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Re: Bowsprit for Super Maramu

jdezulue@...
 

Hi Alexandre,

Many thanks for all those pictures.
Do you always need a hook ?
Do you how the hook is attached to the boat inside?
Can you make a picture?


I have seen a à picture of a bowsprit which was done in France, it does not seems to need a hook... but I believe if it is safer to put it.



Many thanks in advance.

Juan de Zulueta

Ophelie X


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] day fuel tank

michael winand
 

Thanks Alexandre
I am doing the same as you have recommended. Maybe overkill. But good to know that the fuel in the tank is clean.

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 0:17, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good morning Michael,

On Nikimat, I had 5 x 20 liter Jerry can full of diesel in the lazarette.
My refueling rules (probably over killed) was:
fill up jerry can, then transfer them to main thank through a Baja filter.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sat, 11/10/18, michael winand mfw642000@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] day fuel tank
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Date: Saturday, November 10, 2018, 10:11 PM


 









Thanks Bill.I
am looking at this for a little extra fuel capacity  say
100-120litres and to also be able to get the filtration
system sorted. A
pump system through a large  filter to the day tank. Day
tank over flow back to the main. In
a large seaway I will be more comfortable with knowing that
when the main tank is down to the last 100 liters  I have a
good supply at the day tank. Current
setup has the engine having to suck fuel  as the main 
tank gets down to 1/3 . I
am thinking that gravity feed from above wouldn't
hurt. I
would still have a second set of filters on the day
tank. Regards
Michael 

Sent
from Yahoo7 Mail on Android
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 at
14:26, greatketch@...
[amelyachtowners]
wrote:
 









This is really a matter of cruising style and
preference.  Some people feel that a Super Maramu's
installed fuel capacity is not adequate for a world cruising
boat, and others worry about fuel going bad before they use
it.  Neither approach is wrong, it really is a matter of
taste.  Some people fire up the engine anytime boat speed
drops below 5 knots.  Others are perfectly happy drifting
along at 2 knots.  
I
know our boat has already been around the world--TWICE--with
only the factory installed fuel tank.  I decided not to add
complexity--and weight--by changing an obviously successful
design.
Don't
forget, by dropping your speed from 6 knots to 5 knots
you--almost--double your motoring range.  Go to 4 knots and
you--almost--double it again.
I don't have a recommendation on
how to install a day tank, just an observation that it MIGHT
not be the way you want to go.  If you do want to go that
way, I know several people on this forum have, and will have
good ideas on how to do it.
Bill KinneySM160,
HarmonieHollywood Florida,
USA











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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] day fuel tank

Alan Leslie
 

We do the same. We have 10 x 20 litre containers in the port side deck locker.
We have never needed to use them and end up putting the fuel in the main tank eventually.
For the last two years I have not filled them and contemplate getting rid of them from time to time!
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit enclosure fittings

Danny Simms
 

Hi Willem,
Olivier told me the hook on the ends goes in the ring below the mizzen boom and the u shape clamps around the mizzen side stay. It was a system provided by Amel on later model SM
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 02:07, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good morning Willem,

I had a full cockpit enclosure with the same parts.
Quite frankly I never was fully sure where went where…
It seems the 2 pieces with U shape on one side and little hook on the other were going:
U shape on the shroud (you should have a little round block of metal on the shroud above which that bar will rest) and the Hook on the mizzen (not sure exactly where, on the top, gooseneck, etc.)
If you look closely on the 2nd and 3rd pictures from the bottom you will see for the U shape.
http://www.nikimat.com/bimini.html

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 11/11/18, kavanga@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit enclosure fittings [2 Attachments]
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, November 11, 2018, 6:23 AM


 









