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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Head sail furling
Stephen Davis
Hi Kent, I can’t help you with expertise in the area you are in, but if you are willing to backtrack to St Augustine, you can get some help. We had some work performed at St Augustine Marine in 2015, and they have a good rigger there who removed and rebuilt my headsail furler. His name is Andrew, he is still working there, and I’d trust him to do the work. In our case, the shaft and bronze gear were in good shape, but he replaced every seal in the unit, put it back together, and re-installed on the boat. I’m on my way back to Hawaii from Florida tomorrow. I have a new bronze gear and stainless shaft for the furler, and would be willing to ship to you if needed. I would need you to get me replacements within a few months, as I don’t want to give up my spares. Also, I have a list of the all the seal sizes for the furler on my boat I can send you. With a little luck, Maude has some spares on the shelf to send you. Another option should be to take my new ones to a machine shop for duplication, and then send mine back to me. Let me know if any of this will help you out. Happy New Year, Steve Aloha SM 72 Hawaii
On Jan 2, 2019, at 12:31, karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: Engine Repower for Super Maramu
Miles
Hi Dan,
I also repowered two years ago with a Volvo Penta D2-75 after Amel warned me not to go to 110 hp. The D2-75 has a much broader torque curve and feels more powerful than the old engine. It is also very smooth and quiet and fuel efficient.
Smooth sailing,
Miles
s/y Ladybug sm 216, Martinique
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] TMD22 Turbo
Steve,
I would be very surprised if you couldn’t find a shop locally. There are only three major manufactures of turbocharges worldwide. Garrett and Mitsubishi are the main two; I forget the third. This would not be a Volvo produced item. Once a shop sees it, they will know which rebuilt kit to use. They should not make any changes to the fan and use the one you have (this is important), the rest of the turbo rebuild are seals and bearings. Unless it is frozen from saltwater penetration, you should be able to have it rebuilt.
I would suggest checking with a local diesel mechanic and asking them where they take their turbo charges for rebuilding (this might cost you a beer). Or, pay them a few dollars to source someone on your behalf.
A quick Google search found this: http://bwscpanama.com/index.php/en/services/turbocharger-service-and-maintenance
Good luck!
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff www.creampuff.us
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I have a TMD 22 Volvo Penta 1999/2000 Does anyone have a source for a rebuild kit or a rebuilt Turbocharger P/N 380291, new ones are almost $2600.00 Steve, S.V. Forever Young, Shelter Bay Panama
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Re: Head sail furling
greatketch@...
Kent,
Before you condemn the gearing inside the box, be sure that the drive pin in the furling drum is fully engaging in the drive plate that is mounted on top of the gearbox. We had our drive plate blow apart a few years ago, and other people have had trouble with the hole rounding over and pushing the pin up. That sounds like the more likely cause. Having just had our furling gearbox apart for routine maintenance, I think it very unlikely that the gearing inside the gearbox is the problem. Certainly possible, but unlikely given what you describe as symptoms. For the manual furling line, we have 10mm double braid dacron. That worked great for us on the two occasions we needed it. I wonder if the StaySet might be too stiff? 7/16" would not be too big. If you need this unit disassembled and looked at, you might try Nance and Underwood, riggers in Fort Lauderdale. They know Amel's very well, and Roger Underwood has been a help when we have used him. If you need a new drive plate, I know they can make one for you. Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rough engine at idle
Miles,
A couple of thoughts:
Are the engine mounts in good condition? (asking this based on the issue of noise or knocking sound when running shaft alternator) Did the problem begin after you last filled up with fuel? If so, you may have bad fuel. Do you have a good flow of fuel all the way from the tank to the injectors (checking filters, joints for leakage, etc all along the fuel path) Have you bled the system to eliminate air?
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia www.creampuff.us
From:
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Hello fellow amelians
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Sludge in fuel tank
ya_fohi
Hi all, Out Amel 54 is 10 years old, and the fuel tank has never been cleaned. I noticed today from the dip stick gauge that there is a coating of sticky sludge at the bottom off the tank. I have no prior experience of treating this, and am reluctant to try while we are on a mooring buoy. I would appreciate ny advice on a) if this should be addressed urgently and b) how best to do it. Cheers, Paul Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98
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TMD22 Turbo
Steve Harmon
I'm looking for a source for parts or a rebuild kit, or rebuilt Turbocharger for a TMD22 Volvo Penta, Turbocharger Part number is 38029., A new one by the way is $2600.00 Steve on Forever Young / Panama Canal
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Genoa sheet cars
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Miles, assuming your Maramu is same as the SM in this respect. I took the screws out of the stanchion base and pushed it sideways to allow the car to slide off. However it was a challenge to get one of the screws out. Others have cut the sides of a short section the track off to allow the car to come off. This method assumes you don't need the full length. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 02 January 2019 at 14:23 "smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: Engine Repower for Super Maramu
greatketch@...
