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Re: Water Detection - Cleaning the fuel tank

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

There is a product called Kolor Kut Water Finding Paste that is used by fuel stations to determine if there is water in their fuel storage tanks.  With the Amel we can put some of this on the bottom of the fuel dipstick, lower the stick in the tank, bring it up and if water is present the paste turns red.  Wipe the residue off when done.  My understanding is that the diesel bug microbe lives in the water layer using the oxygen contained in the water to survive.  Whether true or not this is an inexpensive method to check for water, a small tube is $7.50 and should last for years.  This or similar products are available on Amazon and other sites.  KolorKut website information is below:

·         For testing for the presence of water at the bottom of fuel storage tanks.

·         Suitable only for use with Petrol, Diesel, Kerosene, Gas Oil, Heating Oil, Heavy Oil, and Lubricating Oil

·         Applied to a rod / length of string with bottom weight, the brown paste changes colour to brilliant red where it comes into contact with water, giving you a visual indication as to the depth of the water present. The water can then be pumped out, and the test repeated until there is insufficient water to pump, at which point one of our Water-Seekers or Oilybits Water Absorbing Polymer can be used to absorb the last of it.

·         No official expiry date, will keep best when stored between 31F and 115F

They also have other products for gauging miscible water in various fuels and how deep the water is in the tanks.   www.kolorkut.co.uk


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Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Re: Volvo warning

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

The Volvo Service Bulletin was received from an extremely helpful dealer, Fordham Marine, Jacksonville, FL  904.743.2140.  The other information I came across was when I had the same problem as Paul.  I was trying to find a method to determine what was wrong without having to pay a mechanic 2 1/2 hours travel time to come to the boat to diagnose then make a second trip back with the parts.  It seemed very inefficient and costly.  I heard about the OEM mode wanted to learn how to access it.  Wish I had all the codes but have not found a way to get them.  They do vary slightly between different engine models.
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Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Re: Cleaning the fuel tank

Patrick McAneny
 

Cam, I had not thought about a shopvac ,I can reduce the hose down to a 3/4" piece of pvc tube. 
Thanks,
Pat
SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: CAM WEATHERSTON <camweatherston@...>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Mar 10, 2020 10:23 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Cleaning the fuel tank

Hello,  we had to clean our fuel tank on our Tayana 37 and had pumped out most of the fuel. The grunge at the bottom was sucked out using a shopvac. Worked like a charm. Then spayed the inside with brake cleaning fluid....worked great.  Not a fun job....good luck with it.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 1:40 PM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
On a related note.  

I'm looking for the right material to replace the gaskets on the inspection ports.  Diesel is pretty hard on most gaskets.  I've tried two different "rubber" materials and have not been happy with either of them.  The second one was Nitrile, grade 60A. It was specifically recommended by the technical guy at Rubber-Cal for being best for deisel resistance, but it has deteriorate after a year or so.

Has anyone found a better product? 

Thanks and regards, Daniel Carlson on sv BeBe, SM#387




On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 2:24 PM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have never cleaned a fuel tank and was wondering how one goes about it, I only now have about 10 gallons in the tank. Do you install a pump hose on the end of a length of 1/2 pcv tube and just move it around the bottom of the tank and see what comes out. Any suggestion on what type of pump.
Thanks,
Pat
SM#123

Re: Hatch handle seat (corners) for Goiot tradition series

Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
 

Hi Justin, thanks for the word of warning. I had my doubts about them just looking at their online site... needing to email or phone part numbers and waiting just to find out what things cost? Then finding very high prices, not even looking at shipping. I'm hoping Charles can sort me out with some CNC work.

Cheers,
Mike Longcor
SV Trilogy - SM23
Opua, NZ

Re: Hatch handle seat (corners) for Goiot tradition series

Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
 

Hi Charles,

That is awesome, nice work!

I might have to sketch the pieces I need because all of them are currently in use on my boat. Might need a couple other parts too, if possible. Curious how long does the process usually take from receiving sketch to product? Are you in USA?

I'll have a go at making up a detailed sketch for the corner seat and get back to you very soon.

