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Re: Change of black water valve Amel 54

Brent Cameron
 

Unfortunately, I’ve had way too much experience with this task and I have found that better than pliers/spanners, or even chain wrenches, are the cheapie “oil filter” type rubber belt wrenches as they don’t mar up the fitting and the small amount of give that they have actually seems to help loosen the joint.  Best of all, they fit really easily into very tight spaces.  I have bought quite a few different types of wrenches (from huge channel lock spanners, to pipe wrenches to chain wrenches over the years but to get into some really tight spaces and these are the ones I keep in my portable plumbing toolbox now as I haven’t found big nuts/valves that I couldn’t loosen with them.  The price is right too ($5).  They also work well for oil filters!  

https://www.harborfreight.com/rubber-strap-wrench-set-2-pc-69373.html

I have had a few fittings that I really had to jump on to get off, and in those instances (before I thought to try these), I used a chain version of these but find that they don’t fit into as tight spaces, so I leave them on the wall rack in my workshop.  
https://www.princessauto.com/en/chain-oil-filter-wrench/product/PA0008248353

Brent

On Apr 7, 2021, 7:31 AM -0400, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...>, wrote:

Hi Alain,

Yes I do. Not a plesant memory I can say. You will need to find a tool (pliers/spanner) that can give you some leverage to turn the old valve off. I removed the lever first to use the remaining stub to get some grip on the old valve. Long arms are very welcome. And you will get bruises that are somewhat painfull.
I used Locktite Thread sealant to mount the new one. The tread is a straight thread. Try to get a bronze valve if you can. That can be very hard as not many shops sell them.

Just expect a struggle getting the old one off. You may be lucky and get it off more easy then I did. Do not forget to clean the threads with a wire-brush before putting on the new one.


Good luck!

Arno Luijten,
SV Luna,
A54-121


--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


Re: Another secret question...

Brian Gifford
 

Is there a similar spot on the Maramu?
I asked the previous owner of my boat but they didn't know. I've been on the hunt for a good spot but I haven't found one yet.

BrianG701@...
--
Brian Gifford
Maramu #243
"Jamesby"
Windward/ Leeward Is.


Re: Best Video projector for SMs

Robert Linley
 

Try a Mirroir projector. I use mine at home, on patio and on boat. Easy set up and will stream from PC, ipad or stick. 




On Apr 7, 2021, at 8:05 AM, Jose Venegas via groups.io <josegvenegas@...> wrote:

We installed an Epson proyector in that spot that my son gave us as a present
The image is excellent and fills a large  screen hanging at the level of back rest of the couch
We connected the sound to a Bose system and it feels like a movie theater
If I was starting from scratch I would find a proyector  that gave a smaller image but it was a present and it is great to watch movies






Re: Best Video projector for SMs

Jose Venegas
 

We installed an Epson proyector in that spot that my son gave us as a present
The image is excellent and fills a large screen hanging at the level of back rest of the couch
We connected the sound to a Bose system and it feels like a movie theater
If I was starting from scratch I would find a proyector that gave a smaller image but it was a present and it is great to watch movies


Re: Change of black water valve Amel 54

Alain Durante
 

Bonjour Arno,

 

Thank you very much for your reply and indeed not so much space to work.

 

Anyway, the boat is going to be on the yard from next week so I will let you know my progress 😊

 

What about a stainless valve instead of bronze knowing that most of the time the valve in not in the water?

 

Also, I need to change the gasket of the bow thruster tube and read some people had difficulty to remove the  tube from the electric motor. Did you already made such maintenance?

 

Cordialement,

 

Alain Durante

 

A54 – 21

Meige

 

 

De : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> De la part de Arno Luijten via groups.io
Envoyé : mercredi 7 avril 2021 13:31
À : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Objet : Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Change of black water valve Amel 54

 

Hi Alain,

Yes I do. Not a plesant memory I can say. You will need to find a tool (pliers/spanner) that can give you some leverage to turn the old valve off. I removed the lever first to use the remaining stub to get some grip on the old valve. Long arms are very welcome. And you will get bruises that are somewhat painfull.
I used Locktite Thread sealant to mount the new one. The tread is a straight thread. Try to get a bronze valve if you can. That can be very hard as not many shops sell them. 

Just expect a struggle getting the old one off. You may be lucky and get it off more easy then I did. Do not forget to clean the threads with a wire-brush before putting on the new one. 


