Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] The Mechanics of Battery Equalization
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Hi Bill and all:
Yes, my boat has 24 vdc on the “ 24 vdc Permanent” terminals at the back (outboard) area of the nav station even with the battery main disconnects open, confirming that this is what we call in the aviation industry a “hot battery buss”. I am uncertain what exactly is wired to this buss as the original Amel drawings don’t give any clews, but whatever loads are here I would like to make sure they won’t be damaged at equalization voltage of 31 vdc, How did you, or others, disconnect this buss during equalization? Gary S. Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM 2000 #335 St. John’s USVI
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting boat S of Hurricane belt
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Bill: What brand paint was used. Was the anti-skid nature of the deck able to be maintained.
Gary S. Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM 2000 # 335 Francis Bay St. John
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Re: Mainsail Motor Cover
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting boat S of Hurricane belt
Kent, Steve's job was great. with his permission, a photo is in your Amel School Book.
On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 12:43 PM Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting boat S of Hurricane belt
Stephen Davis
Hi Kent,
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We had the decks and hull painted on Aloha while in Trinidad in 2016. We hauled at Powerboats, used a contractor located in there yard, and have been very pleased with the result. We wanted to preserve the Amel faux teak look on deck, and the contractor worked with us to develop a technique to do this with what I consider to be a better than original look, and a bit cooler to walk on. Bill R. Has seen Aloha after the paint was done, and maybe he can offer an opinion on the end result. Not to worry Bill, you can’t hurt my feelings:) I agree with Bill that you should avoid doing the work in Columbia. Sometimes you get what you pay for, and Trinidad has some very skilled workers that are much easier to communicate with. The days of truly cheap work are gone, but it will still be dramatically less money than you will pay in the USA for the same work. We had 6 weeks to get the painting done, and the contractor had 5 guys on the boat 6 or 7 days a week, and finished a week early. My experience with Powerboats was excellent, and had no complaints. As a matter of fact, it was the best service I’ve ever had in any yard. I stayed on the boat while the work was being done, and .the yard put a house AC unit on my main hatch which cost us about $4 a day. Best money I ever spent, and it kept us very comfy. I was happy I stayed on the boat, as I caught a couple of potential mistakes, and solved some problems that only the owner could. FYI...Liz went back to the USA after a week and a half, and can’t say that I blame her. I’m not on the boat at the moment, but can send you detailed contact info within a couple of days. In the meantime, the contractors name is Allen Dowden, and if you contact the office at Power Boats, they will put you in touch with him. He has been in the fiberglass and painting business there for over 30 years, and knows his stuff. I’m hoping he has not retired, as he was contemplating that when we were there. Say hi for me if you talk to him. If you would like any more info or pictures send me a personal email, or call me on my cell. Steve Davis Aloha SM 72 Ko Olina, Hawaii
On Feb 1, 2019, at 6:47 AM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting boat S of Hurricane belt
amelforme
Hello Kent and Iris. I am sure you will receive a variety of opinions regarding your boat yard question. Here is mine based on having worked in several different yards as a young man and later having been involved with shipyards all over the world when selling boats and getting them serviced/improved/refit.
The basic rule is that unless you have a long term, completely satisfactory, totally trusting, respectful and mutually beneficial relationship with a shipyard, don’t leave your boat there for repairs unless you are there at least once a day. Being in foreign countries only adds to the degree of probable challenges when you factor in language barriers and cultural differences. Even at yards new to you that come highly recommended by folks you trust, you need to have a serious “sniff test” and a cautious attitude until you are confident that the yard has the ability, tools and expertise to complete any job to your satisfaction. If you are uncomfortable with any aspect of the process, don’t move forward until that situation is rectified. Get estimates and job descriptions in writing and assume nothing. You don’t need to be strident or a bad ass. Just try to be as clear and concise as you can be and any good yard that wants to earn a profit and keep you happy as well will appreciate these efforts. Again, assume nothing.
