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Re: AMEL 54 main furler

 

First check the simple things:

I assume you are having an issue with the furling motor/gearbox and not the outhaul motor/gearbox.

Loosen the 4 bolts on the furling motor/gearbox, lower the unit enough to disengage the main foil fr the motor/gearbox, then test the manual furler with a winch handle. If it works, you've eliminated a sail jam. Next try the furler motor while disconnected. Take a rubber mallet a rap the gearbox sharply. If either of these work, call Willie and tell him you probably need new brushes in the motor. You may have spares... check my Amel Book for changing brushes. 

It is possible that the large solenoid has failed, but I have yet to actually see this happen. 

Get back to me. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Wed, May 1, 2019, 5:51 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
Was on my way to TANNA VANUATU and can NOT unfurl the main sail. It will furl but NOT unfurl.
The switch in the cockpit is good.   Any suggestions?

Have returned to NOUMEA as I need to have this working before crossing to VANUATU

Thanks.

Teun BAAS

AMELIT  A54  2009
NOUMEA, NEW CALEDONIA 


Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k

Joerg Esdorn
 

I have had very good experiences with my Superwind half way up the mizzen mast.  It substantially contributes to balancing the power needs on Kincsem on most days without anyone noticing it is there.  My 400 W solar usually contributes more here in the Med, and when offshore, my Watt & Sea blows them both away, but in my view it’s all about alternative sources.  Wind is great at anchor particularly in the Aegean and sailing on all courses other than a broad reach or downwind.   

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53
Kincsem



AMEL 54 main furler

Teun BAAS
 

Was on my way to TANNA VANUATU and can NOT unfurl the main sail. It will furl but NOT unfurl.
The switch in the cockpit is good.   Any suggestions?

Have returned to NOUMEA as I need to have this working before crossing to VANUATU

Thanks.

Teun BAAS

AMELIT  A54  2009
NOUMEA, NEW CALEDONIA 


Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k

David Vogel
 

Greetings all,

 

I have a top-of-mizzen Rutland 1200, installed 2018, cost to purchase-and-install ~$2,200-. The running count for the wind-gen since it was last reset 920 hours ago Arriving on-anchor, La Playita, Panama), is 547Ah contributed to battery charge; =~ 0.6Ah per hour, =~ 15W average per.hour contribution.  Since last reset, we have been in a typical steady wind, but not-so-windy location.  Previously, when in windy locations (meaning, wind in general blowing always 18 knots, but often 20-30), we were seeing easily double, sometimes triple this, on-average.

 

These overall production figures are somewhat BELOW what would otherwise be seen in a stand-alone wind-gen set-up (without solar), because at mid-day +/-2.5H when your solar cells pumping it in, or when the batteries are sensed as fully charged, the wind-gen switches off.

 

Also, when you are on genset (or motoring), sometimes the wind-gen senses this and shuts down also.

 

But when the wind-turbine is spinning, the output is within 5% of the manufacturers curve (case: windy at night, no solar in competition, for example).

 

Overall, with the solar and wind-gen, my need to run the genset whilst on anchor is reduced to about 50% of what is was before (no solar or wind).  On longer offshore passages, we have only a few days here and there, so not really able to say.  So I am still planning fuel burn for offshore work on the pre-wind/solar basis of 2 x 1.5 hour genset runs per day.  I am happy with ‘free’ power from the shaft gen – enough to cover the NAV Station – when STW >7 knots.  I switch the shaft-gen off if I really need to squeeze for speed, as I estimate that the shaft-gen pulls the STW down by between 0.5 and 1.0 knot. For really long-distance work (say, >3,000nm), that 1knot pull-down relates to an extra 2 days passage-time.  There is always a trade-off.

 

I am glad to have the redundancy provided by solar and wind in combination, although this is only partial at best.

 

We are not at this time considering a second wind-gen.  We are thinking to increase the solar to 800-1,200 watts.  The panels themselves will pay for themselves over time, but the capital expense of the arch is harder to reconcile.

