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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

Mark Erdos
 

Craig,

 

Below is really bad advice. Please don’t sail this way. It is irresponsible.

 

On Cream Puff we run radar at night (even in a full moon) and have a Class A AIS that overlays onto our NobelTec Time Zero Navigation Computer and chart display (of which we have a mirror backup system). The AIS has an alarm and sounds until silenced when any target is within five miles. Any vessel with a 2 mile CPA or less we hail via VHF to ensure we are both aware of each other’s COG and discuss who may alter course if needed to ensure we pass safely. i.e.  recently asked a large freighter to adjust 10 degrees to port since we had 40 knot winds and the captain was very accommodating and saved us from having to tack (we were willing to tack, and we had the right of way, but his flexibility was greatly appreciated).

 

I just cannot imagine sailing with my eyes closed. That is just plain crazy.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2018 6:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

 

 

Hi Craig, I’ve kept my boat simple. No radar at all. My only chartplotter is Navionics on my iPad. Navionics cannot display the AIS.. Instead the AIS displays on Vespers own app. So it isn’t very integrated. (No radar because I do a lot of single-handed passages, and I see radar as a distraction - I’d rather spend my limited resources on other watch keeping activities. I’d rather have AIS than radar.)
Regards Richard M


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

 

Jeff,

Exactly. And, who better to make this point. You are the only member of the Amel Owners Group that is also a lifelong commercial fisherman owning more than one boat, and experienced a loss.

I believe in owning and using commonly available technology to reduce Risk of damage of property and physical injury which may occur on my boat, or others involved. I also believe 100% of Marine Insurance companies believe the same. Today, I believe that in a collision, you would be liable for physical loss and personal injuries, if you choose to navigate without Radar, VHF, and an AIS transceiver.

And, just a reminder, anything any member posts in this group is publicly accessible by interested parties, such as your insurance carrier. I am sure they will not bother to access this information unless you have a loss.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sun, Dec 9, 2018, 15:53 JEFFREY KRAUS jmkraus@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Richard,
If you sail in any areas north of South Carolina, you must be aware that there is an awful lot of fishing activities, long line, draggers, fish/lobster pot fisherman. These vessels range in size from 32 on up, many in the 50-65 foot range. Commercial fisherman ARE NOT required to transmit an AIS signal unless they exceed 65'.
Many draggers and pot fisherman will be engaged in activities that, to a person unfamiliar with their work and how the boats may vary their speeds, stop, turn around, and make movements that seem arbitrary, all without transmitting an AIS signal.
I personally encountered a dragger fleet off the NC coast one night, no fun figuring out what they were, and what they were up to. Often they're too busy to repond to a call, or often, don't give a crap to get back to you. They do have right of way (vessel restricted in ability to maneuver), and they will take advantage of that .
If you would prefer to keep radar off your boat, good luck. 
I might add, dense fog banks will appear out of nowhere, in many areas north of 35N. Many folks don't tune their radar until it's too late. Without having it tuned, you will may feel a sense of FALSE security until it's too late. 
There is, I firmly believe, a law of the ocean, 2 boats on the ocean will find each other. Spend enough time on the ocean, and you'll become a believer of this law.
Best advise, believe it, and take steps to help yourself avoid it's ramifications.

Best,
Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14


On Sun, Dec 09, 2018 at 05:33 PM, Richard Middleton middleton@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Hi Craig, I’ve kept my boat simple. No radar at all. My only chartplotter is Navionics on my iPad. Navionics cannot display the AIS... Instead the AIS displays on Vespers own app. So it isn’t very integrated. (No radar because I do a lot of single-handed passages, and I see radar as a distraction - I’d rather spend my limited resources on other watch keeping activities. I’d rather have AIS than radar.)
Regards Richard M


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

JEFFREY KRAUS
 


Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

Richard Middleton <middleton@...>
 

Hi Craig, I’ve kept my boat simple. No radar at all. My only chartplotter is Navionics on my iPad. Navionics cannot display the AIS. Instead the AIS displays on Vespers own app. So it isn’t very integrated. (No radar because I do a lot of single-handed passages, and I see radar as a distraction - I’d rather spend my limited resources on other watch keeping activities. I’d rather have AIS than radar.)
Regards Richard M


Re: Amel54 SSB installation

Dean Gillies
 

Thank you Roque and Nick.
Much appreciated.