Hello fellow Super Maramu
owners,
For the winter period I
changed my new summer cockpit sprayhood for the old vinyl
one I still carry on board. This also for het cockpit
enclosure vinyl pieces I have on board. Some are not much
used. In the garage I found 3 stainless steel bars. One just
fits in and has two identical end fittings welded on. The
other two are smaller and are identical with on each end
different fittings. Obviously these are ment to be used for
the cockpit enclosure. I have no idea where to attach these
bars. I hope that some of you has identical fittings for the
cockpit enclosure and will be so kind to inform me. For this
reason I made 2 pictures of the bars and end
fittings.If you have pictures about the
installation of a similar enclosure, that will be great if
you email these to me.
Best
regards,
Willem
Kroes
SM #351 KAVANGA






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

Danny Simms
 

Hi Bill.
I would have to agree with you, your experience with Harmonie proves it. However Alan of Elyse has a point too, over use of the power of the mainsheet winch by inexperienced crew.  By whatever means a  number of boats have a failure here. Which brings me to your comments about the damage seen on non Amel boats. It would seem Amel has again put a smart design in place, a low cost and high safety weak point. How much better to have the block break off the boom than have the boom break. The block can be reattached temporarily by a line around the boom. A bit hard to replace a boom mid ocean
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 at 14:54, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

After hearing about, and seeing several boats, with problems at the attachment between the main boom and the mainsheet, I went back and took an extra careful look at this part on Harmonie.  No evidence of any problem (or any repair) at all.  Having gone looking because I was thinking this was a weak point in the design of the boom, and coming into our boat after it has already completed two circumnavigations, I was fully expecting to find at least a subtle issue I have missed before.


NOT finding it had me wondering: Why?  What could cause a failure of this part, other than normal time and wear?  

Accidental gybes.

I am pretty sure I have said this before, but...  there are two important things to remember.  First, of course, is to use your preventer whenever possible.  It would be nice to say "always" but sometimes you just have a little way to go, and it is a bit of a pain to rig, so...  

The second point, and I think even more critical, is to use the traveler.  

If the traveler is centered, and the boom is eased using only the sheet, it can gain great speed and momentum when it gybes.  The force required to stop it can cause damage in a number of places, and the attachment point of the sheet to the boom is obviously vulnerable. If the traveler is dropped all the way down to the leeward side before easing the mainsheet, even if (when!) a gybe  happens the boom crosses only about to the center line, and the force needed to stop it is greatly reduced, along with the potential for damage.

I know both previous owners of Harmonie were very fussy about using the traveler.  With over 100K miles under her keel, I imagine she has seen more accidental gybes than I have inflicted on her, but with the traveler always down, it isn't nearly as hard on the boat as it might otherwise have been.

I have seen some really ugly things happen as the result of accidental gybes on non-Amel boats. From broken blocks, through broken booms, right on up to dismastings.  Anything that can be done to reduce the forces involved is a good thing.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, Florida


Re: Aft Head Hose

Duane Siegfri
 

The "cleaning vinegar" (it was so labeled) did open the pipe enough to flush it, but not enough to flush easily and it's already plugging up.  I ordered a bottle of "Sew Clean" to see if that works.  

I have had several people tell me they do a monthly overnight vinegar soak of that hose and have had no further problems so maybe the secret is keeping the buildup in check.

Thanks to all for your experience,
Duane



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] day fuel tank

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Michael,

On Nikimat, I had 5 x 20 liter Jerry can full of diesel in the lazarette.
My refueling rules (probably over killed) was:
fill up jerry can, then transfer them to main thank through a Baja filter.

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 11/10/18, michael winand mfw642000@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] day fuel tank
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Saturday, November 10, 2018, 10:11 PM


 









Thanks Bill.I
am looking at this for a little extra fuel capacity  say
100-120litres and to also be able to get the filtration
system sorted. A
pump system through a large  filter to the day tank. Day
tank over flow back to the main. In
a large seaway I will be more comfortable with knowing that
when the main tank is down to the last 100 liters  I have a
good supply at the day tank. Current
setup has the engine having to suck fuel  as the main 
tank gets down to 1/3 . I
am thinking that gravity feed from above wouldn't
hurt. I
would still have a second set of filters on the day
tank. Regards
Michael 

Sent
from Yahoo7 Mail on Android
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 at
14:26, greatketch@...
[amelyachtowners]<amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
 









