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Companionway downward sliding part dimensions

Willem Kroes
 

Hi Amelians,


I am not on my boat now and want to buy bendable teak 0.8 mm to renovate the companion way washboard because bits of the teak veneer are coming off. So I need dimensions of the washboard. Anyone on board of his SM will be so kind to e-mail me these dimensions?


Regards,


Willem Kroes


SM#351 KAVANGA




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Companionway ( washboard ) rubber seal replacement?

Willem Kroes
 

Hi Alan,

What was the part number of the seal you bought from Rockauto?

Best regards,

Willem Kroes

SM#351 KAVANGA


Jabsco Macerator pump

Paul Osterberg
 

Have anyone changed the lip seal in the Jabsco toilet pump? Our have developed a leak after 3.5 years of use. The cost to replace the pump is around 280 usd so we'll worth to repair. If you have repaired was it successful? What was the dimension of the lipseal? Did you find replacement for the rubber washer that keep the yellowish plastic flensh bolted to the electric motor?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 now in St Martin


Re: Missing furler release knob

Duane Siegfri
 

Paul,

If you don't find someone with a spare, and you need to fabricate one, let me know and I'll try to measure mine in place.

Duane


Re: Missing furler release knob

paul.cooper74@...
 

Duane,

The threaded vertical bolt is intact and I put a couple nuts on it as a hack so I can lift it with my fingers and turn it.  It appears to have a normal spring action when I do that, and if I slip a short piece of tubing under it after it is turned it serves its usual function, albeit not as conveniently or securely.

So I think all I need is the KNOB.

Paul


Re: Missing furler release knob

Duane Siegfri
 

Paul,

Are you missing the stainless part that you lifted and turned only?  This part (your "furler release knob" aka KNOB) is connected to a pin, the pin has male threads that thread into the KNOBS female threads.  There is a coil spring inside the top of the furler that pushes down on this pin, the pin in turn pulls down on the actuator.  If the spring is broken I suppose it's possible that the actuator unthreaded itself from the pin, although that sounds pretty far-fetched.

I've had to replace the pin because it would pop out of the interior plate below, with the result the sail would suddenly unfurl as if the KNOB had been lifted and turned.  Maybe that's what Bill R. is recalling.

I'm attaching instructions below from another forum member on how to disassemble the top of the furler to access the pin and spring.  I still have the drawing I did of the pin for the machine shop that made a new one for me, but they only made the pin, not the actuator.  If you need the pin as well, you should check carefully before following the drawing (if indeed you do need a pin) because I made this pin a touch longer than the old one.

I can take some measurements from the actuator on my boat if you like, but we are quite a few years apart.  Let me know if you want me to do that.

Best of luck,
Duane 
Wanderer, SM#477
==============================================================================

To investigate you need to just remove the top part of the furling mechanism.

Given our boats serial numbers are quite close, I would guess our furler is the same as yours. The earlier SM ones are different.

Undo the line that holds the tack of the genoa onto the furler.

There are two large bolts with dome nuts...the bolts are actually studs threaded into the casting. Undo and take off the large nuts.

Then there are four hex head bolts, two on each side which you need to take out.

The two halves of the top of the furler (one with the clutch pin) can now be taken off - it may need a little persuading with a soft hammer and jiggling the foil a bit.

Then you will see the pin from the inside and you will see the plate with the two slots in it.

The clutch pin should move freely but be quite hard to pull up against the spring...if it's easy and doesn't retract strongly, then the spring is broken. The clutch pin has two parts. The inner part has a screw slot and it unscrews from the outer part - between the two is a collet and the spring. You may need an impact wrench to unscrew this - I did.

Once you've done that it will be clear what needs repairing and whether you need to do more dismantling.

Good luck

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Where does the water go?

Porter McRoberts
 

Paul. Good question. It might end up there. However I do know an expected cause of water there. Check the drip pan from the midship Air conditioner. It drains to a ball valve that can get clogged. The ball valve controls water entry into the main drain coming from the forward compartment. That valve is in the linear, center floor sole compartment just starboard the upright freezer and chest freezer. 
It can become clogged with algae. And this definitely results in water in the sole compartment in front of the stove. 

