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Re: Question about the refrigiration system on an A54

sharona246@...
 

Hi everybody

I bought the osculati pump, 12v version. it is working perfectly and is actually the same pump like Frojet


Lior
SHARONA, A54 #018


Re: Amel Rendezvous PARTY AND DRONE PICS

n33077@...
 

I'd love some of Fiasco.

Aras


Removing drawer faces

Craig Briggs
 

Has anyone removed the false drawer faces on the port side of the main salon? 


I was hoping to trade out one of those unused handles for another that has broken, but I can't figure out how to access it. So before I undertake cutting a hole, I though I'd ask the group.


(This may apply only to the Santorin, where we have 4 drawer faces but only two drawers, the other two being false - I don't know about the SM's) 


Many thanks,

Craig, SN#68 Sangaris, Brunswick, GA


Re: Faulty Residual Current operated Circuit-Breaker,

haggismuncheruk@...
 

Hi, Glad you got it sorted.

Perhaps something like one of these would be a useful addition to the Shorepower supply for preventing issues.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Faulty Residual Current operated Circuit-Breaker,

Alan Leslie
 

Good to hear the issue is resolved

Apologies to all for the multiple posts, but they never turned up from my side...until now !

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Baie Maa, New Caledonia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Faulty Residual Current operated Circuit-Breaker,

Hajo Hille
 

Alan,

Problem solved.
You are right, it's the shore power side.

In Greece every Marina has a different polarity !
We changed it and everything works.

Thank you very much for your support.


Best regards

Hajo
SM 150
Mitilini Lesbos


Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 17.09.2018 um 23:53 schrieb sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

I agree with Alan - if those ohm readings were across the un-plugged shore power cord it is definitely bad. You should get infinite, open-circuit readings (assuming you unplugged the cord first).

Good luck with it..


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hello 
Seems to me that since you can run all your appliances without tripping the breaker when the generator is running , everything with your appliances is OK.
The problem must be on the shore power side.
It could be that your shore power cable has a fault with leaking to ground, maybe it has been contaminated with salt water.
Your meter measurements indicate that could be the problem.
The measurement between blue and ground and brown and ground should be very high and more or less the same.
You say you have already replaced the plug and the shore power relay, I would suggest replacing the shore power cable itself.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Noumea


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo air filters / diesel filters

hanspeter baettig
 

Hoi Alex
pretty much expensive. but if we are a owner of AMEL a  SM or 54,55,50,64 we have to spend a lot of money. Ok , I bought all a lot of spare items, maybe for 2 years in Europe. Ok I know you bought the boat in US. So keep speending money because if you will import the spare items from beautiful Euroup you pay a lot of transport/duty cost. 
Maybe you have friends/familie coming to your boat and bring from Amel a lot of spare items. I do it . 
Actually in Cap Verde Crossing soon to Brasil

Grüsse Hanspeter
SM 16/ Tamango 2


----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----
Von : amelyachtowners@...
Datum : 16/09/2018 - 22:36 (MS)
An : amelyachtowners@...
Betreff : [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo air filters / diesel filters

 

The local Volvo dealer in Curacao is charging USD 94.00 for an air filter and USD 46.00 for a diesel filter for my DS3-111. Where do you guys stock parts like this and what are the prices that you see in the market in the U.S. or Europe?
fair winds,
Alex
SY NO STRESS
A54-15





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rigging

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi all. It is a boldman who advises against rig work because the winds are lighter in the Pacific and s bold recipient of the advice who takes it. I am a lifetime Pacific sailor and it can be WILD.

I have spent time in the Atlantic too and in my experience it is a pussy cat by comparison but I guess I have not experienced it at its worst.

Actually it is a bold man who advises against rig work anywhere. It is a very personal decision as the guy on the boat pays the price either way.

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl


On 17 September 2018 at 15:03 "Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air jgermain@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Heinz,


I was 5 months in Panama and never heard of a rigger in the country.

However, the winds are lighter in the Pacific and if your rig was checked by a good rigger in the recent past, you’ll be ok.

If you need a GREAT one in Tahiti, look for Benoit Parnaudeau.  He used to rig Isabelle Autissier’s boat plus he skippered a Volvo 60 in the RTW solo event a few years back.

Good luck,

Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera SM 007
Vava’u, TONGA


On 17 Sep 2018, at 04:48, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Heinz

I believe there is only one rigger on the pacific side. A friend on a 55 would not give him a great review. John.  john@...  would be good to contact.. 

I hope you guys are well!!

Porter 
Ibis A54-152

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Sep 16, 2018, at 9:11 AM,   heinz@...  [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hallo all


 

I hope everyone survived the hurricane well.

my Quetzal is currently in Shelter Bay Marina in Panama on the dry one. 

Does anyone know a good Rigger in panama? 

I would like to have my rig checked before I go on to the Pacific. 

I would be grateful for an answer.

 

Fair Winds

Heinz Stutenbäumer


SV Quetzal, SM 2000 - 292


 

 


 


 


In gear when sailing.