You reason you need to visit the yard every day that work is being performed is to catch anything that isn’t as agreed or looks like it might evolve in a situation totally off the rails and a major train wreck. While most yards can be trusted to do basic bottom service unsupervised, Amel’s are different enough with the Amel drive and bow thruster that you need to understand the job and how to properly accomplish it to supervise the repairs if you are not doing them yourself. I have had two cases in recent years where a client left his boat in a shipyard for bottom service and other repairs and was quoted a bottom prep job that included ‘heavy sanding’. Turned out the heavy sanding was sand blasting, something that every laminate expert will tell you should never be done. The only reason this sand blasting was discovered was because the boats soon manifested severe osmotic reactions/blisters and sand was found imbedded in the outer layers of laminate during the blister repair process. Other medias are a better choice for blasting of old paint but never let anyone sand blast the bottom of your boat.
Not trying to be paranoid, but “Trust but verify “ is the cardinal rule as you proceed. There are plenty of really top notch yards throughout the world. Do all you can to ensure that the yard you are considering is amongst them. Good luck.
Have fun with your Amel, and hold her hand while in the shipyard…
Joel
JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C. THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE Office 954-462-5869 Cell 954-812-2485
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Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 10:01 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting boat S of Hurricane belt
Hi All,
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Re: SM2K Main Sail Furling Motor Act 2
Donald Patterson
Would have a name for the rebuilder and a telephone number for the company that you used? My experience has been that they are not familiar with a 4 wire DC 12 volt motor. Don Patterson
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM2K Main Sail Furling Motor Act 2
Donald Patterson
If I find a source I will post it.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting boat S of Hurricane belt
Kent, I do not recommend it and I used it, but here it is: Ferroalquimar Albornoz, Km 3 Via Mamonal , Cartagena, Colombia Tel:+57 3205653293 http://www.ferroalquimar.com/, jcouso@... and the person I dealt with directly was Ms. Pura Rey <purarey@...> I am not sure she is still there. All of the yard workers that worked there at the time I hauled were not yard employees and were unsupervised. I hired a trusted Spanish speaking guy who stayed on my boat 24/7 and supervised the work. I was present during daylight hours. I used a pilot from the yard and high tide to get into the haulout slip without running aground. They have a 40-ton travel lift that will bend your life-rail unless you do something to mitigate this.
On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:31 AM Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting boat S of Hurricane belt
Thanks Bill. I’ve left the boat at Peakes for a Summer several years ago. They were well organized, but expensive, I thought.
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I’ve heard you can get good work done for less money in Columbia. Know anything about that? Eric? Thanks again. Kent & Iris SM243 Kristy Bill Rouse wrote: Kent & Iris, I believe Trinidad is the best place for this in the southern Caribbean. Here are some suggestions: Peaks yard in Chaguaramas, Trinidad. http://peakeyachts.com/ +1 (868) 634-4420 & +1 (868) 634-4423 Email: mail"at"peakeyachts.com Address: Lot #5 Western Main Road Chaguaramas Also, an independent guy: Nigel 1-868-282-2024 cell. I have used Nigel several times...all good. He may not be allowed in Peaks as they have their own contract people. Nigel used to have a shop at Coral Cove Marina and Yard Chaguaramas, Trinidad Also, if you need just a worker for cleaning, polish, etc: Dwayne Shuffler 1-868-286-4947 cell dwayneshuffler@... I used Dwayne for cleaning, polishing, and trained him on how to paint the faux caulking on Amels. He is the one that painted our deck faux caulking cream color using a striping tool. Also, I had the paint mixed at the paint shop at Coral Cove Marina. While you are there be sure to meet Jesse James (jessejamesmembersonly@... and 1-868-683-5202). Jesse is the station host for SSCA and OCC, he operates a taxi and tour service, he runs an association of local businesses which are in the marine business (YSATT). Peaks, Coral Cove and almost every business in Chaguaramas is a member of YSATT. I hope this helps. Kent wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting boat S of Hurricane belt
Kent & Iris, I believe Trinidad is the best place for this in the southern Caribbean. Here are some suggestions: Peaks yard in Chaguaramas, Trinidad. http://peakeyachts.com/ +1 (868) 634-4420 & +1 (868) 634-4423 Email: mail"at"peakeyachts.com Address: Lot #5 Western Main Road Chaguaramas Also, an independent guy: Nigel 1-868-282-2024 cell. I have used Nigel several times...all good. He may not be allowed in Peaks as they have their own contract people. Nigel used to have a shop at Coral Cove Marina and Yard Chaguaramas, Trinidad Also, if you need just a worker for cleaning, polish, etc: Dwayne Shuffler 1-868-286-4947 cell dwayneshuffler@... I used Dwayne for cleaning, polishing, and trained him on how to paint the faux caulking on Amels. He is the one that painted our deck faux caulking cream color using a striping tool. Also, I had the paint mixed at the paint shop at Coral Cove Marina. While you are there be sure to meet Jesse James (jessejamesmembersonly@... and 1-868-683-5202). Jesse is the station host for SSCA and OCC, he operates a taxi and tour service, he runs an association of local businesses which are in the marine business (YSATT). Peaks, Coral Cove and almost every business in Chaguaramas is a member of YSATT. I hope this helps.