 

Cheers,

 

David

SM#396, Perigee

Pacific-bound


Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k

JOHN HAYES
 

.......am sure your right Bill unless you live in the roaring 40’s and do most of your sailing in higher latitudes!!  
The Rutland wind mill having sailed from the Med to NZ lost its feathers in gusts of 45 to 55 knots off Kaikoura on the west coast of the South Island. It was replaced with a silent wind generator which, while expensive, has been excellent at maintaining power levels in the batteries and has a built in breaking system

John Hayes
NGA Waka sn41
Wellington 




On 1/05/2019, at 9:34 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

I would save your money on the wind. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 9:14 PM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I had an 80A charger from the time I bought Kristy and it was plenty.  I’ve added Solar since then and rarely run the charger for more than 45min per day.  Still thinking about a wind generator at the top of the mizzen, but haven’t pulled the trigger on that yet.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Apr 29, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> wrote:

Kent, why did you choose the 80/24 vs. the 100/24? 

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Exumas, Bahamas

On Apr 28, 2019, at 9:40 PM, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

I have had the Skylla 80/24 for 3 years now for my 520AHr bank of deep cycle lead-acid batteries.  So far no problems whatsoever.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 28, 2019, at 7:16 PM, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

We have had a Victron Skylla 100/24 on Elyse since the old Dolphins died 5 years ago. Very good experience, no problems at all. Very flexible and versatile charger, mode selectable for all types of batteries. We have 660Ah of 6V AGM batteries in 3 banks of 4 with balancers, works very well.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k

Mark Erdos
 

Kent,

 

I have to agree with Bill. We have a wind generator, it came with the boat when we purchased it and then broke. We replaced it with a clone but probably should have saved the money for something else that hasn’t broken yet.

 

If the wind is blowing 20-25 knots consistently it is worth it. But how often does this happen? At this wind speed it will put out about 5 amps per hour and help during the night when solar panels are sleeping. It is just enough that I do not have to run the genset in the morning to top off the batteries until the solar kicks in (we are running all three ref/frz).

 

You can do the math for the number of days you spend per year cruising, the number of days you will have ample wind and compare to the cost and wear on the genset running we you need the extra omph. My guess is you will find it is not feasible.

 

Right now we have winds of 5-10 knots and it is the same for the rest of this week. We are on the hook and the wind generator is totally useless.

 

If I had to do things over, I would add more solar and increase the size of the battery bank

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - San Blas Islands, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 5:35 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] 100 amp charger on sm2k

 

I would save your money on the wind. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 9:14 PM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I had an 80A charger from the time I bought Kristy and it was plenty.  I’ve added Solar since then and rarely run the charger for more than 45min per day.  Still thinking about a wind generator at the top of the mizzen, but haven’t pulled the trigger on that yet.

Kent Robertson

S/V Kristy

SM243


On Apr 29, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> wrote:

Kent, why did you choose the 80/24 vs. the 100/24? 

Ian & Margaret

S/V Loca Lola II 

SM153

Exumas, Bahamas


On Apr 28, 2019, at 9:40 PM, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

I have had the Skylla 80/24 for 3 years now for my 520AHr bank of deep cycle lead-acid batteries.  So far no problems whatsoever.

Kent

SM 243

Kristy

Kent Robertson

S/V Kristy

USA cell: 828-234-6819


On Apr 28, 2019, at 7:16 PM, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

We have had a Victron Skylla 100/24 on Elyse since the old Dolphins died 5 years ago. Very good experience, no problems at all. Very flexible and versatile charger, mode selectable for all types of batteries. We have 660Ah of 6V AGM batteries in 3 banks of 4 with balancers, works very well.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k

 

I would save your money on the wind. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 9:14 PM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I had an 80A charger from the time I bought Kristy and it was plenty.  I’ve added Solar since then and rarely run the charger for more than 45min per day.  Still thinking about a wind generator at the top of the mizzen, but haven’t pulled the trigger on that yet.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Apr 29, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> wrote:

Kent, why did you choose the 80/24 vs. the 100/24? 

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Exumas, Bahamas

On Apr 28, 2019, at 9:40 PM, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

I have had the Skylla 80/24 for 3 years now for my 520AHr bank of deep cycle lead-acid batteries.  So far no problems whatsoever.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 28, 2019, at 7:16 PM, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

We have had a Victron Skylla 100/24 on Elyse since the old Dolphins died 5 years ago. Very good experience, no problems at all. Very flexible and versatile charger, mode selectable for all types of batteries. We have 660Ah of 6V AGM batteries in 3 banks of 4 with balancers, works very well.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k

karkauai
 

I had an 80A charger from the time I bought Kristy and it was plenty.  I’ve added Solar since then and rarely run the charger for more than 45min per day.  Still thinking about a wind generator at the top of the mizzen, but haven’t pulled the trigger on that yet.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Apr 29, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> wrote:

Kent, why did you choose the 80/24 vs. the 100/24? 

