Date   

Amel book...

Grant Starling
 

Bill,

I would like to get my hands on a copy of your Amel book. Although I own a Santorin, rather than a SM, I know the systems are very similar.

Can I please purchase a copy?

Thanks

Grant
‘Allonzee’ SN#42


Re: Another secret question...

Grant Starling
 

Keen to know too please:

grantstarling@...

Grant
’Allonzee’ SN#42


Re: Jordan series drogue.

Brent Cameron
 

I looked to see if I took any pictures of those chocks as I remember looking at them (and wondering what they were) while onboard Kimberlite at the dock in Bermuda but I think that I was more interested in talking with Eric and his crew about the modifications he did for the JSD and their trip in from New York than taking pictures as I don’t see any in my photos bucket from that trip.    

Brent

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Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


Re: sailing from Martinique to Newport

Bob Chapman
 

Can US citizens enter Martinique? Actually, my wife is French and American, and we’re able to go to France as long as we travel together. 

While I have an ASA 104 certificate, we both have limited sailing experience. And we would only go as a couple, so you would need to have accommodations for both. I have the week’s experience with getting my training, and we sailed in a challenging storm from southern Spain to Gibraltar. 

Could be interesting if our characteristics fit your needs. 

Bob Chapman 

On Apr 2, 2021, at 9:42 PM, Miles <milesbid@...> wrote:

Hello Amelians and future Amel owners. 
On 20 May, I am planning to sail from Martinique to Newport, RI.  I would like to take one more crew person.  Please contact me if you are interested.
Regards,
Miles Bidwell
s/y Ladybug, SM 216 
My email is milesbid at gmail dot com 


sailing from Martinique to Newport

Miles
 

Hello Amelians and future Amel owners. 
On 20 May, I am planning to sail from Martinique to Newport, RI.  I would like to take one more crew person.  Please contact me if you are interested.
Regards,
Miles Bidwell
s/y Ladybug, SM 216 
My email is milesbid at gmail dot com 


Re: Jordan series drogue.

eric freedman
 

Sorry,

I am not on bard. I will be on board later next week. I will try to remember to take a few photos.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 8:27 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Jordan series drogue.

 

Eric, might you or anyone have a picture of the block over the chock?  I’m having a hard time imagining this!  

 

Much appreciated 

Porter

Porter McRoberts 

S/V IBIS A54-152

WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206



On Apr 1, 2021, at 1:25 PM, Brent Cameron via groups.io <brentcameron61@...> wrote:



AH….  Sorry, for some reason the groups.io locked me out saying my message bounced and I had to “unbounce it”..  I assumed that nobody got my first message and I didn’t get to see any subsequent replies until I unbounced it and so I sent my second copy in.  Now, that I see your reply to my second reply, I went on to the web and can see the messages that I wasn’t able to see while they locked my account (suspect it was because I recently changed my email from gmail to iCloud).  Anyway, it’s all good now.

Thanks for responding.  I remember seeing the wooden blocks on Kimberlite when we saw you in Bermuda in late 2019 and have read your account of the big storms many times but wasn’t sure how you brought it back in.  I hope that I never have to use one in anger but great to know how if I do!  Thanks again.  

 

 Brent

On Apr 1, 2021, 7:13 PM -0400, eric freedman <kimberlite@...>, wrote:

Hi Brent ,

Did you see the note I posted at 6:30 pm today?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Brent Cameron via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Jordan series drogue.

 

Great article Eric.  I know you’ve used yours in anger a few times.  I’m curious, what was the best way you’ve found to retrieve your JSD?

 

Brent


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Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


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Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


If you joined our group to learn more about Amels and find your own Amel #IMPORTANT

 

All that have joined our group to learn more about Amels and find your own Amel,

Saturday 10 April 2021 our group will have a ZOOM presentation designed just for you. One of our members and 3 times Amel ower of SMs and an A-54 will make a presentation titled "How to work with a broker to Buy or Sell your Amel."

Joel Potter is known to many of us as the Amel broker in the Americas. Joel has owned 2 Super Maramus, 1 Amel 54 and has sold more Amels than anyone I know in Europe or anywhere else. Although I have not seen Joel's presentation, he has promised to share a few inside TIPS on how to work with a broker if you are a Buyer and/or Seller. If you own an Amel, sadly someday you will be selling her. This meeting is certainly worth your time.