Cheers,
Mike Longcor
SV Trilogy - SM23
Opua, NZ

Re: Circumnavigation

CARINA HAMMARLUND
 

Congratulations, what a fantastic achievement!
You are now in a small and exclusive group of people that can call themselves - circumnavigator.
well done 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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Carina
SV Ultimo
Amel 54 No 165

New Zealand surveyor

Nick Fowle
 

Hi, would anyone be able to recommend a surveyor down in N Island New Zealand please? 


ideally someone who has experience of Super Maramu if possible ? 


many thanks 

Re: Cleaning the fuel tank

CAM WEATHERSTON
 

Hello,  we had to clean our fuel tank on our Tayana 37 and had pumped out most of the fuel. The grunge at the bottom was sucked out using a shopvac. Worked like a charm. Then spayed the inside with brake cleaning fluid....worked great.  Not a fun job....good luck with it.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 1:40 PM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
On a related note.  

I'm looking for the right material to replace the gaskets on the inspection ports.  Diesel is pretty hard on most gaskets.  I've tried two different "rubber" materials and have not been happy with either of them.  The second one was Nitrile, grade 60A. It was specifically recommended by the technical guy at Rubber-Cal for being best for deisel resistance, but it has deteriorate after a year or so.

Has anyone found a better product? 

Thanks and regards, Daniel Carlson on sv BeBe, SM#387




On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 2:24 PM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have never cleaned a fuel tank and was wondering how one goes about it, I only now have about 10 gallons in the tank. Do you install a pump hose on the end of a length of 1/2 pcv tube and just move it around the bottom of the tank and see what comes out. Any suggestion on what type of pump.
Thanks,
Pat
SM#123

Re: Volvo warning

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Marc


Thanks for sharing these information. Great information, such Service Bulletin’s are vital. 

Question: I have seen these Volvo Penta Service  Bulletin“ once at the Volvo dealer. Are these public available from Volvo on request or by download?

- Or how you got those Service bulletins? 


Thanks for giving me one more item for the maintenance list ;-) 

Happy Sailing


Ruedi Waldispuehl
WASABI A54. #55

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Datum: Dienstag, 10. März 2020 um 19:29
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo warning

I had the same fault code with the last digit being "0".  I was able to lube and free up the actuator.  It could also indicate a bad sensor or another turbo related issue.  Take a look at the attached and be sure to read the comments that I added at the time.  Good luck with the repair.
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Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Re: In mast Furler - A simple precaution for the (occasionally) inattentive skipper

Matt Salatino
 

Stay well!

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Mar 10, 2020, at 5:07 PM, PAOLO CUNEO <pc43ge@...> wrote:

Thanks  to all Amelians for their welcome and the interest for my suggestion.
 I cannot reach Whisper at the moment ( even if myself, my house, my business and my Amel are all located in Genoa) due the severe restrictions to movement introduced by the government in Italy following to the violent outbreak of Covid-19 Coronavirus in the  Country.
As soon as possible I will follow with some drawings and detail
Fair winds

Paolo Cuneo
SM#454 Whisper 
now quarantined (skipper included) in Genoa



Re: In mast Furler - A simple precaution for the (occasionally) inattentive skipper

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank's Paolo
I have thought about a similar solution myself. What material is it made of? Not plexiglas or Macralon I assume as they are not thermoplastic and not possible to bend by heat. I guess it might be made of a Polystyren sheet? I'm now inspired to try to make one myself 
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 wintering in Lagos, Portugal sykerpa.com

Re: Volvo warning

Matt Salatino
 

There is an excellent cleaner for burned on deposits that would work great for this application. It is a gun cleaning product called “Shooter’s Lube”.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Thanks Mark. It’s pretty much what I did except I used WD40 and did not spray at the same time as moving the arm up and down – maybe I should try that. Maybe I should use Corrosion X instead?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark & Debbie Mueller
Sent: 10 March 2020 14:29
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo warning

 

I had the same fault code with the last digit being "0".  I was able to lube and free up the actuator.  It could also indicate a bad sensor or another turbo related issue.  Take a look at the attached and be sure to read the comments that I added at the time.  Good luck with the repair.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: In mast Furler - A simple precaution for the (occasionally) inattentive skipper

PAOLO CUNEO
 

Thanks  to all Amelians for their welcome and the interest for my suggestion.
 I cannot reach Whisper at the moment ( even if myself, my house, my business and my Amel are all located in Genoa) due the severe restrictions to movement introduced by the government in Italy following to the violent outbreak of Covid-19 Coronavirus in the  Country.
As soon as possible I will follow with some drawings and detail
Fair winds

Paolo Cuneo
SM#454 Whisper 
now quarantined (skipper included) in Genoa



Re: Cleaning the fuel tank

Dan Carlson
 

On a related note.  