Sent from my iPhone X


Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

Craig Briggs
 

C&G,
I've got the B&G NAIS400 (2 years old) and it does, indeed, like the newer 500 model, have its own GPS, as you note the Vesper does. The GPS antenna is a "mushroom" dome which I've mounted on the dashboard and that can be selected as the system source of GPS, although I get great reception from the built in GPS's on the Zeus's (7" on dash (-9" would be a bit better) and 12" below).

I've got got a dedicated AIS (NAIS) antenna on the mizzen. Have never noticed any issue with limited range, although I've not got a comparison of a main mast mounted antenna.

Sounds like you've got an excellent plan. Th Zeus 12" below is a great supplement to the cockpit unit.and fits the hole for the old Radar - I did need to replace the mounting bracket knobs with hex head bolts and have to slide the adjacent panels out a bit before removing the radar - not a big deal.

Certainly a tablet would do the trick and may be even a little more convenient as you can be anywhere and do all that you could with the Zeus 12", except autopilot, but you're not going to do that from below anyway.

Best piece of our system is the Wireless Remote Bluetooth Autopilot Controller (WR10/BT-1 ). We rarely sit at the helm any more and just sit comfortably around the cockpit using a small tablet to check the chart, or just pop up now and then and scan the MFD. We've also got a Triton 10 and the H5000 displays in the holes of the old sytem, so we can see the key items like depth, speed and wind from a distance, as The Captain intended. :-)

With 20-20 hindsight I think I'd get a different brand VHF. The B&G is a bit clunky to operate with odd button sequences and ours kept jumping to a weather station by itself, which required a factory replacement, although that is likely an isolated incident. That the handset is wireless is great, and that is available in other brands.

Odds and ends: I see they now have a wireless masthead unit and a paddlewhee-less speed transducer, which looks interesting if you're building the system from scratch.

Cheers, Craig SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <carpathia3@...> wrote :

Many thanks for your advice, Alan, Mark, Craig, AIan and Richard, very helpful.


Mark and Ian: I am tempted by the redundancy of a second antenna, but does the 5m difference in height make any noticeable difference for the AIS transponder? I guess this should be compared with the loss coming from the splitter. Again, assuming this makes any difference at all.


Craig, I should have been more precise: the Vesper AIS I intend to buy is the XB8000, which is indeed blackbox, no screen. Preference over the NAIS500 because it has GPS, again for redundancy. I want to install a Zeus3 9” MFD at the helm and will view the AIS info on the Zeus. At some stage later, replace the Furuno radar by a B&G 4G. For chart table visualisation of all NMEA2000 info, I would start with tablet through wifi from the Zeus (any counter advice there?) to save the immediate expense of a second MFD. Plus a computer connection from the USB port of the Vesper.


There is the Paris boat show starting this weekend, so will follow your advice and approach a couple of manufacturers, probably B&G and Garmin. Indeed a fun project! I have developed a tentative multi-year evolution plan, but am sure to have many more questions!


Cheers,


Cathy & Guillaume

s/v Carpathia III – SM2K #293

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 SSB installation

Roque
 

Nick is right! 

Mizzen Backstay: 7 mm and 15025mm 

Em dom, 9 de dez de 2018 às 05:34, Nick Newington ngtnewington@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> escreveu:

 

Hi Dean,


I just checked, the mizzen backstay is 7mm 1X19. Not sure on the length but about 15m. The expense is not an extra metre or two of wire but the fittings especially the two insulators. 

I just came back home from a quick visit to Amelia and had a wonder around the marina. Very few sailing boats use whip antenna’s. It is a motor boat thing normally. I noticed a few quality yachts such as an Oyster 56 and a very smart Dutch aluminium proper voyaging boat, built for high latitude sailing. They both used the same insulated backstay system for their HF radios as I use on Amelia.

Nick

Amelia hull 019 Aml 54 La Palma
On 9 Dec 2018, at 01:08, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi folks,
Can anyone please advise (or point me to a resource) about the length and wire gauge of the Amel 54 backstay. I’m still considering whether to use a starboard backstay or whip antenna!

Many thanks
Dean
SY Stella
A54#154



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 SSB installation

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hi Dean,

I just checked, the mizzen backstay is 7mm 1X19. Not sure on the length but about 15m. The expense is not an extra metre or two of wire but the fittings especially the two insulators. 

I just came back home from a quick visit to Amelia and had a wonder around the marina. Very few sailing boats use whip antenna’s. It is a motor boat thing normally. I noticed a few quality yachts such as an Oyster 56 and a very smart Dutch aluminium proper voyaging boat, built for high latitude sailing. They both used the same insulated backstay system for their HF radios as I use on Amelia.