Dan,
Even before you get to talking with Yanmar about the isolated ground, talk to Amel about your C-Drive. It has been mentioned several times here that the older C-Drives are not rated for greater than 100 HP. I have never talked to them first hand about this, but the information comes from reliable sources! Now about grounding...A full answer to that question is complicated and somewhat nuanced. Let me try doing a short form... The Amel has three electrical systems onboard (actually a few more depending on how you count, but this works for now). The 24V DC system, the 220V AC system, and the bonding system. In the Amel concept these systems are designed to be completely independent, and have no cross connections. This minimizes the chance of problems with stray current corrosion, and with managing the problems that come about when plugged into shore power. Amel did violate this total isolation in a few places, but that's another story... The engine block needs to be part of the bonding system for both lightening strike mitigation and corrosion control, especially of the C-drive components. Most engines manufacturers also make the engine block part of the negative return circuit to the starting battery. If this is true, then you have connected the bonding circuit to the battery negative through the engine block defeating the isolated bonding circuit. This makes leakage currents (and all the very serious problems they can cause) both more likely, and much harder to detect. I know when you are repowering it is a pain to put an isolated ground as a "must have," and many people will try to talk you out of it, but stick to it. It is important. Engines can have isolated grounds in two ways. Have starting motors that are isolated from the block and have their own negative connection, or have a relay that opens the block ground when it is not needed. In either case, the alternator needs to be the isolated return type, and all the instrument senders need to be two-wire isolated ground. All of the above information applies to the generator as well. Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Engine Repower for Super Maramu
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Dan, I will leave your question re the grounding to others, however I would suggest you should check with Amel as to whether your C drive can handle the 110 hp. When I repowered SM 299 Amel warned me not to go up from the 78hp of the previous engine as my C drive was not engineered to handle the 110hp and would fail. Later models had an upgraded C drive when Amel added the larger engine. I put in the Volvo D2-75. Yanma have a 75 hp option Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 03 January 2019 at 03:41 "dwilcox123@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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TMD22 Turbo
Steve Harmon
I have a TMD 22 Volvo Penta 1999/2000 Does anyone have a source for a rebuild kit or a rebuilt Turbocharger P/N 380291, new ones are almost $2600.00 Steve, S.V. Forever Young, Shelter Bay Panama
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Re: Head sail furling
Hi all, Happy 2019!!!
We finally got away from the Chesapeake just before Christmas. Now in Lake Worth to visit friends. Our jib furler failed to hold while shortening sail in 20kts of wind. The motor turns but sounds like the gears are grinding. After a few turns it gives and the sail unfurls. I just bought a new line for manually furling, 150’ of 3/8” StaSet. It doesn’t hold the sail furled part way, the line slips in the drum. We managed to get it furled (loosely) completely, by augmenting the manual furling line with short bursts of the motor. I think the gears are stripped or out of alignment. Does anyone know of a place in Palm Beach or Ft Lauderdale that might be able to do repairs? If not, will 7/16” line hold better on the furling drum until we can get to Amel Caraibes? Any other suggestions or thoughts? I don’t want to disassemble the gearbox unless I’m pretty sure I can complete repairs before heading out again. Thanks in advance for any help, Kent & Iris Kristy SM 243
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Rough engine at idle
smiles bernard
Hello fellow amelians
In the canaries our engine purred nicely When we arrived in the Cape Verde’s it was a little rough on idle On first running since the roughish Atlantic crossing (40-45kts during last 5 days) its even rougher still I have a Perkins m65 with around 3k hours It starts on the button but vibrates lots until the revs are increased. Would be great to hear thoughts on any simple things I could try. I don’t think I can adjust the idle speed on the engine. Perhaps I could via the throttle cable but don’t want to make matters worse. I’ve bled the fuel I’m currently in Barbados where I can’t seem to find a diesel mechanic Next stop Martinique where I’m sure I’ll find good professional We ran the prop shaft alternator on the long crossing for 2 weeks straight. I started to notice that in the higher winds towards the end of the trip the noise from the rotating prop would change to a less regular sound at speed - almost a knocking sound I think perhaps the prop shaft alignment needs adjusting. Perhaps the two issues are related although if so I’d imagine the vibrations to get worse with increased revs rather than get better Any thoughts most appreciated and any pointers to good mechanics in Martinique would be great too All the very best Miles
