is a variable mixture of propane and butane.

Has anyone used one of these mixtures? Does it affects the burners (or anything else)? Do you advise Tropigas or Panagas?

By extension I am also wondering if I could use PROPANE gas or do I have to adapt anything beforehand? 


2/ ITINARY


We're currently in Panama and in one year's time I would like to be in TAIWAN. 

Has anyone sailed there yet? 

What itinary would you advise (starting from Panama)? 

I'm sailing with kids so I'm very reluctant to sail in notorious 'dangerous' areas. I prefer to make a detour than to take the risk of meeting with pirates.

My preference is of course to passe via French Polynesia, but thereafter??


Thank you dear AMEL fellows for your help!


Oscar 

SV ESTRAN - A54 hull n°4



Frigoboat Cabin AC

seagasm
 

Does anyone have a PDF file relating to the Frigoboat Cabin Air Conditioner installed in SM's, particularly late 1990 - early 2000. The unit installed in TW3 I believe is Schematic Split 4-6-8 with FC Evaporator. In particular, any electrical wiring diagram or, anyone who knows where I can obtain this information. I believe a capacitor has failed and I am not sure where to start looking.

Thank you
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM #171



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Since we are talking about seals...

 

Bill 

I read your seal write-up and recognized NIKIMAT's bow thruster photo with an added "red don't do X."

I have found that there is usually more than one good way to perform almost every procedure. There are many Amel owners that use the screw method that was illustrated by Alex. I certainly don't intend to debate which is the best method and I don't believe anyone in this group is uniquely qualified to do so.

When I audited Amel workers removing C-Drive seals, they placed the flat tip screwdriver under a seal at 9 o'clock and the other side of the screwdriver at 3 o'clock. Then levered the seals out one at a time. I asked for a printed copy of the Amel instructions and discovered those exact instructions using a screwdriver. A month later, I had the opportunity to try it and found it worked perfectly.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
My calendar: 
https://theamelschool.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 9:57 AM Paul Stascavage pstas2003@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Bill,

Thanks for taking the time to do this write up. It was very informative and very well done. The link to the seal puller tool was greatly appreciated.

Your contributions as well as all the other seasoned owners and former owners on this forum are greatly appreciated.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM 466 S/V Rita Kathryn
St Augustine, Florida



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Freezer Insulation

Alan Leslie
 

And also the water connection to the dishwasher...we had that.

Danny, one thing to bear in mind , it doesn't matter whether or not you've used the washing machine, the pressure water is still connected to it. Same with the dishwasher, but I seem to remember you don't have that?

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Freezer Insulation

 

Danny,

Check the weird looking freshwater pipe/hose fitting near the floor behind the clothes washer. It is a filter and hose coupling. I had it start leaking. it is #5 on my list. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:14 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Bill,

I shall search on. Hardly use the aircon, haven't used the clothes washer in a while, done a fairly good first look at the under sink piping but there is a slight leak in the water system somewhere as the pump isn't holding pressure like it used to. That could be anywhere but the accumulation suggests a central point.

Thanks again and wishing you and Judy all the best for the year ahead.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean pearl

On 18 January 2019 at 11:29 "Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Danny,

Most common sources in order are:
  1. Cracked condensation plastic collection box on Salon AC
  2. Partially clogged AC condensation drain
  3. Cracked galley sink spray handle near the hose connection
  4. Partially clogged Clothes Washer drain
  5. Leaking fresh water connection to the clothes washer
  6. Leaking drain under the sink
  7. Leaking freshwater pipes/hoses under the sink
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:48 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

 

Hi Duane,

from the comments by my frig tech your experience is far more common than mine, he indicated I was all but unique so I am the lucky one. I gathered from him that often, mostly it was bilge water sloshing around that causes the problem and I have never had water sloshing around under my freezer.........until today. Just goes to show, never say never. Fresh water at that. I have yet to discover the source but I suspect a very slow accumulation. My water tank has not been full (the breather exits to this area) and I cant see any leaks in the fresh water system under the sink.This area connects. Haven't been using the aircon much, just a bit of running to keep them functioning. Freezer water cooling feed line?

I shall find it!!

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

Mangonui

New Zealand

On 17 January 2019 at 01:33 " sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
 

Danny,


Thanks for the reply.  I can't imagine another reason.  The insulation is soaked around and above that insulation bottom to wall joint, and the insulation was pourous and cracked.  It wasn't wet above the joint very far.  If it were the seal leaking cold air then the wet would start at the top.