This is really a matter of cruising style and
preference.  Some people feel that a Super Maramu's
installed fuel capacity is not adequate for a world cruising
boat, and others worry about fuel going bad before they use
it.  Neither approach is wrong, it really is a matter of
taste.  Some people fire up the engine anytime boat speed
drops below 5 knots.  Others are perfectly happy drifting
along at 2 knots.  
I
know our boat has already been around the world--TWICE--with
only the factory installed fuel tank.  I decided not to add
complexity--and weight--by changing an obviously successful
design.
Don't
forget, by dropping your speed from 6 knots to 5 knots
you--almost--double your motoring range.  Go to 4 knots and
you--almost--double it again.
I don't have a recommendation on
how to install a day tank, just an observation that it MIGHT
not be the way you want to go.  If you do want to go that
way, I know several people on this forum have, and will have
good ideas on how to do it.
Bill KinneySM160,
HarmonieHollywood Florida,
USA











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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit enclosure fittings [2 Attachments]

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Willem,

I had a full cockpit enclosure with the same parts.
Quite frankly I never was fully sure where went where…
It seems the 2 pieces with U shape on one side and little hook on the other were going:
U shape on the shroud (you should have a little round block of metal on the shroud above which that bar will rest) and the Hook on the mizzen (not sure exactly where, on the top, gooseneck, etc.)
If you look closely on the 2nd and 3rd pictures from the bottom you will see for the U shape.
http://www.nikimat.com/bimini.html

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 11/11/18, kavanga@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit enclosure fittings [2 Attachments]
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, November 11, 2018, 6:23 AM


 









Hello fellow Super Maramu
owners,
For the winter period I
changed my new summer cockpit sprayhood for the old vinyl
one I still carry on board. This also for het cockpit
enclosure vinyl pieces I have on board. Some are not much
used. In the garage I found 3 stainless steel bars. One just
fits in and has two identical end fittings welded on. The
other two are smaller and are identical with on each end
different fittings. Obviously these are ment to be used for
the cockpit enclosure. I have no idea where to attach these
bars. I hope that some of you has identical fittings for the
cockpit enclosure and will be so kind to inform me. For this
reason I made 2 pictures of the bars and end
fittings.If you have pictures about the
installation of a similar enclosure, that will be great if
you email these to me.
Best
regards,
Willem
Kroes
SM #351 KAVANGA


Cockpit enclosure fittings

Willem Kroes
 

Hello fellow Super Maramu owners,


For the winter period I changed my new summer cockpit sprayhood for the old vinyl one I still carry on board. This also for het cockpit enclosure vinyl pieces I have on board. Some are not much used. In the garage I found 3 stainless steel bars. One just fits in and has two identical end fittings welded on. The other two are smaller and are identical with on each end different fittings. Obviously these are ment to be used for the cockpit enclosure. I have no idea where to attach these bars. I hope that some of you has identical fittings for the cockpit enclosure and will be so kind to inform me. For this reason I made 2 pictures of the bars and end fittings.

If you have pictures about the installation of a similar enclosure, that will be great if you email these to me.


Best regards,


Willem Kroes


SM #351 KAVANGA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Head Hose

INUS - BUSCH
 

Last time I also did an experiment: I took the old incrustinated joker valve in a glass with vinegar essence (via Google it could be called also vinegar concentrate). In German „Essigessenz“. It is a 25 % solution of acetic acid (CAS 64-19-7) in water and much stronger than vinegar. The result: Immediately I could see small bubbles on the surface of the valve (it worked) and after about 30 minutes the bubbling had stopped and the joker valve was like new. One should be careful when using vinegar essence undiluted but it works fantastic. Just my 2 cents.

Dieter
Sharki #135 Fal-lera

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 11.11.2018 um 05:53 schrieb Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

FYI.

When changing discharge hoses, I decided to experiment with some of the solid cristalized urin/saltwater in the old hose. I broke see out and added it to 3 glass jars. One jar had pure vinegar, the 2nd had 50% vinegar and 50% saltwater, the 3rd had 50% vinegar and 50% freshwater.