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Engine Repower for Super Maramu
Dan Wilcox
Happy New Year! This spring I will be repowering Feierabend, our 1992 Super Maramu which currently has a very tired Perkins Prima 80. I'm in the pacific northwest, and looking at putting in a Yanmar 110hp. The yard I plan to use has repowered another SM, and are well aware of needing an ungrounded engine. Their concern is the other Yanmar 110hp they installed was modified to be ungrounded., but not sure if the new Yanmars can be with their electronics. They have contacted Yanmar to see if this can be done with the new electronic version. This has spurred on a couple questions: 1. I've read through some of the previous conversations, but don't have a good understanding why the Amel requires an ungrounded engine. With major rewiring and replacing many of the electronics the boat has required, is there a point where it would no longer need an ungrounded engine? 2. There is currently a Kohler 8EoZ generator that is original with the boat. Is this also ungrounded, or is that not a consideration for the generator? Thanks, Dan SV Feierabend SM #86
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Genoa sheet cars
smiles bernard
Happy new year !
We recently arrived in Barbados after fast crossing from Cape Verde’s The boat was great but I noticed a few things that I now need to address The port Genoa sheet car is worn at the point the shackles attaches. I think it’s an original mid 80s a goiot car. It has a stylised seagull shaped ensign. Does anyone know a suitable replacement for a vintage Maramu car and also how to remove / reinstall? I presume then come off the track fwd end. There is a stopper bolt head at the fwd end of the track so I presume I remove this and just slide the car off the track. Space for removal of the car looks really tight with a stanchion base though. If anyone has replaced their sheet cars any info would be very much appreciated All the very best Miles
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Caramelle for Sail!!
pjn.mccallin@...
Thanks to those who posted how I should send messages, , so for the deal of the century my address is pjndot Mccallin at gmail dot com
Sorry for the confusion,I’m open to sensible negotiations, so if you’ve yet to sell your present yacht it’s perhaps not your opportunity to buy a time warp AMEL. P S I’ve just fitted new wheels to the passerelle exactly the same as when delivered new, some might think I’m excessive!! As for the leather work, treated with kid gloves!!! Patrick.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Caramelle for sail!
David Wallace
This is quite interesting. On Patrick's original post the email address shows up in proper format. But for all the replies that include his post the address is truncated. (I'm on my iPad.) Go figure. And here's hoping for great sailing in the coming year!
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Dave Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Maramu #104
Sea of Cortex, MX
On Jan 1, 2019, at 7:38 AM, Brent Cameron
brentcameron61@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Caramelle for sail!
Thomas Peacock
I’ve noticed the same thing.
I believe that if you read the posts on the Yahoo webpage, it does indeed mangle the email addresses. If you use a built-in mail program (I use Apple’s built in on my MacBook and iPad), then the email addresses remain intact. So Yahoo doesn’t really strip it, it just displays it on its own webpage in a most unuseful form. So, probably safest to do the “at” routine, even though it’s a PIA. Tom Peacock Aletes SM 240 St Augustine, Florida
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Caramelle for sail!
HNY Brent,
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interesting. I'm using WIndows 10 and Chrome on an HP laptop. His email shows as pjn.mccallin at dot dot dot. It is colored blue like a link and when clicked attempts to go to email, but, of course, fails because of the invalid address. So, as you note, writing out ones email address with at and dot seems to be the ticket. Cheers, Craig ---In amelyachtowners@..., <brentcameron61@...> wrote : Happy New Year Craig (and to all Amelians), I’ve noticed that people often say that but his full email showed up fine (and as a link) for me so I wonder if it’s yahoo or your email program that strips it out. I’m on a MacBook and usually read these from one of my iDevices so not sure if that makes a difference. In any case, it still probably makes sense to also spell it out as you suggest. I often will do that just to make sure webcrawlers don’t scoop up my email and add me to their spam list but I’ve never had that happen with this forum. Brent Cameron, Future SM2K owner
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