Nick

Amelia hull 019 Aml 54 La Palma

On 9 Dec 2018, at 01:08, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi folks,
Can anyone please advise (or point me to a resource) about the length and wire gauge of the Amel 54 backstay. I’m still considering whether to use a starboard backstay or whip antenna!

Many thanks
Dean
SY Stella
A54#154



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel54 SSB installation

ngtnewington Newington
 

Dean, you are referring to the mizzen backstay I assume?
if so it is not 10mm, more like 7mm.
I will check my records

Nick


On 9 Dec 2018, at 02:03, Roque Reis ediroque@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi

According to Owner Manual:

Diameter: 10mm
lengh. Total. 19645 mm

Rgds

Roque

Attika  A54 # 117
Paraty

Em sáb, 8 de dez de 2018 às 23:36, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> escreveu:
 

Hi folks,
Can anyone please advise (or point me to a resource) about the length and wire gauge of the Amel 54 backstay. I’m still considering whether to use a starboard backstay or whip antenna!

Many thanks
Dean
SY Stella
A54#154


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel54 SSB installation

Roque
 

Hi

According to Owner Manual:

Diameter: 10mm
lengh. Total. 19645 mm

Rgds

Roque

Attika  A54 # 117
Paraty

Em sáb, 8 de dez de 2018 às 23:36, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> escreveu:

 

Hi folks,
Can anyone please advise (or point me to a resource) about the length and wire gauge of the Amel 54 backstay. I’m still considering whether to use a starboard backstay or whip antenna!

Many thanks
Dean
SY Stella
A54#154


Re: Amel54 SSB installation

Dean Gillies
 

Hi folks,
Can anyone please advise (or point me to a resource) about the length and wire gauge of the Amel 54 backstay. I’m still considering whether to use a starboard backstay or whip antenna!

Many thanks
Dean
SY Stella
A54#154


Re: Cuba

sbmesasailor
 

We landed in Cienfuegas in May 2017 after fooling around in Jardines de la Reina for a few days to snorkel (prior to checking into the country).  We were unmolested while in Jardines de la Reina and Marlin Marina in Cienfuegas was very nice.  It was small and a little hard to get to but the facilities and management were great.  Customs and immigration were the most thorough we had ever experienced but they were not antagonistic or corrupt (expecting handouts).  We took a road trip to Havana (chartered a taxi which wasn't that expensive) and really enjoyed it.  Our only surprize was how difficult it was to get cash and everything has to be done in cash as Cuba doesn't accept US credit cards and there are no ATM machines.  Take plenty of US dollars to exchange to Cuban pesos  or have plenty of currency converted before you go.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu 121


Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

greatketch@...
 

I'll add another vote for a second antenna on the mizzen  I have used an AIS with a splitter and never noticed a performance problem, but having a back up antenna is a good thing.  It is the way Harmonie came to us, and we would not change it.

As for the performance of an AIS antenna at mizzen mast height, that's where ours is.  We routinely see Class A AIS broadcasts from 50 nautical miles away.  Class B broadcasts with their lower power are broadcast power limited, not line of sight.  We expect to see a Class B transmitter by the time it is 10 miles away.  Since we have a Class B transceiver, our expectation is that other vessels will not see us at a range of greater than 10 nautical miles.  This is also not going to be affected by antenna height.  I imagine we could get a little increase in Class B receiving and transmitting range with a higher gain antenna, but probably not doubling it.

While theoretically, an antenna at the mainmast head will increase the receiving range for a Class A AIS, in the real world increasing the range beyond 50 miles, this not likely to be of any real world use. In fact, our MFD can not effectively display AIS targets at that range.

Your instrument upgrade path will can be a fun one!  We are just approaching the end of that path, and it is nice having a system that does everything we want it to do.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

eric freedman
 

Hi,

I cannot tell you how Amel wired your lighting. I would start by finding the circuit breaker that controls that light and see if it working.  However I had a similar problem on Kimberlite in my forward cabin.  The wire started in a cabinet in the forward cabin. I had to lift up  the glued down material, As I followed the wire I stuck a straight pin into the wire to measure the voltage between the wire and the ground wire.

The wire did not have voltage under the material. I then followed the wire along the moldings that ran along the cabin side. They routed out the molding to accommodate the wire. Still nothing under that piece of molding.

The wire continued under a piece of molding that ran across the cabin top inside. 

I finally found a break in the wire and fixed it.

 

In other areas of the boat  I see that they ran wires under the headliner.