30 days later - no change
60 days later - no change
90 days later - no change
120 days later - I gave up😀

I believe that positive vinegar solutions to head problems are nothing more than a placebo effect.  

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018, 22:34 greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

In my experience, it might just take months for a vinegar soak to actually do any good. For those of us who live on our boats 12 months a year, a month long soak is just not a practical solution.  Most boats that get taken out of the water for months, do so because of cold weather.  Leaving vinegar in lines in freezing temperatures is not a good idea.


All the other ideas you suggest are certainly good ones, but again, if you are in a place (like all of the waters of the USA) where discharge of raw sewage is never allowed, it is impractical to flush with enough water to clear the lines every time.  The tank just fills too fast.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, Florida, USA





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

Arthur Sundqvist
 

Thank you Mark!
That seems the  way to to go .BOTH.
We are now living in the boat over the winter and have time to fix a lot of things.
The plan is to depart south 1 June 2019.

Kind regards
arthur
Vista SM 435


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

Arthur Sundqvist
 

Thanks Steve!
Wich system are you using?
Iridium, Inmarsat or something else?

Kind regards
Arthur
Vista SM 435


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Head Hose

 

FYI.

When changing discharge hoses, I decided to experiment with some of the solid cristalized urin/saltwater in the old hose. I broke see out and added it to 3 glass jars. One jar had pure vinegar, the 2nd had 50% vinegar and 50% saltwater, the 3rd had 50% vinegar and 50% freshwater.

30 days later - no change
60 days later - no change
90 days later - no change
120 days later - I gave up😀

I believe that positive vinegar solutions to head problems are nothing more than a placebo effect.  

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sat, Nov 10, 2018, 22:34 greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

In my experience, it might just take months for a vinegar soak to actually do any good. For those of us who live on our boats 12 months a year, a month long soak is just not a practical solution.  Most boats that get taken out of the water for months, do so because of cold weather.  Leaving vinegar in lines in freezing temperatures is not a good idea.


All the other ideas you suggest are certainly good ones, but again, if you are in a place (like all of the waters of the USA) where discharge of raw sewage is never allowed, it is impractical to flush with enough water to clear the lines every time.  The tank just fills too fast.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, Florida, USA





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] day fuel tank

michael winand
 

Thanks Bill.
I am looking at this for a little extra fuel capacity  say 100-120litres and to also be able to get the filtration system sorted. 
A pump system through a large  filter to the day tank. Day tank over flow back to the main. 
In a large seaway I will be more comfortable with knowing that when the main tank is down to the last 100 liters  I have a good supply at the day tank. 
Current setup has the engine having to suck fuel  as the main  tank gets down to 1/3 . 
I am thinking that gravity feed from above wouldn't hurt. 
I would still have a second set of filters on the day tank. 
Regards Michael 

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 at 14:26, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
 

This is really a matter of cruising style and preference.  Some people feel that a Super Maramu's installed fuel capacity is not adequate for a world cruising boat, and others worry about fuel going bad before they use it.  Neither approach is wrong, it really is a matter of taste.  Some people fire up the engine anytime boat speed drops below 5 knots.  Others are perfectly happy drifting along at 2 knots.  


I know our boat has already been around the world--TWICE--with only the factory installed fuel tank.  I decided not to add complexity--and weight--by changing an obviously successful design.

Don't forget, by dropping your speed from 6 knots to 5 knots you--almost--double your motoring range.  Go to 4 knots and you--almost--double it again.

I don't have a recommendation on how to install a day tank, just an observation that it MIGHT not be the way you want to go.  If you do want to go that way, I know several people on this forum have, and will have good ideas on how to do it.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood Florida, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Head Hose

greatketch@...
 

In my experience, it might just take months for a vinegar soak to actually do any good. For those of us who live on our boats 12 months a year, a month long soak is just not a practical solution.  Most boats that get taken out of the water for months, do so because of cold weather.  Leaving vinegar in lines in freezing temperatures is not a good idea.