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Exumas, Bahamas

On Apr 28, 2019, at 9:40 PM, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

I have had the Skylla 80/24 for 3 years now for my 520AHr bank of deep cycle lead-acid batteries.  So far no problems whatsoever.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 28, 2019, at 7:16 PM, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

We have had a Victron Skylla 100/24 on Elyse since the old Dolphins died 5 years ago. Very good experience, no problems at all. Very flexible and versatile charger, mode selectable for all types of batteries. We have 660Ah of 6V AGM batteries in 3 banks of 4 with balancers, works very well.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Insurance updates.

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Well done. But wait to see the detail before you open the champagne.

Danny

SS 299

Ocean pearl

On 01 May 2019 at 03:13 "Alexandre Uster von Baar via Groups.Io" <uster@...> wrote:



Back in December Helvetia (subscribed through DeLassee Insurance) made a better (still very unfair) offer, which my french lawyers pressed me to accept, but it came with a special clause or exemption that would completely exonerate Helvetia from anything now on…

I was a bit stunned my lawyers did not warn me that this meant that “I” would be responsible for dealing with “the rest” of the stuff (for example the Simpson Bay Marina suing boat owners for damages to the dock).

I said no and wrote one of them that I was questioning which interest they were defending… Mine? The insurance? or theirs?
… and in the case of refuse by the insurance I will seek another lawyer to sue the insurance.

There was a back and forth letters asking for the removal then modification of the clause, lots of delay from the insurance to reply, either the guy was on vacation for 3 weeks or the office was closed for the Holliday, etc. but, phrase differently, still the insurance kept some of the clause, lawyers suggest I would add a hand written note, which the insurance refused yesterday.
So now I was heading to court.

So yesterday I wrote the lawyers that, since the insurance said NO, I was going to hire a different lawyer for the “full amount” (not the unfair offer), plus everything that was always denied even thought written in the contrat such as expertise fee, lawyers fee, etc.

Then today guess what?
While it usually take 30 days for the insurance to reply to any letter, my lawyer email me “the insurance has cracked” with a document to signed without the exemption…

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 2/28/19, Alexandre Uster von Baar via Groups.Io <uster@...> wrote:

Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance updates.
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Date: Thursday, February 28, 2019, 12:56 PM

Over 2 months later, and despite 2 more
letters from my lawyers to ask the settlement clauses to be
notified still nothing.
So today I called Helvetia and said
these clauses were not acceptable, that they should know by
now that I will not let go, that personally I wanted to go
to trial, but my lawyers want to solve the issue
peacefully.
The person said he will contact the
legal department to see about changing the clauses. 
(last time my lawyers ask them, they supposedly were very
busy and needed more time).
Always excuses..
So will see.

Now regarding Pantaneus (reminder: one
of their insured lost control and hit my vessel in Nassau in
July 2014).  They still not have sent the ridiculous
amount they agreed to pay.
Helvetia said that Mr Thomas Mullady
does not reply any of their email.  Helvetia assures
me, they do everything to obtain that payment.
I told them, if in 2014 then you did
not want to hire a lawyer for $20.000 I doubt you will hire
one for less.  They assure me again I would be
reimbursed.

Personally I will NEVER use insurance
again (aside for the required liability).  It is
obvious they are ALL dishonest.
In the pasts, I heard many “horror”
stories, I thought this was exaggerations from upset people,
unfortunately this is all true.

On a side note, the french customs
asked me to pay “this year” (2019) annual fee for the
boat (which they know sunk in 2017), but we solved that.

Sincerely, Alexandre





Re: Insurance updates.

eric freedman
 

Congratulations
Fair Winds
Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alexandre Uster von Baar via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 11:13 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance updates.


Back in December Helvetia (subscribed through DeLassee Insurance) made a better (still very unfair) offer, which my french lawyers pressed me to accept, but it came with a special clause or exemption that would completely exonerate Helvetia from anything now on…

I was a bit stunned my lawyers did not warn me that this meant that “I” would be responsible for dealing with “the rest” of the stuff (for example the Simpson Bay Marina suing boat owners for damages to the dock).

