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Re: Spade Anchor

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello Paul,

I am a bit surprised your Rocna is not working as you expect; ours was brilliant (on our previous boat) even with a 180 degree wind shift.  Does yours have the roll over bar?  

I had a CQR before on Eleuthera and this was pretty bad so having found a ULTRA dealer who gave me a big discount, I went for it.  If you do ULTRA, the 35Kg has worked perfectly for us. The 45KG should also fit.  Ensure you get the ULTRA swivel and chain claw.  Both are great kit esp the swivel which always brings the anchor aboard right side up.

GL

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007, Fiji

On 20 Jul 2019, at 05:32, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:

We have lost confidence in our Rocna anchor, it served us well for over two years, but this season we have dragged several times, It happens when wind shift 180 degree, then we have slowly slipped backwards. After searching the market we have come to the conclusion that Spade is probably one of te best anchors, great holding power and very god 180 degree resetting.
Now my questions to you out there who have a spade anchor, What size do you have? what is the largest one can fit without major modifications on an SM? 
Would prefer the 45 kg S180 if it fits
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Horta The Azores


Re: Spade Anchor

Matt Salatino
 

Fatty Goodlander wrote an excellent book on anchoring.
He has a technique that is simple and foolproof.
I recommend his method, and his book.
I’m in no way related, just a happy reader.....
We had a Rocna, by the way, on our previous Moody. Worked fine, even in reversals.
I think technique has a big impact on anchoring success.
We’re equipping our new Amel with an Ultra..... The Rocna won’t fit in the bow sprit.....

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Jul 19, 2019, at 3:03 PM, Ian <parkianj@...> wrote:

I switched to Rocna after the shaft on my Spade bent. The shank on the spade is hollow. It may well have caught in rock. I don’t know. But the Spade should fit easily in the bow roller.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96




Re: Spade Anchor

Ian Park
 

I switched to Rocna after the shaft on my Spade bent. The shank on the spade is hollow. It may well have caught in rock. I don’t know. But the Spade should fit easily in the bow roller.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: Spade Anchor

david bruce
 

We have Spade on our Santorin, so no help here on sizing for you, but i will say that we are planning on switching to 25 kg Rocna as i feel the Spade can be difficult to set in harder packed sand, ( have seen it skipping) and also doesn t seem to punch through weed as well as i d like.   John Haries of Affordable Adventure Cruising speaks highly of the Spade and has taken pains to point out the 180 deg wind shift issue w the Rocna.  I might now look at the Ultra as Davi suggests.  Ultimately i guess there is no perfect anchor and technique counts for a lot.  
Good luck, 
Dave Bruce
sv Liesse  SN006 


On Jul 19, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:

We have lost confidence in our Rocna anchor, it served us well for over two years, but this season we have dragged several times, It happens when wind shift 180 degree, then we have slowly slipped backwards. After searching the market we have come to the conclusion that Spade is probably one of te best anchors, great holding power and very god 180 degree resetting.
Now my questions to you out there who have a spade anchor, What size do you have? what is the largest one can fit without major modifications on an SM? 
Would prefer the 45 kg S180 if it fits
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Horta The Azores


Re: Spade Anchor

Davi Rozgonyi
 

I'd look into an ultra. It's what we're upgrading to from the rocna. No roll bar, able to oversize, mud doesn't stick.... Sounds perfect except the price. 


Spade Anchor

Paul Osterberg
 

We have lost confidence in our Rocna anchor, it served us well for over two years, but this season we have dragged several times, It happens when wind shift 180 degree, then we have slowly slipped backwards. After searching the market we have come to the conclusion that Spade is probably one of te best anchors, great holding power and very god 180 degree resetting.
Now my questions to you out there who have a spade anchor, What size do you have? what is the largest one can fit without major modifications on an SM? 
Would prefer the 45 kg S180 if it fits
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Horta The Azores


Re: Forward and Captains Berth Panel Lining

Thomas Kleman
 

My wife just covered this area with Brisa ultra leather (distressed chamois is the color) in the same pleated pattern as is used in the master stateroom. We attached it with Velcro as is done in various other areas of a SM.

Thomas Kleman
SM2K 422


Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

Alan Leslie
 

We had an alloy weldment made up from alloy stock and had it welded to the boom (like the 54) so we never will have this issue again. I don't know why Amel decided to use these blocks and the flimsy mounting system when they had weldments on the Maramu previously and they went back to that on the 54.
There's a picture of what we did on here somewhere.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

eric freedman
 

Hi Paul,

I did the same thing on Kimberlite as the fixture on the mast was cracked. I bought a piece of flat aluminum stock

And installed it with I think 4 or 6 allen head cap screws.