Best of luck. 

Porter

A54-152 IBIS

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Dec 1, 2018, at 11:04 AM, sharongbrown@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

With the Amel 54, if fresh water leaks from one of the pipes in the forward head below the washing machine, i.e. one of the pipes that supplies the washing machine or the head, where does it end up? I lost maybe a litre there, and noticed some water in one of the sole compartments in the galley. However, if that is the same water then this breaches the forward watertight compartment.

Cheers,
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98



Missing furler release knob

paul.cooper74@...
 

Hello Amelians,


The furler release knob (my name for the thingey that you pull up on and rotate 1/4 turn to disengage the genoa furler motor) has mysteriously disappeared from my boat here in Le Marin (stolen??).


Anyway, Bill Rouse believes someone on the forum has fabricated some of these since they apparently are no longer available.  Does anyone out there have one to spare?


Thanks,


Paul

MARACUYA, SM238


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wanted: SM Ballonner

Paul Cooper <paul.cooper74@...>
 

Great.  You can PM me at plcbluebird at geemail.

Cheers,
Paul

On Wed Nov 28 2018 22:05:15 GMT+0000 (GMT), Paul LaFrance pflafrance@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Paul

I believe we still have our ballonner from SM #362. It is located in Rhode Island. Paul & Sue LaFrance




From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of paul.cooper74@... [amelyachtowners] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wanted: SM Ballonner
 
 

Hello,


Our recently purchased SM hull no. 238 has no ballooner.   Anyone not using theirs and want to sell it?  I'll take one even if it's tie-died.  


Thanks!


Paul

SM 238 MARACUYA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bonfiglioli Main Furler Schematic

Ian Townsend
 

Yes Steve. I could use that contact info. Thanks!

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, USA

On Dec 1, 2018, at 1:43 PM, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Ian,


The distributor for Bonfiglilio is in Fort Lauderdale. I purchased 2 of them about 6 months ago shipped to Hawaii for a little over $250/ea. Let me know if you need help finding that source, as I should be back on the boat tomorrow, and can look it up. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
Hawaii

On Dec 1, 2018, at 6:34 AM, Ian Townsend smlocalola@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thx Robin. Will definitely do that.

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, USA

On Dec 1, 2018, at 6:09 AM, robin6658@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

you can get the original Bonfiglioli gears for about 86 Euros from Sotek - sales@... - talk to Daria, she speaks english - you will have to ask for BONTVF44A100P63B1
4B3
RIDUTTORE VF 44 A-100 P63 B14 B3. version "P"!!!!!

fair winds
Robin

Amel 54 #54
Carré d’As
Mallorca/Spain


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bonfiglioli Main Furler Schematic

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Ian,

The distributor for Bonfiglilio is in Fort Lauderdale. I purchased 2 of them about 6 months ago shipped to Hawaii for a little over $250/ea. Let me know if you need help finding that source, as I should be back on the boat tomorrow, and can look it up. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
Hawaii

On Dec 1, 2018, at 6:34 AM, Ian Townsend smlocalola@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thx Robin. Will definitely do that.

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, USA

On Dec 1, 2018, at 6:09 AM, robin6658@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

you can get the original Bonfiglioli gears for about 86 Euros from Sotek - sales@... - talk to Daria, she speaks english - you will have to ask for BONTVF44A100P63B1
4B3
RIDUTTORE VF 44 A-100 P63 B14 B3. version "P"!!!!!

fair winds
Robin

Amel 54 #54
Carré d’As
Mallorca/Spain


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 SSB installation

 

Attached is a photo of the twisted yellow/green wires that need to be removed so that your SSB ground plate is no longer connected to Amel Bonding.

This is from your manual: "The AMEL 54 has got 2 ground plates on the rudder, used by the SSB system.
If the boat hasn’t got any SSB, these plates are connected to the zinc anodes.
When setting up a SSB, disconnect ground plates of the anodes (behind the chart table)."

I attached a photo from the Amel 54 Manual showing where to find the yellow/green twisted wires.