I guess I'm just lucky.

Duane

 

 


 


 

 

 

 


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Freezer Insulation

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Bill,

I shall search on. Hardly use the aircon, haven't used the clothes washer in a while, done a fairly good first look at the under sink piping but there is a slight leak in the water system somewhere as the pump isn't holding pressure like it used to. That could be anywhere but the accumulation suggests a central point.

Thanks again and wishing you and Judy all the best for the year ahead.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean pearl

On 18 January 2019 at 11:29 "Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Danny,

Most common sources in order are:
  1. Cracked condensation plastic collection box on Salon AC
  2. Partially clogged AC condensation drain
  3. Cracked galley sink spray handle near the hose connection
  4. Partially clogged Clothes Washer drain
  5. Leaking fresh water connection to the clothes washer
  6. Leaking drain under the sink
  7. Leaking freshwater pipes/hoses under the sink
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:48 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

 

Hi Duane,

from the comments by my frig tech your experience is far more common than mine, he indicated I was all but unique so I am the lucky one. I gathered from him that often, mostly it was bilge water sloshing around that causes the problem and I have never had water sloshing around under my freezer.........until today. Just goes to show, never say never. Fresh water at that. I have yet to discover the source but I suspect a very slow accumulation. My water tank has not been full (the breather exits to this area) and I cant see any leaks in the fresh water system under the sink.This area connects. Haven't been using the aircon much, just a bit of running to keep them functioning. Freezer water cooling feed line?

I shall find it!!

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

Mangonui

New Zealand

On 17 January 2019 at 01:33 " sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
 

Danny,


Thanks for the reply.  I can't imagine another reason.  The insulation is soaked around and above that insulation bottom to wall joint, and the insulation was pourous and cracked.  It wasn't wet above the joint very far.  If it were the seal leaking cold air then the wet would start at the top.

I guess I'm just lucky.

Duane

 

 


 


 

 

 

 


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Freezer Insulation

 

Danny,

Most common sources in order are:
  1. Cracked condensation plastic collection box on Salon AC
  2. Partially clogged AC condensation drain
  3. Cracked galley sink spray handle near the hose connection
  4. Partially clogged Clothes Washer drain
  5. Leaking fresh water connection to the clothes washer
  6. Leaking drain under the sink
  7. Leaking freshwater pipes/hoses under the sink
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:48 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Duane,

from the comments by my frig tech your experience is far more common than mine, he indicated I was all but unique so I am the lucky one. I gathered from him that often, mostly it was bilge water sloshing around that causes the problem and I have never had water sloshing around under my freezer.........until today. Just goes to show, never say never. Fresh water at that. I have yet to discover the source but I suspect a very slow accumulation. My water tank has not been full (the breather exits to this area) and I cant see any leaks in the fresh water system under the sink.This area connects. Haven't been using the aircon much, just a bit of running to keep them functioning. Freezer water cooling feed line?

I shall find it!!

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

Mangonui

New Zealand

On 17 January 2019 at 01:33 "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
 

Danny,


Thanks for the reply.  I can't imagine another reason.  The insulation is soaked around and above that insulation bottom to wall joint, and the insulation was pourous and cracked.  It wasn't wet above the joint very far.  If it were the seal leaking cold air then the wet would start at the top.

I guess I'm just lucky.

Duane

 


 


 


New Member Addition Request

Julie Bradley <redjuliebradley@...>
 

Hello Mark,  Will you please add mt husband Glen to the Yahoo Amel Group? His email address is  gjbradley1@...   It seems heavily weighed with maintenance, circuitry and electronics issues and he's your man.  Many thanks,  Julie 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Member Addition Request

Mark Erdos
 

H Julie,

 

The yahoo group format prevents me from adding members myself (go figure). Glen can add his own email to the group and I, or one of the other moderators, will approve it.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 5:17 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...; Glen Bradley
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Member Addition Request

 

 

Hello Mark,  Will you please add mt husband Glen to the Yahoo Amel Group? His email address is  gjbradley1@...   It seems heavily weighed with maintenance, circuitry and electronics issues and he's your man.  Many thanks,  Julie 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main Sail Furling Motor Issue

Duane Siegfri
 

Chuck,

I had a few minutes and went looking for the parts on the forum.  Here's what I found:

For the Manual Mainsail Furler:
===================================

Bearings: Source , Motion Industries - Tapered bearing item # 32009xm-90kmi   , Bore 45mm, OD. 75mm, Width 20mm , Manufacturer Timken

Ball Bearing , item # 9105k Bore 25mm, OD. 47mm, Width 12mm  Manufacturer Fafnir 

Oil Seals : Source , Metric Seals Inc. 45mmX60mmX7mm    25mmX33mm X6mm  

You will need one each of bearings and seals

Pat

SM Shenanigans

=================================


If you find the seals and bearings for the motorized gearbox you might post them.  