Good luck!

Arno Luijten,
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Change of black water valve Amel 54

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Alain,

Yes I do. Not a plesant memory I can say. You will need to find a tool (pliers/spanner) that can give you some leverage to turn the old valve off. I removed the lever first to use the remaining stub to get some grip on the old valve. Long arms are very welcome. And you will get bruises that are somewhat painfull.
I used Locktite Thread sealant to mount the new one. The tread is a straight thread. Try to get a bronze valve if you can. That can be very hard as not many shops sell them. 

Just expect a struggle getting the old one off. You may be lucky and get it off more easy then I did. Do not forget to clean the threads with a wire-brush before putting on the new one. 


Good luck!

Arno Luijten,
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Fuel Bladders

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hi Eric

Yes, indeed your fixed tank idea is a far better idea, and I was aware of it from you before we set off around the world but too late for us to have enough time to get this done before leaving.

With our system, we always emptied the cans from the liferaft locker immediately as soon as we had created enough space in the main tank and whenever we had suitably calm conditions to do so to ensure the best possible stability. This was never a problem and we became quite skilled at doing so without spilling even a drop of fuel ... however ... of course, a nice easy electric pump system from your fixed tanks would be so much nicer to have.

The one possible advantage of our jerry can system (for us) though was that we very seldom ever trusted filling up directly from the fuel stations into our main tank during our circumnavigation as we always filtered all fuel first, unless in some French or UK territories, and so mostly did so via jerry cans anyway. Certainly, most of our fuel was sourced from normal "on-land" motor vehicle fuel stations via Jerry Can and Dinghy travel and so we would still have needed to store 10 empty cans somewhere anyway with your system.

Colin Streeter
ex SM2K - Island Pearl II
Brisbane 



On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 8:31 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Colin,

Instead of dealing with 9 jerry cans , why not have a pair of tanks fitted to the locker as we have done .

We use an electric pump to empty the tanks. That is much easier than having to deal with a jerry can in rolling sea. The reason I had 2 tanks fitted is that

you cannot fit one big 80-gallon tank through the hatch. Also, each tank is separate. In case of a major leak or contamination you will still have 80 gallons of good fuel.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Sm 376 Kimberlite

 



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Fuel Bladders

eric freedman
 

Hi Colin,

Instead of dealing with 9 jerry cans , why not have a pair of tanks fitted to the locker as we have done .

We use an electric pump to empty the tanks. That is much easier than having to deal with a jerry can in rolling sea. The reason I had 2 tanks fitted is that

you cannot fit one big 80-gallon tank through the hatch. Also, each tank is separate. In case of a major leak or contamination you will still have 80 gallons of good fuel.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Sm 376 Kimberlite

 

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Best Video projector for SMs

Brian Riggs
 
Edited

Hello Amel SM 2000 Owners,

Since I am only an Amel hopeful in the next few short years, I almost never post. I do however read everything you post.

While I am still bound to the land, I'm interested in purchasing a video projector that will work for both the house and the yacht. In the SM2000, there is a small storage area directly above the two drawers at the center of the dinette port side where the projector could me placed to aim at a retractable screen hung over the settee to starboard. I My questen are as follows:

1. What is the length, height and depth of the little storage area above the two drawers above and port of the dinette?
2. As owners, what are your thoughts about this? Have you found other solutions better than this plan? (I specifically don't want to mount a television to the bulkhead wall.)

I appreciate any feedback you may have.

Very respectfully,
Brian K. Riggs
Future Amel Owner


Re: Fuel Bladders

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Everyone will have different reasons for carrying so much fuel, and of course, this could be very different now due to some exceptional COVID related issues (for example, a close friend of ours recently had to sail directly across the Pacific all the way from Panama to Bundaberg, Australia) ....but for those just setting off and/or preparing to circumnavigate in an Amel SM, 54 or 55, rest assured that you will mostly find that with both your generous main tank fuel capacity, plus say 9 x 23L jerry cans (in our case all in the life-raft locker of the SM), you should have much more fuel than you would need for all the longest legs, even with many mild to windless days, and even with the occasional need potentially to run for many hours at very high revs to get away from the odd suspect pirate "fishing" boats who may try to catch you in certain areas.