All the other ideas you suggest are certainly good ones, but again, if you are in a place (like all of the waters of the USA) where discharge of raw sewage is never allowed, it is impractical to flush with enough water to clear the lines every time.  The tank just fills too fast.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, Florida, USA





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] day fuel tank

greatketch@...
 

This is really a matter of cruising style and preference.  Some people feel that a Super Maramu's installed fuel capacity is not adequate for a world cruising boat, and others worry about fuel going bad before they use it.  Neither approach is wrong, it really is a matter of taste.  Some people fire up the engine anytime boat speed drops below 5 knots.  Others are perfectly happy drifting along at 2 knots.  

I know our boat has already been around the world--TWICE--with only the factory installed fuel tank.  I decided not to add complexity--and weight--by changing an obviously successful design.

Don't forget, by dropping your speed from 6 knots to 5 knots you--almost--double your motoring range.  Go to 4 knots and you--almost--double it again.

I don't have a recommendation on how to install a day tank, just an observation that it MIGHT not be the way you want to go.  If you do want to go that way, I know several people on this forum have, and will have good ideas on how to do it.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood Florida, USA


Re: Marinas / harbours in Hawaii

greatketch@...
 

We stayed at Ala Wai Marina in Honolulu for several months. We found it delightful--and infuriating.

It was convenient to downtown, and easy to live in without a car.  It is right on the edge of Waikiki, so it is a bustling place.  If you prefer peace and quiet it might not be the best choice for you.  It is in the middle of the city, and that is both good, and sometimes, not so good.  Drug use, and homelessness are problems about which they do not have even a clue to a management, much less solutions.

Like almost all marinas in Hawai'i it is owned, and run, by the state.  The people who run it are friendly and delightful, but totally constrained by the "Rules."  And there are a LOT of rules. Customer service is NOT a priority.  Just as an example: the staff is not allowed to help a boat when it approaches the dock because of "Liability." Fortunately, dock neighbors are (as a rule) helpful. 

Maintenance is terrible.  Two boats while we were there broke free of their bow moorings because the chain had corroded away to nothing while waiting for the work order to replace it to be approved.  The office and payment systems were humorously archaic--at best. Think typewriters.  Seriously.  We have never been at a marina with an office more technologically backward--anywhere.

Facilities are adequate.  Certainly not the best place you have ever stayed.  On the other hand, convenience is great.

A reservation is required, or at least highly recommended.  We made the reservation before we left California, and updated our arrival time en route by satphone.

You can find a lot about our time in Hawai'i on our blog if you start here:  

We also visited Ko Olina Marina on Oahu.  It is (I think?) the only private marina on the island, but found it far too remote for our automobile-less life.

The issues are serious, and sometimes funny, but all things considered, if we were back on Oahu, we'd stay there again. Alternatives did not meet out needs.

Feel free to contact us by email if you have any questions.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, Florida, USA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

greatketch@...
 

After hearing about, and seeing several boats, with problems at the attachment between the main boom and the mainsheet, I went back and took an extra careful look at this part on Harmonie.  No evidence of any problem (or any repair) at all.  Having gone looking because I was thinking this was a weak point in the design of the boom, and coming into our boat after it has already completed two circumnavigations, I was fully expecting to find at least a subtle issue I have missed before.

NOT finding it had me wondering: Why?  What could cause a failure of this part, other than normal time and wear?  

Accidental gybes.

I am pretty sure I have said this before, but...  there are two important things to remember.  First, of course, is to use your preventer whenever possible.  It would be nice to say "always" but sometimes you just have a little way to go, and it is a bit of a pain to rig, so...  

The second point, and I think even more critical, is to use the traveler.  

If the traveler is centered, and the boom is eased using only the sheet, it can gain great speed and momentum when it gybes.  The force required to stop it can cause damage in a number of places, and the attachment point of the sheet to the boom is obviously vulnerable. If the traveler is dropped all the way down to the leeward side before easing the mainsheet, even if (when!) a gybe  happens the boom crosses only about to the center line, and the force needed to stop it is greatly reduced, along with the potential for damage.