I said no and wrote one of them that I was questioning which interest they were defending… Mine? The insurance? or theirs?
… and in the case of refuse by the insurance I will seek another lawyer to sue the insurance.

There was a back and forth letters asking for the removal then modification of the clause, lots of delay from the insurance to reply, either the guy was on vacation for 3 weeks or the office was closed for the Holliday, etc. but, phrase differently, still the insurance kept some of the clause, lawyers suggest I would add a hand written note, which the insurance refused yesterday.
So now I was heading to court.

So yesterday I wrote the lawyers that, since the insurance said NO, I was going to hire a different lawyer for the “full amount” (not the unfair offer), plus everything that was always denied even thought written in the contrat such as expertise fee, lawyers fee, etc.

Then today guess what?
While it usually take 30 days for the insurance to reply to any letter, my lawyer email me “the insurance has cracked” with a document to signed without the exemption…

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 2/28/19, Alexandre Uster von Baar via Groups.Io <uster=rocketmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance updates.
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Date: Thursday, February 28, 2019, 12:56 PM

Over 2 months later, and despite 2 more
letters from my lawyers to ask the settlement clauses to be
notified still nothing.
So today I called Helvetia and said
these clauses were not acceptable, that they should know by
now that I will not let go, that personally I wanted to go
to trial, but my lawyers want to solve the issue
peacefully.
The person said he will contact the
legal department to see about changing the clauses.
(last time my lawyers ask them, they supposedly were very
busy and needed more time).
Always excuses..
So will see.

Now regarding Pantaneus (reminder: one
of their insured lost control and hit my vessel in Nassau in
July 2014). They still not have sent the ridiculous
amount they agreed to pay.
Helvetia said that Mr Thomas Mullady
does not reply any of their email. Helvetia assures
me, they do everything to obtain that payment.
I told them, if in 2014 then you did
not want to hire a lawyer for $20.000 I doubt you will hire
one for less. They assure me again I would be
reimbursed.

Personally I will NEVER use insurance
again (aside for the required liability). It is
obvious they are ALL dishonest.
In the pasts, I heard many “horror”
stories, I thought this was exaggerations from upset people,
unfortunately this is all true.

On a side note, the french customs
asked me to pay “this year” (2019) annual fee for the
boat (which they know sunk in 2017), but we solved that.

Sincerely, Alexandre


Re: Insurance updates.

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Back in December Helvetia (subscribed through DeLassee Insurance) made a better (still very unfair) offer, which my french lawyers pressed me to accept, but it came with a special clause or exemption that would completely exonerate Helvetia from anything now on…

I was a bit stunned my lawyers did not warn me that this meant that “I” would be responsible for dealing with “the rest” of the stuff (for example the Simpson Bay Marina suing boat owners for damages to the dock).

I said no and wrote one of them that I was questioning which interest they were defending… Mine? The insurance? or theirs?
… and in the case of refuse by the insurance I will seek another lawyer to sue the insurance.

There was a back and forth letters asking for the removal then modification of the clause, lots of delay from the insurance to reply, either the guy was on vacation for 3 weeks or the office was closed for the Holliday, etc. but, phrase differently, still the insurance kept some of the clause, lawyers suggest I would add a hand written note, which the insurance refused yesterday.
So now I was heading to court.

So yesterday I wrote the lawyers that, since the insurance said NO, I was going to hire a different lawyer for the “full amount” (not the unfair offer), plus everything that was always denied even thought written in the contrat such as expertise fee, lawyers fee, etc.

Then today guess what?
While it usually take 30 days for the insurance to reply to any letter, my lawyer email me “the insurance has cracked” with a document to signed without the exemption…

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 2/28/19, Alexandre Uster von Baar via Groups.Io <uster=rocketmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance updates.
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Date: Thursday, February 28, 2019, 12:56 PM

Over 2 months later, and despite 2 more
letters from my lawyers to ask the settlement clauses to be
notified still nothing.
So today I called Helvetia and said
these clauses were not acceptable, that they should know by
now that I will not let go, that personally I wanted to go
to trial, but my lawyers want to solve the issue
peacefully.
The person said he will contact the
legal department to see about changing the clauses. 
(last time my lawyers ask them, they supposedly were very
busy and needed more time).
Always excuses..
So will see.