We circumnavigated on an Amel SM2000 with the above setup between 2017 and 2020, always with plenty of fuel leftover even on all the longest stretches, with many days of zero to 10kts of wind in the South Atlantic and Pacific, plus in the North Indian Ocean (Thailand to the Maldives leg).

Colin Streeter
ex SM2K Island Pearl II
Brisbane, Australia

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 3:48 AM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

I ask this more out of curiosity than anything else. What are people opinions of fuel bladders for excess diesel on longer passages?

 

I have seen some conversations where owners have bladders atop the aft cabin and lashed to the hand rails. To me, this seems like it would be a lot of weight in the wrong place. How does the fuel not cause a greater angle of heel and, the bigger question,  are the hand-hold railings strong enough to hold the weight of potentially shifting diesel (0.832kg/litre)?

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: cover up holes of instruments

Eloi Bamberg
 

Great job, I will try to get some wood here in France.
thanks,
Eloi


Change of black water valve Amel 54

Alain Durante
 

Hello,

 

Does anyone experienced the change of a black water valve (front toilet) in an Amel 54?

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Cordialement,

 

Alain Durante

A54 / Meige

 

 


Re: Another secret question...

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

I did find a diamond pendant that the wife of the previous owner had lost (and shipped it to her), but it was not in a secret place. I also found a bunch of toys left by their 4 year old. I think I know my SM pretty well after 8 years of ownership, but I was never told of a secret space.  Can someone in the know enlighten me please? Email me at derickgates@...

Derick
Brava
SM2K #400

 


Re: Volvo penta D3 110 I-D

 

Of course. That should have been my first suggestion.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 3:35 PM Hans-Joerg Wildhagen <carpediemsail@...> wrote:
Hi Bill

Thank so much for your help. It was the emergency switch which was not closed. So no full power for the pcu. But still some power like 10,2 Volt from other components 
Unbelievable
Nothing is in the wiring chart from Volvo penta
BR
Hans
SY Wasabi


CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> schrieb am Di., 6. Apr. 2021, 10:10:
The D-3 start cycle is commanded by the Volvo Computer. It is very likely that you need a Volvo mechanic with Volvo diagnostic software loaded on his laptop to plug into the computer. 

You can get some D3 Fault Codes by following this (Snippet from a page from my Amel Book) and using this file from my Yacht School Amel Book Supplements:
Snippet from my book:

image.png
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 9:24 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

I am not very familiar with Volvo but Yanmar have a fuse in the panel. Is the starter getting getting voltage when the key is turned to crank?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hans-Joerg Wildhagen
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 11:15 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo penta D3 110 I-D

 

Hi Mark

Thanks for the response.

Hope you and your wife are well in Tahiti.

The engine doesn't crank.

I turn the key to position 1.

The leds flashing around and the ventilator starts.

When all LEDs are out I turn the key to position 3 and nothing is happen. The ventilator stopps too.

BR Hans

 

Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> schrieb am Mo., 5. Apr. 2021, 15:54:

Hans,

 

When you say it doesn’t start, can you be more specific. It doesn’t crank or it cranks and will not fire?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hans-Joerg Wildhagen
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:52 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo penta D3 110 I-D

 

Hello, looking for some troubleshooting tips for my Volvo penta on my 55#13

 

After replacing the starter battery the engine doesn't start. May be my last try to start the engine with the old starter battery was damaging the pcu. I measure at pin B32 only 10.5 Volt. All the relays and fuses are ok.

 

In the engine room I find a box 12 and 24 Volt with Murphy Relais. I think this is for the two alternators.

 

Any help is very much appreciated.

 

Hans

SY Wasabi

Isla Bastimentos


Re: Volvo penta D3 110 I-D

Hans-Joerg Wildhagen
 

Hi Bill

Thank so much for your help. It was the emergency switch which was not closed. So no full power for the pcu. But still some power like 10,2 Volt from other components 
Unbelievable
Nothing is in the wiring chart from Volvo penta
BR
Hans
SY Wasabi


CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> schrieb am Di., 6. Apr. 2021, 10:10:

The D-3 start cycle is commanded by the Volvo Computer. It is very likely that you need a Volvo mechanic with Volvo diagnostic software loaded on his laptop to plug into the computer. 