Please sign up for this meeting: https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/viewevent?eventid=1101906

Do not worry if you have no experience with ZOOM. If you follow the zoom link below your phone, tablet, laptop, or PC will automatically load ZOOM. Also, clicking on the link below will place you in the ZOOM meeting automatically. It is very easy. 

Date and Time:

Amel Yacht Owners' Group April Gathering: Time: Apr 10, 2021 20:00 GMT

The zoom link is: 

To Join the Zoom Meeting, click on this link. Even if you do not have ZOOM loaded on your device, this link will guide you through the process.

https://epfl.zoom.us/j/83328154757?pwd=NFRVOXNuRTI0ZTY4d09HOEZHVjFoZz09

 

You do not need the following if you use the link above
Meeting ID: 833 2815 4757 
Passcode: 550827

 

You can also view the meeting with YouTube either during the meeting or afterward.
YouTube link is:
 https://youtu.be/AiFLSZQGaIM

 Please RSVP Here: https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/viewevent?eventid=1101906
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Best,
 
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Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: group purchase of 10 or more Ultramarine anchors. (35 and 45kg)

Davi Rozgonyi
 

I found it... That price is not a super big discount, plus I don't have an eu billing address, so I'm out. 


Re: group purchase of 10 or more Ultramarine anchors. (35 and 45kg)

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Hello,

The price is clearly detailed (shipping, vat, and swivel) on the link : http: // www.cottonbay.fr/U_a

  • For more details contact direcly Kris @ UltraMarine : Kris Teaotea <kris@...>

Jean Luc Mertz

CottonBay SM 316


Le 01/04/2021 à 13:58, Davi Rozgonyi a écrit :

I might be interested, shipped to Greece. Price for 35 and 45kg please? 


Re: group purchase of 10 or more Ultramarine anchors. (35 and 45kg)

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Merci,

Thank you for your feedback ....

Jean Luc Mertz

CottonBay SM 3156



Le 01/04/2021 à 13:18, Vladan Bojic a écrit :

[Edited Message Follows]

I fitted yesterday Ultra 45 kg + Ultra swivel + 100 m @ 10 mm chain. It fits perfectly on bow roller and you can keep Wasi 30 kg on port side roller.
--
Vladan

A54 #157 PAME


Re: group purchase of 10 or more Ultramarine anchors. (35 and 45kg)

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Hello,

YES it is very fine ..

Jean Luc Mertz

CottonBay SM 316


Le 01/04/2021 à 12:47, Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer a écrit :
Kalimera! Dimitris,

you stated, the 45 kg anchor fits with the 54 bow roller arrangement. Did you fitted it together with the UM swivel and on a10 mm chain. all together matched fine?

THX for your experienced response, very appreciated.

Best

Ulrich
S/y SoleilBleu A54#088
<>
Am 01.04.2021 um 12:43 schrieb Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...>:

What is the price of the 45kg. I just bought it. I tested it 5 days ago. It fits excellent on the 54 anchor arrangement. If you can refer also my name I will appreciate 

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 

On 1 Apr 2021, at 13:06, jlm@... wrote:

 Hello AMEL owners ..... Since I have CottonBay (Super Maramu 2000 hull number 316) I find that the boat at anchor skids too easily.....
On this forum I am not the only one to think that the original anchor (articulated) is not terrible. I will therefore replace it with an Ultra Marine anchor of 35 or 45kg which on this forum gives great satisfaction.
The company Ultra Marine offers me a particularly attractive price for a group purchase of 10 anchors.

If you are interested in this anchor, I suggest you join this group purchase on http: // www.cottonbay.fr/U_a.php

I specify that the commercial relationship will be between you and Ultramarine, I am only offering this possibility of group purchase here.
 