Now regarding Pantaneus (reminder: one
of their insured lost control and hit my vessel in Nassau in
July 2014).  They still not have sent the ridiculous
amount they agreed to pay.
Helvetia said that Mr Thomas Mullady
does not reply any of their email.  Helvetia assures
me, they do everything to obtain that payment.
I told them, if in 2014 then you did
not want to hire a lawyer for $20.000 I doubt you will hire
one for less.  They assure me again I would be
reimbursed.

Personally I will NEVER use insurance
again (aside for the required liability).  It is
obvious they are ALL dishonest.
In the pasts, I heard many “horror”
stories, I thought this was exaggerations from upset people,
unfortunately this is all true.

On a side note, the french customs
asked me to pay “this year” (2019) annual fee for the
boat (which they know sunk in 2017), but we solved that.

Sincerely, Alexandre


Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k

ngtnewington Newington
 

When I purchased Amelia in 2017 both Dolphins were dead. I replaced the 100 amp with a Xantrex inverter charger(Special offer at Budget marine Grenada)8 and a 30A Mastervolt, which still works fine but judging from this forum I shoulda gone Victron. It is easy to be wise. Still I am happy with solar, wind, 175A Alternator, Xantrex, Mastervolt. Between that lot we gonna be well charged whatever.....on my last quick passsage north from La Palma, my battery bank stayed at 100% for the entire passage despite running deep freeze and two fridges, radar and autopilot 24/7. Mind you the apparent wind was drumming permanent 20-35kn. The wind generators were cranking. Enjoying peace and tranquility of Funchal....
Nick
Amelia in Funchal 

AML54-019


On 29 Apr 2019, at 21:20, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington@...> wrote:

.....king Mastervolt



On 28 Apr 2019, at 08:16, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

My original 100 amp Dolphin died about 4 years ago, and it made me nervous anyway because it lacked a battery temperature sensor. I replaced it with a 100 amp Mastervolt charger, which seems to have died this weekend....having verified all connections and voltage and still getting nothing. Wondering what others have chosen when replacing the Dolphin. Having done several hours of customer complaint sleuthing it seems that the Mastervolt can be temperature sensitive and the battery chargers on a SM are relatively close to the gen.


Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k

ngtnewington Newington
 

.....king Mastervolt



On 28 Apr 2019, at 08:16, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

My original 100 amp Dolphin died about 4 years ago, and it made me nervous anyway because it lacked a battery temperature sensor. I replaced it with a 100 amp Mastervolt charger, which seems to have died this weekend....having verified all connections and voltage and still getting nothing. Wondering what others have chosen when replacing the Dolphin. Having done several hours of customer complaint sleuthing it seems that the Mastervolt can be temperature sensitive and the battery chargers on a SM are relatively close to the gen.


Re: Changing engine bearings Amel Mango Perkins 4.236

Frederic F
 

Hello James,

excellent that are the pictures I was looking for! Thank you very much.

All the best,
Frederic


Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k

Ian Townsend
 

Kent, why did you choose the 80/24 vs. the 100/24? 

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Exumas, Bahamas

On Apr 28, 2019, at 9:40 PM, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

I have had the Skylla 80/24 for 3 years now for my 520AHr bank of deep cycle lead-acid batteries.  So far no problems whatsoever.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 28, 2019, at 7:16 PM, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

We have had a Victron Skylla 100/24 on Elyse since the old Dolphins died 5 years ago. Very good experience, no problems at all. Very flexible and versatile charger, mode selectable for all types of batteries. We have 660Ah of 6V AGM batteries in 3 banks of 4 with balancers, works very well.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: SM Fairlead

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

Hi there
Stainless steel is smoother & harder, therefore may be better choice to keep lines under tension & avoid chafing Under heavy stress; do not know effect of heating when tension is constant & applies compression to strands. Easy to clean from salt deposits. Only drawback would be that Stainless steel grade 316 is brittle & does not like shocks (unlikely to happen) … Still cheaper (@30%) than Alm 
However, I have 38 years old Aluminium faileads on our 'Big Mama' & being slightly softer allow lines to compress & move without damage other than heating when under heavy constant strain. Alm casting is resilient & can take blows, easy to smooth down … 
your choice, Shine & save vs Light & soft …
fair winds, & smooth moorings

christian alby - Désirade VIII ( Maramu 116 - now in Canet




Le ‎dimanche‎ ‎28‎ ‎avril‎ ‎2019‎ ‎13‎:‎40‎:‎11‎ ‎AST, Keith Tice <amel@...> a écrit :


Hi Christian,

Thanks for the hint. I checked out the web site and believe that I can find a good solution with them.
For friction reduction, I wonder if Stainless Steel or Aluminum is preferable.