Regarding the connection to the SSB Ground Plates with a SSB Antenna Tuner, here ia a quote that might help: "The SSB ground plate is connected from inside the rudder skeg by a copper strp to a bolt in the lazarette, stbd side. Connected to this bolt is a thick green yellow cable that runs through the outermost conduit on the starboard side of the boat and exits at the nav station where it is terminated behind the chart table and labelled BLU with blue pen - on the cable sheath."

I suggest a whip antenna for safety reasons.

I hope this helps you.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 6:45 PM j.jeltes@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all ,  fellow Amel owners. Since recently i am proud owner of Fidelis an Amel54 2009.

I am preparing her for paticipating ARC+2019. and decided to install a SBB radio.

The boat is prepared and has a pre-installed groundplate, yet there is no wiring diagramm information of available cabling.  Sadly SAV of chantier Amels has verly little information , apart from i need to disconnect the ground  cable from the SSB power contacts behind the lower charttable sidepanel.

Surely more owners must have gone through this trouble,  so anybody can give me advice is very welcome.

i am struggling with the following questions ?

where can i pick up the ground cable from the groundplate, to ground the antenne tuner? and should this of the flat rass type ?

is the isolated antenne cable between the masts suitable for the SSB ?

what anttenne is used for SSB,  isolated backstay of mizzen mast , or stand alone 6m flex rod type?

perhaps there is anybody who can give directions how to install the system.

( i have contacted local professionals yet these guys do not know this boat and want to start from scratch)

Jeroen  Jeltes
 Amsterdam.




Re: Amel54 SSB installation

danielmfrey63@...
 

Dean

I am quoting Joel Potter. Please see message 14260.

Joel F Potter
Message 3 of 10 , Sep 2, 2013
View Source
The Amel philosophy regarding using a whip instead of a insulted backstay is
many fold. First, whips are more efficient in almost every possible
measure. Second, if the rig comes tumbling down (unlikely on a Super Maramu
unless the standing rigging is over 12 years old or you do something
incredibly stupid, I mean silly) you can still scream for help with the ssb
as you'll still have an antenna. Third, gentlemen are unlikely to grasp the
whip as they would the backstay when answering the call of nature at the
stern. The internal flesh burn that happens if you are holding the antenna
during a transmission is a horrible wound that can quickly turn gangrenous
when at sea and professional medical treatment is not readily available The
primary disadvantage is the coating on the fiberglass deteriorates after
about 10-15 years in the 35north/35south belt we mostly all voyage in and
causes decreased performance as moisture is absorbed. You also can catch a
really nasty itch if you grab this then deteriorated antenna from the
fiberglass shards that will transfer into your palm. Ask me how I know this.




All the best,

Joel


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bonfiglioli Main Furler Schematic

Ian Townsend
 

Thx Robin. Will definitely do that.

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, USA

On Dec 1, 2018, at 6:09 AM, robin6658@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

you can get the original Bonfiglioli gears for about 86 Euros from Sotek - sales@... - talk to Daria, she speaks english - you will have to ask for BONTVF44A100P63B1
4B3
RIDUTTORE VF 44 A-100 P63 B14 B3. version "P"!!!!!

fair winds
Robin

Amel 54 #54
Carré d’As
Mallorca/Spain


Where does the water go?

ya_fohi
 

Hi all,

With the Amel 54, if fresh water leaks from one of the pipes in the forward head below the washing machine, i.e. one of the pipes that supplies the washing machine or the head, where does it end up? I lost maybe a litre there, and noticed some water in one of the sole compartments in the galley. However, if that is the same water then this breaches the forward watertight compartment.

Cheers,
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98



Re: Amel54 SSB installation

Dean Gillies
 

Hi Jeroen,
I am planning to install a SSB system on my Amel 54, using the M801E. I have not yet commenced installation, and I am now away from the boat until April. Sorry I’m unable to offer any guidance.
I’m sure others on this forum can help with good practical advice. I wish you luck. Your questions will be very similar to the ones I will be asking myself!
Best regards
Dean Gillies
SY Stella
Amel 54#154


Re: Amel54 SSB installation

Dean Gillies
 

Hi Daniel,
I am also planning an SSB installation on an Amel 54.
I too have the M801E.