Duane


Re: Since we are talking about seals...

Paul Stascavage
 

Bill,

Thanks for taking the time to do this write up. It was very informative and very well done. The link to the seal puller tool was greatly appreciated.

Your contributions as well as all the other seasoned owners and former owners on this forum are greatly appreciated.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM 466 S/V Rita Kathryn
St Augustine, Florida


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main Sail Furling Motor Issue

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Thanks Ryan,
I just arrived in st.martin from bvis. After my body quites rattling from the trip I'm going to open her up. I'll see what I can find. If it's a motor issue beyond my capabilities I'll check out who you recommend. I also got a lead from shrimpies net named Dave from company Custom Fit. Hope to see you down the road. 
Chuck Joy SM #388
Marigot Bay SMX

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:57 AM Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Chuck,

We had the exact same symptoms as you when we were approaching St Maarten a couple months ago -- the motor was getting power, but it wouldn't turn.  Upon arrival, I happened to find a brochure for a company called EnerTech (enertechnv.com), which seems to service all of the pumps/motors on a SM.  But before enlisting their services, I took the brushes out of the motor and cleaned them (and blew out the dust inside the motor, which may not be wise) and it started working again, so I didn't end up using them.  I thought I'd solved the problem, but then it crapped out again right as we got to Martinique.  I had Amel rebuild it, and they said one of the power wires was actually broken off inside the motor and just making intermittent contact!  I'm sure any motor company could fix that.

I've also seen a couple mentions in this thread that the mizzen furling gearbox is water-lubricated.  I do not believe this is correct.  I replaced mine with a new one from Amel some months ago, and it arrived completely full of grease.  When I was visiting Amel Caraïbes, I asked them if it was supposed to be full of grease and they said yes.  I think we should all be putting grease in there.  Additionally, there is a seal around the shaft at the top which would prevent water ingress, so washing it with water shouldn't do anything.  On my failed gearbox, this seal had disintegrated and there was no grease inside.  Finally, there are no drain holes in the bottom.  There are a couple indentations that I believe are to insert pin pliers to unscrew the bottom, but they don't go all the way through.  There is no way for the rinse water to get out, if it could even get in.

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Charlotte Amalie, USVI

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 12:50 AM Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you Duane! I’ll have a good read,  quite appreciated 

Porter 


On Jan 15, 2019, at 10:02 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Porter, 


I didn't do a write up on the motor gearboxes, just the manual gearbox.  You can find that here: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/search/photos?query=gearbox#zax/albums_449168476.


Note that the second link has the bearings used, but I didn't see the oil seals listed.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine blower fan

smiles bernard
 

Thanks for this Danny

Yes I agree - on our old boat we had a Rutland that worked well in light airs but still did not add much with the wind behind

I do love the 3 way charging we have onboard. Solar/wind and water from the prop. Amazing power options. We never charge with the engine. 

But our wind gen is looking increasingly sad and it soon time to replace it or switch it to solar. 

Putting a wind gen on top of our mizzen would be a super solution but the trusting stay in my older Maramu gets in the way of the mast head top surface 
So I’m considering just moving to more solar. If money were not a limiting factor (!) I would completely remove the stainless rear arch. Currently this holds a 200w domestic Panasonic solar which is great but I’d prefer to move to pivotable solar mounted on the side rails and a nice clutter free stern for a Hydrovane. I really miss having a wind vane and of course amongst its other benefits it reduces power consumption a great deal. 

Many thanks for all the thoughts and experience.  

You all make this a wonderful forum. 


All the best

Miles


On 16 Jan 2019, at 20:49, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Miles, our Super Wind 350 wind gen is on top of the mizzen. Very pleased with its placement and performance. I agree with Alan, wind forward of the beam when sailing makes it more effective. Under 10 knot apparent it does very little. 15 knots, quite good, 20 and over we are "cooking with gas"

I like the combination of wind and solar.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean pearl

On 17 January 2019 at 04:16 "smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Miles 


I wish my wind gen was up on the mizzen mast - makes loads of sense. 