I know both previous owners of Harmonie were very fussy about using the traveler.  With over 100K miles under her keel, I imagine she has seen more accidental gybes than I have inflicted on her, but with the traveler always down, it isn't nearly as hard on the boat as it might otherwise have been.

I have seen some really ugly things happen as the result of accidental gybes on non-Amel boats. From broken blocks, through broken booms, right on up to dismastings.  Anything that can be done to reduce the forces involved is a good thing.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, Florida


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

Mark Erdos
 

Authur,

 

I 100% agree with Steve. We have both SSB + Pactor and Sat-Phone. Redundancy is best if you can afford it.

 

We use a minimal plan on the sat-phone and pay about $60 per month and about $1.50 per minute. We only ever use the phone on extended passages and when the SSB is problematic. To receive a grib file of weather takes about 5 minutes using the phone as a modem for our ships navigation computer. We do not use Iridium Go but use the phone as a data modem connected to the computer. This yields a lot more options for connection. We can lay weather over charts and view it along our planned route using Nobeltec TZ software. We calculated that it is less expensive to use the data and pay as we go rather than pay a higher monthly fee and not use it. It seems we sit still for long periods or have access to wi-fi. The highest bill be have ever had was about $200 using it daily for 2 weeks.

 

I personally prefer the SSB and find it a little faster. Cindy prefers the SSB when she does it.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Aruba

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 6:30 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

 

 

I pay just under $150/mo with all taxes for unlimited data and texting, and 150 min of sat phone talk time per month. They have less expensive plans, but I don’t like to worry about data usage. 

 

Steve

Aloha SM72


On Nov 10, 2018, at 10:56, Arthur Sundqvist arthur@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you Steve!

What is the estimated cost for the Iridium Go per month?

 

Arthur Sundqvist

SM 435, Vista



10 nov. 2018 kl. 21:00 skrev Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

We have both, and a Pactor 4 modem.. I like redundancy, and would not be content relying on a sole source. We keep our sail mail account up to date, and generally use the Iridium Go and sail docs for weather. We can use the modem if necessary, but I find the Iridium faster and more reliable. We use Predict Wind as well, but find I get more detailed weather info from sail docs. Predict Wind allows me to get the euro model GRIBS, and sail docs does not. 

Steve Davis

Aloha SM72

Hawaii


On Nov 10, 2018, at 9:41 AM, arthur@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

 Do I need both SSB and Satellite phone when going to the Pacific?

You who have only the satellite phone, what does it cos per month to download  the weather every day for predict wind?

You who are really far out there and know a lot what is your suggestion and advice?

 

Arthur Sundqvist

SM 435, VISTA

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

Stephen Davis
 

I pay just under $150/mo with all taxes for unlimited data and texting, and 150 min of sat phone talk time per month. They have less expensive plans, but I don’t like to worry about data usage. 

Steve
Aloha SM72

On Nov 10, 2018, at 10:56, Arthur Sundqvist arthur@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you Steve!

What is the estimated cost for the Iridium Go per month?

Arthur Sundqvist
SM 435, Vista

10 nov. 2018 kl. 21:00 skrev Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

We have both, and a Pactor 4 modem. I like redundancy, and would not be content relying on a sole source. We keep our sail mail account up to date, and generally use the Iridium Go and sail docs for weather. We can use the modem if necessary, but I find the Iridium faster and more reliable. We use Predict Wind as well, but find I get more detailed weather info from sail docs. Predict Wind allows me to get the euro model GRIBS, and sail docs does not. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
Hawaii

On Nov 10, 2018, at 9:41 AM, arthur@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 Do I need both SSB and Satellite phone when going to the Pacific?

You who have only the satellite phone, what does it cos per month to download  the weather every day for predict wind?

You who are really far out there and know a lot what is your suggestion and advice?


Arthur Sundqvist

SM 435, VISTA