I would start by checking the breaker and then tracing the wire. It will probably follow a similar path as I have described either under molding or headliner or other fabric. They were quite cleaver in routing these wires.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2018 9:11 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

 

 

Yes mine as well from the salon main panel however I discovered more breakers....  

 

If you haven't done any electrical work I find it odd that the positive leg is dead...zero volts right?

 

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 8:18 AM Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:

 

I have never seen a CB for the aft cabin lights. They always operate with the main cabin lights CB on the 12v panel.  It's a Maramu, not a Super Maramu and may well be simpler. 

 

Kind regards

 

Graham

Jamesby

Maramu 46 #240

 

 

On Sat, 8 Dec 2018, 11:13 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:

 

Graham,

 

Dumb question but, have you determined the DC breaker for the aft lights is operational?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 6:19 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

 

 

Can anyone help me with an electrical problem in our 1988 Maramu 46 #240.

All the lights in the aft cabin have failed.  We checked all the bulbs,
of course! We have established that the problem is with the positive
cable as we have checked the negative (ground) cable and it has
continuity. 
We've established that, if we get power to any one of the light
fittings, all will then work. 

We can't work out how the positive cable gets from the circuit breaker
on the 12v panel and the first light in the aft cabin.  All the cables
are hidden. 

If anyone has had this problem before or has access to a cable routing
diagram, I'd be glad of your experience. 

Kind regards

Graham

Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

Cathy & Guillaume
 

Many thanks for your advice, Alan, Mark, Craig, AIan and Richard, very helpful.


Mark and Ian: I am tempted by the redundancy of a second antenna, but does the 5m difference in height make any noticeable difference for the AIS transponder? I guess this should be compared with the loss coming from the splitter. Again, assuming this makes any difference at all.


Craig, I should have been more precise: the Vesper AIS I intend to buy is the XB8000, which is indeed blackbox, no screen. Preference over the NAIS500 because it has GPS, again for redundancy. I want to install a Zeus3 9” MFD at the helm and will view the AIS info on the Zeus. At some stage later, replace the Furuno radar by a B&G 4G. For chart table visualisation of all NMEA2000 info, I would start with tablet through wifi from the Zeus (any counter advice there?) to save the immediate expense of a second MFD. Plus a computer connection from the USB port of the Vesper.


There is the Paris boat show starting this weekend, so will follow your advice and approach a couple of manufacturers, probably B&G and Garmin. Indeed a fun project! I have developed a tentative multi-year evolution plan, but am sure to have many more questions!


Cheers,


Cathy & Guillaume

s/v Carpathia III – SM2K #293

 


Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Richard,
I had not picked up on that, nor that the Vesper Blue Box is also a Wi-fi router. 

Does your IPad also include chart and radar along with the Vesper's AIS, as the B&G system does? With B&G, and I'm sure the other major players, Garmin and Flir/Raymarine, an Ipad or other smart device can act exactly like another controlling MFD except for autopilot control.

Cheers,
Craig


---In amelyachtowners@..., <middleton@...> wrote :

Craig might not know this but Vesper does sell both a black box AIS transponder and one with a display.  I’ve gone with the Vesper 'black' box - BTW it’s blue not black! - on my NMEA 2000 network.  The blue box repeats the NMEA info on its Wi-fi.  So I get an AIS display on my iPad, as well as on a chart plotter.

regards Richard
Maybe Amel someday, currently HR 35 Rasmus.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

Heinz Stutenbaeumer
 

Thanks to all.

I had to go back to Germany for Christmas and new year.

So I cannot try all off your Ideas in the moment.  

 

Fair Winds  

Heinz SM 2000 Quetzal 292

 

Von: amelyachtowners@...
Gesendet: Freitag, 30. November 2018 23:57
An: amelyachtowners@...
Betreff: Fwd: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

 

 

Hi Heinz,

It is the same way as your engine mounted alternators have to be excited. Properly wired it happens when you turn the start key on. I guess it should work the same with the gen set. With your alternator if the exciting circuit is faulty the excitation can occur by reving your engine. This result tells you the alternator is OK and it is the excitation circuit where the fault lies. So perhaps your problem is in the excitation circuit

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

 

On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 09:17, 'Stutenbaeumer.Berlin' heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks fore the anther but how do I re-flash a generator?

Heinz

 


Am 29.11.2018 um 10:41 schrieb sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Heinz,

 

I believe your Onan has a "No AC Output" shutdown switch that would shut it down as you describe. 

With any luck, you may simply have to re-flash the generator to solve the problem. 



If that doesn't work you'll want to check the circuitry on the generator for winding continuity, resistance through the brushes, etc. (I assume you have fixed the short circuit, of course, and checked breakers.)