Jean Luc Mertz

CottonBay SM 3156


Re: group purchase of 10 or more Ultramarine anchors. (35 and 45kg)

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Hello,

The price is clearly detailed (transopt, vat, and swivel) on the link : http: // www.cottonbay.fr/U_a

Jean Luc Mertz

CottonBay SM 316




Le 01/04/2021 à 12:43, Dimitris Krasopoulos a écrit :
What is the price of the 45kg. I just bought it. I tested it 5 days ago. It fits excellent on the 54 anchor arrangement. If you can refer also my name I will appreciate 

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 

On 1 Apr 2021, at 13:06, jlm@... wrote:

 Hello AMEL owners ..... Since I have CottonBay (Super Maramu 2000 hull number 316) I find that the boat at anchor skids too easily.....
On this forum I am not the only one to think that the original anchor (articulated) is not terrible. I will therefore replace it with an Ultra Marine anchor of 35 or 45kg which on this forum gives great satisfaction.
The company Ultra Marine offers me a particularly attractive price for a group purchase of 10 anchors.

If you are interested in this anchor, I suggest you join this group purchase on http: // www.cottonbay.fr/U_a.php

I specify that the commercial relationship will be between you and Ultramarine, I am only offering this possibility of group purchase here.

 

Jean Luc Mertz

CottonBay SM 3156


Re: Jordan series drogue.

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Eric, like Porter, I would like to see how you bolted the wooden blocks over the chocks. I assume you only do this prior to retrieving the Jordan drogue, and not prior to deployment?  The other picture I would like to see is how Amel super reinforced the stern cleats on Kimberlite.

I bought a Jordan drogue for BRAVA from Ace Sailmakers prior to my 2019 transAtlantic trip, and Dave P. convinced me to use dynema lines and the heavier cone material.  I am pleased with the quality job done by Ace Sailmakers. 

Thanks for all the great advice on deployment and retrieval. 

Derick

Derick Gates
S/V BRAVA SM2K #400


Re: Speedi-Sleeve for Bowthruster shaft

Bill Kinney
 

Paul,

A speedi-Sleeve can be a difficult fit on the bow thruster shaft, mainly because the sizes can be tough to match.  You need to put an accurate set of calipers on the shaft, and carefully measure the diameter to the nearest 0.02mm.  The diameter of these as manufactured is 30.00mm, but they wear quickly. Speedi-sleeves are only available in discrete sizes, and the shaft diameter NEEDS to match EXACTLY the available sizes of sleeve from SKF.  

With a new shaft, there are speedi-sleeves available that will work for the 30mm diameter.  Unfortunately there are gaps in the sizing.  Right now I am woring on a boat with a shaft size that has worn down to 29.50 mm.  There is no sleeve to fit this.  To make matters worse, this is a bit small for a 30mm seal and a bit big for a 29 mm seal.  

My recommendation in this case was to install a 29mm seal now, and buy a new shaft from Amel.  When the new shaft arrives, install a 30mm sleeve on it, use 30mm inside diameter seals, and it will never wear again.

It's totally a great idea that the bow thruster has no metal parts in contact with salt water--but the wear on the GRP shaft is fast, and significant.  Adding a sleeve is a good idea, but it needs to match carefully with the existing diameter of the shaft.

A caveat to all above:  "Speedi-sleeve" is a trademark name for the product from SKF, the big bearing and seal manufactuer.  There might be others making a similar product in more metric friendly sizes that I am not aware of. If you know of such, please let me know!


Re: Jordan series drogue.

Porter McRoberts
 

Eric, might you or anyone have a picture of the block over the chock?  I’m having a hard time imagining this!  

Much appreciated 
Porter

Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206
Www.fouribis.net

On Apr 1, 2021, at 1:25 PM, Brent Cameron via groups.io <brentcameron61@...> wrote:


AH….  Sorry, for some reason the groups.io locked me out saying my message bounced and I had to “unbounce it”..  I assumed that nobody got my first message and I didn’t get to see any subsequent replies until I unbounced it and so I sent my second copy in.  Now, that I see your reply to my second reply, I went on to the web and can see the messages that I wasn’t able to see while they locked my account (suspect it was because I recently changed my email from gmail to iCloud).  Anyway, it’s all good now.

Thanks for responding.  I remember seeing the wooden blocks on Kimberlite when we saw you in Bermuda in late 2019 and have read your account of the big storms many times but wasn’t sure how you brought it back in.  I hope that I never have to use one in anger but great to know how if I do!  Thanks again.  

 Brent
On Apr 1, 2021, 7:13 PM -0400, eric freedman <kimberlite@...>, wrote:

Hi Brent ,

Did you see the note I posted at 6:30 pm today?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Brent Cameron via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Jordan series drogue.