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Painting boat S of Hurricane belt
Hi All,
We need to have Kristy’s decks and cabin sides worked on. When I pulled the stainless steel trim around the windows off to remove the interior panels off for revarnishing, I found significant blistering of the gel coat under the trim. We’ll be taking her S to Trinidad, Columbia, or Panama by this Spring and want to find a place to have a professional job done at a reasonable price. Does anyone have experience in one of these venues? Is the work such that you would leave the boat with them for a few weeks while it’s being done, or would you want to be there the whole time? Thanks for any thoughts. Kent & Iris SM 243 Kristy
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Re: SM2K Main Sail Furling Motor Act 2
rossny@mail.com
Hi guys, Your motors are repurposed auto/truck starter motors. Bring to the closest auto electric starter shop and ask. If there is hesitation then go to the next, you will find someone to rebuild them. I had my Maramu motors done in ft laud,fl,us. One had broken magnets reglued and other just cleaned, cost about 200us. Personally, I wish I had your problem, ha. Good luck and as Joel says enjoy your amel.... Still stuck in ny, without an Amel, Ross Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM2K Main Sail Furling Motor Act 2
My wife corrected me. I should have used 'empathy'. It it shows a stronger feeling and understanding.
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:34 PM Chuck Lacey <clacey9@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM2K Main Sail Furling Motor Act 2
Hi Don, I have complete sympathy with you and wish you the absolute best of luck on your quest for a 12v outhaul motor. I am looking for a 24v mainsail furling motor. If anyone has had recent experience with this please let me know. Chuck SM #388
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 5:12 PM donald patterson donaldpatterson533@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Furler motors & Headsail - Santorin
JOHN HAYES
Hi Don
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I’m dealing with similar problems and have 2 motors with a company in Petone near Wellington I’m on my boat and in and out of cover If you are in NZ as seems and to avoid cluttering others inboxes try calling me on 021546072 or an email to johnhayes862@... early next week and I’ll let you know how good the fellow is. Seems good but not really sure Best John
On 31/01/2019, at 5:04 PM, donald patterson donaldpatterson533@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM2K Main Sail Furling Motor Act 2
Donald Patterson
Based on my telephone call to Amel last week they are not available. If you find a source would you please provide it to me.
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On Jan 31, 2019, at 3:36 PM, clacey9@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Furler motors & Headsail - Santorin
Donald Patterson
I have to one company but they were not familiar with the four configuration. Would know of a company that has rebuilt these motors?
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On Jan 31, 2019, at 12:07 AM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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SM2K Main Sail Furling Motor Act 2
Hi All, I looked for my earlier post regarding my mainsail furling motor but could not find it to tag onto. As you might remember mine cease to work and thanks for all the responses on what to look for. It was not the gearbox but the motor. It had water in the white plastic housing and upon opening it up there was corrosion and a cracked in half magnet. DOA? If so I thought I remembering someone ordering furling motors directly as not to incur Amel markup. Am I wrong on this and are they the only source? If so that is fine (I guess). Any suggestions for speediest fix would be appreciated. Chuck Joy SM #388 St. Martin
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Mainsail Motor Covers
oceanhobo@...
I can’t find the reference number for the Plastimo covers used on the mainsail furling and outhaul motors. I recall it was posted here some 2 years ago. Can anyone help?
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