Fair winds

Keith Tice
Bikini - SM2K #282


On 28 Apr 2019, at 15:29, christian alby via Groups.Io <calbyy@...> wrote:

hi there Keith
check 
they have a wide range of alm & ss fairleads made by 4 DEK UK which accomodate old fashioned deck arrangements
guess you may find proper replacement there
fair Wind

christian alby - Désirade VIII - Maramu 116 - now in Canet



Le ‎vendredi‎ ‎26‎ ‎avril‎ ‎2019‎ ‎21‎:‎55‎:‎16‎ ‎AST, Keith Tice <amel@...> a écrit :


My SM2K stern fairleads need to be replaced.
Amel no longer offers this part.
The port fairlead is warped and the starboard fairlead was replaced by the previous owner, but the replacement fairlead is biting into the 20mm mooring lines.
I have been unable to locate a fairlead as large and smooth as the original fairleads fitted by Amel.
The previous owner told me that Amel switched to roller fairleads, but that they do not fit the available space on the SM2K.

Keith Tice
Bikini - SM2K #282


Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k

karkauai
 

I have had the Skylla 80/24 for 3 years now for my 520AHr bank of deep cycle lead-acid batteries.  So far no problems whatsoever.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 28, 2019, at 7:16 PM, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

We have had a Victron Skylla 100/24 on Elyse since the old Dolphins died 5 years ago. Very good experience, no problems at all. Very flexible and versatile charger, mode selectable for all types of batteries. We have 660Ah of 6V AGM batteries in 3 banks of 4 with balancers, works very well.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: 100 amp charger on sm2k

Alan Leslie
 

We have had a Victron Skylla 100/24 on Elyse since the old Dolphins died 5 years ago. Very good experience, no problems at all. Very flexible and versatile charger, mode selectable for all types of batteries. We have 660Ah of 6V AGM batteries in 3 banks of 4 with balancers, works very well.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Outhaul-furler motor shaft failure

Mike Ondra
 

We have now had the second Leroy Somer motor shaft shear off where in enters the gearbox. First the outhaul 2 years ago, and now the mainsail furler. Sheared at same location. Rust evidence of possible stress crack that eventually left maybe 10%-15% of the shaft in tact that then sheared off. Aletes is 20 years old. Has anyone else experienced this? Had a spare for the first failure, now sourcing a replacement for the second failure.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Chesapeake Bay

 


Re: Mizzen Mast Access

 

Amel installed the foam on these lines to keep the lines from twisting around other lines and each other. Usually a hard tug on the leader line will work. I believe there are at least 3 leader lines in the mizzen with at least one terminated at the first spreader. 

I have never encountered the leader lines stuck as you described, but I recommend that, if the leader lines get stuck, to disconnect all electric lines and leaders and pull them down with new leaders so that you can pull the electric lines back up the mast. Be careful because at least one leader line runs from the base to the first spreader and are secured there. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 4:16 PM christian alby via Groups.Io <calbyy=yahoo.fr@groups.io> wrote:
Hi there Gary,
I sail an old timer 'Maramu' & 2 years ago did some maintenance on the power & signal cables running to the top of the mast, to find that whatever the strength of the leader lines they got tangled up Inside the PVC tube which keeps them from getting tangled with the halyards.
Reason found after days of running a camera isnide teh tube, Amel did run leader line with foam rings at regular interval to soften the noise of cable Inside the PVC Duct; After repeated replacement of cables & lines Inside the duct, the foam balls got tangled, twisted & built up a firm plug, which when pushed or pulled squashes firmly & builds up a very compact plug. Had to drill out bits & pieces on the mizzen, removing the rivets which held the PVC duct in place inside the mast. 
I do not know if this way of leading lines ws kept for the SM but Always Worth a look-see to make sure that this is not the case ?
Once drilled out, passed all lines without a Hitch & can now replace power & signal cables without a problem.
I have pictures of the culprits & the drilling therafter if interested
fair winds

christian alby - Désirade VIII - Maramu 116 - now in Canet



Le ‎samedi‎ ‎20‎ ‎avril‎ ‎2019‎ ‎19‎:‎21‎:‎27‎ ‎AST, Stephen Hancock via Groups.Io <sammie.whammie=yahoo.com@groups.io> a écrit :


It is probably better to use an electrical lubricant to pull the wires. Less corrosive and much more slick.