 

Let us know what you find.

Cheers, Craig SN68



---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Heinz,

 

I think you are dealing with a couple of issues.

 

Since you had an electrical short did you check the master circuit breaker on the generator?

 

Is the fuel supply sufficient? Are you getting enough fuel from the electric pump? Is the fuel clean? The most common cause of a diesel engine shutting down once it has started is lack of fuel. Believe it or not, it is very hard to stop a running diesel engine.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

 

 

Hello
I would have yesterday with Onan generator switched on a short circuit in an electric line.
Then the generator went out.
The generator starts since then briefly, then goes out however immediately again.
Only if I increase the speed of the generator manually after the start, it remains on, but does not generate electricity.
Somebody knows advice.
I am grateful for each suggestion
Heinz
Super Maramu 2000, 292 Panama


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

amelforme
 

Although I am not absolutely certain about the last two years of Maramu production,  Maramus previous had three breakers for the interior lights. Forward cabin lights had a breaker on the drop open panel with the mast light breakers. Saloon lights on the main 12 volt DC panel adjacent to the companionway and the aft cabin with a single breaker most commonly mounted on the vertical panel with the open storage compartments just behind the marine toilet. As you face this panel, it is usually in the upper left hand part of that area.

 

Let us know what you discover…  

 

          JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                   Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 7:19 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

 

 

I have never seen a CB for the aft cabin lights. They always operate with the main cabin lights CB on the 12v panel.  It's a Maramu, not a Super Maramu and may well be simpler. 

 

Kind regards

 

Graham

Jamesby

Maramu 46 #240

 

 

On Sat, 8 Dec 2018, 11:13 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:

 

Graham,

 

Dumb question but, have you determined the DC breaker for the aft lights is operational?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 6:19 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

 

 

Can anyone help me with an electrical problem in our 1988 Maramu 46 #240.

All the lights in the aft cabin have failed.  We checked all the bulbs,
of course! We have established that the problem is with the positive
cable as we have checked the negative (ground) cable and it has
continuity. 
We've established that, if we get power to any one of the light
fittings, all will then work. 

We can't work out how the positive cable gets from the circuit breaker
on the 12v panel and the first light in the aft cabin.  All the cables
are hidden. 

If anyone has had this problem before or has access to a cable routing
diagram, I'd be glad of your experience. 

Kind regards

Graham

Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

John Clark
 

Yes mine as well from the salon main panel however I discovered more breakers....  

If you haven't done any electrical work I find it odd that the positive leg is dead...zero volts right?

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 8:18 AM Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

I have never seen a CB for the aft cabin lights. They always operate with the main cabin lights CB on the 12v panel.  It's a Maramu, not a Super Maramu and may well be simpler. 

Kind regards

Graham
Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


On Sat, 8 Dec 2018, 11:13 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Graham,

 

Dumb question but, have you determined the DC breaker for the aft lights is operational?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 6:19 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

 

 

Can anyone help me with an electrical problem in our 1988 Maramu 46 #240.

All the lights in the aft cabin have failed.  We checked all the bulbs,
of course! We have established that the problem is with the positive
cable as we have checked the negative (ground) cable and it has
continuity. 
We've established that, if we get power to any one of the light
fittings, all will then work. 

We can't work out how the positive cable gets from the circuit breaker
on the 12v panel and the first light in the aft cabin.  All the cables
are hidden. 

If anyone has had this problem before or has access to a cable routing
diagram, I'd be glad of your experience. 

Kind regards

Graham

Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

Graham Cresswell <grahamjcresswell@...>
 

I have never seen a CB for the aft cabin lights. They always operate with the main cabin lights CB on the 12v panel.  It's a Maramu, not a Super Maramu and may well be simpler. 

Kind regards

Graham
Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


On Sat, 8 Dec 2018, 11:13 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Graham,

 

Dumb question but, have you determined the DC breaker for the aft lights is operational?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 6:19 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46

 

 

Can anyone help me with an electrical problem in our 1988 Maramu 46 #240.

All the lights in the aft cabin have failed.  We checked all the bulbs,
of course! We have established that the problem is with the positive
cable as we have checked the negative (ground) cable and it has
continuity. 
We've established that, if we get power to any one of the light
fittings, all will then work. 

We can't work out how the positive cable gets from the circuit breaker
on the 12v panel and the first light in the aft cabin.  All the cables
are hidden. 

If anyone has had this problem before or has access to a cable routing
diagram, I'd be glad of your experience. 

Kind regards

Graham

Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240