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

We have the hurth gearbox with manual shift and no shaft brake. (0.8 litre atf). Also auto prop. To swivel the auto prop to low drag position it needs to be In gear. Which? Forward or reverse? Easy. When sailing and the shsft is spinning merrily in neutral put it into gear. The correct way will result in a satisfying Clunk and the shaft will stop. The wrong way, no clunk and the shaft will continue turning, albeit more slowly. This slow turning is because the clutches are lightly engaged and obviously this will result in unessesary wear.

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean pearl.


Re: Faulty Residual Current operated Circuit-Breaker,

Craig Briggs
 

I agree with Alan - if those ohm readings were across the un-plugged shore power cord it is definitely bad. You should get infinite, open-circuit readings (assuming you unplugged the cord first).
Good luck with it..


---In amelyachtowners@..., <divanz620@...> wrote :

Hello 
Seems to me that since you can run all your appliances without tripping the breaker when the generator is running , everything with your appliances is OK.
The problem must be on the shore power side.
It could be that your shore power cable has a fault with leaking to ground, maybe it has been contaminated with salt water.
Your meter measurements indicate that could be the problem.
The measurement between blue and ground and brown and ground should be very high and more or less the same.
You say you have already replaced the plug and the shore power relay, I would suggest replacing the shore power cable itself.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Noumea


Re: Faulty Residual Current operated Circuit-Breaker,

Alan Leslie
 

Hello 
Seems to me that since you can run all your appliances without tripping the breaker when the generator is running , everything with your appliances is OK.
The problem must be on the shore power side.
It could be that your shore power cable has a fault with leaking to ground, maybe it has been contaminated with salt water.
Your meter measurements indicate that could be the problem.
The measurement between blue and ground and brown and ground should be very high and more or less the same.
You say you have already replaced the plug and the shore power relay, I would suggest replacing the shore power cable itself.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Noumea


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo air filters / diesel filters

Mark Erdos
 

Alex,

 

Often times NAPA will have the equivalent parts. The have a great website to search for parts.

 

We have ordered from Defender.com or Fisheriessupply.com. Both are in the USA and will ship internationally. Sometimes we will find a part in the USA much cheaper and use eZone to ship it to us in the retailer doesn’t ship internationally. We recently had to replace a battery charger. The unit we needed at Budget Marine (an oxymoron) was about $1000 higher than the USA lowest price at hodgesmarine.com. Even with the 8% import fee and international shipping, it was $700 cheaper than Budget Marine here in Bonaire. It took about 6 days to get from Florida to Bonaire and saved us a ton on money.

 

I guess what I am trying to say check prices globally. If you happened to be on an EU islands (such as Martinique etc.), then purchasing and shipping from the EU is much easier than the USA. If you find yourself in the US Virgins or PR, the US Post Office will ship next day at the same rates as state-state in the US.

 

I understand there is a decent chandlery in Santa Marta Colombia, since you are heading that way perhaps you can delay the purchases.

 

Hope this helps.

 

----- Bill R ---- Perhaps shipping parts to Amel owners could be an add on to the Amel School J

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 4:37 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvo air filters / diesel filters

 

 

The local Volvo dealer in Curacao is charging USD 94.00 for an air filter and USD 46.00 for a diesel filter for my DS3-111. Where do you guys stock parts like this and what are the prices that you see in the market in the U.S. or Europe?

fair winds,

Alex

SY NO STRESS

A54-15

 


Re: Faulty Residual Current operated Circuit-Breaker,

Alan Leslie
 

Hello 
Seems to me that since you can run all your appliances without tripping the breaker when the generator is running , everything with your appliances is OK.
The problem must be on the shore power side.
It could be that your shore power cable has a fault with leaking to ground, maybe it has been contaminated with salt water.
Your meter measurements indicate that could be the problem.
The measurement between blue and ground and brown and ground should be very high and more or less the same.
You say you have already replaced the plug and the shore power relay, I would suggest replacing the shore power cable itself.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Noumea


Series Drogue Construction Details

Mark Isaac
 

Hello All-

For those of you that carry a series drogue, what line was used to make it?  At least one company out there offers the drogue made fully or partially from the newer HMPE fibers.  Given the difference in characteristics (stretch and coefficient of friction come to mind)  between these new fibers and the double braid nylon used in the original study, I wonder if this is a good idea and if there are any studies to support this. 

The weight savings with the newer fibers would be substantial.  My concerns are that the cones may slip off or the shock load would cause damage to the boat and/or allow the drogue to break free.

Also, according to the original study, a boat displacing 40,000 pounds will require 160 cones give or take a few.  Several manufacturers of the drogue suggest construction using only 147 cones, but I can't find anything to explain the reduction in number.