On Apr 20, 2019, at 6:55 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Gary,
The wires in the Mizzen seem to get wrapped around each other.
Upon inspection a few years ago I noticed that all the pull lines were in bad shape so I replaced them with dyneema. It is really cheap on EBay.
 
I am sure you have already tried this , however in case you did not did you try dropping a length of chain down the mast  tied to a piece of thin dyneema?
 
If that doesn’t work , as a last resort, I would un-splice the radar scanner cable . Then I would use a strong messenger line attached to it for
re-installation. Then I would  remove the scanner cable. Just as a security backup also solder a piece of single strand 12 gauge wire to the end of the radar cable in case your pull rope breaks or disconnects. I would also cut a few wires off the splice to make the entry smaller.
With the radar cable removed I think you will have room to pull the new cables. I had to replace the scanner cable and it was a bit of a project getting it to turn around the separator at the base of the mast. I use dishwashing soap when puling cables. I first pulled it from the hole in the side of the mizzen and then dropped it down into the aft head.
 
If possible I would also consider trying to make the hole that separates the two parts of the mast at its base larger..
 
Good news is that the new radar scanner by Raymarine is wireless if you want to change out your  chartplotter.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Wells
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 1:01 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Mizzen Mast Access
 

OK, I am at an impasse with my mizzen mast.  We haven't quite gotten to the arbitration stage yet, but we have a situation of a stubborn lack of cooperation. 

My trusty wind generator threw a blade a couple of months ago.  Since it is a gen 1 Air-X (you know the one .. you can hear it several islands away!) I decided to have mercy on all my anchorage-mates and upgrade the generator to a quieter, more happy-hour-inducing model.  The mount-up was simple enough; actually things fit together quite well with only a half-millimeter or so difference here and there requiring a bit of sanding and a Dremel.  Then, it all fell apart ..  from the top.

The old Air-X was a self-regulated provider of 24VDC from the top of the mizzen straight through to the battery switch (via the ammeter and shutoff/idle switch) and it required only two wires (plus an 'earth' to the mast).  .

The new generator is a three-phase AC machine with a remote controller/convertor/regulator and it requires a three-wire drop to the box. 

Now 2x10Ga wire managed (barely) to fit down the mast, but the 3x10 won't.  During the process of learning this, the technicians lost and then removed the original wire, then they tried pulling it by connecting it to a no-longer-in-use small coaxial cable, and that connection parted, and finally they used the remaining messenger line .. and broke it.

Normally, it should not be hard to drop a new messenger, but hey have tried for 2 days and used several methods to no avail. There simply must be something blocking a passageway somewhere that they can't fish their way through. 

 

I'm  hoping someone might have a secret-handshake trick up their sleeve before we go to the next step; which is either to drill an access hole in the front of the mast and use the large forward channel (I hope it goes all the way without obstruction) or else we may have to unstep her and get it done that way .. although even that isn't a sure bet, I guess. 

This is a genuine "oh, it should take about 4 hours" job that has turned into 3 days of frustration for us as well as the technicians. 

 

We are in Martinique, so I am presuming that when they say they are 'out of options' they truly are. I know they have consulted with other experts around here so I don't feel like I am working with un-knowledgeable technicians.  BUT ..  there is a vast amount of knowledge here so I am hoping to garner a couple of options/ideas.

We definitely don't want to drill a second access hole in the top (cap) plate on the mizzen ...  that could be a structural issue.  I personally don;' want to drill through to the front of the mast, even thought this is a pretty good option, because even if the wire does come all the way down, there may be no way to silence it from banging around inside the larger passageway. 

Anyway, any suggestions will be very welcomed and thoroughly discussed. 

Thanks!!

 

Gary W

SM209 "Adagio"

Le Marin, Marinique

 


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