Looking forward to meeting up with you.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Stascavage via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 12:53 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Main sheet boom slider broken

 

Hello Eric,

My apologies if I was not clear. The blocks in the attached photo are the attachment points for the main sheet on the main boom. The block to the right in the photo was cracked, wiggled, and soon to fail. We had a new one fabricated in VA (see original post). 

The original block was screwed into the aluminum track (see photo of forward view of missen boom). This piece of aluminum is only about 1/8 inch thick. 

When i installed the new fabricated block and the one aft of it I slid the fabricated plates on top of the existing track and bolted them together with 1/4-20 Alan screws. Hence there is now 3/8 th’s inches of meat holding the block in place rather than the original 1/8 th inch. 

We hope to travel to your neck of the woods and Newport sometime mid August.  I will reach out to you when we have a better idea of our plans. 

All the best,

Paul Stascavage 

SM #466 s/v Rita Kathryn 
Currently Exploring City Island, NY

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

Paul Stascavage
 

Hello Eric,

My apologies if I was not clear. The blocks in the attached photo are the attachment points for the main sheet on the main boom. The block to the right in the photo was cracked, wiggled, and soon to fail. We had a new one fabricated in VA (see original post). 

The original block was screwed into the aluminum track (see photo of forward view of missen boom). This piece of aluminum is only about 1/8 inch thick. 

When i installed the new fabricated block and the one aft of it I slid the fabricated plates on top of the existing track and bolted them together with 1/4-20 Alan screws. Hence there is now 3/8 th’s inches of meat holding the block in place rather than the original 1/8 th inch. 

We hope to travel to your neck of the woods and Newport sometime mid August.  I will reach out to you when we have a better idea of our plans. 

All the best,

Paul Stascavage 

SM #466 s/v Rita Kathryn 
Currently Exploring City Island, NY

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: Shore power contactor burnt out

Craig Briggs
 
Edited

Eamonn,

You can, indeed, remove the generator end without pulling the whole unit. If you can diagnose the problem as the rotor, that is very simple to pull, but if you can't pin it down the whole generator end is not much more work to remove. You'll want to separate the rotor and stator so you're not schlepping too much weight. No need to pull the diesel motor end.

I got my rotor rewound (a 6kw Northern Lights - similar to your Onan) in Venezuela for under $200 (two hundred) US. Try an industrial generator shop that doesn't have "marine" or "Onan" in it's name. It's just a bunch of generic wire and any competent shop can do the work.  An entirely new generator end should be about $2,000 so keep shopping around as 2000 euros seems very high for a rewind. (Unless most of it is for labor to pull the generator, which you can easily do yourself and just give them the rotor. Send me 10% for all the money you'll save ;-)

Good luck with it,
Craig Briggs (the incurable DIY guy), SN68 Sangaris
PS.  I'd look around Palermo - Trapani is pretty thin on industrial resources.


Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

eric freedman
 

Hi Paul,

Where is the plate that you replaced located?

What does it do?

 

I am at The Huntington Yacht Club.

Are you planning  to head this way?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Stascavage via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 10:45 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Main sheet boom slider broken

 

Good day fellow sailors/repairmen.

Just to follow up on this posting, although my block was cracking, it was not in really bad shape. Hence, I did what many of us do and put the task at the bottom of the todo list.

Well, time doing what it does best, things changed for the worse.  After inspecting the block recently, I had to bite the bullet and get the job done.  It was a pain to drill out the screws that I could not remove with an impact driver, but once everything was drilled out, the job wasn’t too bad.

In evaluating the cause for the failure, it seemed to me that the weak link in the chain was the size of the original screws and the minimal thickness of the aluminum track that the screws were threaded into.  Hence, when re-installing the new block (and the one aft that needed to be removed to slide out the failed one), rather than re-tapping for the same size screws in an offset position, I did something different. 

I had 1/4 inch aluminum backing plates fabricated (see photos).  These were drilled and tapped to accommodate 1/4-20 alan head screws (the blocks also had to be drilled to accommodate the larger screws).  We maneuvered these into place using string attached to the ends of the plates, and with some finesse and patience, we were able to line it all up and bolt everything together. 

This method should be much stronger than the original installation, and enabled me to keep the blocks in their original location.

Hope this may be of some use to those who have yet to deal with this issue.  BOAT - Broken Or About To.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Currently Exploring City Island, NY

www.RitaKathryn.com


Forward and Captains Berth Panel Lining

Paul Stascavage
 

Good day all.