You can get some D3 Fault Codes by following this (Snippet from a page from my Amel Book) and using this file from my Yacht School Amel Book Supplements:
Snippet from my book:

image.png
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 9:24 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

I am not very familiar with Volvo but Yanmar have a fuse in the panel. Is the starter getting getting voltage when the key is turned to crank?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hans-Joerg Wildhagen
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 11:15 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo penta D3 110 I-D

 

Hi Mark

Thanks for the response.

Hope you and your wife are well in Tahiti.

The engine doesn't crank.

I turn the key to position 1.

The leds flashing around and the ventilator starts.

When all LEDs are out I turn the key to position 3 and nothing is happen. The ventilator stopps too.

BR Hans

 

Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> schrieb am Mo., 5. Apr. 2021, 15:54:

Hans,

 

When you say it doesn’t start, can you be more specific. It doesn’t crank or it cranks and will not fire?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hans-Joerg Wildhagen
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:52 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo penta D3 110 I-D

 

Hello, looking for some troubleshooting tips for my Volvo penta on my 55#13

 

After replacing the starter battery the engine doesn't start. May be my last try to start the engine with the old starter battery was damaging the pcu. I measure at pin B32 only 10.5 Volt. All the relays and fuses are ok.

 

In the engine room I find a box 12 and 24 Volt with Murphy Relais. I think this is for the two alternators.

 

Any help is very much appreciated.

 

Hans

SY Wasabi

Isla Bastimentos


Re: cover up holes of instruments

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Matt,

 

Sourcing the wood is not difficult. African Mahogany is used in furniture building and by wood hobbyists. There are online stores such as https://www.woodworkerssource.com/ or retail outlets like https://www.woodcraft.com/

 

I had difficulty finding it in the thickness I wanted. Since I do not own a planer, I wanted it to be as close as possible to the desired thickness: 3/8” or 10mm. I found that most of the managers at the wood hobby shops are die-hard woodworkers. For a small fee, one offered to plane the plank I purchased to the thickness.

 

For the coloring, it is trial and error. If you mess up, no big deal, give it a good sand and try again. Best to have a couple of waste pieces to get the technique down. Here are the products I used:

 

 

You will need to feather the stain. Add dark streaks first (red mahogany) to match the Amel grain, and wipe away excess quickly. Then, use a gold or pecan to bring out the lighter side. Blend stains if needed.  Finish with semi-gloss polyurethane.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt & Michelle Day
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 7:49 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] cover up holes of instruments

 

Mark,

You have inspired me.  My panels look like Swiss cheese right now, while I figure out a solution.  

What was your process for stain matching?
Did you source your African Mahogany in the US? Source?

Thank you for the sharing.  Beautiful work.

Matt
SV Talia SM#208


Re: cover up holes of instruments

Matt & Michelle Day, SM#208 SV Talia
 

Mark,

You have inspired me.  My panels look like Swiss cheese right now, while I figure out a solution.  

What was your process for stain matching?
Did you source your African Mahogany in the US? Source?

Thank you for the sharing.  Beautiful work.

Matt
SV Talia SM#208


Re: cover up holes of instruments

Mark Erdos
 

Matt,

 

That looks really nice!

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt & Michelle Day
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 12:27 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] cover up holes of instruments

 

Lovely job!

We are in the middle of doing the same refit.

Looked at several different materials and settled on King Starboard.  You can get just about any color, size and thickness you want. 

We went with black, intentionally trying to contrast with the original helm color.  The thickness used was 3/8 inch.  The finish is matte, so we minimize glare.  The material is stable and can be worked with standard work working tools.

Matt
Talia SM#208   


Re: cover up holes of instruments

Mark Erdos
 

Eloi,

 

For the nav station, I made some duplicate drawer fronts out of African Mahogany and stained them to match. I used these to cover the old holes and then made new cuts as needed. I matched the size and color of the drawer panel for constituency, but I guess an size would do.

 

Perfect Match!!!

 

This is how the SSB looks. The old GPS hole was too big, so I made a panel. Then, I cut out the new panel per the SSB specs.

 

DSCF0591.JPG

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eloi Bamberg
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 6:21 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] cover up holes of instruments

 

Thanks for your ideas, both solutions look great.  Any idea for the interior (above the chart table)?

Eloi


Re: cover up holes of instruments

Eloi Bamberg
 

Thanks for your ideas, both solutions look great.  Any idea for the interior (above the chart table)?

Eloi

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