Although .  . . . I’d be interested to hear how it performs with the wider motion at sea / on passage  ?

Actually from my experience the wind gens are great at anchor but not so useful on passages so perhaps it’s a mute point and the main focus for installation should just be an at anchor solution?


All the very best
Miles 
Maramu 46 #162

 

On 15 Jan 2019, at 21:54, Miles Bidwell milesbid@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Re: Julie
You and Glen have much to contribute . I remember adding a wind generator to my mizzenmast with your help almost 20 years ago (is that really possible ?) and I know about the emergency fixes you did on you circumnavigation. I am delighted to be in touch with you again .

Regards,
Miles
S/y Ladybug sm 216 , Le Marin, Martinique

 


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stern arch Amel 54

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Peter,

the aluminum painted white arch is made by the company SECTEUR BLANC in La Rochelle/France. This company is mainly a rigger (SELDEN representative in La Rochelle) and handles maintenance and rigging works on many AMEL Yachts.
The aluminum arch is indeed a very nice piece of hardware, a bit expensive though, compared to a stainless steel tube one, but much more elegant (by far). You will ask Franck CHIVE, the manager, a quotation for that. He will certainly tell you to sail to La Rochelle to have it installed.
E-mail is secteurblanc at orange dot fr

Enjoy your AMEL 54.

Olivier

On Thursday, January 17, 2019, 3:30:20 PM GMT+1, peter.tiner@... [amelyachtowners]


 

Hi

I´m new to this group and so impressed by all the good tips and help coming through to Amel users – wow this is really valuable.

Being now, since a couple of months proud owner to an Amel 54, ideas are coming up.

What about stern arches, i´ve seen stainless tube,steel ones and also on newer (2010-2011) Amel 54.s, a white one. Difficult to judge whether it´s coated aluminum or plastic but I guess alu. I have some good shipyards with stainless steel welders close but maybe it´s stupid to reinvent the wheel…

My plan is to primarily use it for solar panels but also for hanging the dingy there during local sailing.

So, a couple of questions arise:

-Is it possible to buy one and have it transported? If so preferably from somewhere in Europe as I live in Sweden?

-Are there any drawings accessible out there?

-Any pros and cons for the white (alu) and the pipe version?


All comments and ideas are so welcome.


Thanks a lot in advance

\Peter Tinér

Amel 54 #52, Maiken

Gothenburg, Sweden


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main Sail Furling Motor Issue

Ryan Meador
 

Chuck,

We had the exact same symptoms as you when we were approaching St Maarten a couple months ago -- the motor was getting power, but it wouldn't turn.  Upon arrival, I happened to find a brochure for a company called EnerTech (enertechnv.com), which seems to service all of the pumps/motors on a SM.  But before enlisting their services, I took the brushes out of the motor and cleaned them (and blew out the dust inside the motor, which may not be wise) and it started working again, so I didn't end up using them.  I thought I'd solved the problem, but then it crapped out again right as we got to Martinique.  I had Amel rebuild it, and they said one of the power wires was actually broken off inside the motor and just making intermittent contact!  I'm sure any motor company could fix that.

I've also seen a couple mentions in this thread that the mizzen furling gearbox is water-lubricated.  I do not believe this is correct.  I replaced mine with a new one from Amel some months ago, and it arrived completely full of grease.  When I was visiting Amel Caraïbes, I asked them if it was supposed to be full of grease and they said yes.  I think we should all be putting grease in there.  Additionally, there is a seal around the shaft at the top which would prevent water ingress, so washing it with water shouldn't do anything.  On my failed gearbox, this seal had disintegrated and there was no grease inside.  Finally, there are no drain holes in the bottom.  There are a couple indentations that I believe are to insert pin pliers to unscrew the bottom, but they don't go all the way through.  There is no way for the rinse water to get out, if it could even get in.

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Charlotte Amalie, USVI


On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 12:50 AM Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you Duane! I’ll have a good read,  quite appreciated 

Porter 


On Jan 15, 2019, at 10:02 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Porter, 


I didn't do a write up on the motor gearboxes, just the manual gearbox.  You can find that here: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/search/photos?query=gearbox#zax/albums_449168476.


Note that the second link has the bearings used, but I didn't see the oil seals listed.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477