I'm looking for the right material to replace the gaskets on the inspection ports.  Diesel is pretty hard on most gaskets.  I've tried two different "rubber" materials and have not been happy with either of them.  The second one was Nitrile, grade 60A. It was specifically recommended by the technical guy at Rubber-Cal for being best for deisel resistance, but it has deteriorate after a year or so.

Has anyone found a better product? 

Thanks and regards, Daniel Carlson on sv BeBe, SM#387




On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 2:24 PM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have never cleaned a fuel tank and was wondering how one goes about it, I only now have about 10 gallons in the tank. Do you install a pump hose on the end of a length of 1/2 pcv tube and just move it around the bottom of the tank and see what comes out. Any suggestion on what type of pump.
Thanks,
Pat
SM#123

Re: Cleaning the fuel tank

Paul Osterberg
 

Pat!
we cleaned our tank by opening the inspection hatch and pumped out the rest with a hand pump same as on our outboard tank. We used a fuel hose with inner diameter the same as the outer diameter on the hose with the hand pump to make it reach down the tank. I had a length of Aluminium tube that fitted well into the fuel hose so it became very easy to position the end at the lowest point I got out most of the fuel less than half a liter left then I toke a broom with a cloth and cleaned the tank, looked as new after that. total time a few hours.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259

Re: Volvo warning

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks for sharing Mark. One more item added to list of maintenance.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark & Debbie Mueller via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:29 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo warning

 

I had the same fault code with the last digit being "0".  I was able to lube and free up the actuator.  It could also indicate a bad sensor or another turbo related issue.  Take a look at the attached and be sure to read the comments that I added at the time.  Good luck with the repair.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Re: Cleaning the fuel tank

Patrick McAneny
 

Eric, There is at least one port on the top of the tank. It has never been cleaned, and since there is only a few gallons in the tank I thought it was a good time . I am not interested in polishing or saving the fuel ,just want to suck out any water or sludge that may be in the tank. My filters have also be pretty clean when changed and I have never at fuel issues,but it seems like a good preventive exercise.
Another issue is my filter is about a foot above the bottom of the tank, so if my fuel level is below a foot and I change my filter, fuel will not fill the filter, and if I fill the filter, it simply flows back to the tank, so I am going to lower the filter as much as possible . I was wondering if most filters are installed as low as possible. If I ran out of fuel, I would have to put in probably forty gallons or more to get fuel up to my filter. I suppose a inline pump would solve this as well.
Thanks,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Mar 10, 2020 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Cleaning the fuel tank

Hi Pat,
Do you have inspection ports on your tank?
Why do you think you need to clean your tank?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 2:24 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Cleaning the fuel tank
 
I have never cleaned a fuel tank and was wondering how one goes about it, I only now have about 10 gallons in the tank. Do you install a pump hose on the end of a length of 1/2 pcv tube and just move it around the bottom of the tank and see what comes out. Any suggestion on what type of pump.
Thanks,
Pat
SM#123

Re: Cleaning the fuel tank

eric freedman
 

Hi Pat,

Do you have inspection ports on your tank?

Why do you think you need to clean your tank?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 2:24 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Cleaning the fuel tank

 

I have never cleaned a fuel tank and was wondering how one goes about it, I only now have about 10 gallons in the tank. Do you install a pump hose on the end of a length of 1/2 pcv tube and just move it around the bottom of the tank and see what comes out. Any suggestion on what type of pump.
Thanks,
Pat
SM#123

Re: Volvo warning

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Thanks Mark. It’s pretty much what I did except I used WD40 and did not spray at the same time as moving the arm up and down – maybe I should try that. Maybe I should use Corrosion X instead?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark & Debbie Mueller
Sent: 10 March 2020 14:29
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo warning

 

I had the same fault code with the last digit being "0".  I was able to lube and free up the actuator.  It could also indicate a bad sensor or another turbo related issue.  Take a look at the attached and be sure to read the comments that I added at the time.  Good luck with the repair.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Cleaning the fuel tank

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

I just had mine professionally cleaned – it cost USD500 and took several hours with some pretty sophisticated looking gear, and involved negotiating baffles in the tank. Good luck!

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io
Sent: 10 March 2020 14:24
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Cleaning the fuel tank

 

I have never cleaned a fuel tank and was wondering how one goes about it, I only now have about 10 gallons in the tank. Do you install a pump hose on the end of a length of 1/2 pcv tube and just move it around the bottom of the tank and see what comes out. Any suggestion on what type of pump.
Thanks,
Pat
SM#123


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98