I’m particularly interested in your comment about Amel’s views of Whip Antenna vs Backstay Antenna. Is this information published somewhere accessible.
Best regards
Dean Gillies
SY Stella
Amel 54#154


Re: Bonfiglioli Main Furler Schematic

robin hutter
 

you can get the original Bonfiglioli gears for about 86 Euros from Sotek - sales@... - talk to Daria, she speaks english - you will have to ask for BONTVF44A100P63B1
4B3
RIDUTTORE VF 44 A-100 P63 B14 B3. version "P"!!!!!

fair winds
Robin

Amel 54 #54
Carré d’As
Mallorca/Spain


Re: Bonfiglioli Main Furler Schematic

Ian Park
 

Ian
I presume you have dropped the motor/gearbox unit and checked that the furler operates with the winch handle?
If you have also checked that the motor runs when disconnected from the gearbox, then the gearbox is the problem. If the motor does turn the gearbox then the gears have stripped. If it just jams, then the gearbox is seized. If either of these, get two new gearboxes, because the outhaul one will be in a similar condition.
I bought 2 Bonfiglios last year and replaced them both. They are a simple right angle gear drive.
Do have a look in the Amel Owners archives. There are photos of disassembly of both types of gearbox Amel used, but I believe they are not interchangeable. Alex (Nikimat) did a direct comparison of both Bonfiglio and Leroy Summers gearboxes to show the differences.
The furler gearbox is simple to change, although I did need a hydraulic press to get the drive shaft out of it. The outhaul gearbox removal was a bigger problem, and Amel Martinique removed the boom to take it to their workshop for removal.
The Bonfiglio gearbox comes filled with grease (sealed for life). Amel separated the one they fitted for me, cleaned it out and refilled it with hypoid 90 gearbox oil. There are discussion topics on grease v oil and the installation of grease nipples to renew whichever lubricant you decide on as a routine service item.

In UK I paid less than £200 for each gearbox. It seems they are readily obtainable. My suggestion would be to order two, even if you can free up the existing ones. And do follow the advice of other Amelians who have experienced the replacement process - take the Anderson line tender off the outhaul gearbox every year and regrease the shaft and woodruff key - otherwise even a sledgehammer won’t move it! (I watched Amel try!).

Good luck

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 SSB installation

 

Here are some answers to get you started. I will give you more complete answers tomorrow as I am traveling today. I'll also send you directly a few photos tomorrow. 

need to disconnect the ground  cable from the SSB power contacts behind the lower charttable sidepanel. Yes. It is labeled BLU. You need to disconnect the yellow/green twisted 2 wires from the block. Without an SSB (BLU) these wires connect the ground plates to Amel Bonding.



where can i pick up the ground cable from the groundplate, to ground the antenne tuner? and should this of the flat rass type ? There is a copper foil from the ground plate ending inside the starboard side of the aft lazerette.

is the isolated antenne cable between the masts suitable for the SSB ? No. It is not. Wrong length and the antenna needs to be very close to the antenna tuner.

what anttenne is used for SSB,  isolated backstay of mizzen mast , or stand alone 6m flex rod type? All or any will work.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Fri, Nov 30, 2018, 19:45 j.jeltes@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Hi all ,  fellow Amel owners. Since recently i am proud owner of Fidelis an Amel54 2009.

I am preparing her for paticipating ARC+2019. and decided to install a SBB radio.

The boat is prepared and has a pre-installed groundplate, yet there is no wiring diagramm information of available cabling.  Sadly SAV of chantier Amels has verly little information , apart from i need to disconnect the ground  cable from the SSB power contacts behind the lower charttable sidepanel.

Surely more owners must have gone through this trouble,  so anybody can give me advice is very welcome.

i am struggling with the following questions ?

where can i pick up the ground cable from the groundplate, to ground the antenne tuner? and should this of the flat rass type ?

is the isolated antenne cable between the masts suitable for the SSB ?

what anttenne is used for SSB,  isolated backstay of mizzen mast , or stand alone 6m flex rod type?

perhaps there is anybody who can give directions how to install the system.

( i have contacted local professionals yet these guys do not know this boat and want to start from scratch)

Jeroen  Jeltes
 Amsterdam.