 

Great article Eric.  I know you’ve used yours in anger a few times.  I’m curious, what was the best way you’ve found to retrieve your JSD?

 

Brent


--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


Re: Rudder Stuffing Box Packing Material

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Packing removal tool:  a dental pick also works fine. 

I’ve changed one in harbour; very easy and compression can be achieved with  1 cm wide piece of hardwood and a rubber/plastic hammer. 

Use a new compression nut and keep the old one as a spare. 

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007 


On 2 Apr 2021, at 10:44, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Pat,

Here you are:
A snippet from a page in my book and a link to the Amel Book Supplement file (Rudder Post Packing) mentioned in the book:
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:04 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
This is the proverbial question whether to fix something that is not broke. I have owned my boat for at least 15 years and have never replaced the packing , never even tightened down the nut , I also have never had a leak. I just had Maud send me new packing ,I have the quadrant and nut off . Now I am having a second thought about messing with it as it has never leaked a drop. Sure enough ,with my luck if I repack it, I will probably have a leak . Do you cut the ends on a 45 degree angle so to overlap or just cut the ends square.
Thanks,
Pat
SM#123
PS. Is this secret place just on 54s or SMs as well, or is this just an urban myth ,designed to drive people nuts as they tear out their interiors ?


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 1, 2021 2:33 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rudder Stuffing Box Packing Material

Stephan,

My thoughts:

Generally, when the packing begins to leak it is because the nut needs to further compress the packing, and/or the packing has been compressed several times by tightening the nut and requires replacing because there is no compression flexibility left in the packing material.

And generally, water will leak through this packing when the boat is moving bow to stern while sailing. The more the stern moves up and down when sailing, the higher the water pressure is on the packing.

The top of the rudder post gland is normally above the waterline, but I have seen at least one SM so overloaded at the stern that it was likely close to the waterline.

Leaving her in a marina for 6 months with packing that needs replacing is probably a low-risk issue, mitigated to almost no-risk with someone checking on her.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 12:54 PM Stephan Regulinski via groups.io <stephreg=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Paul, et al.,

Great thread! And very timely: I just found 8 ozs of water in area next to rudder post.  We are just about to depart Panama for the US. What to do?

1. Leave repair until I return in six (ish) months, which gives me time to get a Palmetto tool, sched 80 plastic pipe, packing material, etc.; or,

2. Stop press, change flight dates and do repair now using locally sourced materials and tools.

S/V Hanalei is vintage 1999, so the stuffing material will be old. When we depart, she will be in a marina under watchful eye of experienced mechanic, and boat caretaker.

Has anyone had success with tightening the packing nut on old packing material?

Thanks in advance for thoughts.

Stephan G. Regulinski 
S/V Hanalei SM #266


Re: Jordan series drogue.

Brent Cameron
 

AH….  Sorry, for some reason the groups.io locked me out saying my message bounced and I had to “unbounce it”..  I assumed that nobody got my first message and I didn’t get to see any subsequent replies until I unbounced it and so I sent my second copy in.  Now, that I see your reply to my second reply, I went on to the web and can see the messages that I wasn’t able to see while they locked my account (suspect it was because I recently changed my email from gmail to iCloud).  Anyway, it’s all good now.

Thanks for responding.  I remember seeing the wooden blocks on Kimberlite when we saw you in Bermuda in late 2019 and have read your account of the big storms many times but wasn’t sure how you brought it back in.  I hope that I never have to use one in anger but great to know how if I do!  Thanks again.  

 Brent

On Apr 1, 2021, 7:13 PM -0400, eric freedman <kimberlite@...>, wrote:

Hi Brent ,

Did you see the note I posted at 6:30 pm today?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Brent Cameron via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Jordan series drogue.

 

Great article Eric.  I know you’ve used yours in anger a few times.  I’m curious, what was the best way you’ve found to retrieve your JSD?

 

Brent


--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


Re: Jordan series drogue.

eric freedman
 

Error in my original  !!!

 

I MEANT TO WRITE THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE A WOOD BLOCK THAT BOLTS OVER THE STERN CHOCK NOT THE CLEAT.