We are looking to replace the lining material on the forward berth and captains berth wall panels (see attached photos).  The current material is similar if not the same as that which covers the foam berth mattresses and appear to be glued on.  The lining is worn, stained , etc.  We wish to replace it with the same material that lines our ceilings and shower walls - a vinyl like material that will be more durable and easier to clean/maintain (we were able to order some from Amel).

I believe earlier SM had the pleated cushion material velcroed into place in the forward berth.  Not sure what the earlier models had in the captains berth.  Does anyone have any experience dealing with re-lining these areas? I don’t know if these panels are removable or how we should proceed as it appears it would be quite difficult to deal with the areas that meet the mahogany wood bulkheads..

Any and all ideas/assistance will be greatly appreciated.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Currently Exploring City Island, NY

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

Paul Stascavage
 

Good day fellow sailors/repairmen.

Just to follow up on this posting, although my block was cracking, it was not in really bad shape. Hence, I did what many of us do and put the task at the bottom of the todo list.

Well, time doing what it does best, things changed for the worse.  After inspecting the block recently, I had to bite the bullet and get the job done.  It was a pain to drill out the screws that I could not remove with an impact driver, but once everything was drilled out, the job wasn’t too bad.

In evaluating the cause for the failure, it seemed to me that the weak link in the chain was the size of the original screws and the minimal thickness of the aluminum track that the screws were threaded into.  Hence, when re-installing the new block (and the one aft that needed to be removed to slide out the failed one), rather than re-tapping for the same size screws in an offset position, I did something different. 

I had 1/4 inch aluminum backing plates fabricated (see photos).  These were drilled and tapped to accommodate 1/4-20 alan head screws (the blocks also had to be drilled to accommodate the larger screws).  We maneuvered these into place using string attached to the ends of the plates, and with some finesse and patience, we were able to line it all up and bolt everything together. 

This method should be much stronger than the original installation, and enabled me to keep the blocks in their original location.

Hope this may be of some use to those who have yet to deal with this issue.  BOAT - Broken Or About To.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Currently Exploring City Island, NY

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: Shore power contactor burnt out

Eamonn Washington
 

Hi

the failed contactor also melted the socket leaving the boat for the shore, and it turns out also damaged either the stator or rotor of the generator with an estimated rewind price of around 2000 euros and also involves taking the generator out of the boat for a week.

I could get it repaired in Sicily, but if anyone can recommend a place to repair the generator in the Western Mediterranean I would appreciate it.  We can live without the generator for a month or so.  Is it really necessary to remove the Onan 6.5kW generator to repair the stator or rotor?
 
Thanks

--
Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
Currently in Trapani, Sicliy, Italy.


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

Brass Ring <brassring44@...>
 

Thanks for the information Bill, saved me from thumbing thru the Yacht School bible, formerly AMEL School, to verify which pump was installed.  
-- 
Mark Mueller
email - brass.ring@...
A54 


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

Brass Ring <brassring44@...>
 

Lior, thank you for the data.  I will post any information I find if I locate a US source.

--
Mark Mueller
email - brass.ring@pobox.com
A54


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

 

Lior and others interested:

Unless you were the original owner, be careful to assume that is what is currently on your boat was actually Amel OEM installed equipment.

This is the Amel SM & early 54 OEM Reya 66B Freshwater Pump:
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This is the 54 OEM Reya 88b freshwater pump that was installed on most 54s
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This is the SM & 54 OEM S40 OEM Anchor Wash Pump
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Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:30 AM Lior Keydar via Groups.Io <sharona246=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bill,

I checked again. The 66B is installed on my boat as an anchor wash pump.

Lior


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

Lior Keydar <sharona246@...>
 

Bill,

I checked again. The 66B is installed on my boat as an anchor wash pump.

Lior


Re: A.M.F.A fresh water pump on A54

 

Lior,

Kit 66B is NOT anchor wash. It is the standard freshwater pump for SMs. I am sure that there are SM owners that will want the 66B kit.

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 2:31 AM Lior Keydar via Groups.Io <sharona246=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am sending the file that was with the kit. It was also writing Kit A88 219450 (in hand writing, i am not sure...)
Sorry, I did not buy it my self. This is the information that was with the parts.
I have also the spare kit for A66B (anchor wash pump). For this kit it is written REYA CODE: 219432 "kit de maintenance A66B"

I hope it helps

Lior
SHARONA A54 #18

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