Mark Isaac
SM 391, Lulu
South Freeport, Maine



Series Drogue Construction Details

Mark Isaac
 

Hello All-

For those of you that carry a series drogue, what line was used to make it?  At least one company out there offers the drogue made fully or partially from the newer HMPE fibers.  Given the difference in characteristics (stretch and coefficient of friction come to mind)  between these new fibers and the double braid nylon used in the original study, I wonder if this is a good idea and if there are any studies to support this. 

The weight savings with the newer fibers would be substantial.  My concerns are that the cones may slip off or the shock load would cause damage to the boat and/or allow the drogue to break free.

Also, according to the original study, a boat displacing 40,000 pounds will require 160 cones give or take a few.  Several manufacturers of the drogue suggest construction using only 147 cones, but I can't find anything to explain the reduction in number.

Mark Isaac
SM 391, Lulu
South Freeport, Maine




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rigging

amelforme
 

Hello Heinz and I am sure you are really looking forward to heading out into the Pacific. One important question in order to give you correct advice, how old is the standing rigging on your boat today?

 

Have fun with your Amel, Joel

 

JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 10:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rigging

 

 

Hallo all

 

I hope everyone survived the hurricane well.

my Quetzal is currently in Shelter Bay Marina in Panama on the dry one.

Does anyone know a good Rigger in panama?

I would like to have my rig checked before I go on to the Pacific.

I would be grateful for an answer.

 

Fair Winds

Heinz Stutenbäumer

SV Quetzal, SM 2000 - 292


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Question about the refrigiration system on an A54

Arno Luijten
 

Hi,

If the pump gets that hot first check the voltage across the pump when running. It should be between 12 and 14 volts. If not the pump interface is broken as this converts the 24 volt coming from the compressor regulator to 12 volt.
I have ordered a new one at "www.penguinfrigo.co.uk". As I have received it by now, I can confirm it is physically the exact same as the original.

Direct link:

If the voltage is good then your pump is not working properly. It does get warm but not hot.

Interestingly I ordered two new pumps from penguinfrigo as well and I received two 24 volts pumps with stickers on them that these were intended for 12 volt.

My guess is that the originals were similar only the official frigoboat stickers ran out. Running a high capacity pump on 12 volt has three advantages

- It lasts longer
- It makes less noise
- it runs cooler

If the capacity is sufficient at 12 volts then you are good to go.

I will make a picture of the pump as soon as I am on the boat.

Arno
 


Re: Santorin Manuals?

Ian Park
 

Del
Pressed the wrong button! I don't have a wind generator on this boat, found them a bit noisy and also needed maintenance. On Ocean Hobo 8 have 200w of solar panel mounted on the aft side rails. They swivel to face the sun, or lie vertical against the rails while sailing.
The Santorin has a prop shaft alternator, so once your sailing at over 5 knots the batteries stay fully charged. I have four 100ah AGMs and a separate starter battery.
In UK I leave the fridge on and the solar panels keep the batteries at 100% while anchored. In the tropics the fridge works much harder and at anchor and the batteries were down to 75% in three days. I have a 2000w portable generator which connects straight to the shore power plug and charge through my battery charger, whilst also giving me hot water and mains power if I wanted it. It doesn't get used too often. A genset fitted would cost 5 or 6 times the price of the portable one.
I do have a watermaker fitted, and that is a great asset if you're living aboard for several months. The HP pump on mine is engine driven rather than electric, so no 12v power needed there.

Anything else you need to know, just ask

Good hunting

Ian


Re: Santorin Manuals?

Ian Park
 

I don’t have a wind generator


Re: Santorin Manuals?

haggismuncheruk@...
 

Hi Ian, 

Thanks for the info, so without a Genny onboard how do you find the battery bank holds up, do you have solar and wind fitted to keep them up or do you run the engine to charge the batteries.

I am indeed UK based, like yourself I too am a Scotsman thats moved south and I am currently based in East Anglia.

Best regards

Del


---In amelyachtowners@..., <parkianj@...> wrote :

Derek
Congratulations on your Santorin hunt. A very fine boat. I don’t believe there was ever a Santorin manual. I had a downloaded version of the SM manual which I found invaluable.. you just ignore the sections that the Santorin doesn’t have (dishwasher, washing machine, generator, dessalator etc.) I believe (but willing to be corrected) that most other parts were the same as the SM - sail gearboxes and motors, windlass, bow thruster, C drive, rotary autopilot, ballooner poles and setup and many other things. If true then the Santorin is very well over engineered, which is a great plus.
Anyway, there are one or two original Amel Santorin plans on the Yahoo site which are worth downloading.
Otherwise, there are quite a few of us ‘smaller sisters’ on the Amel owners site always ready with support.
For my part, if you are planning ocean passages - try and acquire the ketch. I never had a ketch before, but very glad I have one now. Extremely versatile for short handed sailing.
The Santorin is the biggest boat I have owned and is a dream to manoeuvre in and out of a tight space.
Good luck.

Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96

PS where are you based - we’ve just brought the boat back home to North Wales from the Caribbean. Sounds like you are UK.

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