I also forgot to mention that you need put chafe protection where the drogue rubs against the backstays and at the chocks.

I use a leather product made by Edson that is used to protect turnbuckles and lines.

I secure them with several zip ties.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

https://edsonmarine.com/leather-turnbuckle-covers-large/

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 6:40 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Jordan series drogue.

 

Hi Brent,

Retrieving it really depends on the motion of the boat.

I had my bridles made with a large eye spliced into the end of each one. When I had Kimberlite built, I had Amel super reinforce the stern cleats. First tie a line on one if the bridles and when it becomes loose bring the line and bridle around the backstays and on to the other side of   the boat.

 

Then tie a big strong line to the eye that is still connected.

A few times the boat was rolling beam to beam. I just put a few turns of the added line around my primary winch and then when the boat rolled, I just pulled the line in and waited for Kimberlite to roll to the other side. On each roll I pulled in about 8 feet of line.

 

I forgot to mention that you have to make a rounded block of wood that will bolt through the stern cleat. Just anything that will prevent the drogue from getting stuck on the stern cleat and rip the parachutes.

It doesn’t have to be fancy.

 

Most of the time Kimberlite does not roll.

Again, bring one of the bridles over to the other side.

 

Now you will need 2 or 3 people for the next step.

If you have a third person, they will guide the drogue on board-nice touch but not imperative.

 

You will need 2 people on the primary winch. One to tail it by hand as the drogue lines are too thick for the

self-tailer . Secondly you must be careful not to rip the parachutes on the taling horn.

 

One person must press the winch switch while the other tails the line.

The winch is strong enough to bring in the drogue in 50 knots of wind.

 

However, if you try to continuously use the winch, it will overheat and shut off. You will then have to let the motor cool off for a few minutes before it resets and works.  My suggestion is to tail for a minute or so and then let it cool off for a minute or so.

That works best for me.

 

I have sailed single handed in 50 knots of wind from near Bermuda to New York.

However, that was silly of me. I should have put out the drogue.

That is where I now draw the line if I am expecting an extended blow.

 

Below is an article about us in a hurricane 36 hours – 60 foot seas wind 100 knots.

 

https://www.oceannavigator.com/prepare-for-survival-conditions/

 

Dave Pelissier of Ace sailmakers in Connecticut worked with Mr. Jordan and together they developed the drogue.
I would only get one from him if it is possible.

 

25 years ago, we were in near hurricane force winds . We were told by Herb Hilgenberg not to travel further North as the winds were horrific further North.

I was in my Tartan 37 at that time.

We were on the drogue overnight. The wind died down to 40 knots and my Tartan was literally rolling beam to beam on the drogue. I called Dave at Ace sailmakers and asked why this was happening, he didn’t know but he said call Mr. Jordan,  He gave me the number and I called him. I could hear by his voice he was quite old. After listening to me he said,  “ I know what the problem is – NOT ENOUGH WIND !!”

We brought in the drogue and sailed up to Bermuda.

 

Not Enough Wind- one of my favorite stories.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Brent Cameron via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 5:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Jordan series drogue.

 

Great article Eric.  I know you’ve used yours in anger a few times.  I’m curious, what was the best way you’ve found to retrieve your JSD?

 

Brent Cameron, Future Amel owner & Amel Owner's Registry Moderator

On Apr 1, 2021, 4:51 PM -0400, eric freedman <kimberlite@...>, wrote:

Some of you might know of my experiences with the Jordan Series Drogue.

It is a lifesaver and I thought you would find the article interesting.

I do not leave without it.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

https://liveicomgrshot.blob.core.windows.net/occfiles/Uploadedpdfs/20210328_JORDON%20SERIES%20DROGUE%20Best%20Practices%202.0.pdf

 


--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


Re: Jordan series drogue.

eric freedman
 

Hi Brent ,

Did you see the note I posted at 6:30 pm today?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Brent Cameron via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Jordan series drogue.

 

Great article Eric.  I know you’ve used yours in anger a few times.  I’m curious, what was the best way you’ve found to retrieve your JSD?

 

Brent


--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


Re: Jordan series drogue.

Brent Cameron
 

Great article Eric.  I know you’ve used yours in anger a few times.  I’m curious, what was the best way you’ve found to retrieve your JSD?

Brent

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Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada

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